Comments on: America’s Separate But Equal School System http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/ Res ipsa loquitur ("The thing itself speaks") Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:52:53 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jill http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-27006 Jill Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:46:35 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-27006 I find this situation really vexing. It's a problem that has a better answer but I don't think this answer is going to be implemented. The better answer is everyone together with supportive adults who stop bullying in its tracks, who respect the students and teach self-respect and respect for others. If there are stong, intelligent, emotionally aware, caring adults at school, it could be a wonderful experience for the students. Right now it seems adults are too willing to turn away when children are bullied (for whatever reason). As to same sex schools--the best research shows there is more difference between individuals than between the "opposite" sex. So teachers should be open to good research that kids need a variety of teaching methods to help them learn. These techniques are not gender specific, they are child specific. Schools should be places of learning, kindness and encouragment for all children. If one or more student(s) has a problem with a LGBT child, there is no good reason why caring, well informed adults couldn't resolve these issues. This isn't my experience of schools which is why I favor home schooling at this time (when that is possible). Safety has to come first. As it does not and LGBT children have an extremely high rate of bullying then I don't see another option than to have separate schools. But I really wish adults would pull their shit together and create a safe, creative, intellectual, thoughtful, fun environment for children. If this happened children would not go out into the world with prejudices intact. They would be able to think for themselves and have a much richer life. I find this situation really vexing. It’s a problem that has a better answer but I don’t think this answer is going to be implemented. The better answer is everyone together with supportive adults who stop bullying in its tracks, who respect the students and teach self-respect and respect for others. If there are stong, intelligent, emotionally aware, caring adults at school, it could be a wonderful experience for the students. Right now it seems adults are too willing to turn away when children are bullied (for whatever reason). As to same sex schools–the best research shows there is more difference between individuals than between the “opposite” sex. So teachers should be open to good research that kids need a variety of teaching methods to help them learn. These techniques are not gender specific, they are child specific. Schools should be places of learning, kindness and encouragment for all children. If one or more student(s) has a problem with a LGBT child, there is no good reason why caring, well informed adults couldn’t resolve these issues. This isn’t my experience of schools which is why I favor home schooling at this time (when that is possible).

Safety has to come first. As it does not and LGBT children have an extremely high rate of bullying then I don’t see another option than to have separate schools. But I really wish adults would pull their shit together and create a safe, creative, intellectual, thoughtful, fun environment for children. If this happened children would not go out into the world with prejudices intact. They would be able to think for themselves and have a much richer life.

]]> By: Chicago’s New Gay High School « JONATHAN TURLEY http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-26986 Chicago’s New Gay High School « JONATHAN TURLEY Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:13:26 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-26986 [...] Chicago’s New Gay High School Published 1, October 24, 2008 Uncategorized Chicago is set for a vote on the new high school targeting gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transsexual students on November 19th. Below is today’s column on the school, which I reluctantly oppose as I did the Harvey Milk high school. [...] [...] Chicago’s New Gay High School Published 1, October 24, 2008 Uncategorized Chicago is set for a vote on the new high school targeting gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transsexual students on November 19th. Below is today’s column on the school, which I reluctantly oppose as I did the Harvey Milk high school. [...]

]]> By: Chicago to Create “Gay High School” « JONATHAN TURLEY http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-26221 Chicago to Create “Gay High School” « JONATHAN TURLEY Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:31:41 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-26221 [...] supporter of gay rights, I opposed the creation of the Harvey Milk High school in New York, click here and [...] [...] supporter of gay rights, I opposed the creation of the Harvey Milk High school in New York, click here and [...]

]]> By: Arabic Public School Principal Forced to Resign Over Tee-Shirt Comment « JONATHAN TURLEY http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-8924 Arabic Public School Principal Forced to Resign Over Tee-Shirt Comment « JONATHAN TURLEY Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:32:16 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-8924 [...] creation of special schools for gay and lesbian students, religious groups, and other groups. Click here and here and [...] [...] creation of special schools for gay and lesbian students, religious groups, and other groups. Click here and here and [...]

]]> By: Alma Balsamo http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-8566 Alma Balsamo Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:46:57 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-8566 Well, I guess you've never heard of the phrase: I'm what you've made me. Hello! The difference here is that these kids/people are not being forced and sujected to 'keep away.' No! They are choosing what they will, and it makes all the damn differnce in this forbearing world. What information have you been fed? See-ya, Definitely wouldn't wanta be ya! Al Well, I guess you’ve never heard of the phrase: I’m what you’ve made me. Hello! The difference here is that these kids/people are not being forced and sujected to ‘keep away.’ No! They are choosing what they will, and it makes all the damn differnce in this forbearing world. What information have you been fed?

See-ya,
Definitely wouldn’t wanta be ya!

Al

]]> By: Marines to Run Chicago Public High School « JONATHAN TURLEY http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-433 Marines to Run Chicago Public High School « JONATHAN TURLEY Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:56:44 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/2007/09/09/americas-separate-but-equal-school-system/#comment-433 [...] Marines to Run Chicago Public High School Published October 16th, 2007 Academics , Bizarre , Society In the wake of the announcement of the controversial College of the American Soldier (where recruits will get college credits for simply learning tasks in military service), Chicago has opened the country’s first public high school run by the U.S. Marines. Chicago officials announced plans to open an Air Force academy high school in 2009 with plans for a Navy school. For the prior entry on the college of the american soldier, click here It is an astonishing surrender of academic values and controls by public educators to the military, which clearly views the schools as recruiting opportunities. While we constantly hear how stretched our services have become with the war in Iraq, they appear to have plenty of time to branch out into high school education. For the full story, click here Chicago has long abandoned traditional values in education by opting for specialized charter schools based on race and gender in a balkanized system of education. In doing so, they have lost the crowning purpose of the American educational experiment: to create a common experience for all citizens and to raise children in a pluralistic environment. For a prior column, click here [...] [...] Marines to Run Chicago Public High School Published October 16th, 2007 Academics , Bizarre , Society In the wake of the announcement of the controversial College of the American Soldier (where recruits will get college credits for simply learning tasks in military service), Chicago has opened the country’s first public high school run by the U.S. Marines. Chicago officials announced plans to open an Air Force academy high school in 2009 with plans for a Navy school. For the prior entry on the college of the american soldier, click here It is an astonishing surrender of academic values and controls by public educators to the military, which clearly views the schools as recruiting opportunities. While we constantly hear how stretched our services have become with the war in Iraq, they appear to have plenty of time to branch out into high school education. For the full story, click here Chicago has long abandoned traditional values in education by opting for specialized charter schools based on race and gender in a balkanized system of education. In doing so, they have lost the crowning purpose of the American educational experiment: to create a common experience for all citizens and to raise children in a pluralistic environment. For a prior column, click here [...]

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