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	<title>Comments on: CIA Interrogation Tapes:  &#8220;Bad&#8221; is Hardly the Word &#8212; Call it Criminal</title>
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		<title>By: Small Blue Planet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; War Crimes, Pure and Simple</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-49759</link>
		<dc:creator>Small Blue Planet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; War Crimes, Pure and Simple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a good reason why the CIA guy Jose Rodriguez ordered the interrogation videotapes destroyed. Even if you thought the Abu Ghraib photos were disturbing, they would not have prepared you to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Visions of Oliver North: Jose Rodriguez Demands Immunity as Condition for Congressional Immunity in CIA Torture Scandal &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-5626</link>
		<dc:creator>Visions of Oliver North: Jose Rodriguez Demands Immunity as Condition for Congressional Immunity in CIA Torture Scandal &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a prior column, click here For the full story, click [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Four White House Officials &#8212; Including Gonzales &#8212; Knew of Tape Destruction Plan &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-4191</link>
		<dc:creator>Four White House Officials &#8212; Including Gonzales &#8212; Knew of Tape Destruction Plan &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This expands the number of suspects in a scandal that currently contains at least six credible criminal allegations. For a prior column, click here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This expands the number of suspects in a scandal that currently contains at least six credible criminal allegations. For a prior column, click here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals &#171; The Long Goodbye</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3620</link>
		<dc:creator>Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals &#171; The Long Goodbye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] looks like the Senate wasn&#8217;t completely out to lunch, CIA Interrogation Tapes: &#8220;Bad&#8221; is Hardly the Word — Call it Criminal In 2005, the Senate Intelligence Committee repeatedly tried to determine if CIA interrogators were [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] looks like the Senate wasn&#8217;t completely out to lunch, CIA Interrogation Tapes: &#8220;Bad&#8221; is Hardly the Word — Call it Criminal In 2005, the Senate Intelligence Committee repeatedly tried to determine if CIA interrogators were [...]</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3598</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>any request for tapes, reports, or other testimony will most likely be blocked.

Please note the Administration&#039;s response to the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2002, Sec 305. on reports tendered to congressional committees.

It prompted a signing statement from the WH:

&quot;Violates the President&#039;s constitutional authority to withhold information, the disclosure of which could impair foreign relations, the national security, the deliberative processes of the Executive or the performance of the Executive&#039;s constitutional duty.&quot;

Now signing statements are of dubious force, but they do indicate how the legal thinking goes at the WH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>any request for tapes, reports, or other testimony will most likely be blocked.</p>
<p>Please note the Administration&#8217;s response to the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2002, Sec 305. on reports tendered to congressional committees.</p>
<p>It prompted a signing statement from the WH:</p>
<p>&#8220;Violates the President&#8217;s constitutional authority to withhold information, the disclosure of which could impair foreign relations, the national security, the deliberative processes of the Executive or the performance of the Executive&#8217;s constitutional duty.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now signing statements are of dubious force, but they do indicate how the legal thinking goes at the WH.</p>
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		<title>By: Hello</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3593</link>
		<dc:creator>Hello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unclear how the Supreme Court is going to prevent all 50 State AGs from enforcing their oath against US government officials in re  alleged war crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unclear how the Supreme Court is going to prevent all 50 State AGs from enforcing their oath against US government officials in re  alleged war crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3588</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How things might work themselves out:

1. DOJ announces that the tapes were not necessarily destroyed.

2. DOJ refuses to release such tapes as they may have: defining them as sensitive prosecutorial documents for ongoing DOJ investigation(s)and subject to executive privilege.  They have precedent for this tack at least in respect to a congressional subpoena.

3. Depending how determined the Dems are, the case goes to SCOTUS and the SG argues for the DOJ; 6-3 majority upholding privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How things might work themselves out:</p>
<p>1. DOJ announces that the tapes were not necessarily destroyed.</p>
<p>2. DOJ refuses to release such tapes as they may have: defining them as sensitive prosecutorial documents for ongoing DOJ investigation(s)and subject to executive privilege.  They have precedent for this tack at least in respect to a congressional subpoena.</p>
<p>3. Depending how determined the Dems are, the case goes to SCOTUS and the SG argues for the DOJ; 6-3 majority upholding privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: Bush Administration Violated Court Orders By Destroying CIA Interrogation Tapes &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3555</link>
		<dc:creator>Bush Administration Violated Court Orders By Destroying CIA Interrogation Tapes &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not been requested by any court and were not evidence in any trial. As I noted in yesterday&#8217;s Roll Call column, this type of defense has been routinely rejected by the Justice Department in past cases. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not been requested by any court and were not evidence in any trial. As I noted in yesterday&#8217;s Roll Call column, this type of defense has been routinely rejected by the Justice Department in past cases. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moinator</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3548</link>
		<dc:creator>Moinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry for the bad spelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry for the bad spelling.</p>
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		<title>By: Moinator</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3547</link>
		<dc:creator>Moinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who can ask for an independant investigation? Does it have to be done in the governmant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who can ask for an independant investigation? Does it have to be done in the governmant?</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3533</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that is at issue is the laws of the land and whether they are being broken.  That is all.

There is a secular religion to which I imagine Professor Turley belongs.  It is a love of country, often called &quot;patriotism&quot;. Part of that lifelong passion is a love and respect for the Law and our system of Constitutional government.  You might call it a form of patriotic fundamentalism and it is patriotism&#039;s strongest form.

Where the problem is that the current Administration is undoubtedly patriotic, but only in the weak sense.   They don&#039;t love the deep order of laws and powers that are the very bones of America and because of this lack, they have wittingly damaged the country they undoubtedly love, but also undoubtedly do not truely understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that is at issue is the laws of the land and whether they are being broken.  That is all.</p>
<p>There is a secular religion to which I imagine Professor Turley belongs.  It is a love of country, often called &#8220;patriotism&#8221;. Part of that lifelong passion is a love and respect for the Law and our system of Constitutional government.  You might call it a form of patriotic fundamentalism and it is patriotism&#8217;s strongest form.</p>
<p>Where the problem is that the current Administration is undoubtedly patriotic, but only in the weak sense.   They don&#8217;t love the deep order of laws and powers that are the very bones of America and because of this lack, they have wittingly damaged the country they undoubtedly love, but also undoubtedly do not truely understand.</p>
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		<title>By: JR Lentini</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3531</link>
		<dc:creator>JR Lentini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things, Tom:

First, what an idiotic defense of lawbreaking.  &quot;You&#039;ve never been a CEO, so how can you complain about Enron?&quot; is basically where you&#039;re going with that line of argument.

Second, &quot;Do you notice that the lefties who constantly complain of the harsh performance by the police, never join the force and become a gentle policeman&quot; is in itself a dumb question, since you&#039;d never hear about them if they did--when was the last time a gentle policeman made the news?  The great majority of left-leaning Americans don&#039;t think that all CIA agents are evil (hell, how much time has the left spent defending Valerie Plame, Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern?), but aren&#039;t blithely willing to ignore flagrant law-breaking and inhumane practices.  Your willingness to not only excuse both, but to attack those who would object to them, is disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things, Tom:</p>
<p>First, what an idiotic defense of lawbreaking.  &#8220;You&#8217;ve never been a CEO, so how can you complain about Enron?&#8221; is basically where you&#8217;re going with that line of argument.</p>
<p>Second, &#8220;Do you notice that the lefties who constantly complain of the harsh performance by the police, never join the force and become a gentle policeman&#8221; is in itself a dumb question, since you&#8217;d never hear about them if they did&#8211;when was the last time a gentle policeman made the news?  The great majority of left-leaning Americans don&#8217;t think that all CIA agents are evil (hell, how much time has the left spent defending Valerie Plame, Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern?), but aren&#8217;t blithely willing to ignore flagrant law-breaking and inhumane practices.  Your willingness to not only excuse both, but to attack those who would object to them, is disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom  H</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3530</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom  H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you notice that the lefties who constantly complain of the harsh performance by the police, never join the force and become a gentle policeman.

Come on Turley, bright and early in the morning, I want to see you in line applying for a job as a interrogator.  If you don’t get the information and have the criminal executed, then it’s your turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you notice that the lefties who constantly complain of the harsh performance by the police, never join the force and become a gentle policeman.</p>
<p>Come on Turley, bright and early in the morning, I want to see you in line applying for a job as a interrogator.  If you don’t get the information and have the criminal executed, then it’s your turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3522</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great citation, Deeply Worried!  

I love the idea of using THE TRUTH, posted on DOJ&#039;s own website, as a blunt instrument, of sorts, over which to hit the proverbial head 
and nail it, so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great citation, Deeply Worried!  </p>
<p>I love the idea of using THE TRUTH, posted on DOJ&#8217;s own website, as a blunt instrument, of sorts, over which to hit the proverbial head<br />
and nail it, so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3479</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reminded of some lines from an old poem:

There is a power whose care
Teaches thy way along that pathless coast,-
The desert and illimitable air,-
Lone wandering but not lost.

Sometime the mightiest redoubts, proof against all assaults, weaken invisibly and subtly lose cohesion of their constituent parts.

So one spring day, at the slightest wind, the whole tyranny collapses of a sudden and what we had thought invincible and beyond our powers to effect, lies in rubble at our feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of some lines from an old poem:</p>
<p>There is a power whose care<br />
Teaches thy way along that pathless coast,-<br />
The desert and illimitable air,-<br />
Lone wandering but not lost.</p>
<p>Sometime the mightiest redoubts, proof against all assaults, weaken invisibly and subtly lose cohesion of their constituent parts.</p>
<p>So one spring day, at the slightest wind, the whole tyranny collapses of a sudden and what we had thought invincible and beyond our powers to effect, lies in rubble at our feet.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathanturley</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3474</link>
		<dc:creator>jonathanturley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much appreciated, Deeply Worried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much appreciated, Deeply Worried.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3465</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting document for any interested is found at the DOJ, Office of Legal Counsel&#039;s log of opinions and memorandums.  In December 2004, they provided the WH with a detailed memorandum on torture.

http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/18usc23402340a2.htm

Note the citation to the 9th Circuit&#039;s finding in the 1996 Hilao v Estate of Marcos, where a practice recognizable as waterboarding is described and categorized as torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting document for any interested is found at the DOJ, Office of Legal Counsel&#8217;s log of opinions and memorandums.  In December 2004, they provided the WH with a detailed memorandum on torture.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/18usc23402340a2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/18usc23402340a2.htm</a></p>
<p>Note the citation to the 9th Circuit&#8217;s finding in the 1996 Hilao v Estate of Marcos, where a practice recognizable as waterboarding is described and categorized as torture.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3461</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another brilliant appearance today on Countdown by Professor Turley.

Keith Olberman strayed a little bit toward the end of the interview, but overall the viewer was left with the impression that crimes had been committed and something needed to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another brilliant appearance today on Countdown by Professor Turley.</p>
<p>Keith Olberman strayed a little bit toward the end of the interview, but overall the viewer was left with the impression that crimes had been committed and something needed to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dogs</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3460</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Dogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unmentioned as of yet by many is the fact that also in attendance at the meeting Harriet Miers attended were &lt;i&gt;DOJ&lt;/i&gt; folks.

Would this be the very same DOJ that was &lt;i&gt;ordered&lt;/i&gt; by Judge Leonie Brinkema to respond as to the existence of &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; tapes?

One could very easily ask the question of just how is it that the DOJ can respond &lt;i&gt;negatively&lt;/i&gt; to Judge Leonie Brinkema&#039;s question while the very same DOJ sat in a CIA briefing by by CIA General Counsel Scott W. Muller where the existence of such tapes were not only confirmed, but that the CIA had expressed the desire/intent to destroy said tapes.

And now the DOJ is going to &quot;investigate&quot; whether laws have been broken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unmentioned as of yet by many is the fact that also in attendance at the meeting Harriet Miers attended were <i>DOJ</i> folks.</p>
<p>Would this be the very same DOJ that was <i>ordered</i> by Judge Leonie Brinkema to respond as to the existence of <i>any</i> tapes?</p>
<p>One could very easily ask the question of just how is it that the DOJ can respond <i>negatively</i> to Judge Leonie Brinkema&#8217;s question while the very same DOJ sat in a CIA briefing by by CIA General Counsel Scott W. Muller where the existence of such tapes were not only confirmed, but that the CIA had expressed the desire/intent to destroy said tapes.</p>
<p>And now the DOJ is going to &#8220;investigate&#8221; whether laws have been broken?</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3441</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what of Congress&#039;s &quot;man&quot; in the CIA, John Helgerson, the Inspector General of that agency?

It is looking more and more that Michael Hayden&#039;s investigation of Helgerson was on the order of a pre-emptive strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what of Congress&#8217;s &#8220;man&#8221; in the CIA, John Helgerson, the Inspector General of that agency?</p>
<p>It is looking more and more that Michael Hayden&#8217;s investigation of Helgerson was on the order of a pre-emptive strike.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/10/cia-interrogation-tapes-bad-is-hardly-the-word-call-it-criminal/#comment-3436</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post.  Lying to Congress on the part of this administration is beginning to appear a commonplace. Henry Waxman&#039;s Oversight Committee just released their report on Executive branch manipulation of climate science, and there is a small but significant section in it concerning the manipulation and distortion of testimony presented to Congress.

This Administration is so criminal, so debased, that it is going to pull down both enabling Parties with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post.  Lying to Congress on the part of this administration is beginning to appear a commonplace. Henry Waxman&#8217;s Oversight Committee just released their report on Executive branch manipulation of climate science, and there is a small but significant section in it concerning the manipulation and distortion of testimony presented to Congress.</p>
<p>This Administration is so criminal, so debased, that it is going to pull down both enabling Parties with it.</p>
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