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	<title>Comments on: Torture 0 Baseball 2 &#8212; Congress Moves to Deal with Steroid Abuse While Detainee Abuse Languishes</title>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/18/torture-0-baseball-2-congress-moves-to-deal-with-steroid-abuse-while-detainee-abuse-languishes/#comment-4591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daniel B,

Well said.

There is a terrible seduction that has gone since the Iraq incursion.  You cannot know, until you have served, or been exposed to the military there on fact-finding missions, just how seductive is membership in the defense/military community if even as a civilian supporter.  It has twisted quite a few otherwise sober civilian heads.  Actually the ex-military are more resistant to the phenomena than the civilian overseers.

Something in our primate psychology I suspect, but it has been pernicious in dulling opposition to the so-called &quot;war on terror&quot; that has been conflated with the Iraq occupation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel B,</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
<p>There is a terrible seduction that has gone since the Iraq incursion.  You cannot know, until you have served, or been exposed to the military there on fact-finding missions, just how seductive is membership in the defense/military community if even as a civilian supporter.  It has twisted quite a few otherwise sober civilian heads.  Actually the ex-military are more resistant to the phenomena than the civilian overseers.</p>
<p>Something in our primate psychology I suspect, but it has been pernicious in dulling opposition to the so-called &#8220;war on terror&#8221; that has been conflated with the Iraq occupation.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel B</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/18/torture-0-baseball-2-congress-moves-to-deal-with-steroid-abuse-while-detainee-abuse-languishes/#comment-4571</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect the reason Democrats with oversight responsibility shy away from characterizing waterboarding as &quot;torture&quot; is that they at least have some tiny remnant of moral conscience at work, which makes them privately embarrassed that their quiet acquiescence makes them complicit with an act that to any reasonable person would simply be both immoral and illegal.  With few exceptions, it appears the majority of Republicans lack the moral conscience to feel much of anything in this regard.  In a word, they are &quot;shameless&quot;.  In their world, they deem their actions to be &quot;right&quot; simply because they do them.

As I see it, those who refuse to come to terms with their complicity through silence are no less guilty than those who are the direct perpetrators of immorality and illegality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the reason Democrats with oversight responsibility shy away from characterizing waterboarding as &#8220;torture&#8221; is that they at least have some tiny remnant of moral conscience at work, which makes them privately embarrassed that their quiet acquiescence makes them complicit with an act that to any reasonable person would simply be both immoral and illegal.  With few exceptions, it appears the majority of Republicans lack the moral conscience to feel much of anything in this regard.  In a word, they are &#8220;shameless&#8221;.  In their world, they deem their actions to be &#8220;right&#8221; simply because they do them.</p>
<p>As I see it, those who refuse to come to terms with their complicity through silence are no less guilty than those who are the direct perpetrators of immorality and illegality.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/18/torture-0-baseball-2-congress-moves-to-deal-with-steroid-abuse-while-detainee-abuse-languishes/#comment-4507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The url link I provided above was probably far too long and I am told can set up a problem for the thread.

Moderator, please go ahead and delete the above message from me.

The issues being linked were on the Administration&#039;s attempt to control promotion within the JAG and to introduce political metrics-- and the revival of a fairly toxic 1930&#039;s era German politico-legal philosophy in, of all places, a 21st century American Republican presidency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The url link I provided above was probably far too long and I am told can set up a problem for the thread.</p>
<p>Moderator, please go ahead and delete the above message from me.</p>
<p>The issues being linked were on the Administration&#8217;s attempt to control promotion within the JAG and to introduce political metrics&#8211; and the revival of a fairly toxic 1930&#8242;s era German politico-legal philosophy in, of all places, a 21st century American Republican presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: Arabella</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arabella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shredder -
Who would want to?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shredder -<br />
Who would want to?</p>
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		<title>By: Shredder</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/18/torture-0-baseball-2-congress-moves-to-deal-with-steroid-abuse-while-detainee-abuse-languishes/#comment-4182</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shredder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will someone please have an affair with Bush so we can impeach him?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will someone please have an affair with Bush so we can impeach him?</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/18/torture-0-baseball-2-congress-moves-to-deal-with-steroid-abuse-while-detainee-abuse-languishes/#comment-4180</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And this official statement just released...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDRs-E7koas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this official statement just released&#8230;</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/18/torture-0-baseball-2-congress-moves-to-deal-with-steroid-abuse-while-detainee-abuse-languishes/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/RDRs-E7koas/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Aura Mae</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2007/12/18/torture-0-baseball-2-congress-moves-to-deal-with-steroid-abuse-while-detainee-abuse-languishes/#comment-4171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aura Mae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are easily distracted.
Oh, look!  A shiny object!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are easily distracted.<br />
Oh, look!  A shiny object!</p>
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