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	<title>Comments on: Behind the Black Hood:  Death Row Inmates Seek Identity of their Future Executioners</title>
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		<title>By: Ms. Dillon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ms. Dillon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 04:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They want to see their executioner? The ones they killed saw their executioners faces and didn&#039;t know why they were being killed. I know one of these men and I am awaiting his execution. I would love to be there the day of his execution. It wouldn&#039;t matter to me if he saw my face, I wouldn&#039;t care. I don&#039;t hate the one man I know, I DO feel bad for the family of the girl he murdered, and he does deserve what his fate has served him through his actions and according to our laws - the proper legal channels. He has wasted enough of the states money with the legal channels of appeals. There needs to be a limit on lawsuits the inmates can waste the innocent taxpayer&#039;s money on. I know what happened and how he (inmate) got to where he is now and he shouldn&#039;t be allowed to see his executioner. The people these death row inmates killed, didn&#039;t understand why they were being killed/murdered, but saw their executioners, These inmates know why they are being executed and don&#039;t need to see their executioners.
Plain and simple they don&#039;t deserve to see who their executioner is, like, they think they deserve the rights like people who are not in prison. Prisoners only deserve very, very few rights, they broke the law, they murdered, they want to do everything they can to live longer-I am sure the people they murdered would have loved the option to live longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They want to see their executioner? The ones they killed saw their executioners faces and didn&#8217;t know why they were being killed. I know one of these men and I am awaiting his execution. I would love to be there the day of his execution. It wouldn&#8217;t matter to me if he saw my face, I wouldn&#8217;t care. I don&#8217;t hate the one man I know, I DO feel bad for the family of the girl he murdered, and he does deserve what his fate has served him through his actions and according to our laws &#8211; the proper legal channels. He has wasted enough of the states money with the legal channels of appeals. There needs to be a limit on lawsuits the inmates can waste the innocent taxpayer&#8217;s money on. I know what happened and how he (inmate) got to where he is now and he shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to see his executioner. The people these death row inmates killed, didn&#8217;t understand why they were being killed/murdered, but saw their executioners, These inmates know why they are being executed and don&#8217;t need to see their executioners.<br />
Plain and simple they don&#8217;t deserve to see who their executioner is, like, they think they deserve the rights like people who are not in prison. Prisoners only deserve very, very few rights, they broke the law, they murdered, they want to do everything they can to live longer-I am sure the people they murdered would have loved the option to live longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Caminiti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vincent Caminiti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very curious indeed. There are a number of arguments one could posit on both sides of this, in an academic way.  

The identity of the executioner, in this article, is the State. Just as the petitioners for justice by the District Attorney, is the people, or if you will, the State.

Any discussion though, of Military execution seems rather out of place here for at least two bold-faced reasons.  First, the military takes (presumably) regular soldiers and assigns them as a firing squad.  This would be the equivalent of the judge selecting 10 citizens in the gallery to act as executioners.  Secondly, military execution is less about punishment and more about practical barbarism.  Generally the military has been very reluctant to execute under UCMJ, unless the underlying crime resulted in the death of another member of the US military or military dependent.  The act of execution in the military ranks is more of extreme preening than it is criminal justice.

The civilian government execution may have its roots in barbaric purification, as much as quelling retribution by citizens.  Also, for centuries we&#039;ve heard the discussion on its alleged value towards deterring crime among the populace.

In any case, the legal arguments seem so trite, when considering that in the civilian example, we practice extermination; but the argument here is about who&#039;s rights should prevail in performing this extreme means to an end.

My personal view is that if our society feels compelled to take human life as punishment - it should be in the least clinical manner and we should be confronted with our barbaric and morbidly curious nature each time someone is executed.  Bring back the firing squads and televise the event on C-Span. Use the guillotine, very precise and with new technology, essentially fool proof.  Connect the people with the fruits of their political contributions and support - and perhaps they would not be so apt to casually discuss the taking of human life as though it were a work of fiction. Let us see the blood stained wall outside the State Capitol Building and perhaps we&#039;d be more concerned who resides inside the walls on our behalf. 

Thus, the argument of the article would be moot.  Perhaps regular citizens could be compelled to be part of the firing squad of one&#039;s peers, in the same way as a jury.  

Lastly, it seems as though the arguments about identity are more likely arguments toward death-penalty awareness than they are about actually ascertaining the identity of the &#039;executioner.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very curious indeed. There are a number of arguments one could posit on both sides of this, in an academic way.  </p>
<p>The identity of the executioner, in this article, is the State. Just as the petitioners for justice by the District Attorney, is the people, or if you will, the State.</p>
<p>Any discussion though, of Military execution seems rather out of place here for at least two bold-faced reasons.  First, the military takes (presumably) regular soldiers and assigns them as a firing squad.  This would be the equivalent of the judge selecting 10 citizens in the gallery to act as executioners.  Secondly, military execution is less about punishment and more about practical barbarism.  Generally the military has been very reluctant to execute under UCMJ, unless the underlying crime resulted in the death of another member of the US military or military dependent.  The act of execution in the military ranks is more of extreme preening than it is criminal justice.</p>
<p>The civilian government execution may have its roots in barbaric purification, as much as quelling retribution by citizens.  Also, for centuries we&#8217;ve heard the discussion on its alleged value towards deterring crime among the populace.</p>
<p>In any case, the legal arguments seem so trite, when considering that in the civilian example, we practice extermination; but the argument here is about who&#8217;s rights should prevail in performing this extreme means to an end.</p>
<p>My personal view is that if our society feels compelled to take human life as punishment &#8211; it should be in the least clinical manner and we should be confronted with our barbaric and morbidly curious nature each time someone is executed.  Bring back the firing squads and televise the event on C-Span. Use the guillotine, very precise and with new technology, essentially fool proof.  Connect the people with the fruits of their political contributions and support &#8211; and perhaps they would not be so apt to casually discuss the taking of human life as though it were a work of fiction. Let us see the blood stained wall outside the State Capitol Building and perhaps we&#8217;d be more concerned who resides inside the walls on our behalf. </p>
<p>Thus, the argument of the article would be moot.  Perhaps regular citizens could be compelled to be part of the firing squad of one&#8217;s peers, in the same way as a jury.  </p>
<p>Lastly, it seems as though the arguments about identity are more likely arguments toward death-penalty awareness than they are about actually ascertaining the identity of the &#8216;executioner.&#8217;</p>
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