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	<title>Comments on: Video: Oklahoma Legislator Rants About Gays as Threat to the Nation</title>
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		<title>By: Sooner v. Satan: Oklahoma Commissioner Reduces Campaign to a Homophobic Comic &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-17450</link>
		<dc:creator>Sooner v. Satan: Oklahoma Commissioner Reduces Campaign to a Homophobic Comic &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] seems like a whole week since the last outrageous act by an Oklahoma legislator, click here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: msnbc bs 'er</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8185</link>
		<dc:creator>msnbc bs 'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather:

Another ON LINE PETITION!

What a JOKE!  How many times am I going to be solicited to buy something, sign up for something, send money, or get on future lists at the web site you listed!

ON LINE PETITIONS!  LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather:</p>
<p>Another ON LINE PETITION!</p>
<p>What a JOKE!  How many times am I going to be solicited to buy something, sign up for something, send money, or get on future lists at the web site you listed!</p>
<p>ON LINE PETITIONS!  LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8159</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please sign the petition to get Sally Kern out of Office.  Forward to all your friends, post on your blogs!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/request-to-terminate-sally-kerns-position-house-of-representatives</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please sign the petition to get Sally Kern out of Office.  Forward to all your friends, post on your blogs!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/request-to-terminate-sally-kerns-position-house-of-representatives" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/request-to-terminate-sally-kerns-position-house-of-representatives</a></p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8117</link>
		<dc:creator>deeply worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An older heart/brain quote was from a Congolese rebel about 40 years ago.  It went: &quot;if you aren&#039;t a Marxist when you are a young man, you have no heart, if you are still a Marxist when you are old, you have no brain&quot; or something very like that.

Its probably much older than that.

As to the relationship of liberalism/conservatism to human age or development.  It is clear there is a definite correlation with educational level with the break favoring liberal values increasing with education level.  Ever wonder why universities are so liberal?  Where did it start?  Answer: it has been that way for centuries.

As far as the Supreme Court goes: age on the bench has usually manifested itself in increasingly liberal decisions. There are exceptions of course, but many justices become more liberal and it is not as it is popularly written because of the &quot;hydraulic pressure&quot; of the east coast media and academe.  We as humans, tend to become more humane: less rule-driven and more caring and communitarian, and this tends to break toward liberalism.  Of course, counter examples exist: Justice Hugo Black being the most famous.  It may be that there is a statistical turn toward conservatism that starts very late in life, in the late seventies and eighties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An older heart/brain quote was from a Congolese rebel about 40 years ago.  It went: &#8220;if you aren&#8217;t a Marxist when you are a young man, you have no heart, if you are still a Marxist when you are old, you have no brain&#8221; or something very like that.</p>
<p>Its probably much older than that.</p>
<p>As to the relationship of liberalism/conservatism to human age or development.  It is clear there is a definite correlation with educational level with the break favoring liberal values increasing with education level.  Ever wonder why universities are so liberal?  Where did it start?  Answer: it has been that way for centuries.</p>
<p>As far as the Supreme Court goes: age on the bench has usually manifested itself in increasingly liberal decisions. There are exceptions of course, but many justices become more liberal and it is not as it is popularly written because of the &#8220;hydraulic pressure&#8221; of the east coast media and academe.  We as humans, tend to become more humane: less rule-driven and more caring and communitarian, and this tends to break toward liberalism.  Of course, counter examples exist: Justice Hugo Black being the most famous.  It may be that there is a statistical turn toward conservatism that starts very late in life, in the late seventies and eighties.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8110</link>
		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>msnbcbser:

I am surprised that you heard the J.S. Mill quote that way, maybe it&#039;s the company you keep!</description>
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<p>I am surprised that you heard the J.S. Mill quote that way, maybe it&#8217;s the company you keep!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8106</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan:

What we really have here is a clear example of what happens when you don’t ban braying jackasses from election to the Oklahoma Legislature.
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I completely agree, Mespo, but regrettably, I couldn&#039;t vote to keep THIS braying jackass from election to the Oklahoma Legislature, as much as I would have loved to.  I think it&#039;s illegal to vote in OK, when one isn&#039;t a resident of that state.   :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan:</p>
<p>What we really have here is a clear example of what happens when you don’t ban braying jackasses from election to the Oklahoma Legislature.<br />
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<p>I completely agree, Mespo, but regrettably, I couldn&#8217;t vote to keep THIS braying jackass from election to the Oklahoma Legislature, as much as I would have loved to.  I think it&#8217;s illegal to vote in OK, when one isn&#8217;t a resident of that state.   <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainily she should give her opinion and certainly others may respond to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainily she should give her opinion and certainly others may respond to it.</p>
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		<title>By: msnbc bs 'er</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8099</link>
		<dc:creator>msnbc bs 'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mesp: wow, what a coincidence.  

I heard that same thing years back but always thought it was &quot;Although it is not true that all liberals are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are liberals.”

Of course you have heard the old one &quot;if you aren&#039;t a liberal in college you don&#039;t have a heart and if you aren&#039;t a conservative when you are an adult you don&#039;t have a brain.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mesp: wow, what a coincidence.  </p>
<p>I heard that same thing years back but always thought it was &#8220;Although it is not true that all liberals are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are liberals.”</p>
<p>Of course you have heard the old one &#8220;if you aren&#8217;t a liberal in college you don&#8217;t have a heart and if you aren&#8217;t a conservative when you are an adult you don&#8217;t have a brain.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8097</link>
		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sally Kern (R-Ok) proves how prescient John Stuart Mill was when he famously said: &quot;Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.&quot; I am sure our resident &quot;bs&#039;er&quot; would agree with that truism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally Kern (R-Ok) proves how prescient John Stuart Mill was when he famously said: &#8220;Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.&#8221; I am sure our resident &#8220;bs&#8217;er&#8221; would agree with that truism.</p>
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		<title>By: msnbc bs 'er</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8096</link>
		<dc:creator>msnbc bs 'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most in America have no problem with the woman freely giving her opinion.  The only people that do are the lunatic left wingers.  You know, the &quot;Keith Olbermann is God&quot; type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most in America have no problem with the woman freely giving her opinion.  The only people that do are the lunatic left wingers.  You know, the &#8220;Keith Olbermann is God&#8221; type.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8095</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tell ye all, John McCain&#039;s favorite pastor will have god tear down this website, just as he punished the sins of New Orleans with Katrina.

This ignorance comes from the same kind of minds who find women unworthy of driving.  Another &quot;talk like a pirate day&quot;--ARRGG maties!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tell ye all, John McCain&#8217;s favorite pastor will have god tear down this website, just as he punished the sins of New Orleans with Katrina.</p>
<p>This ignorance comes from the same kind of minds who find women unworthy of driving.  Another &#8220;talk like a pirate day&#8221;&#8211;ARRGG maties!</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8052</link>
		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan:

What we really have here is a clear example of what happens when you don&#039;t ban braying jackasses from election to the Oklahoma Legislature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan:</p>
<p>What we really have here is a clear example of what happens when you don&#8217;t ban braying jackasses from election to the Oklahoma Legislature.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/11/video-oklahoma-legislator-rants-about-gays-as-threat-to-the-nation/#comment-8044</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kermudgeon:
What we have here is a clear example of what happens when you don’t regulate free speech.
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And &quot;regulating&quot; (I assume you mean by restricting or even banning some forms of it) free speech would eliminate the problem of rabid homophobia and other forms of extreme intolerance in our lawmakers and legislators in government....how, exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kermudgeon:<br />
What we have here is a clear example of what happens when you don’t regulate free speech.<br />
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<p>And &#8220;regulating&#8221; (I assume you mean by restricting or even banning some forms of it) free speech would eliminate the problem of rabid homophobia and other forms of extreme intolerance in our lawmakers and legislators in government&#8230;.how, exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: kermudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>kermudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we have here is a clear example of what happens when you don&#039;t regulate free speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we have here is a clear example of what happens when you don&#8217;t regulate free speech.</p>
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