Comments on: Administration Cites “Imprudent Curiosity” and Fires Two Employees in Obama Passport Controversy http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/ Res ipsa loquitur ("The thing itself speaks") Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:51:32 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jill http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8991 Jill Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:29:08 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8991 Dear msnbc bs, Please explain why you believe a person who is a leftist is a lunatic. I want to know what you mean and I will answer you with no vituperation or unkindness. I agree with you that the govt. is currently, and will be able in the future, to access our medical records. We must take agressive steps to end that. I don't see why wanting and being willing to pay for universal health care is of necessity connected to a surveillance state. Certainly it can be connected, depending on the bad will of officials at the top. Interestingly our medical records are currently being accessed without any connection to universal health care. Jill Dear msnbc bs,

Please explain why you believe a person who is a leftist is a lunatic. I want to know what you mean and I will answer you with no vituperation or unkindness.

I agree with you that the govt. is currently, and will be able in the future, to access our medical records. We must take agressive steps to end that. I don’t see why wanting and being willing to pay for universal health care is of necessity connected to a surveillance state. Certainly it can be connected, depending on the bad will of officials at the top. Interestingly our medical records are currently being accessed without any connection to universal health care.

Jill

]]> By: Susan http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8984 Susan Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:53:11 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8984 Well, now that it's after midnight my time (almost an hour past that actually), Good Friday has come and gone. However, I can wish you a Happy Easter, even though I'm not a believer in the religious sense, so a very Happy Easter to you. :-) Well, now that it’s after midnight my time (almost an hour past that actually), Good Friday has come and gone. However, I can wish you a Happy Easter, even though I’m not a believer in the religious sense, so a very Happy Easter to you. :-)

]]> By: deeply worried http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8983 deeply worried Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:28:04 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8983 After all, it is Good Friday. :) After all, it is Good Friday. :)

]]> By: deeply worried http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8981 deeply worried Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:20:52 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8981 Hi Susan, It is my faith that no one is irredeemable, that all have a good heart that can be reached and brought forth to add their tithe of light to the refulgent radiance that gladdens our spirits... :) DW Hi Susan,

It is my faith that no one is irredeemable, that all have a good heart that can be reached and brought forth to add their tithe of light to the refulgent radiance that gladdens our spirits…

:)

DW

]]> By: Susan http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8979 Susan Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:13:38 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8979 Deeply Worried wrote: I can see him becoming a thoughtful and articulate critic of some of the ideas expressed here. ********************************** DW, I think you are an eternal optimist. lol Not that it is a criticism, it is in fact a compliment. But in MSNBCbser's case, eternal optimism may be too much to hope for. But I guess we shouldn't give up on hope entirely, should we. :-) Deeply Worried wrote:
I can see him becoming a thoughtful and articulate critic of some of the ideas expressed here.
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DW, I think you are an eternal optimist. lol Not that it is a criticism, it is in fact a compliment. But in MSNBCbser’s case, eternal optimism may be too much to hope for. But I guess we shouldn’t give up on hope entirely, should we. :-)

]]> By: deeply worried http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8977 deeply worried Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:58:46 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8977 In which case, he will vote for Clinton, I suppose. You know, I keep hoping MSNBC...er will evolve out of the identity he crafted for himself here and one that must be becoming more and more restrictive to him. I can see him becoming a thoughtful and articulate critic of some of the ideas expressed here. "Ah the gift the giftie give us, to see ourselves as others see us..." In which case, he will vote for Clinton, I suppose.

You know, I keep hoping MSNBC…er will evolve out of the identity he crafted for himself here and one that must be becoming more and more restrictive to him.

I can see him becoming a thoughtful and articulate critic of some of the ideas expressed here.

“Ah the gift the giftie give us, to see ourselves as others see us…”

]]> By: rafflaw http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8976 rafflaw Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:37:37 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8976 Deeply Worried, msnbc bs doesn't worry about facts, so he may not be able to decide which one to vote for in your question. He will have to wait for Rush to tell him who to vote for. Deeply Worried,
msnbc bs doesn’t worry about facts, so he may not be able to decide which one to vote for in your question. He will have to wait for Rush to tell him who to vote for.

]]> By: deeply worried http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8975 deeply worried Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:30:35 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8975 Msnbc bs, A couple of questions for you. Are you of voting age? If so, and you HAD to vote Democrat, who would you choose, Obama or Clinton? Which one is worst for America? Why? Msnbc bs,

A couple of questions for you.

Are you of voting age?

If so, and you HAD to vote Democrat, who would you choose, Obama or Clinton?

Which one is worst for America? Why?

]]> By: deeply worried http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8974 deeply worried Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:26:56 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8974 A blizzard of posts, some fairly crude. So let's just shunt the worst off the active list. A blizzard of posts, some fairly crude. So let’s just shunt the worst off the active list.

]]> By: msnbc bs http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8973 msnbc bs Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:41:22 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8973 WAIT WAIT! lAST NIGHT KEITH DOLBERMANN AND THE WHOLE MSNBC CROWD WERE CONVINCED IT WAS SOME GRAND CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE ORDAINED OBAMA THAT ALL OF MSNBC IS IN THE TANK FOR. YOU MEAN IT WAS JUST SOME EMPLOYEES DOING A LITTLE SNOOPING? YOU MEAN GOOD OLD INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER DAVID SHUSTER GOT IT ALL WRONG AGAIN! DOES SHUSTER STILL HAVE A JOB AT MSNBC? HOW MANY CHANCES DOES HE GET? MAYBE HIS WIFE IS COVERING FOR HIM........ WAIT WAIT! lAST NIGHT KEITH DOLBERMANN AND THE WHOLE MSNBC CROWD WERE CONVINCED IT WAS SOME GRAND CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE ORDAINED OBAMA THAT ALL OF MSNBC IS IN THE TANK FOR.

YOU MEAN IT WAS JUST SOME EMPLOYEES DOING A LITTLE SNOOPING? YOU MEAN GOOD OLD INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER DAVID SHUSTER GOT IT ALL WRONG AGAIN!

DOES SHUSTER STILL HAVE A JOB AT MSNBC? HOW MANY CHANCES DOES HE GET? MAYBE HIS WIFE IS COVERING FOR HIM……..

]]> By: msnbc bs http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8971 msnbc bs Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:37:53 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8971 Wow, you lunatics are raving mad today! Wow, you lunatics are raving mad today!

]]> By: msnbc bs http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8970 msnbc bs Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:37:06 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8970 There are probably 600,000 or more Federal workers/contractors that could access ANY of your records at any time, whether it is IRS, State Department, INS, SS, Medicare, you name it. What I find hillarious is these are the SAME people you lunatic lefties want to put in charge of our health care! GOD BLESS GW BUSH! There are probably 600,000 or more Federal workers/contractors that could access ANY of your records at any time, whether it is IRS, State Department, INS, SS, Medicare, you name it.

What I find hillarious is these are the SAME people you lunatic lefties want to put in charge of our health care!

GOD BLESS GW BUSH!

]]> By: Jill http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8947 Jill Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:55:10 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8947 And the S.D. just found out they'd looked into McCain's and Clinton's files also! Those low level employees sure are busy lately!!! Science Friday had a short piece on computer security this afternoon. One of the guests pointed out that citizens don't really have any way to negotiate their privacy with the govt. That's for sure. And the S.D. just found out they’d looked into McCain’s and Clinton’s files also! Those low level employees sure are busy lately!!! Science Friday had a short piece on computer security this afternoon. One of the guests pointed out that citizens don’t really have any way to negotiate their privacy with the govt. That’s for sure.

]]> By: Susan http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8945 Susan Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:15:40 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8945 Rafflaw and Jill, I agree with both your posts. I don't buy the state department's line that this was a matter of "inappropriate curiosity" or whatever they're saying to cover their....um....rears. As it has been mentioned more than once, on both the COUNTDOWN and VERDICT! programs last night, the fact that it happened THREE times, not just once, and that it has taken this long for Sen. Obama to have been notified has a very disturbing significance. The administration has NO credibility at this point, so why should anyone believe the absurd CYA lines they've been trying to dish out to the general public? I certainly don't. Rafflaw and Jill, I agree with both your posts. I don’t buy the state department’s line that this was a matter of “inappropriate curiosity” or whatever they’re saying to cover their….um….rears. As it has been mentioned more than once, on both the COUNTDOWN and VERDICT! programs last night, the fact that it happened THREE times, not just once, and that it has taken this long for Sen. Obama to have been notified has a very disturbing significance. The administration has NO credibility at this point, so why should anyone believe the absurd CYA lines they’ve been trying to dish out to the general public? I certainly don’t.

]]> By: Jill http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8930 Jill Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:08:40 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8930 I agree, the state dept.'s explanation is inoperative (redneck translation--that dog don't hunt!). Many people have wondered if the surveillance state explains at least a part of congress' silence in the face of the cheney-bush administration's misdeeds. If that is true, I wish everyone would come clean about it. I think the outrage of people being blackmailed into silence would outweigh the effect of the revealed transgressions. A surrveillance state strikes at the heart of a free society. I agree, the state dept.’s explanation is inoperative (redneck translation–that dog don’t hunt!).

Many people have wondered if the surveillance state explains at least a part of congress’ silence in the face of the cheney-bush administration’s misdeeds. If that is true, I wish everyone would come clean about it. I think the outrage of people being blackmailed into silence would outweigh the effect of the revealed transgressions. A surrveillance state strikes at the heart of a free society.

]]> By: rafflaw http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/21/administration-cites-imprudent-curiosity-and-fires-two-employees-in-obama-passport-controversy/#comment-8928 rafflaw Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:40:18 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1311#comment-8928 If you believe what this administration is feeding us, then I want you to meet my friend, the Easter Bunny! Of course it was a political motive and the information is probably already in the hands of the Republican National Committee. Follow the employees who were fired. We must find out who they are and I wouldn't be surprised if it leads directly to the White House and John McCain. The House and Senate need an immediate hearing to get some people under oath. The longer the delay, the colder the trail. If you believe what this administration is feeding us, then I want you to meet my friend, the Easter Bunny! Of course it was a political motive and the information is probably already in the hands of the Republican National Committee. Follow the employees who were fired. We must find out who they are and I wouldn’t be surprised if it leads directly to the White House and John McCain. The House and Senate need an immediate hearing to get some people under oath. The longer the delay, the colder the trail.

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