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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Lad of War&#8221;: Administration Gave 22-Year-Old&#8217;s Company $200 Million for Faulty Chinese Ammunition</title>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-17447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am posting at 5am on Saturday to commemorate the 11/15 
Bartleboardings left the night before - as testament to my 
ongoing complaint. 

You all persuade him to knock it off. Good luck!

I live on the water, my boat is ready, and the fish are bitin&#039;...

Later!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am posting at 5am on Saturday to commemorate the 11/15<br />
Bartleboardings left the night before &#8211; as testament to my<br />
ongoing complaint. </p>
<p>You all persuade him to knock it off. Good luck!</p>
<p>I live on the water, my boat is ready, and the fish are bitin&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>Later!</p>
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		<title>By: tlkvqb zosruxp</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-10977</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That coding error explanation is not being accepted. Here&#039;s the latest in what may turn out to be a very interesting investigation:

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39755&amp;dcn=todaysnews]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That coding error explanation is not being accepted. Here&#8217;s the latest in what may turn out to be a very interesting investigation:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39755&#038;dcn=todaysnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39755&#038;dcn=todaysnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-10733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction, make that DOS instead of DOD:

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39714&amp;dcn=todays_most_popular

Still catching up on my reading...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, make that DOS instead of DOD:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39714&#038;dcn=todays_most_popular" rel="nofollow">http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39714&#038;dcn=todays_most_popular</a></p>
<p>Still catching up on my reading&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-10732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More info on the mysterious AEY and their SDB status:

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39702&amp;dcn=todaysnews

The latest is that DOD is calling it a &quot;coding error&quot;.

Well, &quot;fool me once...&quot; but its unlikely this could occur twice as the code supposedly doesn&#039;t legacy on to new applications.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More info on the mysterious AEY and their SDB status:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39702&#038;dcn=todaysnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39702&#038;dcn=todaysnews</a></p>
<p>The latest is that DOD is calling it a &#8220;coding error&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well, &#8220;fool me once&#8230;&#8221; but its unlikely this could occur twice as the code supposedly doesn&#8217;t legacy on to new applications.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sailer</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Sailer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 08:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AEY had an affirmative action edge. It was officially listed as ethnically &quot;disadvantaged.&quot;

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/hey-feds-theres-this-thing-called.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AEY had an affirmative action edge. It was officially listed as ethnically &#8220;disadvantaged.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/hey-feds-theres-this-thing-called.html" rel="nofollow">http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/03/hey-feds-theres-this-thing-called.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 04:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Detroit Sam,

You have skills.

I view niblet as a conduit for rightist memes.  I wonder if this latest about Democrat congressmen portends the newest attempt to blame the war...on the Democrats!  If so, it is laughably weak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Detroit Sam,</p>
<p>You have skills.</p>
<p>I view niblet as a conduit for rightist memes.  I wonder if this latest about Democrat congressmen portends the newest attempt to blame the war&#8230;on the Democrats!  If so, it is laughably weak.</p>
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		<title>By: Detroit Sam</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9702</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Detroit Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes niblet, we know.

The Democrats did it.

The Clintons did it.

Code Pink did it.

The Quakers did it.

The wounded Iraqi vets did it.

Yeah, we know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes niblet, we know.</p>
<p>The Democrats did it.</p>
<p>The Clintons did it.</p>
<p>Code Pink did it.</p>
<p>The Quakers did it.</p>
<p>The wounded Iraqi vets did it.</p>
<p>Yeah, we know.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VC,

&quot;subrosa conflicts of interest&quot;

that may be whats in the freezer. 

We will see how this plays out.  At the very minimum we will get the information on who evaluated the bids.  We then will see them called to testify and thats when it will get interesting.

Go Davidson!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VC,</p>
<p>&#8220;subrosa conflicts of interest&#8221;</p>
<p>that may be whats in the freezer. </p>
<p>We will see how this plays out.  At the very minimum we will get the information on who evaluated the bids.  We then will see them called to testify and thats when it will get interesting.</p>
<p>Go Davidson!!</p>
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		<title>By: niblet</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[niblet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t doubt some Democrats out there are sitting on a pile of Saddam&#039;s loot they got for giving him information on America.  Just look at the three stooges, McDermitt, Bonier, and Thompson that ran to Bagdad on three days notice after Saddam beckoned.  If anybody is responsible for the invasion of Iraq, it is anybody that tacitly gave Saddam the impression he could bribe, delay, and lie his way out of having to live with 17 UN Resolutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt some Democrats out there are sitting on a pile of Saddam&#8217;s loot they got for giving him information on America.  Just look at the three stooges, McDermitt, Bonier, and Thompson that ran to Bagdad on three days notice after Saddam beckoned.  If anybody is responsible for the invasion of Iraq, it is anybody that tacitly gave Saddam the impression he could bribe, delay, and lie his way out of having to live with 17 UN Resolutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Caminiti</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vincent Caminiti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DW:  I would be thrilled if that were the case. Alas, I wouldn&#039;t be putting money on it.  

My cynical guess at a scenario: Someone had a hook, as we used to say.  This is going to lead to someone&#039;s freezer in Washington.  To that I would invest a few quid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DW:  I would be thrilled if that were the case. Alas, I wouldn&#8217;t be putting money on it.  </p>
<p>My cynical guess at a scenario: Someone had a hook, as we used to say.  This is going to lead to someone&#8217;s freezer in Washington.  To that I would invest a few quid.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, on a serious note.

What the developing story will reveal, I confidently predict, is that the bid AEY submitted was evaluated by a third party contractor hired to do such evaluations.

Your government may have not made the decision.  A private contractor may have, and made the recommendation to the procurement officer and that&#039;s the way a huge amount of bids are awarded nowadays.

Your average citizen believes we are still doing things the old way.  An O6 sitting in an office somewhere in the Pentagon looks at a stack of bids and rationally and impartially chooses the &quot;best&quot; one.

Not always. Such work is often performed by outside contractors who often as not may have subrosa conflicts of interest.

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39586&amp;ref=rellink]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, on a serious note.</p>
<p>What the developing story will reveal, I confidently predict, is that the bid AEY submitted was evaluated by a third party contractor hired to do such evaluations.</p>
<p>Your government may have not made the decision.  A private contractor may have, and made the recommendation to the procurement officer and that&#8217;s the way a huge amount of bids are awarded nowadays.</p>
<p>Your average citizen believes we are still doing things the old way.  An O6 sitting in an office somewhere in the Pentagon looks at a stack of bids and rationally and impartially chooses the &#8220;best&#8221; one.</p>
<p>Not always. Such work is often performed by outside contractors who often as not may have subrosa conflicts of interest.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39586&#038;ref=rellink" rel="nofollow">http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39586&#038;ref=rellink</a></p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know. I know.

All my grant proposals to harvest brain tissue from House Republicans have met with rejections from the NSF.

How can Science advance at this rate?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know. I know.</p>
<p>All my grant proposals to harvest brain tissue from House Republicans have met with rejections from the NSF.</p>
<p>How can Science advance at this rate?!</p>
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		<title>By: jonathanturley</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9686</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonathanturley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DW:

I know.  Every time I ask for even a million, the government gets all snotty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DW:</p>
<p>I know.  Every time I ask for even a million, the government gets all snotty.</p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/298m-to-aey-for-ammo-in-afghanistan-03152/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/298m-to-aey-for-ammo-in-afghanistan-03152/" rel="nofollow">http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/298m-to-aey-for-ammo-in-afghanistan-03152/</a></p>
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		<title>By: deeply worried</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deeply worried]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How in the world did this young individual get a 200 million DOD contract?????

The last time I checked, such bids required extensive disclosure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How in the world did this young individual get a 200 million DOD contract?????</p>
<p>The last time I checked, such bids required extensive disclosure.</p>
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		<title>By: commoner</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[commoner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it wrong that I aspire to be an arms dealer? So sleazy yet so profitable yet so evil yet sooooooo profitable... :) I personally was ripped off by some sleazebag in Florida who bought a couple million stolen credit card records then sold it to a somewhat reputable marketing slimeball who then flipped around and sold it to some quasi-respectable companies. Perhaps I should forgo the vagaries of law school and instead set up shop in Florida.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it wrong that I aspire to be an arms dealer? So sleazy yet so profitable yet so evil yet sooooooo profitable&#8230; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I personally was ripped off by some sleazebag in Florida who bought a couple million stolen credit card records then sold it to a somewhat reputable marketing slimeball who then flipped around and sold it to some quasi-respectable companies. Perhaps I should forgo the vagaries of law school and instead set up shop in Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t mean to &quot;hog the blog&quot; but this is priceless. According to our young entrepreneur, Efraim E. Diveroli&#039;s, MySpace page, his favorite movies are,in order: Heat, Blow and Scarface. Seems that his fantastic yearnings about gangsters have now become ra eality. I did learn  that he is a &quot;super nice guy&quot; and can&#039;t cook. Attributes that will serve him well in federal prison.

See it for yourself: 
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendid=31397346]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t mean to &#8220;hog the blog&#8221; but this is priceless. According to our young entrepreneur, Efraim E. Diveroli&#8217;s, MySpace page, his favorite movies are,in order: Heat, Blow and Scarface. Seems that his fantastic yearnings about gangsters have now become ra eality. I did learn  that he is a &#8220;super nice guy&#8221; and can&#8217;t cook. Attributes that will serve him well in federal prison.</p>
<p>See it for yourself:<br />
<a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&#038;friendid=31397346" rel="nofollow">http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&#038;friendid=31397346</a></p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/28/lad-of-war-administration-gave-22-year-olds-company-200-million-for-faulty-chinese-ammunition/#comment-9634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To all:

Here&#039;s a little update from The Guardian newspaper:

&quot;The Pentagon entrusted a 22-year-old previously arrested for domestic violence and having a forged driving licence to be the main supplier of ammunition to Afghan forces at the height of the battle against the Taliban, it was reported yesterday.

AEY, essentially a one-man operation based in an unmarked office in Miami Beach, Florida, was awarded a contract worth $300m (£150m) to supply the Afghan army and police in January last year. But as the New York Times reported in a lengthy investigation, AEY&#039;s president, Efraim Diversoli, 22, supplied stock that was 40 years old and rotting packing material.

&quot;Much of the ammunition comes from the ageing stockpiles of the old communist bloc, including stockpiles that the state department and Nato have determined to be unreliable and obsolete, and have spent millions of dollars to have destroyed,&quot; the paper said.&quot;

To all but kermudgeon:
The webpage for the article is: 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/28/afghanistan.usa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a little update from The Guardian newspaper:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Pentagon entrusted a 22-year-old previously arrested for domestic violence and having a forged driving licence to be the main supplier of ammunition to Afghan forces at the height of the battle against the Taliban, it was reported yesterday.</p>
<p>AEY, essentially a one-man operation based in an unmarked office in Miami Beach, Florida, was awarded a contract worth $300m (£150m) to supply the Afghan army and police in January last year. But as the New York Times reported in a lengthy investigation, AEY&#8217;s president, Efraim Diversoli, 22, supplied stock that was 40 years old and rotting packing material.</p>
<p>&#8220;Much of the ammunition comes from the ageing stockpiles of the old communist bloc, including stockpiles that the state department and Nato have determined to be unreliable and obsolete, and have spent millions of dollars to have destroyed,&#8221; the paper said.&#8221;</p>
<p>To all but kermudgeon:<br />
The webpage for the article is:<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/28/afghanistan.usa" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/28/afghanistan.usa</a></p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kermudgeon:

That you thought the NYT out of business is no surprise to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kermudgeon:</p>
<p>That you thought the NYT out of business is no surprise to me.</p>
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		<title>By: kermudgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kermudgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rcambell: quoting from the NYT?   LOL.  I didn&#039;t even know they were still in business...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rcambell: quoting from the NYT?   LOL.  I didn&#8217;t even know they were still in business&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rcampbell:

Yes, but probably not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rcampbell:</p>
<p>Yes, but probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: rcampbell</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where it&#039;s always a good idea to keep an open mind in criminal cases, I clipped the snippet below from the NYT article about this case.  It appears on the surface that it might take a bit more than two attorneys and your sarcasm to get this young &quot;entrepeneur&quot; out of the jam he created for himself.  

Entrepeneur, is that what righties call business people who cheat the government, engage in war profiteering and jeopardize US allies&#039; and potentially US soldiers lives?  Let&#039;s see, no-bid contracts to Halliburton who gave foul water to US troops in Iraq or the indiscriminate mercenary murderers/rapists of Blackwater--I guess the answer is yes.

From NYT
 
&quot;....Much of the ammunition comes from the aging stockpiles of the old Communist bloc, including stockpiles that the State Department and NATO have determined to be unreliable and obsolete, and have spent millions of dollars to have destroyed.

In purchasing munitions, the contractor has also worked with middlemen and a shell company on a federal list of entities suspected of illegal arms trafficking.

Moreover, tens of millions of the rifle and machine-gun cartridges were manufactured in China, making their procurement a possible violation of American law. The company’s president, Efraim E. Diveroli, was also secretly recorded in a conversation that suggested corruption in his company’s purchase of more than 100 million aging rounds in Albania, according to audio files of the conversation.

But I could be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where it&#8217;s always a good idea to keep an open mind in criminal cases, I clipped the snippet below from the NYT article about this case.  It appears on the surface that it might take a bit more than two attorneys and your sarcasm to get this young &#8220;entrepeneur&#8221; out of the jam he created for himself.  </p>
<p>Entrepeneur, is that what righties call business people who cheat the government, engage in war profiteering and jeopardize US allies&#8217; and potentially US soldiers lives?  Let&#8217;s see, no-bid contracts to Halliburton who gave foul water to US troops in Iraq or the indiscriminate mercenary murderers/rapists of Blackwater&#8211;I guess the answer is yes.</p>
<p>From NYT</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.Much of the ammunition comes from the aging stockpiles of the old Communist bloc, including stockpiles that the State Department and NATO have determined to be unreliable and obsolete, and have spent millions of dollars to have destroyed.</p>
<p>In purchasing munitions, the contractor has also worked with middlemen and a shell company on a federal list of entities suspected of illegal arms trafficking.</p>
<p>Moreover, tens of millions of the rifle and machine-gun cartridges were manufactured in China, making their procurement a possible violation of American law. The company’s president, Efraim E. Diveroli, was also secretly recorded in a conversation that suggested corruption in his company’s purchase of more than 100 million aging rounds in Albania, according to audio files of the conversation.</p>
<p>But I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kermudgeon:

Do you think the contract specs called for 40 year old Chinese ammo rather than new Hungarian rounds? If not, he&#039;s a fraud. Plus, I guess you missed the part in the article where it clearly indicated the ammo was &quot;corroded,&quot; and judging by its age, could have been used against American vessels by the NVA in the Gulf of Tonkin. Nothing gives you confidence on a battlefield like legitimate worries about your ammo. Must you really read only those parts you like. Try the entire article occasionally. It saves a lot of embarrassment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kermudgeon:</p>
<p>Do you think the contract specs called for 40 year old Chinese ammo rather than new Hungarian rounds? If not, he&#8217;s a fraud. Plus, I guess you missed the part in the article where it clearly indicated the ammo was &#8220;corroded,&#8221; and judging by its age, could have been used against American vessels by the NVA in the Gulf of Tonkin. Nothing gives you confidence on a battlefield like legitimate worries about your ammo. Must you really read only those parts you like. Try the entire article occasionally. It saves a lot of embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: kermudgeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Misleading title.  The ammunition was not faulty, it was old but old ammunition, even 40 years such as some of this was, is not a problem as far as servicability.  The Chinese government would hardly arm its own military with 7.62 &quot;shoddy&quot; ammunition.

The problem is it WAS from China.  The packaging had deteriorated which drew attention to it.  Had this ammunition been repackaged I doubt if anyone would have ever noticed.

Interesting how the left celebrates a celebrity such as the Girls Gone Wild founder who ends up in jail, but a young entrepaneur is considered guilty before there is even a trial. 

This doesn&#039;t sound like anything a team of 2 $500 an hour attorneys can&#039;t get him out of.......but I could be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misleading title.  The ammunition was not faulty, it was old but old ammunition, even 40 years such as some of this was, is not a problem as far as servicability.  The Chinese government would hardly arm its own military with 7.62 &#8220;shoddy&#8221; ammunition.</p>
<p>The problem is it WAS from China.  The packaging had deteriorated which drew attention to it.  Had this ammunition been repackaged I doubt if anyone would have ever noticed.</p>
<p>Interesting how the left celebrates a celebrity such as the Girls Gone Wild founder who ends up in jail, but a young entrepaneur is considered guilty before there is even a trial. </p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t sound like anything a team of 2 $500 an hour attorneys can&#8217;t get him out of&#8230;&#8230;.but I could be wrong.</p>
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