Comments on: Atheist in the Foxhole: Soldier Sues Gates for Discrimination http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/ Res ipsa loquitur ("The thing itself speaks") Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:53:02 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Dolly Dagger http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/#comment-12368 Dolly Dagger Thu, 01 May 2008 23:19:22 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1657#comment-12368 To be fair to Welborn, please look at his website: www.myspace.com/freddywelborn To be fair to Welborn, please look at his website:

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]]> By: JR http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/#comment-12024 JR Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:05:45 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1657#comment-12024 If you follow this link, you'll see the V.A.'s list of headstone markers for veterans: http://www.cem.va.gov/cem/hm/hmemb.asp I think #16 might be directly relevant to the subject at hand, considering. If you follow this link, you’ll see the V.A.’s list of headstone markers for veterans: http://www.cem.va.gov/cem/hm/hmemb.asp

I think #16 might be directly relevant to the subject at hand, considering.

]]> By: Scarlett http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/#comment-11961 Scarlett Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:41:16 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1657#comment-11961 I find this ridiculous. Obviously, there are atheists in foxholes, and the fact that they are there means that they are doing their job. That should be respected in the military just as it should be in the private sector. I hope he wins because this is something that should not be tolerated in a free country where we have the right to choose our religion. Of course, we've seen plenty of evidence lately that that is not necessarily the case--especially when the media gets involved. I find this ridiculous. Obviously, there are atheists in foxholes, and the fact that they are there means that they are doing their job. That should be respected in the military just as it should be in the private sector. I hope he wins because this is something that should not be tolerated in a free country where we have the right to choose our religion. Of course, we’ve seen plenty of evidence lately that that is not necessarily the case–especially when the media gets involved.

]]> By: mespo727272 http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/#comment-11960 mespo727272 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:34:16 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1657#comment-11960 Niblet: "This guy has issues. His fellow soldiers are right to be wary of him and the military has every right to take whatever steps they see necessary to assure unit cohesion." ********************** My uncle, a decorated, army platoon sergeant who served through the desegregation of the armed forces, told me that was the same reasoning employed to support the racist policy of segregating the troops. Tell me, do you see a pattern among the reactionary elements of our society? They really are not very creative. Niblet:

“This guy has issues. His fellow soldiers are right to be wary of him and the military has every right to take whatever steps they see necessary to assure unit cohesion.”
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My uncle, a decorated, army platoon sergeant who served through the desegregation of the armed forces, told me that was the same reasoning employed to support the racist policy of segregating the troops. Tell me, do you see a pattern among the reactionary elements of our society? They really are not very creative.

]]> By: mespo727272 http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/#comment-11958 mespo727272 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:17:00 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1657#comment-11958 Susan: I certainly enjoy seeing that the conflating of Christian charity and martial vigor is back in vogue. Like Twain said, the report of its demise was quite exaggerated. As we all can see, it certainly inured to the benefit of Jeremy Hall and quite as expected. Shipped back to Ft. Riley after facing hostile fire, he must surely now understand that catchy lyric, "we shall know they are Christians by their love." I should ask, was the "hostile fire" from the Iraqi insurgents? Susan:

I certainly enjoy seeing that the conflating of Christian charity and martial vigor is back in vogue. Like Twain said, the report of its demise was quite exaggerated. As we all can see, it certainly inured to the benefit of Jeremy Hall and quite as expected. Shipped back to Ft. Riley after facing hostile fire, he must surely now understand that catchy lyric, “we shall know they are Christians by their love.” I should ask, was the “hostile fire” from the Iraqi insurgents?

]]> By: Susan http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/#comment-11956 Susan Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:46:04 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1657#comment-11956 JT, this is the usual religionist nonsense from people who are supposed to be not only Christians (you know, the old "judge not, lest ye be judged" philosophy), but also soldiers whose only purpose is serving their country, both in overseas active duty and at home. From what I have read in the news story, Mr. Hall has been doing just that. The only "issues" he has are with those who have been harassing him unnecessarily and unjustly for being what they have been saying "doesn't exist," which is an "atheist in a foxhole." Their unfair treatment of Mr. Hall is a perfect illustration of what we (secularists) call a christian hypocrite. There are obviously plenty of THOSE in foxholes. JT, this is the usual religionist nonsense from people who are supposed to be not only Christians (you know, the old “judge not, lest ye be judged” philosophy), but also soldiers whose only purpose is serving their country, both in overseas active duty and at home. From what I have read in the news story, Mr. Hall has been doing just that.

The only “issues” he has are with those who have been harassing him unnecessarily and unjustly for being what they have been saying “doesn’t exist,” which is an “atheist in a foxhole.” Their unfair treatment of Mr. Hall is a perfect illustration of what we (secularists) call a christian hypocrite. There are obviously plenty of THOSE in foxholes.

]]> By: niblet http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/#comment-11952 niblet Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:58:17 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1657#comment-11952 This guy has issues. His fellow soldiers are right to be wary of him and the military has every right to take whatever steps they see necessary to assure unit cohesion. This guy has issues. His fellow soldiers are right to be wary of him and the military has every right to take whatever steps they see necessary to assure unit cohesion.

]]> By: Jill http://jonathanturley.org/2008/04/27/atheist-in-the-foxhole-soldier-sues-gates-for-discrimination/#comment-11942 Jill Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:15:43 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=1657#comment-11942 JT, I am unable to get to the full story link. It loops back to your original posting. Perhaps my computer is being punished for being, in part, made of plexiglass, and serving as an idol to Mr. Hall. Thanks, Jill JT,

I am unable to get to the full story link. It loops back to your original posting. Perhaps my computer is being punished for being, in part, made of plexiglass, and serving as an idol to Mr. Hall.

Thanks,

Jill

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