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	<title>Comments on: Second Circuit Upholds Punishment of High School Student for Out-of-School Web Entry</title>
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		<title>By: newsrackblog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sotomayor&#8217;s douchebag verdict</title>
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		<dc:creator>newsrackblog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sotomayor&#8217;s douchebag verdict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;..Shepard’s indicates that this case was followed in 23 subsequent cases.&#8221; As Jonathan Turley wrote in discussing this case, &#8220;[w]hile federal courts routinely state that students do not “shed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;..Shepard’s indicates that this case was followed in 23 subsequent cases.&#8221; As Jonathan Turley wrote in discussing this case, &#8220;[w]hile federal courts routinely state that students do not “shed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What the Didden Case Tells Us About Sotomayor&#8217;s Attitude Towards Property Rights: &#124; My Legal Spot</title>
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		<dc:creator>What the Didden Case Tells Us About Sotomayor&#8217;s Attitude Towards Property Rights: &#124; My Legal Spot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Doninger in the first part of my LA Times debate with Erwin Chemerinsky. Liberal legal scholars Jonathan Turley and Paul Levinson have been even more critical of Sotomayor&#8217;s Doninger opinion than I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Doninger in the first part of my LA Times debate with Erwin Chemerinsky. Liberal legal scholars Jonathan Turley and Paul Levinson have been even more critical of Sotomayor&#8217;s Doninger opinion than I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sonia Sotomayor &#171; Tinker The Thinkers</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-58705</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia Sotomayor &#171; Tinker The Thinkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] officials in an Internet blog post written outside the school. As liberal scholars Jonathan Turley and Paul Levinson have emphasized, this ruling poses a serious threat to the free speech rights of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sonia Sotomayor Is SCOTUS Nominee: Let The Fun Begin (Updated) &#124; The SmackDog Chronicles (Ver. 2.6)</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-55766</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia Sotomayor Is SCOTUS Nominee: Let The Fun Begin (Updated) &#124; The SmackDog Chronicles (Ver. 2.6)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as Constitutional scholar and law-professor Jonathan Turley put it about this decision last year, &#8220;The continual expansion of the authority of school [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Make No Laws &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Free Speech Further Defined and Limited</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-53535</link>
		<dc:creator>Make No Laws &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Free Speech Further Defined and Limited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] right she was. Last May the U.S. Court of Appeals of the Second Circuit in New York City ruled against a high school student who was punished by school administrators for exercising her fre.... She did call the administrators &#8220;douchbags&#8221; in an email but while someone may be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] right she was. Last May the U.S. Court of Appeals of the Second Circuit in New York City ruled against a high school student who was punished by school administrators for exercising her fre&#8230;. She did call the administrators &#8220;douchbags&#8221; in an email but while someone may be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Karpa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Karpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 04:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you actually read the opinion?

This opinion only looks to whether she had a &quot;a clear likelihood of success on the merits of her First Amendment claim.&quot;  Since it is 100% clear that she&#039;s got a loser of an argument on school grounds, it&#039;s at best a close question whether she *might* win with internet speech *designed* to reach onto school grounds.

That&#039;s a long, long way from determining that she&#039;s got a substantially likelihood of success on such a close question.  It is also hugely far from establishing the precedent for the proposition you cite.

It&#039;s all about the procedural posture and the standard of review, professor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you actually read the opinion?</p>
<p>This opinion only looks to whether she had a &#8220;a clear likelihood of success on the merits of her First Amendment claim.&#8221;  Since it is 100% clear that she&#8217;s got a loser of an argument on school grounds, it&#8217;s at best a close question whether she *might* win with internet speech *designed* to reach onto school grounds.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a long, long way from determining that she&#8217;s got a substantially likelihood of success on such a close question.  It is also hugely far from establishing the precedent for the proposition you cite.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about the procedural posture and the standard of review, professor.</p>
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		<title>By: andy thibault</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy thibault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Student Was Punished
For Seeking Redresss Of Grievances
After Postponements, Cancellation
Of Popular Music Festival

DON&#039;T FORGET ABOUT THE TRIAL
In U.S. District Court, New Haven,
For Suppression &amp; Seizure Of Free Speech T-Shirts


GO GET &#039;EM, GARY!

http://cooljustice.blogspot.com/2009/02/go-get-em-gary.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Student Was Punished<br />
For Seeking Redresss Of Grievances<br />
After Postponements, Cancellation<br />
Of Popular Music Festival</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T FORGET ABOUT THE TRIAL<br />
In U.S. District Court, New Haven,<br />
For Suppression &amp; Seizure Of Free Speech T-Shirts</p>
<p>GO GET &#8216;EM, GARY!</p>
<p><a href="http://cooljustice.blogspot.com/2009/02/go-get-em-gary.html" rel="nofollow">http://cooljustice.blogspot.com/2009/02/go-get-em-gary.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Free Speech Rights and Wrongs in Walla Walla: School Officials Crack Down on Inappropriate Bumper Stickers on Cars of Students &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-31006</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Speech Rights and Wrongs in Walla Walla: School Officials Crack Down on Inappropriate Bumper Stickers on Cars of Students &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For a discussion of other such speech cases, click here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alaska School System Settles &#8220;Bong Hits 4 Jesus&#8221; Case &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-27997</link>
		<dc:creator>Alaska School System Settles &#8220;Bong Hits 4 Jesus&#8221; Case &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in 2007 for the Board &#8212; a decision that I strongly disagreed with and one that has encouraged over-reaching by school officials into protected areas. Frederick, however continued to litigate, claiming among other things that his first amendment [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in 2007 for the Board &#8212; a decision that I strongly disagreed with and one that has encouraged over-reaching by school officials into protected areas. Frederick, however continued to litigate, claiming among other things that his first amendment [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Censorship 101: High School Shuts Down Student Newspaper Over Flag-Burning Photograph &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-14471</link>
		<dc:creator>Censorship 101: High School Shuts Down Student Newspaper Over Flag-Burning Photograph &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is only the latest in such crackdowns on free speech and other rights in our schools, click here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: not so sure</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-14280</link>
		<dc:creator>not so sure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read through most of the case.  I think the Principal acted well, and other students should learn from this!  Schools need to provide discipline, and if the class trip is over to a web blog, so be it.  As a student officer, you have a public image to uphold (for yourself and the school).  If she were in a political party, she would loose her nomiation as well!!!

The best place for such comments is either a diary, or private IM session.  On the internet adults have sometimes lost their composure when getting involved in flame wars.  Quality content is lost in the heat of the moment.

Now the Administrators did not send her to detention cuz there was no &quot;crime&quot; committed.  If they did, then free speech violation would be of concern.  This is the mild difference between discipline and punishment.

I am interested in the &quot;Bong Hits 4 Jesus&quot; case.  If not holding an office, and not breaking the law, I&#039;m not sure how the case can ever be upheld.  Again I am not familier the case about filtering smoke and referencing Christ, so I have to duck out here...

L8r</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read through most of the case.  I think the Principal acted well, and other students should learn from this!  Schools need to provide discipline, and if the class trip is over to a web blog, so be it.  As a student officer, you have a public image to uphold (for yourself and the school).  If she were in a political party, she would loose her nomiation as well!!!</p>
<p>The best place for such comments is either a diary, or private IM session.  On the internet adults have sometimes lost their composure when getting involved in flame wars.  Quality content is lost in the heat of the moment.</p>
<p>Now the Administrators did not send her to detention cuz there was no &#8220;crime&#8221; committed.  If they did, then free speech violation would be of concern.  This is the mild difference between discipline and punishment.</p>
<p>I am interested in the &#8220;Bong Hits 4 Jesus&#8221; case.  If not holding an office, and not breaking the law, I&#8217;m not sure how the case can ever be upheld.  Again I am not familier the case about filtering smoke and referencing Christ, so I have to duck out here&#8230;</p>
<p>L8r</p>
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		<title>By: JOLT Digest &#187; Doninger v. Niehoff</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-14159</link>
		<dc:creator>JOLT Digest &#187; Doninger v. Niehoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Professor Jonathan Turley views the decision as part of a &#8220;steady eradication of student rights&#8221; and thinks the decision teaches a &#8220;foul lesson to these future citizens.&#8221;  While he thinks that punishment is warranted when students use vulgar language or behave inappropriately, he thinks this punishment should come from parents and not school authorities. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Professor Jonathan Turley views the decision as part of a &#8220;steady eradication of student rights&#8221; and thinks the decision teaches a &#8220;foul lesson to these future citizens.&#8221;  While he thinks that punishment is warranted when students use vulgar language or behave inappropriately, he thinks this punishment should come from parents and not school authorities. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: whooliebacon</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-14099</link>
		<dc:creator>whooliebacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advocacy restricted because of the perception that the internet was used as a potty mouth weapon instead of a tool.

The standard tool of the bureaucrat...retaliation.

Definition of a bureaucrat:  one in authority that completely disregards common sense and goes ballistic when their authority (policy) is questioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advocacy restricted because of the perception that the internet was used as a potty mouth weapon instead of a tool.</p>
<p>The standard tool of the bureaucrat&#8230;retaliation.</p>
<p>Definition of a bureaucrat:  one in authority that completely disregards common sense and goes ballistic when their authority (policy) is questioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-14082</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob, Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 08:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Territoriality is a very useful concept in defining the limit of law enforcement’s authority,&quot;

It was also Hooper&#039;s theory of rogue sharks in Jaws. 

&quot;but the good judges here fret about the poor school administrator, inundated by calls and emails from her disgruntled constituency&quot;

How does inconvenience convey jurisdictional power upon the school or the courts?

If it were a private school, then it&#039;s a case of &quot;buy the ticket, take the ride.&quot;   

But what the hell is this?

&quot;she could be punished under a rule that students must “demonstrat[e] qualities of good citizenship at all times.”&#039;

Lead by example?  Good citizenship is equivalent to treating the Constitution like a urinal puck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Territoriality is a very useful concept in defining the limit of law enforcement’s authority,&#8221;</p>
<p>It was also Hooper&#8217;s theory of rogue sharks in Jaws. </p>
<p>&#8220;but the good judges here fret about the poor school administrator, inundated by calls and emails from her disgruntled constituency&#8221;</p>
<p>How does inconvenience convey jurisdictional power upon the school or the courts?</p>
<p>If it were a private school, then it&#8217;s a case of &#8220;buy the ticket, take the ride.&#8221;   </p>
<p>But what the hell is this?</p>
<p>&#8220;she could be punished under a rule that students must “demonstrat[e] qualities of good citizenship at all times.”&#8217;</p>
<p>Lead by example?  Good citizenship is equivalent to treating the Constitution like a urinal puck?</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rafflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where does the authority of this school administrator begin and where does it end?  If the student in July makes a derogatory statement to a third party and the administrator hears about it,can she discipline this student?  If the answer is yes, then the student has lost his/her freedom of speech.  I don&#039;t care if it is a verbal statement or a written statment in paper or on the internet.  Where in the Constitution does it say that a student loses his/her First Amendment right when they become a student?  How old does this student have to be before they &quot;regain&quot; their constitutional rights?  Does a college student at a public university have a First Amendment right to freedom of speech when he/she is 18, 19, 20 or 21?
This type of decision is a dangerous usurption of Constitutional rights.  This is another example of how important those Senate confirmation hearings for Roberts and Alito were.  If the school has control of students First Amendment rights as outlined in the above cases, do they have liability for the student who is walking with other students off of school grounds and is hit by a car an killed?  Where does this territorial concept end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does the authority of this school administrator begin and where does it end?  If the student in July makes a derogatory statement to a third party and the administrator hears about it,can she discipline this student?  If the answer is yes, then the student has lost his/her freedom of speech.  I don&#8217;t care if it is a verbal statement or a written statment in paper or on the internet.  Where in the Constitution does it say that a student loses his/her First Amendment right when they become a student?  How old does this student have to be before they &#8220;regain&#8221; their constitutional rights?  Does a college student at a public university have a First Amendment right to freedom of speech when he/she is 18, 19, 20 or 21?<br />
This type of decision is a dangerous usurption of Constitutional rights.  This is another example of how important those Senate confirmation hearings for Roberts and Alito were.  If the school has control of students First Amendment rights as outlined in the above cases, do they have liability for the student who is walking with other students off of school grounds and is hit by a car an killed?  Where does this territorial concept end?</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We are acutely attentive in this context to the need to draw a clear line between student activity that “affects matter of legitimate concern to the school community,” and activity that does not. Thomas v. Bd. of Educ., 607 F.2d 1043, 1058 n.13 (2d Cir. 1979) (Newman, J., concurring in the result). But as Judge Newman accurately observed some years ago, “territoriality is not necessarily a useful concept in determining the limit of [school administrators’] authority.&quot;
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Territoriality is a very useful concept in defining the limit of law enforcement&#039;s authority, but the good judges here fret about the poor school administrator, inundated by calls and emails from her disgruntled constituency.  Obviously, we must protect our government officials from dissent by the public, these jurists reason, or else we&#039;ll have real democracy where the will of the public might actually be considered.  And as for potty mouth speech, it will be grudgingly tolerated when it doesn&#039;t criticize the politburo, er... I mean the government officials. Talk about Brittney and Paris all you want, but leave the poor, impotent government official alone to do her work as she sees fit without scrutiny.

I wonder if these reactionary judges ever stop to consider that cowling the free expression of students might tend to cowl their free expression when they are adults, leading inevitably to a docile populace ever susceptible to tyranny. Nah, that would be too farsighted for this country club crowd, whose main concern, we have seen on this blog, seems to be protecting hubby&#039;s interests at the bank, or making jokes at the expense of the citizens who pay them.  Lest you believe that evil occurs only through the actions of evil men, I give you these terminally misguided souls who exist only to promote law and order at the expense of freedom.

Lenny Bruce had it right:&quot; [t]ake away the right to say f**k and you take away the right to say f**k the government.&quot;

&quot;Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.&quot;
--Aristotle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are acutely attentive in this context to the need to draw a clear line between student activity that “affects matter of legitimate concern to the school community,” and activity that does not. Thomas v. Bd. of Educ., 607 F.2d 1043, 1058 n.13 (2d Cir. 1979) (Newman, J., concurring in the result). But as Judge Newman accurately observed some years ago, “territoriality is not necessarily a useful concept in determining the limit of [school administrators’] authority.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Territoriality is a very useful concept in defining the limit of law enforcement&#8217;s authority, but the good judges here fret about the poor school administrator, inundated by calls and emails from her disgruntled constituency.  Obviously, we must protect our government officials from dissent by the public, these jurists reason, or else we&#8217;ll have real democracy where the will of the public might actually be considered.  And as for potty mouth speech, it will be grudgingly tolerated when it doesn&#8217;t criticize the politburo, er&#8230; I mean the government officials. Talk about Brittney and Paris all you want, but leave the poor, impotent government official alone to do her work as she sees fit without scrutiny.</p>
<p>I wonder if these reactionary judges ever stop to consider that cowling the free expression of students might tend to cowl their free expression when they are adults, leading inevitably to a docile populace ever susceptible to tyranny. Nah, that would be too farsighted for this country club crowd, whose main concern, we have seen on this blog, seems to be protecting hubby&#8217;s interests at the bank, or making jokes at the expense of the citizens who pay them.  Lest you believe that evil occurs only through the actions of evil men, I give you these terminally misguided souls who exist only to promote law and order at the expense of freedom.</p>
<p>Lenny Bruce had it right:&#8221; [t]ake away the right to say f**k and you take away the right to say f**k the government.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Aristotle.</p>
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		<title>By: disillusionedbabyboomer</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/05/30/second-circuit-upholds-punishment-of-high-school-student-for-out-of-school-web-entry/#comment-14036</link>
		<dc:creator>disillusionedbabyboomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another misguided step in the destruction of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The disgusting decisions such as this and the high-handed, illegal manner in which government at all levels has chosen to act over the past 8 years are eroding the fundamental values of our nation. The development of a dictatorship in the White House and the growth of the powers of executive branches of government at every level has crushed individual freedoms, and that, in turn, has devalued America as a repository of freedom and opportunity. It is a joke for our government to pretend to spread freedom and democracy around the world at a time when our governments, be they local, state or federal, deprive Americans of the same freedoms. Speech is to be protected, and that was in the First Amendment because it was that important. Now, speech can be restricted, property can be taken by eminent domain for non-public, commercial purposes, searches and seizures can be conducted without notice or probable cause, and the separation of church and state has been abolished, all to the detriment of &quot;The American Way&quot;.  If Superman were here, he might not find anything worth fighting for. I&#039;m glad my parents passed away before they had to witness such a horror as the ruination of the United States. Worst of all, school officials are breeding a new generation of youth who won&#039;t even know any better. A sad commentary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another misguided step in the destruction of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The disgusting decisions such as this and the high-handed, illegal manner in which government at all levels has chosen to act over the past 8 years are eroding the fundamental values of our nation. The development of a dictatorship in the White House and the growth of the powers of executive branches of government at every level has crushed individual freedoms, and that, in turn, has devalued America as a repository of freedom and opportunity. It is a joke for our government to pretend to spread freedom and democracy around the world at a time when our governments, be they local, state or federal, deprive Americans of the same freedoms. Speech is to be protected, and that was in the First Amendment because it was that important. Now, speech can be restricted, property can be taken by eminent domain for non-public, commercial purposes, searches and seizures can be conducted without notice or probable cause, and the separation of church and state has been abolished, all to the detriment of &#8220;The American Way&#8221;.  If Superman were here, he might not find anything worth fighting for. I&#8217;m glad my parents passed away before they had to witness such a horror as the ruination of the United States. Worst of all, school officials are breeding a new generation of youth who won&#8217;t even know any better. A sad commentary!</p>
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