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	<title>Comments on: Wendy Whitaker:  Another Outrage Emerges From Georgia&#8217;s Statutory Rape Law</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Bar</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-73098</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not mind the s, I meant the one in the USA off course. It works with every other Georgia in the world as well, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not mind the s, I meant the one in the USA off course. It works with every other Georgia in the world as well, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bar</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-73097</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way : if Georgias does not suit you, there are dozens of other states and if the USA are not good enough for you, ask your nearest Saudian embassy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way : if Georgias does not suit you, there are dozens of other states and if the USA are not good enough for you, ask your nearest Saudian embassy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bar</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-73096</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;s the stupid idiot that compares puritans and talebans ? The ones founded America such a way it soon became a rich country, the other ones just want to destroy it and spread misery and poverty wherever they go !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;s the stupid idiot that compares puritans and talebans ? The ones founded America such a way it soon became a rich country, the other ones just want to destroy it and spread misery and poverty wherever they go !</p>
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		<title>By: Negligence and Official Dereliction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Negligence and Official Dereliction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a pretty good rationale today that Americans are simply stupid. The resistance to universal healthcare is appalling. The reason it will not work well is that the USA is full of both official thieves and people incapable of work ethic and vision required for effective public services. So, pass healthcare legislation and then confront the fact that your government and people are so greedy, lazy and corrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a pretty good rationale today that Americans are simply stupid. The resistance to universal healthcare is appalling. The reason it will not work well is that the USA is full of both official thieves and people incapable of work ethic and vision required for effective public services. So, pass healthcare legislation and then confront the fact that your government and people are so greedy, lazy and corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Techie</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-43024</link>
		<dc:creator>Techie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No, that was done in 1880’s through the 1950’s. Georgia was second only to Mississippi in the total numbers. They used trees instead of firing squads and were “generous” enough to include male as well as female African-Americans. Sometimes you could see the badges of the cops underneath those satiny white robes. They are much more subtle now against people they don’t like. History is fun. You should try it sometime.&quot;

Such tolerance, such reasoned arguing.  I&#039;ve been convinced in your superior position.

I eagerly await your denouncement of Massachusetts for hanging witches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No, that was done in 1880’s through the 1950’s. Georgia was second only to Mississippi in the total numbers. They used trees instead of firing squads and were “generous” enough to include male as well as female African-Americans. Sometimes you could see the badges of the cops underneath those satiny white robes. They are much more subtle now against people they don’t like. History is fun. You should try it sometime.&#8221;</p>
<p>Such tolerance, such reasoned arguing.  I&#8217;ve been convinced in your superior position.</p>
<p>I eagerly await your denouncement of Massachusetts for hanging witches.</p>
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		<title>By: Registering Ricky: Teen Posted as Sex Offender in Oklahoma for Consensual Sex With Another Teen in Expunged Conviction &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-30698</link>
		<dc:creator>Registering Ricky: Teen Posted as Sex Offender in Oklahoma for Consensual Sex With Another Teen in Expunged Conviction &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] problems in both statutory rape and sex offender laws. We have recently seen great abuses here and here and here. For the full story, click here. Ricky may glimpse his future by looking at the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] problems in both statutory rape and sex offender laws. We have recently seen great abuses here and here and here. For the full story, click here. Ricky may glimpse his future by looking at the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-17767</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything about this case is outrageous. First, she committed (what should be considered) a minor infraction when she herself was still a juvenile. They should have given her some counseling and left it at that! She shouldn&#039;t have a criminal record 11 years later, let alone be on the sex offender registry. Georgia&#039;s sex offender laws are the worst in America and, for that matter, some of the worst laws ever written, period. In another Georgia case, a homeless sex offender is facing a MANDATORY LIFE SENTENCE because (being homeless) he could not provide a valid residence address on two occasions. A mandatory life sentence for two technical violations??? What were Georgia lawmakers thinking? Hopefully, this entire law will finally be torn apart by the GA Supreme Court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything about this case is outrageous. First, she committed (what should be considered) a minor infraction when she herself was still a juvenile. They should have given her some counseling and left it at that! She shouldn&#8217;t have a criminal record 11 years later, let alone be on the sex offender registry. Georgia&#8217;s sex offender laws are the worst in America and, for that matter, some of the worst laws ever written, period. In another Georgia case, a homeless sex offender is facing a MANDATORY LIFE SENTENCE because (being homeless) he could not provide a valid residence address on two occasions. A mandatory life sentence for two technical violations??? What were Georgia lawmakers thinking? Hopefully, this entire law will finally be torn apart by the GA Supreme Court.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-17081</link>
		<dc:creator>rafflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan,
The Bhurka suggestion just might be what women in Georgia need to protect themselves from being &quot;lawbreakers&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan,<br />
The Bhurka suggestion just might be what women in Georgia need to protect themselves from being &#8220;lawbreakers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-17062</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rafflaw wrote:
By the way Dundar, is it only women who have sex prior to marriage that you consider a prostitute?
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That wouldn&#039;t surprise me a bit.  I&#039;m sure he doesn&#039;t much like women who wear &quot;loose&quot; clothing (anything but a bhurka or FLDS-style pioneer dress) either.</description>
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By the way Dundar, is it only women who have sex prior to marriage that you consider a prostitute?<br />
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<p>That wouldn&#8217;t surprise me a bit.  I&#8217;m sure he doesn&#8217;t much like women who wear &#8220;loose&#8221; clothing (anything but a bhurka or FLDS-style pioneer dress) either.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/15/wendy-whitaker-another-outrage-emerges-from-georgias-statutory-rape-law/#comment-17061</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess; when she was 17 years old, Ms. Whitaker had NO idea that sex with a 15-year-old was against the law.  I&#039;m wondering how many teenagers, IF any at all, have read their state&#039;s penal codes on what actually constitutes ILLEGAL sex?  I&#039;m going to say ZERO.  Here&#039;s a question for overzealous, anti-teen-sex prosecutors too; did THEY know what their state&#039;s penal codes were on &quot;illegal sex&quot; at the time THEY were teenagers?  I would say probably NOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess; when she was 17 years old, Ms. Whitaker had NO idea that sex with a 15-year-old was against the law.  I&#8217;m wondering how many teenagers, IF any at all, have read their state&#8217;s penal codes on what actually constitutes ILLEGAL sex?  I&#8217;m going to say ZERO.  Here&#8217;s a question for overzealous, anti-teen-sex prosecutors too; did THEY know what their state&#8217;s penal codes were on &#8220;illegal sex&#8221; at the time THEY were teenagers?  I would say probably NOT.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh:

Damn, wish I &#039;d have said that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh:</p>
<p>Damn, wish I &#8216;d have said that!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dundar:
&quot;The good citizens of Georgia are not executing by firing squads women just accused of being prostitutes.&quot;

Yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dundar:<br />
&#8220;The good citizens of Georgia are not executing by firing squads women just accused of being prostitutes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see the underage prosecution/conviction/sentencing numbers broken down between similarly situated girls and boys.  There is a stong attitude of punishment in this society towards girls having sex.

There are cases when I think sex between teens should be both a parental and state concern.  Incest, for example.  Sex with a young person who has no ability to consent.  This case seems like a state vendette against a young woman.  I have seen sexual abuse by teens of other teens and even younger children.  These cases are cause for intervention.  That intervention needs to be considered quite carefully, both to assure protection of and justice for the victim and the life consequences for the perpetrator.  

The following illustrates my reservations.  I started working with a 9 year old girl who told me her brother had tried to cut her head off with scissors.  I called Children Services&#039; Board and was promptly informed that they would not investigate sibling on sibling abuse.  I also informed the school who thankfully, took immediate action.  It turns out that the 13 year old brother had seen his father shot dead by the police not to long before this happened with his sister.  Do I think the boy should be brought to court as an offender?  Absolutely not.  Do I think his sister needed immediate protection?  Absolutely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see the underage prosecution/conviction/sentencing numbers broken down between similarly situated girls and boys.  There is a stong attitude of punishment in this society towards girls having sex.</p>
<p>There are cases when I think sex between teens should be both a parental and state concern.  Incest, for example.  Sex with a young person who has no ability to consent.  This case seems like a state vendette against a young woman.  I have seen sexual abuse by teens of other teens and even younger children.  These cases are cause for intervention.  That intervention needs to be considered quite carefully, both to assure protection of and justice for the victim and the life consequences for the perpetrator.  </p>
<p>The following illustrates my reservations.  I started working with a 9 year old girl who told me her brother had tried to cut her head off with scissors.  I called Children Services&#8217; Board and was promptly informed that they would not investigate sibling on sibling abuse.  I also informed the school who thankfully, took immediate action.  It turns out that the 13 year old brother had seen his father shot dead by the police not to long before this happened with his sister.  Do I think the boy should be brought to court as an offender?  Absolutely not.  Do I think his sister needed immediate protection?  Absolutely.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rafflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Dundar still has his white robe in the closet.  Just one more reason not to live in Georgia or Mississippi.  These draconian measures do not stop the activities they are trying to stop and they just cause this kind of damage to the kids who are stuck in this maze of legislative nonsense.  By the way Dundar, is it only women who have sex prior to marriage that you consider a prostitute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Dundar still has his white robe in the closet.  Just one more reason not to live in Georgia or Mississippi.  These draconian measures do not stop the activities they are trying to stop and they just cause this kind of damage to the kids who are stuck in this maze of legislative nonsense.  By the way Dundar, is it only women who have sex prior to marriage that you consider a prostitute?</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dundar:

No, that was done in 1880&#039;s through the 1950&#039;s. Georgia was second only to Mississippi in the total numbers. They used trees instead of firing squads and were &quot;generous&quot; enough to include male as well as  female African-Americans. Sometimes you could see the badges of the cops underneath those satiny white robes. They are much more subtle now against people they don&#039;t like. History is fun. You should try it sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dundar:</p>
<p>No, that was done in 1880&#8217;s through the 1950&#8217;s. Georgia was second only to Mississippi in the total numbers. They used trees instead of firing squads and were &#8220;generous&#8221; enough to include male as well as  female African-Americans. Sometimes you could see the badges of the cops underneath those satiny white robes. They are much more subtle now against people they don&#8217;t like. History is fun. You should try it sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: dundar</title>
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		<dc:creator>dundar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing Georgia citizens to Taliban is ridiculous.  

The good citizens of Georgia are not executing by firing squads women just accused of being prostitutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing Georgia citizens to Taliban is ridiculous.  </p>
<p>The good citizens of Georgia are not executing by firing squads women just accused of being prostitutes.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Taliban do by religious strictures, the good citizens of Georgia do by legislative enactment. Who says the Puritans are dead and gone? Not me. Tell the last sane person leaving out of that State to turn out the lights. Well Newt Gingrich will still be there, so forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Taliban do by religious strictures, the good citizens of Georgia do by legislative enactment. Who says the Puritans are dead and gone? Not me. Tell the last sane person leaving out of that State to turn out the lights. Well Newt Gingrich will still be there, so forget it.</p>
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