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	<title>Comments on: Ashcroft Defends Waterboarding &#8212; Congress Calmly Discusses the U.S. Torture Program</title>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17445</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Course...thats just a guess.

:D</description>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17444</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If she is in the medical field, I hope the AMA knows about her.... you know...that she&#039;s out.... walking around in public and stuff.

Here. Since we&#039;re handing out diagnosis and all, my diagnosis of Doctor Quinn, Medicine Woman.. ....purely from a lay point of view of course...is as follows.

I&#039;m guessing post prodromal schizophrenia which is evident from the  visible impaired cognative ability as well as the disorganized speech patterns (see her attempt at mathematics above) with perhaps an underlying dissociative identity disorder evident by the repeated contrasting statements, such as declaring the unprofessionalism of a supposed medical professional offering a public diagnosis of a person they just met and are arguing with on the Internet, after in the same comment, having offered said diagnosis.

:D

So....I&#039;m gonna go with a recommendation of 50mg Haloperidol decanoate to start...which should help with the delusions and cognative dissasociation, and if needed, electro-shock should she become violent from the anti-psychotic.


:D

That oughta unbunch ole Berlin Betty&#039;s panties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she is in the medical field, I hope the AMA knows about her&#8230;. you know&#8230;that she&#8217;s out&#8230;. walking around in public and stuff.</p>
<p>Here. Since we&#8217;re handing out diagnosis and all, my diagnosis of Doctor Quinn, Medicine Woman.. &#8230;.purely from a lay point of view of course&#8230;is as follows.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing post prodromal schizophrenia which is evident from the  visible impaired cognative ability as well as the disorganized speech patterns (see her attempt at mathematics above) with perhaps an underlying dissociative identity disorder evident by the repeated contrasting statements, such as declaring the unprofessionalism of a supposed medical professional offering a public diagnosis of a person they just met and are arguing with on the Internet, after in the same comment, having offered said diagnosis.</p>
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<p>So&#8230;.I&#8217;m gonna go with a recommendation of 50mg Haloperidol decanoate to start&#8230;which should help with the delusions and cognative dissasociation, and if needed, electro-shock should she become violent from the anti-psychotic.</p>
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<p>That oughta unbunch ole Berlin Betty&#8217;s panties.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17443</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty C 
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:36 am &lt;i&gt;
Mespo asked me before for a dx: 

I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling - bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase. 

Dunno. 

It’s not professional for me to say. &lt;/i&gt;


:&#124;

Whats ironic here is Doctor Strangelove doesn&#039;t seem to see her the problem with these comments.

First, she declares a &quot;dx&quot;, which I am assuming is medical for &quot;diagnosis&quot;. Then, she proceeds to provide said diagnosis.

&lt;i&gt;I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling - bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase&lt;/i&gt;

Yet, in the very next breath, proceeds to speak, and accurately so;

&lt;i&gt;It’s not professional for me to say.&lt;/I&gt;



So its not &quot;professional&quot; of her, yet she does it anyway?

:&#124;

Wouldn&#039;t that make you &quot;unprofessional&quot; for having &quot;said&quot; then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:36 am <i><br />
Mespo asked me before for a dx: </p>
<p>I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling &#8211; bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase. </p>
<p>Dunno. </p>
<p>It’s not professional for me to say. </i></p>
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<p>Whats ironic here is Doctor Strangelove doesn&#8217;t seem to see her the problem with these comments.</p>
<p>First, she declares a &#8220;dx&#8221;, which I am assuming is medical for &#8220;diagnosis&#8221;. Then, she proceeds to provide said diagnosis.</p>
<p><i>I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling &#8211; bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase</i></p>
<p>Yet, in the very next breath, proceeds to speak, and accurately so;</p>
<p><i>It’s not professional for me to say.</i></p>
<p>So its not &#8220;professional&#8221; of her, yet she does it anyway?</p>
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<p>Wouldn&#8217;t that make you &#8220;unprofessional&#8221; for having &#8220;said&#8221; then?</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17442</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you should write a book about your experiences in your illustrious medical career.

:&#124;

You can call it &quot;Bedpans and Broomsticks&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should write a book about your experiences in your illustrious medical career.</p>
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<p>You can call it &#8220;Bedpans and Broomsticks&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17441</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, this has been a first for me.

I&#039;ve seen some ignorant, and pompous bloggers before, even manage to be ignorant and pompous myself from time to time. But I&#039;ve never encountered a blogger before, who launches attack after attack, completely unprovoked in every instance, and then, as if to summarily declare victory, pronounces that they work in the medical field, so therefore have won some elusive victory.

I wonder what Doctor Kevorkian here would do, if someone followed her from thread to thread, and in each thread lashed out with demeaning and ignorant insults and demands, without her ever speaking to them first?

I bet she&#039;d scream like a stuck pig.

:&#124;

Which is a readily available image, to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, this has been a first for me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some ignorant, and pompous bloggers before, even manage to be ignorant and pompous myself from time to time. But I&#8217;ve never encountered a blogger before, who launches attack after attack, completely unprovoked in every instance, and then, as if to summarily declare victory, pronounces that they work in the medical field, so therefore have won some elusive victory.</p>
<p>I wonder what Doctor Kevorkian here would do, if someone followed her from thread to thread, and in each thread lashed out with demeaning and ignorant insults and demands, without her ever speaking to them first?</p>
<p>I bet she&#8217;d scream like a stuck pig.</p>
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<p>Which is a readily available image, to be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17440</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty C 
1, July 19, 2008 at 1:53 am 
&lt;i&gt;

It’s not professional for me to say. He is not my patient.

Thank goodness!
&lt;/i&gt;


Yea...uh....thank goodness.

Considering as a self annointed &quot;medical professional&quot; you spend your free time insulting people who said nothing to you first, then declare &lt;i&gt;THEM&lt;/i&gt; the insane one.

:&#124;


Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 19, 2008 at 1:53 am<br />
<i></p>
<p>It’s not professional for me to say. He is not my patient.</p>
<p>Thank goodness!<br />
</i></p>
<p>Yea&#8230;uh&#8230;.thank goodness.</p>
<p>Considering as a self annointed &#8220;medical professional&#8221; you spend your free time insulting people who said nothing to you first, then declare <i>THEM</i> the insane one.</p>
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<p>Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17439</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty C 
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am &lt;i&gt;
Have you ever heard of Harvard - Medical School?

As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!


&lt;/i&gt;
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Patty C
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm
&lt;i&gt;
Have you ever heard of Harvard - Medical School?
&lt;/i&gt;



----

Patty C 
1, July 11, 2008 at 1:33 am 
&lt;i&gt;Patty C 

I and my team work with medical professionals, saving lives, all day -can you say the same?

&lt;/i&gt;


:&#124;

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Patty C 
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm 
&lt;i&gt;

One of the things you, as a newbie, wouldn’t know about me, as a ‘player’ on the blog, is that my ancestors came here on the Mayflower and fought in the Revolutionary War. 

&lt;/i&gt;
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Patty C 
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm &lt;i&gt;

One was the first Governor of ‘Massachusetts’ ie one of the original 13 colonies…

&lt;/i&gt;


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....and I suppose you crap dandylions out of your ass, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am <i><br />
Have you ever heard of Harvard &#8211; Medical School?</p>
<p>As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!</p>
<p></i><br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm<br />
<i><br />
Have you ever heard of Harvard &#8211; Medical School?<br />
</i></p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 11, 2008 at 1:33 am<br />
<i>Patty C </p>
<p>I and my team work with medical professionals, saving lives, all day -can you say the same?</p>
<p></i></p>
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<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm<br />
<i></p>
<p>One of the things you, as a newbie, wouldn’t know about me, as a ‘player’ on the blog, is that my ancestors came here on the Mayflower and fought in the Revolutionary War. </p>
<p></i><br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm <i></p>
<p>One was the first Governor of ‘Massachusetts’ ie one of the original 13 colonies…</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8230;.and I suppose you crap dandylions out of your ass, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17438</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mespo asked me before for a dx:

I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling - bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase.

Dunno.

It’s not professional for me to say. He is not my patient.

Thank goodness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mespo asked me before for a dx:</p>
<p>I’d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling &#8211; bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase.</p>
<p>Dunno.</p>
<p>It’s not professional for me to say. He is not my patient.</p>
<p>Thank goodness!</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17437</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:&#124;

Do the guys at Harvard know you&#039;re out?</description>
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<p>Do the guys at Harvard know you&#8217;re out?</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17436</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty C 
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am 
&lt;i&gt;Have you ever heard of Harvard - Medical School?

As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!

Thanks for playing…! &lt;/i&gt;
---

So in your mind, because of where you work, you have the right to follow a blogger around insulting him without provocation, then, declare your place of employment, and declare sum sort of victory?

:D

Just admit it. 

You&#039;re a test subject....right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am<br />
<i>Have you ever heard of Harvard &#8211; Medical School?</p>
<p>As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!</p>
<p>Thanks for playing…! </i><br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>So in your mind, because of where you work, you have the right to follow a blogger around insulting him without provocation, then, declare your place of employment, and declare sum sort of victory?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just admit it. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re a test subject&#8230;.right?</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17435</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty C 
1, July 19, 2008 at 1:30 am &lt;i&gt;
I am GREAT terms with Harvard - thanks!
&lt;/i&gt;

Terms?

:&#124;

You mean like a restraining order?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 19, 2008 at 1:30 am <i><br />
I am GREAT terms with Harvard &#8211; thanks!<br />
</i></p>
<p>Terms?</p>
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<p>You mean like a restraining order?</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17434</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am GREAT terms with Harvard - thanks! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am GREAT terms with Harvard &#8211; thanks! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17432</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and you never did answer the question I asked last week when you were declaring your class superiority because your ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War.

:D

You still haven&#039;t said on which side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and you never did answer the question I asked last week when you were declaring your class superiority because your ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War.</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You still haven&#8217;t said on which side.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17429</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way Dolly Madison, I&#039;d take it easy on declaring you&#039;re an employee of anywhere, Harvard Medical School included, in a public blog. Particularly when you&#039;re using it to dress down another blogger by proclaiming your supposed superiority because you think you have a better job.

Not that I could care, but theres more and more stories on the internet of people being fired from their jobs, for proclaiming it in a public blog. Different organizations are different, so maybe Harvard doesn&#039;t mind. I don&#039;t know. But I wouldn&#039;t bet on it.

Not if I liked my job.


:&#124;


Just FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way Dolly Madison, I&#8217;d take it easy on declaring you&#8217;re an employee of anywhere, Harvard Medical School included, in a public blog. Particularly when you&#8217;re using it to dress down another blogger by proclaiming your supposed superiority because you think you have a better job.</p>
<p>Not that I could care, but theres more and more stories on the internet of people being fired from their jobs, for proclaiming it in a public blog. Different organizations are different, so maybe Harvard doesn&#8217;t mind. I don&#8217;t know. But I wouldn&#8217;t bet on it.</p>
<p>Not if I liked my job.</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17427</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty C 
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am &lt;i&gt;
Have you ever heard of Harvard - Medical School?

As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!


&lt;/i&gt;
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Patty C
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm
&lt;i&gt;
Have you ever heard of Harvard - Medical School?
&lt;/i&gt;



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Patty C 
1, July 11, 2008 at 1:33 am 
&lt;i&gt;Patty C 

I and my team work with medical professionals, saving lives, all day -can you say the same?

&lt;/i&gt;


:&#124;

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Patty C 
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm 
&lt;i&gt;

One of the things you, as a newbie, wouldn’t know about me, as a ‘player’ on the blog, is that my ancestors came here on the Mayflower and fought in the Revolutionary War. 

&lt;/i&gt;
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Patty C 
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm &lt;i&gt;

One was the first Governor of ‘Massachusetts’ ie one of the original 13 colonies…

&lt;/i&gt;


---

:&#124;

I&#039;m sensing a pattern here doc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 19, 2008 at 12:16 am <i><br />
Have you ever heard of Harvard &#8211; Medical School?</p>
<p>As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!</p>
<p></i><br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm<br />
<i><br />
Have you ever heard of Harvard &#8211; Medical School?<br />
</i></p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 11, 2008 at 1:33 am<br />
<i>Patty C </p>
<p>I and my team work with medical professionals, saving lives, all day -can you say the same?</p>
<p></i></p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm<br />
<i></p>
<p>One of the things you, as a newbie, wouldn’t know about me, as a ‘player’ on the blog, is that my ancestors came here on the Mayflower and fought in the Revolutionary War. </p>
<p></i><br />
&#8212;-</p>
<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 12, 2008 at 6:38 pm <i></p>
<p>One was the first Governor of ‘Massachusetts’ ie one of the original 13 colonies…</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sensing a pattern here doc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17425</link>
		<dc:creator>rafflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wholiebacon,
You are right when you say that when a government tortures an alleged terrorist, they become the terrorists.  There is no good legal, moral, logical or military reason to torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wholiebacon,<br />
You are right when you say that when a government tortures an alleged terrorist, they become the terrorists.  There is no good legal, moral, logical or military reason to torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17422</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mespo asked me before for a dx: 

I&#039;d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling - bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase. 

Dunno. 

It&#039;s not professional for me to say. But he is not my patient.

Thank goodness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mespo asked me before for a dx: </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say Bartlebee is your garden-variety alcoholic EXCEPT that, without a consultation, based on his conversations here, he could also be cycling &#8211; bi-polar, off his meds, drinking/drugging and in his manic phase. </p>
<p>Dunno. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not professional for me to say. But he is not my patient.</p>
<p>Thank goodness!</p>
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		<title>By: bartlebee</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17419</link>
		<dc:creator>bartlebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty C 
1, July 18, 2008 at 11:45 pm 

&lt;i&gt; my dead ancestors who came here as settlers
and were among those at the first Thanksgiving table&lt;/i&gt;


:&#124;

Was that before or after they were dead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 11:45 pm </p>
<p><i> my dead ancestors who came here as settlers<br />
and were among those at the first Thanksgiving table</i></p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Was that before or after they were dead?</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17418</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17418</guid>
		<description>Have you ever heard of Harvard - Medical School?

As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!

Thanks for playing...! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever heard of Harvard &#8211; Medical School?</p>
<p>As an employee of HMS, myself, I know them VERY well!</p>
<p>Thanks for playing&#8230;! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bartlebee</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17417</link>
		<dc:creator>bartlebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:&#124;

I always wondered what it would feel like to be &quot;steerage&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I always wondered what it would feel like to be &#8220;steerage&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: bartlebee</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17416</link>
		<dc:creator>bartlebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17416</guid>
		<description>Patty Said...&lt;i&gt;

I never said I was superior. I don’t need to
&lt;/I&gt;

:&#124;

but then Patty said...
&lt;i&gt;
My ancestors were superior&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty Said&#8230;<i></p>
<p>I never said I was superior. I don’t need to<br />
</i></p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>but then Patty said&#8230;<br />
<i><br />
My ancestors were superior</i></p>
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		<title>By: whooliebacon</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17415</link>
		<dc:creator>whooliebacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17415</guid>
		<description>The irony is that terrorism (&quot;the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.&quot;)is defined almost precisely as counter-terrorism when, if fact, torture as a means of coercion defines itself as terrorism.  

In torturing terrorists, doesn&#039;t this administration then become terrorists?

Torture is torture.  It is premeditated. Once done, cannot be undone.  It is a heinous, depraved, craven act overshadowed only by continuation of an illegal war..for profit.  

This is simply not an administration that can be trusted to honestly weigh the moral question of inflicting torture on another human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony is that terrorism (&#8220;the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.&#8221;)is defined almost precisely as counter-terrorism when, if fact, torture as a means of coercion defines itself as terrorism.  </p>
<p>In torturing terrorists, doesn&#8217;t this administration then become terrorists?</p>
<p>Torture is torture.  It is premeditated. Once done, cannot be undone.  It is a heinous, depraved, craven act overshadowed only by continuation of an illegal war..for profit.  </p>
<p>This is simply not an administration that can be trusted to honestly weigh the moral question of inflicting torture on another human being.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17414</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17414</guid>
		<description>I never said I was superior. I don&#039;t need to.

My ancestors were superior because of who THEY were and I will not tolerate your insults of my dead ancestors who came here as settlers
and were among those at the first Thanksgiving table.

You can go to Hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said I was superior. I don&#8217;t need to.</p>
<p>My ancestors were superior because of who THEY were and I will not tolerate your insults of my dead ancestors who came here as settlers<br />
and were among those at the first Thanksgiving table.</p>
<p>You can go to Hell.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17409</link>
		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bartlebee:

&quot;How about that?&quot;
********************

I think that I shall never see....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bartlebee:</p>
<p>&#8220;How about that?&#8221;<br />
********************</p>
<p>I think that I shall never see&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bartlebee</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17406</link>
		<dc:creator>bartlebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty C 
1, July 18, 2008 at 11:12 pm 
&lt;i&gt;I want you to leave…
&lt;/i&gt;

We know.

You said that the first night I came in the blog, when you attacked me right out of the blue, when I had never spoken word one to you.


So I guess you&#039;re just gonna have to &quot;suck it up&quot;... ay?

Because this is a public blog. And I don&#039;t see any rules posted anywhere putting you in charge of other peoples rights to comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 11:12 pm<br />
<i>I want you to leave…<br />
</i></p>
<p>We know.</p>
<p>You said that the first night I came in the blog, when you attacked me right out of the blue, when I had never spoken word one to you.</p>
<p>So I guess you&#8217;re just gonna have to &#8220;suck it up&#8221;&#8230; ay?</p>
<p>Because this is a public blog. And I don&#8217;t see any rules posted anywhere putting you in charge of other peoples rights to comment.</p>
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		<title>By: bartlebee</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17405</link>
		<dc:creator>bartlebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Patty. 

YOU &quot;get a clue&quot;.

You&#039;re the one who starts it each and everytime.

You come in, run your big fat mouth, and then cry when someone dares stand up to you.

You bring up your ancestry, like a little child trying to prove she&#039;s better than the new kid in class, and boast of your profession, your intelligence, and now apparently your scholastic achievements, and then cry foul when someone makes a little sport with them.

After all, do you have any idea how pompous you sound, declaring&lt;i&gt; &quot;my ancestors came over on the Mayflower&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.... or&lt;i&gt; &quot;I save lives all day&quot;&lt;/i&gt; ?

Do you understand those things had nothing to do with anything? 

Your profession does not make you superior to anyone.

Your ancestors coming over on the Mayflower do not make you superior to anyone.

Your schooling, does not make you superior to anyone....or apparently smarter.

And attacking another blogger, each and everytime you see them, insulting them FIRST, out of the blue, then crying foul when they make a little sport of your pompous blowhard hypocrisy, makes you pretty much a kook. 

So once more, I suggest you crawl back into whatever mental ward you crawled out of, tell the doctors to up the dosage, and chill.

Because you don&#039;t get to tell me what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Patty. </p>
<p>YOU &#8220;get a clue&#8221;.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who starts it each and everytime.</p>
<p>You come in, run your big fat mouth, and then cry when someone dares stand up to you.</p>
<p>You bring up your ancestry, like a little child trying to prove she&#8217;s better than the new kid in class, and boast of your profession, your intelligence, and now apparently your scholastic achievements, and then cry foul when someone makes a little sport with them.</p>
<p>After all, do you have any idea how pompous you sound, declaring<i> &#8220;my ancestors came over on the Mayflower&#8221;</i>&#8230;. or<i> &#8220;I save lives all day&#8221;</i> ?</p>
<p>Do you understand those things had nothing to do with anything? </p>
<p>Your profession does not make you superior to anyone.</p>
<p>Your ancestors coming over on the Mayflower do not make you superior to anyone.</p>
<p>Your schooling, does not make you superior to anyone&#8230;.or apparently smarter.</p>
<p>And attacking another blogger, each and everytime you see them, insulting them FIRST, out of the blue, then crying foul when they make a little sport of your pompous blowhard hypocrisy, makes you pretty much a kook. </p>
<p>So once more, I suggest you crawl back into whatever mental ward you crawled out of, tell the doctors to up the dosage, and chill.</p>
<p>Because you don&#8217;t get to tell me what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17402</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17402</guid>
		<description>Bartlebee - get a clue!

You have insulted me, my noble, dead, Mayflower Society, DAR, SAR - worthy ancestors, in every conceivable way.

You can have nothing more to say - as far as I am concerned!

I want you to leave...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bartlebee &#8211; get a clue!</p>
<p>You have insulted me, my noble, dead, Mayflower Society, DAR, SAR &#8211; worthy ancestors, in every conceivable way.</p>
<p>You can have nothing more to say &#8211; as far as I am concerned!</p>
<p>I want you to leave&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17400</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mespo727272 
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:44 pm 
&lt;i&gt; How about less volume, less histrionics and, most assuredly, less smiley faces?.

&lt;/i&gt;

13 comments, out of 95 is not &quot;volume&quot; Einstein.

Its reasonable posting. And none of your business last time I checked.

In fact, you&#039;re probably the one on this blog with the most comments of anyone I&#039;ve seen.

So I got a better idea.

How about less blind side unprovoked attacks from you and your trained seal friend there, Patty? How about that?

How about you keep your insulting comments to yourself when no ones talking to you? How about that?

How about you, and your blog bully compadre both leave me, and my comments alone if you don&#039;t like them. Because last time I checked, this was a public blog and you&#039;re not the &quot;decider&quot;.

How about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mespo727272<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:44 pm<br />
<i> How about less volume, less histrionics and, most assuredly, less smiley faces?.</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>13 comments, out of 95 is not &#8220;volume&#8221; Einstein.</p>
<p>Its reasonable posting. And none of your business last time I checked.</p>
<p>In fact, you&#8217;re probably the one on this blog with the most comments of anyone I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>So I got a better idea.</p>
<p>How about less blind side unprovoked attacks from you and your trained seal friend there, Patty? How about that?</p>
<p>How about you keep your insulting comments to yourself when no ones talking to you? How about that?</p>
<p>How about you, and your blog bully compadre both leave me, and my comments alone if you don&#8217;t like them. Because last time I checked, this was a public blog and you&#8217;re not the &#8220;decider&#8221;.</p>
<p>How about that?</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17399</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17399</guid>
		<description>I said it once to you two punks, and I&#039;ll say it again.

You don&#039;t like me, you don&#039;t have to read my posts or talk to me.

But each time, and I do mean EACH time, you two assclowns, come looking for trouble, you&#039;re going to get back exactly what you put out.

Don&#039;t like looking for it dickheads?


Then don&#039;t come looking for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said it once to you two punks, and I&#8217;ll say it again.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t like me, you don&#8217;t have to read my posts or talk to me.</p>
<p>But each time, and I do mean EACH time, you two assclowns, come looking for trouble, you&#8217;re going to get back exactly what you put out.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t like looking for it dickheads?</p>
<p>Then don&#8217;t come looking for it.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17398</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17398</guid>
		<description>mespo727272 
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:44 pm 

&lt;i&gt;
Bartlebee:

I will only say that in your short tenure on the blog you have managed to completely alienate most of us who are “regulars.”&lt;/i&gt;


And here we have the messpot, stumbling in behind to shore up the blog nanny&#039;s blindside attack.

Notice, that Bartlebee was having a general conversation, on topic, and completely polite, merely responding to responses from other bloggers, most of whom were agreeing with him.

Then, in comes the &quot;regulars&quot;.... like two turds in a porcelin tank, just attacking completely unprovoked, with no cause or justification.

Just Patty C (wonder what that stands for) and her mascot, the messpot, waltzing in and attacking.

Two studid goons, trying to set themselves up like the blog bosses.

Well, fortunately, they&#039;re not the &quot;deciders&quot;, and since Bartlebee did nothing to be attacked, Messpot, like his idiot friend, can both pucker up, and kiss Bartlebee&#039;s rosy red ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mespo727272<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:44 pm </p>
<p><i><br />
Bartlebee:</p>
<p>I will only say that in your short tenure on the blog you have managed to completely alienate most of us who are “regulars.”</i></p>
<p>And here we have the messpot, stumbling in behind to shore up the blog nanny&#8217;s blindside attack.</p>
<p>Notice, that Bartlebee was having a general conversation, on topic, and completely polite, merely responding to responses from other bloggers, most of whom were agreeing with him.</p>
<p>Then, in comes the &#8220;regulars&#8221;&#8230;. like two turds in a porcelin tank, just attacking completely unprovoked, with no cause or justification.</p>
<p>Just Patty C (wonder what that stands for) and her mascot, the messpot, waltzing in and attacking.</p>
<p>Two studid goons, trying to set themselves up like the blog bosses.</p>
<p>Well, fortunately, they&#8217;re not the &#8220;deciders&#8221;, and since Bartlebee did nothing to be attacked, Messpot, like his idiot friend, can both pucker up, and kiss Bartlebee&#8217;s rosy red ass.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17396</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17396</guid>
		<description>Patty C 
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm 
&lt;i&gt;
Fuck off 
&lt;/i&gt;


Thank you Eva Nightingale.

:&#124;

However since you don&#039;t decide who posts here, and who doesn&#039;t, and since you once more just stumbled in and attacked me without any provocation, how bout you take your own advice?

:D

How bout that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm<br />
<i><br />
Fuck off<br />
</i></p>
<p>Thank you Eva Nightingale.</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>However since you don&#8217;t decide who posts here, and who doesn&#8217;t, and since you once more just stumbled in and attacked me without any provocation, how bout you take your own advice?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>How bout that?</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17395</link>
		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17395</guid>
		<description>Bartlebee:

I will only say that in your short tenure on the blog you have managed to completely alienate most of us who are &quot;regulars.&quot; That may be an achievement you strive for, but to most of us it is sort of pathetic, especially given that we agree with much of what you say. How about less volume, less histrionics and, most assuredly, less smiley faces?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bartlebee:</p>
<p>I will only say that in your short tenure on the blog you have managed to completely alienate most of us who are &#8220;regulars.&#8221; That may be an achievement you strive for, but to most of us it is sort of pathetic, especially given that we agree with much of what you say. How about less volume, less histrionics and, most assuredly, less smiley faces?.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17394</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17394</guid>
		<description>Patty C
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm

&lt;i&gt;Have you ever heard of Harvard - Medical School?&lt;/i&gt;


Yes.

I have.

Why, are you the subject of a study they are doing?

:&#124;

Hopefully it involves some sort of antipsychotic medication of some sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm</p>
<p><i>Have you ever heard of Harvard &#8211; Medical School?</i></p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>I have.</p>
<p>Why, are you the subject of a study they are doing?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hopefully it involves some sort of antipsychotic medication of some sort.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17393</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17393</guid>
		<description>Patty C 
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm 
&lt;i&gt;
I was completely accurate as to the time frame - having checked in later&lt;/i&gt;

You weren&#039;t even accurate about math sparky.

As for the &quot;time frame&quot;... well, as I said I wasn&#039;t aware someone elected you &quot;blog post comment decider&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 10:00 pm<br />
<i><br />
I was completely accurate as to the time frame &#8211; having checked in later</i></p>
<p>You weren&#8217;t even accurate about math sparky.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;time frame&#8221;&#8230; well, as I said I wasn&#8217;t aware someone elected you &#8220;blog post comment decider&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17391</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17391</guid>
		<description>Fuck off - I was completely accurate as to the time frame - having checked in later. 

Nothing has changed.

Not only had you taken a malodorous dump on our doorstep - you sprayed your verbal diarrhea all over our porch...

Have you ever heard of Harvard - Medical School?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck off &#8211; I was completely accurate as to the time frame &#8211; having checked in later. </p>
<p>Nothing has changed.</p>
<p>Not only had you taken a malodorous dump on our doorstep &#8211; you sprayed your verbal diarrhea all over our porch&#8230;</p>
<p>Have you ever heard of Harvard &#8211; Medical School?</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17389</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17389</guid>
		<description>Patty C 
1, July 18, 2008 at 6:17 pm 
&lt;i&gt;
I see all that is available for posts is 8 out of a possible 15 comments belonging to him - with 6 out those 8 being on the same article…

I don’t have time
&lt;/i&gt;

But if you&#039;d like, perhaps you could explain to me sometime,your particular version of homeschooled math.

See, there were 95 comments at the time you posted this little integer implosion.

And only 13 of them.....were mine.


13 comments, out of 95.

:&#124;

So not only was that not overposting, but it doesn&#039;t seem to have anything to do with the...er....figures you produced.

Perhaps your folks taught you something other than Base 10 mathematics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 6:17 pm<br />
<i><br />
I see all that is available for posts is 8 out of a possible 15 comments belonging to him &#8211; with 6 out those 8 being on the same article…</p>
<p>I don’t have time<br />
</i></p>
<p>But if you&#8217;d like, perhaps you could explain to me sometime,your particular version of homeschooled math.</p>
<p>See, there were 95 comments at the time you posted this little integer implosion.</p>
<p>And only 13 of them&#8230;..were mine.</p>
<p>13 comments, out of 95.</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So not only was that not overposting, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to have anything to do with the&#8230;er&#8230;.figures you produced.</p>
<p>Perhaps your folks taught you something other than Base 10 mathematics?</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17388</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17388</guid>
		<description>Patty C
1, July 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm
&lt;i&gt;
It&#039;s rude.
&lt;/i&gt;

No Patty. 

You&#039;re rude.

In fact, you&#039;re one of the most rude, ignorant and illiterate of bloggers I&#039;ve ever had the misfortune to encounter in a blog.

You&#039;re rude and ignorant, each time you attack me out of the blue, acting like some sort of blog-nanny, and decided what new bloggers can say, and comment on.

You&#039;re rude and ignorant each time you attack me, and act like you have some sort of moral higher ground, when in fact, you&#039;re just an ignorant spoiled blog bully who tries ordering around anyone who dares come into &quot;your&quot; blog.

And each and every time you and your ignorant attitude decide to attack me out of the blue, you&#039;ll get back, exactly what you put out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm<br />
<i><br />
It&#8217;s rude.<br />
</i></p>
<p>No Patty. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re rude.</p>
<p>In fact, you&#8217;re one of the most rude, ignorant and illiterate of bloggers I&#8217;ve ever had the misfortune to encounter in a blog.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re rude and ignorant, each time you attack me out of the blue, acting like some sort of blog-nanny, and decided what new bloggers can say, and comment on.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re rude and ignorant each time you attack me, and act like you have some sort of moral higher ground, when in fact, you&#8217;re just an ignorant spoiled blog bully who tries ordering around anyone who dares come into &#8220;your&#8221; blog.</p>
<p>And each and every time you and your ignorant attitude decide to attack me out of the blue, you&#8217;ll get back, exactly what you put out.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17387</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17387</guid>
		<description>Patty C
1, July 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm

&lt;i&gt;One could follow it, especially if you’re a regular, ie who was responding and
to what. 

We can’t do that with your machine-gun approach to the same article.
&lt;/i&gt;



Really?

Too fast for you ay?

:&#124;

I thought you had to be smart to go to law school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm</p>
<p><i>One could follow it, especially if you’re a regular, ie who was responding and<br />
to what. </p>
<p>We can’t do that with your machine-gun approach to the same article.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>Too fast for you ay?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I thought you had to be smart to go to law school.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17386</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17386</guid>
		<description>Patty C 
1, July 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm 
&lt;i&gt;

 ‘we’, managed to conduct a fairly polite and orderly exchange.
&lt;/i&gt;


So coming into a thread, and completely unprovoked, attacking another blogger like a rabid weasel, insulting him without end whenever you see him, without any provocation whatsoever while demanding that he not be able to comment with the other commenters, &quot;fairly polite&quot;?

:&#124;

If thats what you call polite and orderly, I&#039;d hate you see you when you&#039;re being rude and ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm<br />
<i></p>
<p> ‘we’, managed to conduct a fairly polite and orderly exchange.<br />
</i></p>
<p>So coming into a thread, and completely unprovoked, attacking another blogger like a rabid weasel, insulting him without end whenever you see him, without any provocation whatsoever while demanding that he not be able to comment with the other commenters, &#8220;fairly polite&#8221;?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If thats what you call polite and orderly, I&#8217;d hate you see you when you&#8217;re being rude and ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17385</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17385</guid>
		<description>Patty C 
1, July 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm &lt;i&gt;
Get your own blog - for people who are really interested in
‘All Bartlebee All The Time’
&lt;/i&gt;

So 13 out of 95 posts, is what equals &quot;Bartlebee All The Time&quot;?

:&#124;

Well...don&#039;t worry. Its not your fault.

I&#039;ve always said homeschooling failures are the shortcomings of the parent, and not the child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C<br />
1, July 18, 2008 at 7:50 pm <i><br />
Get your own blog &#8211; for people who are really interested in<br />
‘All Bartlebee All The Time’<br />
</i></p>
<p>So 13 out of 95 posts, is what equals &#8220;Bartlebee All The Time&#8221;?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well&#8230;don&#8217;t worry. Its not your fault.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always said homeschooling failures are the shortcomings of the parent, and not the child.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17383</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17383</guid>
		<description>Get your own blog - for people who are really interested in 
&#039;All Bartlebee All The Time&#039;.

Last time I checked, this was still jonathanturley.org and &#039;we&#039;,  managed to conduct a fairly polite and orderly exchange.  One could follow it, especially if you&#039;re a regular, ie who was responding and 
to what.  

We can&#039;t do that with your machine-gun approach to the same article. 

It&#039;s rude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get your own blog &#8211; for people who are really interested in<br />
&#8216;All Bartlebee All The Time&#8217;.</p>
<p>Last time I checked, this was still jonathanturley.org and &#8216;we&#8217;,  managed to conduct a fairly polite and orderly exchange.  One could follow it, especially if you&#8217;re a regular, ie who was responding and<br />
to what.  </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t do that with your machine-gun approach to the same article. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s rude.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17380</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17380</guid>
		<description>Oh and by the way, you might want to pick up a new calculator while you&#039;re out. The one you have seems to be broken. 

Prior to your unprovoked insult to me, this thread had a total of &lt;b&gt;95&lt;/b&gt; comments, out of which only 13 comments were Bartlebees.

So something&#039;s clearly up with your calculator.

:&#124;

Or your ability to interpret the data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way, you might want to pick up a new calculator while you&#8217;re out. The one you have seems to be broken. </p>
<p>Prior to your unprovoked insult to me, this thread had a total of <b>95</b> comments, out of which only 13 comments were Bartlebees.</p>
<p>So something&#8217;s clearly up with your calculator.</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Or your ability to interpret the data.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17378</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17378</guid>
		<description>Well gee Patty, thanks for bypassing the actual discussion to launch another unwarranted and ignorant attack on me.

And I wasn&#039;t aware that this blog suffered from such an overwhelming surplus of comments, or that I was keeping you from doing something.... but by all means, if you don&#039;t &quot;have time&quot;, then don&#039;t let me keep you.

Feel free to not let the door hit you on the way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well gee Patty, thanks for bypassing the actual discussion to launch another unwarranted and ignorant attack on me.</p>
<p>And I wasn&#8217;t aware that this blog suffered from such an overwhelming surplus of comments, or that I was keeping you from doing something&#8230;. but by all means, if you don&#8217;t &#8220;have time&#8221;, then don&#8217;t let me keep you.</p>
<p>Feel free to not let the door hit you on the way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17377</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17377</guid>
		<description>I believe I know what torture is - being &quot;BartleBoarded&quot; every time 
I see all that is available for posts is 8 out of a possible 15 comments belonging to him - with 6 out those 8 being on the same article...

I don&#039;t have time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I know what torture is &#8211; being &#8220;BartleBoarded&#8221; every time<br />
I see all that is available for posts is 8 out of a possible 15 comments belonging to him &#8211; with 6 out those 8 being on the same article&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have time.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17374</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17374</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;You may have read by now the official lie about this treatment, which is that it “simulates” the feeling of drowning. This is not the case. 

You feel that you are drowning because you are drowning—or, rather, being drowned, &lt;/i&gt;

Christopher Hitchens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You may have read by now the official lie about this treatment, which is that it “simulates” the feeling of drowning. This is not the case. </p>
<p>You feel that you are drowning because you are drowning—or, rather, being drowned, </i></p>
<p>Christopher Hitchens</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17367</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17367</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;“Water boarding” is a potentially dangerous activity in which the participant can receive serious and permanent (physical, emotional and psychological) injuries and even death, including injuries and death due to the respiratory and neurological systems of the body.&lt;/b&gt;

Taken from the Waiver the Military requires anyone voluntarily allowing themselves to be waterboarded to sign, first.

Perhaps since Congress is still debating over whether or not it constitutes torture, someone could show them THIS?

:&#124;

It does pretty much remove all questions, both moral, and legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>“Water boarding” is a potentially dangerous activity in which the participant can receive serious and permanent (physical, emotional and psychological) injuries and even death, including injuries and death due to the respiratory and neurological systems of the body.</b></p>
<p>Taken from the Waiver the Military requires anyone voluntarily allowing themselves to be waterboarded to sign, first.</p>
<p>Perhaps since Congress is still debating over whether or not it constitutes torture, someone could show them THIS?</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It does pretty much remove all questions, both moral, and legal.</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17345</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2482#comment-17345</guid>
		<description>Sorry.

:&#124;

I know Obama would like us to forget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry.</p>
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<p>I know Obama would like us to forget.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17308</link>
		<dc:creator>rafflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bartlebee,
Don&#039;t remind me of HR 6034!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bartlebee,<br />
Don&#8217;t remind me of HR 6034!</p>
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		<title>By: BARTLEBEE</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17305</link>
		<dc:creator>BARTLEBEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Course, now its all legal-like.

Thanks to HR 6034, Barack Obama, and a congress who couldn&#039;t be bothered to worry about our 4th Amendment protections.

The ones we used to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Course, now its all legal-like.</p>
<p>Thanks to HR 6034, Barack Obama, and a congress who couldn&#8217;t be bothered to worry about our 4th Amendment protections.</p>
<p>The ones we used to have.</p>
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		<title>By: bartlebee</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/17/ashcroft-defends-waterboarding-congress-calmly-discusses-the-us-torture-program/#comment-17304</link>
		<dc:creator>bartlebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other key, is in the digitized voice. The program was completed during the Clinton admin, but was &quot;not in place&quot; until Bush took over. Thats because the telecoms were updating to digitial switching technology from the old analog switches. Analog switches would require actually recording the calls, and would not be searchable (mined).

Digital switches however mean the voice data can simply be switched off in binary form, and searched like any other computer data, assuming you had the proper software and equipment, as well as physical access to the switching hubs.

Its all there in public. We just need people to start putting the pieces together. Assuming people can get their heads around the magnitude of the program, and what it means about their personal communications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other key, is in the digitized voice. The program was completed during the Clinton admin, but was &#8220;not in place&#8221; until Bush took over. Thats because the telecoms were updating to digitial switching technology from the old analog switches. Analog switches would require actually recording the calls, and would not be searchable (mined).</p>
<p>Digital switches however mean the voice data can simply be switched off in binary form, and searched like any other computer data, assuming you had the proper software and equipment, as well as physical access to the switching hubs.</p>
<p>Its all there in public. We just need people to start putting the pieces together. Assuming people can get their heads around the magnitude of the program, and what it means about their personal communications.</p>
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