Comments on: Sunbathing with the Corpses: Outcry As Italian Sunbathers Ignore To Dead Girls on Naples Beach http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/22/sun-bathing-with-the-corpses-outcry-as-italian-sunbathers-ignore-to-dead-girls-on-naples-beach/ Res ipsa loquitur ("The thing itself speaks") Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:05:03 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: rafflaw http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/22/sun-bathing-with-the-corpses-outcry-as-italian-sunbathers-ignore-to-dead-girls-on-naples-beach/#comment-17822 rafflaw Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:19:53 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2631#comment-17822 At least remove them from the public area, in this case a beach. It is disrespectful to leave them laying out there in full view of the bystanders. At least remove them from the public area, in this case a beach. It is disrespectful to leave them laying out there in full view of the bystanders.

]]> By: Seth http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/22/sun-bathing-with-the-corpses-outcry-as-italian-sunbathers-ignore-to-dead-girls-on-naples-beach/#comment-17807 Seth Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:28:50 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2631#comment-17807 As a rhetorical question, how far away is "far enough"? Clearly we would not be shocked by people continuing as usual several kilometers away. They would be unlikely to know anything is amiss. What about 500m away? 100m? 10? How long should behavior be affected? During the time when they're struggling to survive, certainly. When they're brought ashore. But an hour later? And to what extent? E.g., dancing would be disrespectful, but sitting quietly? Perhaps deep in discussion on the briefness of life? I don't have any answers. But the photos made it clear that people weren't literally arms-length from the bodies while others were struggling to revive them. I think they should have moved down the beach, but that brings us back to the original question. What do you do after all that can be done (for the deceased) has been done? As a rhetorical question, how far away is “far enough”? Clearly we would not be shocked by people continuing as usual several kilometers away. They would be unlikely to know anything is amiss. What about 500m away? 100m? 10?

How long should behavior be affected? During the time when they’re struggling to survive, certainly. When they’re brought ashore. But an hour later? And to what extent? E.g., dancing would be disrespectful, but sitting quietly? Perhaps deep in discussion on the briefness of life?

I don’t have any answers. But the photos made it clear that people weren’t literally arms-length from the bodies while others were struggling to revive them. I think they should have moved down the beach, but that brings us back to the original question. What do you do after all that can be done (for the deceased) has been done?

]]> By: rafflaw http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/22/sun-bathing-with-the-corpses-outcry-as-italian-sunbathers-ignore-to-dead-girls-on-naples-beach/#comment-17779 rafflaw Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:11:12 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=2631#comment-17779 You have to love those wacky Italians! It does show a degree of arrogance and indifference to lie there sunbathing with two dead girls laying there. It is sad that the lives of two young people are not valued in Italian society. It reminds me a certain President's arrogance over the dead in Iraq and the tortured souls at Bagram and Gitmo. No difference. You have to love those wacky Italians! It does show a degree of arrogance and indifference to lie there sunbathing with two dead girls laying there. It is sad that the lives of two young people are not valued in Italian society. It reminds me a certain President’s arrogance over the dead in Iraq and the tortured souls at Bagram and Gitmo. No difference.

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