Aristotle said of your people over 2,000 years ago that you cant expect a nomadic goat herder to be civilized. Seems some things just dont change.

Australopithecus.

Thank you for visiting from the pre-historic period. Why don’t you get your white hood, Bible, and “blankie” and just ease on back to the past. That way some African American kids won’t scare you back into the stone age first for mouthing these stupid insults that probably got passed to you from the Neanderthals that raised you. Seig Heil!

The 14 year old girl that was gang raped, burned and murdered by your “friends and family” was Abeer Qassim al-Janabi;

her 34 year old mother was named Fakhriyah;

her 45 year old father was named Qasim;

and her 7 year old sister Hadil.

The six “friends and family” of Gyges that came to Iraq to bring this little girl ‘Freedom, Democracy, Horror, Rape and Death’ were Jesse SPIELMAN, Steven GREEN, Bryan HOWARD, James Barker, Paul Cortez, Anthony Yribe.

References:

raedinthemiddle (a ME website was the only one I could find that fully detailed the atrocities)

CNN couldn’t bother naming the parents and sister or indicating that the sister was 7 years old

MSNBC didn’t bother to list the age of the sister either and continuously referred to the 14 year old as “the woman”.

Fox didn’t think the story was that important.

I guess I can’t have any sympathy for 7 year old and 14 year old girls who are brutalized and murdered , because I have a “perfect” life and those foreigners weren’t my friends or family. Some people have no conscience and are beneath contempt.

And as far as Jews not being a race, there is a GENETIC disease that is common to European JEWS, it’s call Tay-Sachs. The last I checked, there was no genetic diseases that could be isolated by religion.

BTW, Gyges, which of those six US soldiers that raped and murdered a 14 year old and 7 year old girl was your “family” and which were merely “friends”?

I googled Richard Murdoch, the FIRST name on your list. Then I went through the first 2 pages of links that came up, did a word search for “Zionist” and “Jew.” The only thing that came up was a mention of Obama having a problem with the Jewish vote in Florida.

So I ask again, what is your source for this list of names?

Zak,
You know that’s a lie. Your info is from http://www.jewwatch.com, which is not a website of Jews, it’s a highly anti-Jewish website.

“2% of the US population should not control that much of ANY one industry.”

I would think you would be very comfortable with that since you support many Islamic States where 2% of the population controls not just the media, but the whole country and its’ wealth. Perhaps indeed since you have a perfect life and are a man of means you’re one of that Islamic 2%.

2% of the US population should not control that much of ANY one industry.

Again, how do you know that 75% of the experts are Jewish?

I personally can’t tell a Jewish person just by looking at them. One of my sister in laws has blond hair and blue eyes and another is from Trinidad, both are Jewish. Sammy Davis Jr. was also Jewish. He looks nothing like either of them. None of the three bears even a passing resemblance to Einstein. It can’t be last names, so many people in the media use fake names. Also interfaith marriages are on the rise, and many families names were “Americanized” when they immigrated. So how do you know?

You do have a point that our media is much more sympathetic towards one of our countries main allies than towards the allies enemies. I’m sure the same thing has happened with the English and the French and their enemies (I can even think of a time when it got us involved in a war). You have yet to convince me that it rises to the level of conspiracy and is not just regular biased journalism.

But I couldn’t careless who the networks decide to be the “face” of the news, I care more about who controls the stories. Next time you’re watching any of the media outlets on the list above, especially Fox and CNN, listen to the language that the reporters are reading from the teleprompter. Israeli official STATES vs. Palestinian official CLAIMS; Palestinians KIDNAP or ABDUCT two Israeli vs. Israel DETAINS or CAPTURES Arabs; Arabs MURDER Israelis vs. Israelis KILLS Arabs; and the ever prevalent Palestinians ATTACK vs. Israelis RETALIATE. Can you find a SINGLE case on Fox or CNN of Arabs RETALIATE to Israeli ATTACK/AGGRESSION?

The bias is not only in the hiring of the anchors and Reporters, it’s also of the Editors and Writers. Watch the Talking Heads on every night, not just on Fox, CNN and other “news” stations, but even shows like The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Real Time etc, well over 75% of the “experts” or guests are Jews (Zionist or otherwise). All Americans should be concerned about this sort of monopoly because it leads to this sort of institutionalized racism.

A correction to my previous post, the link should have been this one .

Correction to the link in my previous post, It should have beenthis one

Only 3 names because those are the ones that are stuck in my memory, but Google any one of them and the search list will lead you to many more since they will appear in already collected lists of police shootings and subsequent acquittals. For example I just googled with the following search string “”Amadou Diallo” “Sean Bell” “Tarika Wilson”" to get a 10 hit list. This one of them relates to New York city only.

“Well if news reports of the deaths of Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell and Tarika Wilson and of the acquittal of their killers constitute extremist propaganda.”

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Come now Carlyle you know better than most that three examples do not prove even a trend, much less a universal fact. Egregious results do not prove that the system as a whole works that way. Yanks or not, we can make logical deductions and spot a hasty generalization when we see one.

About your Zionist news conspiracy: First I’d like to know your sources for the fact that everyone on that list is a “Zionist Jew.” I doubt you personally had the time to go and research every single name on the list thoroughly, so it seems like it probably came from somewhere and I’d like to know how reliable and unbiased the source material is.
I can’t find a single listing of CNNs employees on their website, so how do you even know that they hire 0% Arabs? Sure their public face might be sadly lacking in that respect, but look at who their target audience is, Americans want their news reporters to look a certain way. That’s slowly changing, but the turn over in major networks is pretty slow. However the fact that the public face looks a certian way doesn’t mean that everyone in the entire company fits that profile. You’d be hard pressed to find enough people with news anchor looks that want to be in the HR department, selling advertising time, or translating news items into and from Arabic. For every one face you see on the news there’s a battalion of support.

“All in all your statements have the ring of someone whose vast knowledge comes from reading extremist propaganda, and not from someone who’s been there.”

Well if news reports of the deaths of Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell and Tarika Wilson and of the acquittal of their killers constitute extremist propaganda.

“So I should take from that statement that the group of criminal defendants I saw today, most of whom pled guilty, were atypical of the system and the one case you cite in one tiny jurisdiction is the norm.”

They pled guilty, does that mean that all of them did perform actions constituting the crime to which they pled. You yanks use the corrupt system of plea bargaining whereby the prosecutor can make credible threats of convicting the defendant on a charge carrying a life wrecking penalty if he/she refuses the plea offer with the tolerable penalty. 95% of cases end in a plea leaving the prosecutors to spend their resources on the recalcitrant few unwise enough to risk trial perhaps because they did not perform the acts of the crime.

If the vaunted presumption of innocence actually existed going to trial might be a reasonable option but instead most facing a criminal court face the presumption of guilt in the minds of jurors from the respectable classes. These worthy people arrive at court with not only their prejudices against colored and poor people but a desire to help the good guys put away the bad guys raised to fever pitch by years of tabloid and television spreading of moral panic, righteous hate and fear.

I suggest to read Nate Blakeslee’s book on the scandalous Tulia cocaine busts or at least his articles in the Texas Observer. Observe what happened to those poor niggers when they trusted to the court and plead not guilty before a jury of the righteous white citizens of Swisher County just because they had not sold any cocaine to Tom Coleman. Sentences of mind-boggling visciousness, 25 years, 40 years, 60 years. Not surprisingly later defendants took pleas.

Pleading not guilty in a US criminal court is to take a dangerous risk.

“I got this kind of nonsense when I was debating in University, and I never lost in such a debate.”

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That must have been one lonely lecture hall.

It is not anti-Semitic to suggest that if your “fact” that Saudis own 40% of CNN yet they hire 0% Arabs and a majority of Jews (please see the list above), that the Muslims are more democratic in their hiring practices than are the Jews.

I got this kind of nonsense when I was debating in University, and I never lost in such a debate. So anyone who feels that ignoring or shouting down the points is being clever, ignorance is bliss and you must be the happiest person alive.

Society is now accepting of a paramilitarized civilian police force.

Society is becoming quieter and quieter when confronted by outright and obvious government abuses, including the execution of citizens.

Dissent is being silenced.

Reality is being reframed, rewritten, and restated to us. And many accept it.

I see no end to these offenses, nor who they will be perpetrated upon.

Good cops don’t do that period. I’m studying criminal justice in college and plan on doing homicide and I’m not a bad person. I don’t like guns, tasers, pepper spray, mace etc. This sort of incident goes back to the department leadership as well. Are the SWAT team properly trained? Do they have drug and psyche evaluations? Is the leadership strong on rules and regulations? If you have leadership who doesn’t care you’re going to have officers whether SWAT, patrol etc. who don’t care as well. Everyone should have the same justice. If it was up to me this SWAT guy would get life in prison without parole and his family wouldn’t get any money from his pension or benefits since he did commit a crime.

“the law is what the law does…”

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So I should take from that statement that the group of criminal defendants I saw today, most of whom pled guilty, were atypical of the system and the one case you cite in one tiny jurisdiction is the norm. Sorry the stats don’t bear out your conclusion. By the way, many of the defendants I saw were people of color and many of their victims were white. The reverse was also present and not one Judge asked about anyone’s ethnicity before accepting all of the pleas. In addition, there were many black officers filing complaints against both black and white defendants, and the reverse was true as well.

All in all your statements have the ring of someone whose vast knowledge comes from reading extremist propaganda, and not from someone who’s been there. You are indeed the master of drawing generalized conclusions from one glaring bad example, which of course puts you in such fine company as zakamir. The exception does not establish the rule, it merely proves errors will happen in any human system.

Finally, I would not so cavalierly dismiss a system of justice that has kept you free and happy. For a change of pace, try a walk around zakamir’s world and insult Allah by word or cartoon, and then offer me a comparison. At that point you might actually see what is bovine waste product and what is not –that is of course assuming you could tell the difference.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1365

Zakimar is your garden variety anti-Semite and arguing with him is like teaching that proverbial pig to sing. He has no interest in debate just bloviation, and blaming the world’s problems from crop failures to armed conflict on a caricature of a people he knows little about but upon whom he claims omniscience. He may be ‘intelligent ‘ in the same was the fascist’s got the trains to run on time, but if we judge him by what he habitually does (as Aristotle suggested) we can only conclude that he is a bigot and unworthy of either respect or attention. For anyone to seriously say that his part of the world is freer than the USA, even with our current Administration, demonstrates a breathtaking divorce from reality, or an ideology so steeped in parochialism as to be almost paranoia.

It wouldn’t matter to me too much that these Jews are all Zionists, but when they only hire their own so that no dissenting opinion can be given (all 175 of Murdoch’s outlets speak with one opinion, his), their monopoly is far more threatening to America than Standard Oil, AT&T or Microsoft.

RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the World and 175 media outlets.

SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, “world’s biggest media giant” (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.

SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications, includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group, includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement; American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.

LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.

MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets

MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations

JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner

NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News

JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC

DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News

MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.

MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS

DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS

JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS

DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS

SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment

LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment

BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.

SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of Paramount Pictures’ Motion Picture Group.

HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.

BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.

PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch’s News. Corp., owner of Fox TV

MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his “mentor.”

ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe and other publications.

WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post. Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring “anti-Israel media.”

RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post

JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe

NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya’s press secretary.

STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet’s first choice as an expert on domestic terrorism.

DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times network of “alternative weeklies.”

DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund

KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker

BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal Entertainment

KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch

RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer and Bill O’Reilly.

TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.

MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL

WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL- TimeWarner

JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment

JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2

SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment

GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment

STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks

LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment

JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment

MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC’s “Good Morning Miami”

DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC’s “Good Morning Miami”

HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America

AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures

JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann’s American operations

ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications

BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment

IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications

WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN’s Late Edition

LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live

TED KOPPEL, host of ABC’s Nightline

ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter

PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host

MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes

BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC’s 20-20

MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review

BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week

DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of Philip Graham

CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post

HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek

WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
Project for a New American Century (PNAC)

RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle

PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,

RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has Israeli flag on his home page.

BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.

ANDREW LACK, president of NBC

DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins

DAVID REMNICK, Editor, The New Yorker

NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York

HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker

DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.

PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron’s

RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.

LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group that also owns CNN

Fell free to add all the anchors, reporters, columnists and talking heads that are not on this list.

I wish the above was just a figment of my imagination, but it’s a nightmare that all of America has to endure, for now. So wake up and start your boycotts, petitions and make any of your non-Zionist Congressman (that’s a shorter list) do something about this monopoly.

Zak,
40% of CNN is owned by Saudi’s. Now unless you believe that the Saudi’s are in league with Israel, how does that make CNN a “Zionist Jew” network?

“BTW, my part of the world has ALWAYS been freer and a better place to live than yours.”

Well I don’t remember lately how the USA and Europe had given no rights to 50% of their population, dictated the clothing they wear, executed women for being raped, cut off the hands of thieves, etc. I am certainly no jingoist for the US, or for the actions of racists, but your statement is absurd.

“I know I’ve said it before, but pick up a book once in a while. Reading will teach you a lot more than all your “writing”.”

Reading will do wonders I agree, but your reading seems to focus on propaganda that only agrees with your original mindset. That is not self education, that is self justification and gratification. You appear to excel in that area, which is a pity, since you probably are an intelligent person. However, as intelligent as a person may be does not protect them from being ignorant.

“but you should make the proper distinction here. The law applies to all, hence the prosecution of this officer.”

That is the kind of pious statement that lawyers and naive people make, it is also unadulterated bovine excrement. The law is what the law does and any disinterested observer such as one from a far away galaxy would see that the most powerful contributing factor to the law’s outcomes is prejudice. Cases such as that of Tarika Wilson are not rare aberations, they are the norm when white cops kill “innocent” black people.

The law applies to all to the extent that their race, class and wealth entitle them and not one jot further, hence the result in this case, anyone who seriously expected something different is out of touch with reality.

How about a little wager, if it’s the white person, I’ll never post on this site again, and if it’s the Black family, you do the same. I look forward to you going the way of your partner bartlebee.

BTW, my part of the world has ALWAYS been freer and a better place to live than yours. Slaves would escape the US to come here. You only convince yourself and equally ignorant people.

I know I’ve said it before, but pick up a book once in a while. Reading will teach you a lot more than all your “writing”. I find that my two year old learns faster than you. And my four year old is already way out of your league in compassion, generosity AND manners.

I thought since 1865, human slavery and oppression was more a characteristic of your part of the world. When will your crowd get around to an emancipation proclamation for women and “non-believers”?

“The law has owners and to the extent that it works, it works for the owners, it does not work for those who like poor black people have no share in its ownership.”

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I assume your comment is tongue-in-cheek but you should make the proper distinction here. The law applies to all, hence the prosecution of this officer. The culprit here is not the law which does not dictate an outcome, but the members of the jury and the judge who allowed racial prejudice to creep in to the decision. The Judge should never have permitted an all-white jury to hear this case, and should have cowled the defense lawyer’s remarks. The jury acting out of fear and acquitted this man. The civil suit should be interesting and may achieve some measure of justice for this family. But blaming the law simply will not wash. But for the law (such as the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Brown v. Board of Educ., etc.), our country would look a lot more like 1958 instead of 2008.

I think what you point out is part of what’s going on. Lima is just off I-75, the north-south drug run. Confiscated drug money arms police with military specs.

I really believe cheney and bush need to be impeached because their “leadership” has led to a lawlessness within law enforcement, justified by their war OF terror on “we the people”. They have not only allowed such lawlessness to go unchecked, they have set the system up to function precisely as it does. You’re right, “The Police State is a reality”.

Thank you for your co-operation.

Tarika Wilson caused her own death by living with a drug dealer. If she knew he was a drug dealer she is criminally wicked for living with him, if she did not know then she is guilty of criminal naivity. In either case here death provides a righteous object lesson, do not live with drug users or dealers, the police will shoot you.

As for officer Sgt. Joseph Chavalia. He is a policeman. The job of police at the pointy end is one of low pay and low status. One cannot expect to fill such jobs with people of enough intelligence good judgement or good character to try to avoid shooting innocent people or to avoid mistaking the gunshots from the murder of the puppy dogs down stairs for lethal shots aimed at them. One cannot expect them to hesitate in shooting just because their target is objectively no threat to them.

The war against drugs is war, and a certain amount of collateral damage has to be accepted and in any case it is always entirely the enemies’ fault. Some people will point out that the collateral damage from the drug war is greater than that caused by the drugs. But this misses the important point, drugs are illegal not because they are harmful, but as are also witchcraft and heresy they are tainted with supernatural evil, EVIL EVIL! One cannot abandon paramilitary raids just because a few “innocent” Kathryn Johnsons or Taraka Williams get shot if there is a risk that as a result even one microgram of evidence gets flushed down the toilet.

There, fixed that for you.

The journalist is now over at CNN, Dana Milbank has some choice words for the woodtick…