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	<title>Comments on: Mukasey&#8217;s Elmer Fudd Defense</title>
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		<title>By: Mukasey&#8217;s Comment on the Surveillance and Torture Program Leads to Congressional Confrontation &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-30260</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mukasey&#8217;s Comment on the Surveillance and Torture Program Leads to Congressional Confrontation &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] will record that Mukasey, who has portrayed himself as independent and utterly faithful to the law, worked to protect the President and his Administration from a crime hiding in plain view. It is a poor legacy &#8212; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will record that Mukasey, who has portrayed himself as independent and utterly faithful to the law, worked to protect the President and his Administration from a crime hiding in plain view. It is a poor legacy &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-23967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update on Elmer!  (from talkingpointsmemo) 

HJC To Consider Contempt Citation for Mukasey Tomorrow
By Kate Klonick - September 9, 2008, 6:06PM

Finally! Congress is back from va-cay, and they&#039;ve got lots of work to do before years end and House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) is wasting no time.

Tomorrow morning, the Committee is scheduled to consider a citation for contempt for Attorney General Michael Mukasey for his failure to supply documents in accordance with the subpoena issued in late June.

The meeting is set to start at 10:15 EST. We&#039;ll be sure to keep you updated on what happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update on Elmer!  (from talkingpointsmemo) </p>
<p>HJC To Consider Contempt Citation for Mukasey Tomorrow<br />
By Kate Klonick &#8211; September 9, 2008, 6:06PM</p>
<p>Finally! Congress is back from va-cay, and they&#8217;ve got lots of work to do before years end and House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers (D-MI) is wasting no time.</p>
<p>Tomorrow morning, the Committee is scheduled to consider a citation for contempt for Attorney General Michael Mukasey for his failure to supply documents in accordance with the subpoena issued in late June.</p>
<p>The meeting is set to start at 10:15 EST. We&#8217;ll be sure to keep you updated on what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20936</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jill and MQuinn,
That interview was very good.  I would like to see a debate where the candidates would get to ask each other some questions and then then the moderator(s) would actually have their laptops turne on and would use them to verify the accuracty of the respective answers.  It would be priceless to see McCain try to answer some tough questions on his large flips and then his response when the facts are displayed on the screen for all to see how wrong he is and how he was lyhing.  I realize that neither party would accept this kind of &quot;debate&quot;, but it would make for great TV and McCain would nail his own coffin for all to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill and MQuinn,<br />
That interview was very good.  I would like to see a debate where the candidates would get to ask each other some questions and then then the moderator(s) would actually have their laptops turne on and would use them to verify the accuracty of the respective answers.  It would be priceless to see McCain try to answer some tough questions on his large flips and then his response when the facts are displayed on the screen for all to see how wrong he is and how he was lyhing.  I realize that neither party would accept this kind of &#8220;debate&#8221;, but it would make for great TV and McCain would nail his own coffin for all to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MQuinn,

That interview is priceless!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MQuinn,</p>
<p>That interview is priceless!</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen to that Gyges!  I learn so much more from the long form interview on Terry Gross or even the shorter ones on Science Friday.  A good questioner will ask difficult questions, not to trip the person up, but to have them explain their ideas in depth.  I wish we didn&#039;t have presidential debates either.  In order to do a real debate you need one, or several, well informed questioners who will kick ass and take names on the debatees until they answer.  Since this type of person is rarely allowed on any media outlet I think no debate forums are better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that Gyges!  I learn so much more from the long form interview on Terry Gross or even the shorter ones on Science Friday.  A good questioner will ask difficult questions, not to trip the person up, but to have them explain their ideas in depth.  I wish we didn&#8217;t have presidential debates either.  In order to do a real debate you need one, or several, well informed questioners who will kick ass and take names on the debatees until they answer.  Since this type of person is rarely allowed on any media outlet I think no debate forums are better.</p>
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		<title>By: Gyges</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gyges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know I&#039;ve actually been thinking that &quot;Debate&quot; on most news shows is over-rated. Ideally you end up with something like the debate one Christopher Hitchen&#039;s and reverend Al Sharpton had shortly after Hitchen&#039;s &quot;God&#039;s Not So Great&quot; book came out, or the famous Frank Zappa\Candy Stroud debate. The problem is that you usually justget two people shouting slogans at each other. I personally think a better way to hear two different view points on a subject it a &quot;separate interview&quot; situation. That way the parties don&#039;t get stuck on arguing a small point and you get a much better view of what each side is saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I&#8217;ve actually been thinking that &#8220;Debate&#8221; on most news shows is over-rated. Ideally you end up with something like the debate one Christopher Hitchen&#8217;s and reverend Al Sharpton had shortly after Hitchen&#8217;s &#8220;God&#8217;s Not So Great&#8221; book came out, or the famous Frank Zappa\Candy Stroud debate. The problem is that you usually justget two people shouting slogans at each other. I personally think a better way to hear two different view points on a subject it a &#8220;separate interview&#8221; situation. That way the parties don&#8217;t get stuck on arguing a small point and you get a much better view of what each side is saying.</p>
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		<title>By: MQuinn</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MQuinn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[russ,

Here&#039;s a link of JT on the O&#039;Reilly show...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLn4JESx8wo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>russ,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link of JT on the O&#8217;Reilly show&#8230;</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/hLn4JESx8wo/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This man isn&#039;t as cute as Elmer so maybe the Chinese will remove him from office.  I can see why he&#039;s the darling of the admistration though.

From McClatchy:  &quot;Mr. Mukasey said he expected criticism of the rules (to loosen restrictions on FBI&#039;s national security and criminal investigations) becuase, &#039;they expressly authorize the FBI to engage in intelligence collection inside the US&#039;...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man isn&#8217;t as cute as Elmer so maybe the Chinese will remove him from office.  I can see why he&#8217;s the darling of the admistration though.</p>
<p>From McClatchy:  &#8220;Mr. Mukasey said he expected criticism of the rules (to loosen restrictions on FBI&#8217;s national security and criminal investigations) becuase, &#8216;they expressly authorize the FBI to engage in intelligence collection inside the US&#8217;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: zakimar</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zakimar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most people who watch fox likely don&#039;t or can&#039;t read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people who watch fox likely don&#8217;t or can&#8217;t read.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To me, anyone who can watch any of the stuff at Fox &quot;News,&quot; whether it is O&#039;Reilly or any of the other right wingnuts has much more patience than I do.  I honestly tried to watch O&#039;Reilly once, about a year ago, and I didn&#039;t make it past the first 15 minutes of one of his so-called &quot;discussions&quot; or whatever he calls them.  He doesn&#039;t debate, he screams at people, at least that&#039;s the way it sounds to me.  I got so fed up I shut the TV off and read a book instead.  The quiet was a welcome respite from O&#039;Reilly&#039;s nails-on-chalkboard voice.  I&#039;ll stick with COUNTDOWN, as I really like KO&#039;s style and his talks with JT and his other guests.  I&#039;ll let the really brave souls tackle O&#039;Reilly.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, anyone who can watch any of the stuff at Fox &#8220;News,&#8221; whether it is O&#8217;Reilly or any of the other right wingnuts has much more patience than I do.  I honestly tried to watch O&#8217;Reilly once, about a year ago, and I didn&#8217;t make it past the first 15 minutes of one of his so-called &#8220;discussions&#8221; or whatever he calls them.  He doesn&#8217;t debate, he screams at people, at least that&#8217;s the way it sounds to me.  I got so fed up I shut the TV off and read a book instead.  The quiet was a welcome respite from O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s nails-on-chalkboard voice.  I&#8217;ll stick with COUNTDOWN, as I really like KO&#8217;s style and his talks with JT and his other guests.  I&#8217;ll let the really brave souls tackle O&#8217;Reilly.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russ,

Classic Bill O&#039;Reilly here...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200405020006

I loved it. Seriously, there is no better way to sum up that clown. Faced with an intellectual opponent O&#039;Reilly&#039;s reflex action is to create a fictional statistic from a fictional bussiness journal, &#039;The Paris Bussiness Review,&#039; to support his ludicrous claims that his boycott of french products has cost the country billions in lost revenue. Nevermind that he was completely wrong, since France&#039;s exports to America had increased during the relevant time span.

What was the point of this foray into make everything up land? It was Bill&#039;s sick, misguided, stupid attempt to threaten Canada with a similar fruitless boycott. OUR LARGEST TRADING PARTNER. What an insanely bloated ego on that man.

By the way, Bill&#039;s tragic attempt to support his baseless arguement prompted some delightfully silly person to create this site.

http://www.parisbusinessreview.net/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ,</p>
<p>Classic Bill O&#8217;Reilly here&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200405020006" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org/items/200405020006</a></p>
<p>I loved it. Seriously, there is no better way to sum up that clown. Faced with an intellectual opponent O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s reflex action is to create a fictional statistic from a fictional bussiness journal, &#8216;The Paris Bussiness Review,&#8217; to support his ludicrous claims that his boycott of french products has cost the country billions in lost revenue. Nevermind that he was completely wrong, since France&#8217;s exports to America had increased during the relevant time span.</p>
<p>What was the point of this foray into make everything up land? It was Bill&#8217;s sick, misguided, stupid attempt to threaten Canada with a similar fruitless boycott. OUR LARGEST TRADING PARTNER. What an insanely bloated ego on that man.</p>
<p>By the way, Bill&#8217;s tragic attempt to support his baseless arguement prompted some delightfully silly person to create this site.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.parisbusinessreview.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.parisbusinessreview.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russ,

Wow, Russ. Quite a ringing endorsement of Bill O&#039;Reilly there. But, somehow your post lacks many relevant facts concerning O&#039;Reilly&#039;s proclivities towards dubios editing practices, bullying tactics, dismissal of facts, little white lies, outright lies, made up statistics from made up publications, stalker producers, inability to retract a story despite demonstrable flaws, callous use of grieving families for political punditry, assuring that his guests seats are lower than his, name calling, troop bashing, self promotion, factor product placement, and xenophobia. Not to mention his alleged inability to distinguish a loofah from a falafel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ,</p>
<p>Wow, Russ. Quite a ringing endorsement of Bill O&#8217;Reilly there. But, somehow your post lacks many relevant facts concerning O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s proclivities towards dubios editing practices, bullying tactics, dismissal of facts, little white lies, outright lies, made up statistics from made up publications, stalker producers, inability to retract a story despite demonstrable flaws, callous use of grieving families for political punditry, assuring that his guests seats are lower than his, name calling, troop bashing, self promotion, factor product placement, and xenophobia. Not to mention his alleged inability to distinguish a loofah from a falafel.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[russ:

&quot;Throughout the balance of his nightly opinion news show he will have several guests on that have differing opinions and he vigrously debates them and that is why 3 times as many people watch Bill Oreilly as watch Keith Olbermann.&quot;

*************

I watch Olbermann and I watch O&#039;Reilly. I do see opposing views on O&#039;Reilly but they are usually shouted down or he picks such weak representatives that they are intimidated. It&#039;s more like Hannity and Colmes with Colmes playing the straight man. I would much prefer a debate between two reasonable educated men as I have described. The intellectual underpinnings of the right with their college dropout mentality (such as Limbaugh and Hannity who both are only marginally educated)do not interest me, but I would like to hear from an articulate educated man with those viewpoints assuming one actually exists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>russ:</p>
<p>&#8220;Throughout the balance of his nightly opinion news show he will have several guests on that have differing opinions and he vigrously debates them and that is why 3 times as many people watch Bill Oreilly as watch Keith Olbermann.&#8221;</p>
<p>*************</p>
<p>I watch Olbermann and I watch O&#8217;Reilly. I do see opposing views on O&#8217;Reilly but they are usually shouted down or he picks such weak representatives that they are intimidated. It&#8217;s more like Hannity and Colmes with Colmes playing the straight man. I would much prefer a debate between two reasonable educated men as I have described. The intellectual underpinnings of the right with their college dropout mentality (such as Limbaugh and Hannity who both are only marginally educated)do not interest me, but I would like to hear from an articulate educated man with those viewpoints assuming one actually exists.</p>
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		<title>By: zakimar</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zakimar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You obviously have a lot of pent up rage.  Don&#039;t worry, one day you will meet a woman &#039;simple&#039; enough to be with you.  Once you loose your virginity, you&#039;ll feel better.  I&#039;m not sure, but I don&#039;t think what the other the boys did to you at camp counts.  Just remember, it wasn&#039;t your fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You obviously have a lot of pent up rage.  Don&#8217;t worry, one day you will meet a woman &#8216;simple&#8217; enough to be with you.  Once you loose your virginity, you&#8217;ll feel better.  I&#8217;m not sure, but I don&#8217;t think what the other the boys did to you at camp counts.  Just remember, it wasn&#8217;t your fault.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/08/14/mukaseys-elmer-fudd-defense/#comment-20821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mespo,
I don&#039;t think any liberal would mind having opposing views,but not &quot;set-ups&quot; like the ones that occur on O&#039;Reilly and other Fox News theatre shows.  O&#039;Reilly will never have a legitimate &quot;debate&quot; with qualified people on both sides because like some others, he doesn&#039;t want to hear the truth and facts are a very troublesome problem for O&#039;Reilly and Fox News. An Yoo would never debate Turley because it would become too apparent to any observer that Yoo is an expert in quoting his own articles in subsequent articles.  How he was hired at a legitimate law school is amazing.  When you review what has been dsiclosed of his torture memos, it is amazing that he is allowed to teach the law to young students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mespo,<br />
I don&#8217;t think any liberal would mind having opposing views,but not &#8220;set-ups&#8221; like the ones that occur on O&#8217;Reilly and other Fox News theatre shows.  O&#8217;Reilly will never have a legitimate &#8220;debate&#8221; with qualified people on both sides because like some others, he doesn&#8217;t want to hear the truth and facts are a very troublesome problem for O&#8217;Reilly and Fox News. An Yoo would never debate Turley because it would become too apparent to any observer that Yoo is an expert in quoting his own articles in subsequent articles.  How he was hired at a legitimate law school is amazing.  When you review what has been dsiclosed of his torture memos, it is amazing that he is allowed to teach the law to young students.</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[russ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mespo:

Bill Oreilly has, virtually EVERY night, opposing viewpoints.  His starts his show with his &quot;talking points&quot; and then has guests on that typically differ with him and he asks them where he is going wrong if.  It is usually an interesting back &amp; forth.  

Throughout the balance of his nightly opinion news show he will have several guests on that have differing opinions and he vigrously debates them and that is why 3 times as many people watch Bill Oreilly as watch Keith Olbermann.  

Factually, Bill Oreilly late night RERUNS have higher total ratings than Keith Olbermanns prime time broadcasts.

Now why won&#039;t Jonathan Turley go on Bill Oreilly and debate him?  I would guess it is because Mr. Turley is so insecure with himself and his ideology that he cannot face man to man someone that disagrees with him.

Perhaps Mr. Turley would feel more at east debating 14 year old Chinese girl gymnists masquarading as 16 year olds........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mespo:</p>
<p>Bill Oreilly has, virtually EVERY night, opposing viewpoints.  His starts his show with his &#8220;talking points&#8221; and then has guests on that typically differ with him and he asks them where he is going wrong if.  It is usually an interesting back &amp; forth.  </p>
<p>Throughout the balance of his nightly opinion news show he will have several guests on that have differing opinions and he vigrously debates them and that is why 3 times as many people watch Bill Oreilly as watch Keith Olbermann.  </p>
<p>Factually, Bill Oreilly late night RERUNS have higher total ratings than Keith Olbermanns prime time broadcasts.</p>
<p>Now why won&#8217;t Jonathan Turley go on Bill Oreilly and debate him?  I would guess it is because Mr. Turley is so insecure with himself and his ideology that he cannot face man to man someone that disagrees with him.</p>
<p>Perhaps Mr. Turley would feel more at east debating 14 year old Chinese girl gymnists masquarading as 16 year olds&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[russ:

As reluctant as I am to admit it, I must agree with you at least in part. With the Olbermann/O&#039;Reilly juxtaposition, what we have is one group of experts plying their base and another group plying theirs. No real dialog occurs because each side simply preaches to its own respective choir. It would suit me to  see an honest debate about, say torture, between JT and John Yoo, or a discussion of Administration tactics between John Dean and maybe Karl Rove. While I would hold my nose while those respective neo-cons were talking,I would undoubtedly open my ears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>russ:</p>
<p>As reluctant as I am to admit it, I must agree with you at least in part. With the Olbermann/O&#8217;Reilly juxtaposition, what we have is one group of experts plying their base and another group plying theirs. No real dialog occurs because each side simply preaches to its own respective choir. It would suit me to  see an honest debate about, say torture, between JT and John Yoo, or a discussion of Administration tactics between John Dean and maybe Karl Rove. While I would hold my nose while those respective neo-cons were talking,I would undoubtedly open my ears.</p>
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		<title>By: zakimar</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the condom that your father/uncle was wearing when you were conceived had &quot;the lowest ratings of anything around&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the condom that your father/uncle was wearing when you were conceived had &#8220;the lowest ratings of anything around&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Turley, when can we have the pleasure of an actual DEBATE between you and someone with an opposing viewpoint?  I find it disturbing that you insist that you will not appear on any television opnion shows or news casts in a debate atmosphere.

What are you afraid of?

PS: Please ask your Countdown host, blathermouth Olbermann that he needs either 1) some talent on his show or 2) some opposing viewpoints or he will continue going the way of Harcball with the lowest ratings of anything around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Turley, when can we have the pleasure of an actual DEBATE between you and someone with an opposing viewpoint?  I find it disturbing that you insist that you will not appear on any television opnion shows or news casts in a debate atmosphere.</p>
<p>What are you afraid of?</p>
<p>PS: Please ask your Countdown host, blathermouth Olbermann that he needs either 1) some talent on his show or 2) some opposing viewpoints or he will continue going the way of Harcball with the lowest ratings of anything around.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;must read&#039; article highlighting Starr&#039;s negative testimony, as the ICA  was expiring in 1999... 

...guess again.

Starr opposes Independent Counsel Act

April 14, 1999
Web posted at: 11:13 a.m. EDT (1513 GMT)

&quot;...I think it is fair to say that the Act has been a worthwhile experiment. Like most experiments that are professionally conducted, it has yielded significant results,&quot; Starr says. &quot;The results, I believe, support this conclusion: Jurisdiction and authority over these cases ought to be returned to the Justice Department. And who will oversee them? The Congress, the press and the public.&quot;


http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/04/14/test.top/index.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;must read&#8217; article highlighting Starr&#8217;s negative testimony, as the ICA  was expiring in 1999&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;guess again.</p>
<p>Starr opposes Independent Counsel Act</p>
<p>April 14, 1999<br />
Web posted at: 11:13 a.m. EDT (1513 GMT)</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I think it is fair to say that the Act has been a worthwhile experiment. Like most experiments that are professionally conducted, it has yielded significant results,&#8221; Starr says. &#8220;The results, I believe, support this conclusion: Jurisdiction and authority over these cases ought to be returned to the Justice Department. And who will oversee them? The Congress, the press and the public.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/04/14/test.top/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/04/14/test.top/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: dundar</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So does the Elmer Fudd defense apply to John Edwards also then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does the Elmer Fudd defense apply to John Edwards also then?</p>
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		<title>By: Gyges</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gyges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of the immigration law protest I drove past where they had signs that said &quot;Illegals aren&#039;t Criminals.&quot; 

  It bugs me what people and politicians do to the English Language.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the immigration law protest I drove past where they had signs that said &#8220;Illegals aren&#8217;t Criminals.&#8221; </p>
<p>  It bugs me what people and politicians do to the English Language.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I need a little legal knowledge. Didn&#039;t Mukasey have a mildly distinguished legal career? Wasn&#039;t he a Judge when he was nominated? If I&#039;m correct in those assumptions, then I find it so puzzling that he took this job and is behaving in it at a level that approaches the Gonzales debacle. Why would someone do that at the end of his career? Was it the lure of ending his career with being the Attorney General? Could he be so ignorant that he didn&#039;t realize that being a shill Attorney General for the Bush Administration is not a distinguished way to end one&#039;s career? Since I assume he is not a stupid man and also that he can&#039;t get rich from this work, I am truly perplexed by his behavior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need a little legal knowledge. Didn&#8217;t Mukasey have a mildly distinguished legal career? Wasn&#8217;t he a Judge when he was nominated? If I&#8217;m correct in those assumptions, then I find it so puzzling that he took this job and is behaving in it at a level that approaches the Gonzales debacle. Why would someone do that at the end of his career? Was it the lure of ending his career with being the Attorney General? Could he be so ignorant that he didn&#8217;t realize that being a shill Attorney General for the Bush Administration is not a distinguished way to end one&#8217;s career? Since I assume he is not a stupid man and also that he can&#8217;t get rich from this work, I am truly perplexed by his behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: zakimar</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mukasey is just doing what he feels is right.  He is A Zionist Jew covering for a Zionist Christian President because nothing is more important than helping Israel, certainly not any US Laws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukasey is just doing what he feels is right.  He is A Zionist Jew covering for a Zionist Christian President because nothing is more important than helping Israel, certainly not any US Laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hugh,

This link is a discussion on Georgia on Terry Gross.  Evidently McCain has long ties with Georgia and is popular there.  I don&#039;t know if he&#039;s violating the Logan act but sending those two vampires anywhere is an offense before god and mammon! 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93561996]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh,</p>
<p>This link is a discussion on Georgia on Terry Gross.  Evidently McCain has long ties with Georgia and is popular there.  I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s violating the Logan act but sending those two vampires anywhere is an offense before god and mammon! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93561996" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93561996</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a digression from the current topic, but I thought it might merit discussion.

Does anyone here think that by sending Lieberman and Graham to Georgia, McCain would be in violation of the Logan Act?  Wouldn&#039;t that be considered negotiating on behalf of the US by a non-authorized citizen?

Here is the text of the law: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000953----000-.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a digression from the current topic, but I thought it might merit discussion.</p>
<p>Does anyone here think that by sending Lieberman and Graham to Georgia, McCain would be in violation of the Logan Act?  Wouldn&#8217;t that be considered negotiating on behalf of the US by a non-authorized citizen?</p>
<p>Here is the text of the law: <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000953----000-.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000953&#8212;-000-.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Professionalism is alive and well at the Department of Justice today,” (Muskasey) Yup, if I keep repeting things enough times they&#039;ll become reality. It&#039;s my understanding that he&#039;s been offering jobs to those who were rejected for positions due to having &quot;wrong thoughts&quot; about bush and lacking strict constructionist views of the Republican party.  I took that to mean he&#039;s quite worried about the civil lawsuits and doesn&#039;t want them to proceed either.  

As to his views on criminal proscecution--some animals are more equal than others.  Would that such mercy be shown to those without money and connections.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Professionalism is alive and well at the Department of Justice today,” (Muskasey) Yup, if I keep repeting things enough times they&#8217;ll become reality. It&#8217;s my understanding that he&#8217;s been offering jobs to those who were rejected for positions due to having &#8220;wrong thoughts&#8221; about bush and lacking strict constructionist views of the Republican party.  I took that to mean he&#8217;s quite worried about the civil lawsuits and doesn&#8217;t want them to proceed either.  </p>
<p>As to his views on criminal proscecution&#8211;some animals are more equal than others.  Would that such mercy be shown to those without money and connections.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JT:

Mukasey:

&quot;Not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime. In this instance, the two joint reports found only violations of the civil service laws.”


Legal Maxim Since the Roman Times:

&quot;Ubi jus, ibi remedium.&quot; 
(Where law prevails, there is a remedy. )

Obviously, the Bushies live in a place where the law doesn&#039;t &quot;prevail.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JT:</p>
<p>Mukasey:</p>
<p>&#8220;Not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime. In this instance, the two joint reports found only violations of the civil service laws.”</p>
<p>Legal Maxim Since the Roman Times:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ubi jus, ibi remedium.&#8221;<br />
(Where law prevails, there is a remedy. )</p>
<p>Obviously, the Bushies live in a place where the law doesn&#8217;t &#8220;prevail.&#8221;</p>
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