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	<title>Comments on: The Devil Makes Him Do It:  Christian Leader Suggests Satan is Behind Obama and God Has Sent Palin in Response</title>
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		<title>By: Republican Chairwoman Resigns After Sending E-Mails Suggesting that Obama is the Anti-Christ &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Republican Chairwoman Resigns After Sending E-Mails Suggesting that Obama is the Anti-Christ &#171; JONATHAN TURLEY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] favor of a single campaign issue: Obama is the anti-Christ foretold in Revelations. Only recently, James Bramlett sent out an email warning that Satan was behind Obama&#8217;s success. Now, Dutchess County [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] favor of a single campaign issue: Obama is the anti-Christ foretold in Revelations. Only recently, James Bramlett sent out an email warning that Satan was behind Obama&#8217;s success. Now, Dutchess County [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama is the devil.  Obama is a man of peace.  These kinds of  statements bring us into the realm of religiosity and away from rational discussions of the candidates&#039; actual positions.  Sarah Palin needs to be given strict scrutiny for her actual statements and positions as do Obama, Biden and McCain.

Every person who values science and rational decision making, needs to stop this religious take over of our society.  Our society is turning away from knowledge, into the realm of &quot;miraculous forces&quot; that hide  naked power grabs by those making such claims.  The only way out is to disengage with the ideas of &quot;forces at work&quot; and concentrate on bringing the debate back to what is said and proposed by each candidate.

Every time in history that a society has gone into the &quot;miraculous forces at work&quot; phase, disaster results.  More than 2000 years ago it was known that the earth revolved aroung the sun.  The pagan priest suppressed this knowledge in their time and the christians suppressed it in Europe.  Scientific text were burned or coverd over with religious teachings.  Calculous and the laws of Kepler where known by the Greek scientists.  We should not allow knowledge to pass from our civilization.  

A link to an amazing reconstruction of a recovered work by Archimedes is below:  
http://www.archimedespalimpsest.org/digitalproduct1.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is the devil.  Obama is a man of peace.  These kinds of  statements bring us into the realm of religiosity and away from rational discussions of the candidates&#8217; actual positions.  Sarah Palin needs to be given strict scrutiny for her actual statements and positions as do Obama, Biden and McCain.</p>
<p>Every person who values science and rational decision making, needs to stop this religious take over of our society.  Our society is turning away from knowledge, into the realm of &#8220;miraculous forces&#8221; that hide  naked power grabs by those making such claims.  The only way out is to disengage with the ideas of &#8220;forces at work&#8221; and concentrate on bringing the debate back to what is said and proposed by each candidate.</p>
<p>Every time in history that a society has gone into the &#8220;miraculous forces at work&#8221; phase, disaster results.  More than 2000 years ago it was known that the earth revolved aroung the sun.  The pagan priest suppressed this knowledge in their time and the christians suppressed it in Europe.  Scientific text were burned or coverd over with religious teachings.  Calculous and the laws of Kepler where known by the Greek scientists.  We should not allow knowledge to pass from our civilization.  </p>
<p>A link to an amazing reconstruction of a recovered work by Archimedes is below:<br />
<a href="http://www.archimedespalimpsest.org/digitalproduct1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.archimedespalimpsest.org/digitalproduct1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of &quot;nut-jobs&quot;, witness Jennifer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of &#8220;nut-jobs&#8221;, witness Jennifer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that this is a crazy discussion and Sarah Palin is just a person running for a job and I say why should this woman be treated as a nut job and called names when Obama is the one with radical ties that only today were revealed again with Saul Alinsky. If anything Obama is the devil and should be scrutinized much closer than he has been.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is a crazy discussion and Sarah Palin is just a person running for a job and I say why should this woman be treated as a nut job and called names when Obama is the one with radical ties that only today were revealed again with Saul Alinsky. If anything Obama is the devil and should be scrutinized much closer than he has been.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that Sarah Palin is a very scary individual.  Not only is she incompetent, but she is also so far right that she makes Bush look like a liberal. From teaching creationism in public schools and denying global warming and only allowing abortions when the woman&#039;s life is in danger. (However, the Republican platform is even worse. It does not allow an abortion even if the mother&#039;s life is in danger.) There is a very good reason why the ultra-radical religious right leader James Dobson finally announced his backing of McCain after McCain had named Palin as his VP pick.  She would represent an individual who might be even more dangerous than Cheney because she is controlled by the religous right wackos. Jill is right that there is too much religous discussion in this election.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Sarah Palin is a very scary individual.  Not only is she incompetent, but she is also so far right that she makes Bush look like a liberal. From teaching creationism in public schools and denying global warming and only allowing abortions when the woman&#8217;s life is in danger. (However, the Republican platform is even worse. It does not allow an abortion even if the mother&#8217;s life is in danger.) There is a very good reason why the ultra-radical religious right leader James Dobson finally announced his backing of McCain after McCain had named Palin as his VP pick.  She would represent an individual who might be even more dangerous than Cheney because she is controlled by the religous right wackos. Jill is right that there is too much religous discussion in this election.</p>
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		<title>By: LindyLou</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LindyLou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ.  I met some people who were representing that church at the Media Reform Conference in Memphis a few years ago. This church actually works for media justice.  

http://www.ucc.org/media-justice/about.html

They also minister to the gay, lesbian, and transgender crowd.  If you go here 

http://www.ucc.org/lgbt/

you will see this: 
 
&quot; Whoever you are, 
where ever you are 
on life&#039;s journey,
you are welcome here!&quot; 

Religion by itself isn&#039;t necessarily bad.  It provides a basis for people to look philosophically at their actions and choices and the outcomes.  

Bramlett, on the other hand, suits my idea of evil pretty well -- using the guise of religion to promote hatred.  If only the rollers would pray for the gift of discernment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ.  I met some people who were representing that church at the Media Reform Conference in Memphis a few years ago. This church actually works for media justice.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ucc.org/media-justice/about.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ucc.org/media-justice/about.html</a></p>
<p>They also minister to the gay, lesbian, and transgender crowd.  If you go here </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ucc.org/lgbt/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ucc.org/lgbt/</a></p>
<p>you will see this: </p>
<p>&#8221; Whoever you are,<br />
where ever you are<br />
on life&#8217;s journey,<br />
you are welcome here!&#8221; </p>
<p>Religion by itself isn&#8217;t necessarily bad.  It provides a basis for people to look philosophically at their actions and choices and the outcomes.  </p>
<p>Bramlett, on the other hand, suits my idea of evil pretty well &#8212; using the guise of religion to promote hatred.  If only the rollers would pray for the gift of discernment.</p>
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		<title>By: Buttercup</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buttercup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Author Naomi Wolff has correctly (in my opinion) nailed who the real Satan is in this election. From one of Wolff&#039;s radio chats:

Sarah Palin is the populist appearing, attractive, well-groomed Evita of the Rove/Cheney police state. She is styled by the same hands of those who styled Katherine Harris and Condoleezza Rice, who turn brightly hued mall-rats into states-women. 

Sarah Palin is carrying water for, not John McCain, but Karl Rove. Her words are written by George Bush&#039;s speech-writer, she tells George Bush lies (linking 9/11 to Iraq, for example). These are not John McCain words. When she mocks Barack&#039;s desire to stop torture of prisoners, they&#039;re not even John McCain issues.

The Rove/Cheney cabal understands what dermatologists are discussing about John McCain&#039;s disease: On average, he has a 2 to 4 year survival chance. The cabal intends to move Sarah Palin into power for a 10-year run.

Rove and Cheney are orchestrating Sarah Palin&#039;s every move. What happens in a closing society (that is, a dictatorship) is this: elections are held, but they&#039;re corrupted, as with every election since 2000.

Sarah Palin is an affable front person for the same gang of thugs in power now.

I do believe that one or more Satan-like creatures exists in our government right now. Barack Obama is not that beast, however.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author Naomi Wolff has correctly (in my opinion) nailed who the real Satan is in this election. From one of Wolff&#8217;s radio chats:</p>
<p>Sarah Palin is the populist appearing, attractive, well-groomed Evita of the Rove/Cheney police state. She is styled by the same hands of those who styled Katherine Harris and Condoleezza Rice, who turn brightly hued mall-rats into states-women. </p>
<p>Sarah Palin is carrying water for, not John McCain, but Karl Rove. Her words are written by George Bush&#8217;s speech-writer, she tells George Bush lies (linking 9/11 to Iraq, for example). These are not John McCain words. When she mocks Barack&#8217;s desire to stop torture of prisoners, they&#8217;re not even John McCain issues.</p>
<p>The Rove/Cheney cabal understands what dermatologists are discussing about John McCain&#8217;s disease: On average, he has a 2 to 4 year survival chance. The cabal intends to move Sarah Palin into power for a 10-year run.</p>
<p>Rove and Cheney are orchestrating Sarah Palin&#8217;s every move. What happens in a closing society (that is, a dictatorship) is this: elections are held, but they&#8217;re corrupted, as with every election since 2000.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin is an affable front person for the same gang of thugs in power now.</p>
<p>I do believe that one or more Satan-like creatures exists in our government right now. Barack Obama is not that beast, however.</p>
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		<title>By: bartlebee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bartlebee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So let me see if I&#039;ve got this straight.


The devil has stood up a peace loving highly intelligent, Harvard educated former civil rights worker.

But &quot;God&quot; has stood up a warmongering dimwitted pentacostal soccer mom?

:&#124;

To the rest of the civilized, industrialized planet, we must look like a Monkey f#$k#ng a football.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me see if I&#8217;ve got this straight.</p>
<p>The devil has stood up a peace loving highly intelligent, Harvard educated former civil rights worker.</p>
<p>But &#8220;God&#8221; has stood up a warmongering dimwitted pentacostal soccer mom?<br />
 <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To the rest of the civilized, industrialized planet, we must look like a Monkey f#$k#ng a football.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This whole presidential campaign is full of bizarre religious bull-shit.  I see more irrational crap floated by churches on both sides of this race than I&#039;ve heard in a long time.  Remember both Palin and Obama come from a pentecostal traditions and have plenty of supporters from that quarter.  Of course this is over the top insanity and it should be clear it isn&#039;t SATAN, it the work of LOKI.  

Seriously though, all of the religion in this campaign is scary.  It reminds me of other times in our and other countries&#039; history when things were spinning out of control in the society.  Each time there has been a retreat from rationality into the most ignorant, destructive religiosity known to human kind.  We have to put a break on this, everybody; Republican, Democratic and Independent.  No good has ever or will come of this and it&#039;s past time to let it go on with so little challenge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole presidential campaign is full of bizarre religious bull-shit.  I see more irrational crap floated by churches on both sides of this race than I&#8217;ve heard in a long time.  Remember both Palin and Obama come from a pentecostal traditions and have plenty of supporters from that quarter.  Of course this is over the top insanity and it should be clear it isn&#8217;t SATAN, it the work of LOKI.  </p>
<p>Seriously though, all of the religion in this campaign is scary.  It reminds me of other times in our and other countries&#8217; history when things were spinning out of control in the society.  Each time there has been a retreat from rationality into the most ignorant, destructive religiosity known to human kind.  We have to put a break on this, everybody; Republican, Democratic and Independent.  No good has ever or will come of this and it&#8217;s past time to let it go on with so little challenge.</p>
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