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	<title>Comments on: In Harn&#8217;s Way:  MADD Sued For Discrimination in Removing Drunk Driving Victim Considers to be &#8220;Too Disturbing&#8221; for Public Events</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/10/02/in-harns-way-madd-sued-for-discrimination-in-removing-drunk-driving-victim-considers-to-be-too-disturbing-for-public-events/#comment-25448</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Backbone anyone?  There have to be at least a hundred better ways that both MADD and the fair&#039;s organizers could have responded to this situation.  In principal, it is disghusting that MADD didn&#039;t back up the Harns, given what they&#039;re supposed to be standing for.  But the fair&#039;s leadership -- who are supposed to be community leaders themselves -- should also have known better.  If they were feeling pressure from the complaints of certain fair visitors, they should have considered the ethics and aimed for doing the right thing.  What a way to lose the confidence of the community.  And what a waste, that instead of preparing a constructive response for the complainers and using the moment for a teaching opportunity, they took the path of least resistance and caved like rats.  I wonder how many complaints the fair was receiving from visitors every day, on any subject, and how many of those complaints actually pertained to the Harns.  In turn, I wonder how much of the &quot;pressure&quot; the fair&#039;s leaders were feeling from fair visitors, and how much of it they were feeling from their own selfish, shallow, prejudices.  Whoever among the fair&#039;s leadership decided the Harns needed to go needs to go themselves -- they should resign today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backbone anyone?  There have to be at least a hundred better ways that both MADD and the fair&#8217;s organizers could have responded to this situation.  In principal, it is disghusting that MADD didn&#8217;t back up the Harns, given what they&#8217;re supposed to be standing for.  But the fair&#8217;s leadership &#8212; who are supposed to be community leaders themselves &#8212; should also have known better.  If they were feeling pressure from the complaints of certain fair visitors, they should have considered the ethics and aimed for doing the right thing.  What a way to lose the confidence of the community.  And what a waste, that instead of preparing a constructive response for the complainers and using the moment for a teaching opportunity, they took the path of least resistance and caved like rats.  I wonder how many complaints the fair was receiving from visitors every day, on any subject, and how many of those complaints actually pertained to the Harns.  In turn, I wonder how much of the &#8220;pressure&#8221; the fair&#8217;s leaders were feeling from fair visitors, and how much of it they were feeling from their own selfish, shallow, prejudices.  Whoever among the fair&#8217;s leadership decided the Harns needed to go needs to go themselves &#8212; they should resign today.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JT:

Sorry, but I am no MADD supporter. It seems to be just riddled with insurance adjusters working not for better compensation for victims but for more Draconian criminal laws to punish the poor guy who stops after work for a couple of beers. Note their opposition to punitive damages. Like the NRA, it&#039;s the business world wolves donning the sheep skin of the benevolent public service group for their own profit motives. And what a fish in the barrel to attack-- who likes drunk drivers?  (Please note my repeated animal references here, I do like the SPCA)]]></description>
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<p>Sorry, but I am no MADD supporter. It seems to be just riddled with insurance adjusters working not for better compensation for victims but for more Draconian criminal laws to punish the poor guy who stops after work for a couple of beers. Note their opposition to punitive damages. Like the NRA, it&#8217;s the business world wolves donning the sheep skin of the benevolent public service group for their own profit motives. And what a fish in the barrel to attack&#8211; who likes drunk drivers?  (Please note my repeated animal references here, I do like the SPCA)</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/10/02/in-harns-way-madd-sued-for-discrimination-in-removing-drunk-driving-victim-considers-to-be-too-disturbing-for-public-events/#comment-25431</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mrs. Harn is doing a very good thing with her life.  She is to be admired and respected.  The chapter should have supported her work completely, not caved to ignorant opinion and stupidity.

This chapter and the fair employee win my vote for the antichrist!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Harn is doing a very good thing with her life.  She is to be admired and respected.  The chapter should have supported her work completely, not caved to ignorant opinion and stupidity.</p>
<p>This chapter and the fair employee win my vote for the antichrist!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[copied to IDMADD
and the AP
I write as a citizen of this country that looks to cause related organizations to be true to their foundations, their cause, their mission.  Alcoholism and the destruction it can cause, or early experimentation without control, leads to death, difigurement, disability, or the dissolution of families.  It was absolutely demoralizing for me to see that your organization preferred to seek the comfort of &quot;not making a statement&quot; or &quot;not wanting to appear inflamatory&quot; or &quot;not comfortable for our attendees to see&quot; over letting people have the opportunity to see and most importantly understand the horrendous course of events that put Mrs. Harn in her current situation. I feel for her family and hope that they can find peace with you. 

This is clearly a situation where an organization has become more lobbyist and political than one that truly looks to effect  the necessary changes to educate young people and adults about the dangers of alcohol abuse and driving under the influence.  

I can assure you that I will forever see you now as a self-interested and lobby organization vs. one that seeks to truly effect change in creating responsibility with alcohol consumption.  You have crossed the line to the dark side. And I am so truly sorry.

Looking for safe roads
Christopher
Napa, CA

Clearly the national chapter does not wish to receive this email otherwise they would post an email address onto their website]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>copied to IDMADD<br />
and the AP<br />
I write as a citizen of this country that looks to cause related organizations to be true to their foundations, their cause, their mission.  Alcoholism and the destruction it can cause, or early experimentation without control, leads to death, difigurement, disability, or the dissolution of families.  It was absolutely demoralizing for me to see that your organization preferred to seek the comfort of &#8220;not making a statement&#8221; or &#8220;not wanting to appear inflamatory&#8221; or &#8220;not comfortable for our attendees to see&#8221; over letting people have the opportunity to see and most importantly understand the horrendous course of events that put Mrs. Harn in her current situation. I feel for her family and hope that they can find peace with you. </p>
<p>This is clearly a situation where an organization has become more lobbyist and political than one that truly looks to effect  the necessary changes to educate young people and adults about the dangers of alcohol abuse and driving under the influence.  </p>
<p>I can assure you that I will forever see you now as a self-interested and lobby organization vs. one that seeks to truly effect change in creating responsibility with alcohol consumption.  You have crossed the line to the dark side. And I am so truly sorry.</p>
<p>Looking for safe roads<br />
Christopher<br />
Napa, CA</p>
<p>Clearly the national chapter does not wish to receive this email otherwise they would post an email address onto their website</p>
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