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	<title>Comments on: Meet Andy Martin: The Man Behind the Obama is a Muslim Rumors</title>
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		<title>By: Kyler</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/10/13/meet-andy-martin-the-man-behind-the-obama-is-a-muslim-rumors/#comment-119882</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give please. Where so many hours have been spent in convincing myself that I am right, is there not some reason to fear I may be wrong? Help me! Please help find sites for: Hair treatment doctor. I found only this - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.steger.org.ua/Members/HairTreatment/scalp-hair-treatment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;scalp hair treatment&lt;/a&gt;. Hair treatment, the hair leukemias most also treated by toxins are insufficient and early human. Hair treatment, there are long debt knowledge materials and chance that are used for going your pass4side. Thank you very much :cool:. Kyler from Paraguay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give please. Where so many hours have been spent in convincing myself that I am right, is there not some reason to fear I may be wrong? Help me! Please help find sites for: Hair treatment doctor. I found only this &#8211; <a href="http://www.steger.org.ua/Members/HairTreatment/scalp-hair-treatment" rel="nofollow">scalp hair treatment</a>. Hair treatment, the hair leukemias most also treated by toxins are insufficient and early human. Hair treatment, there are long debt knowledge materials and chance that are used for going your pass4side. Thank you very much <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> . Kyler from Paraguay.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now this is scary--a christian website has &quot;found out&quot; about the plot by Fisher Price to inculcate badies into evildoing by using their, &quot;Islamic Doll&quot;.  Allah, oops I mean Jesus, I am afraid and it&#039;s almost Halloween!  

For your enjoyment...

&quot;Some concerned parents have contacted the Mattel toy company with allegations that one of its dolls utters words which promote Islam.

The Little Mommy Cuddle &#039;n Coo dolls are manufactured by Fisher-Price, which is part of the Mattel toy empire. However, a number of parents contacted the company when they heard the doll say these words: &quot;Islam is the light.&quot;

For the full story, see this link:

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=296382]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is scary&#8211;a christian website has &#8220;found out&#8221; about the plot by Fisher Price to inculcate badies into evildoing by using their, &#8220;Islamic Doll&#8221;.  Allah, oops I mean Jesus, I am afraid and it&#8217;s almost Halloween!  </p>
<p>For your enjoyment&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Some concerned parents have contacted the Mattel toy company with allegations that one of its dolls utters words which promote Islam.</p>
<p>The Little Mommy Cuddle &#8216;n Coo dolls are manufactured by Fisher-Price, which is part of the Mattel toy empire. However, a number of parents contacted the company when they heard the doll say these words: &#8220;Islam is the light.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the full story, see this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=296382" rel="nofollow">http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=296382</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/10/13/meet-andy-martin-the-man-behind-the-obama-is-a-muslim-rumors/#comment-26337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The irony in this drips with acidic perversity. An anti-Jewish bigot is treated as a simple scholar merely trying to inform the public of Obama&#039;s Islamic deception. Since no doubt a major hope is that Obama&#039;s support for Israel will be held suspect, by supporters of Israel, does this mean then that Mr. Martin is an Israeli supporter? Can one be an Israeli supporter and a hater of Jews simultaneously? Sadly, I think that it is possible via tortured logic, but the irony of it is stupendous.

What is most disturbing though is the acceptance of a clearly disturbed Mr. Martin as a viable information source, by a major news network. While we all of course understand that FOX is a Right Wing Propaganda source, it does vaguely meet the definition of mainstream media. Mr. Martin and Mr. Corsi before him were initially treated as scholars by the MSM, although both had easily discernible history&#039;s that destroyed their credibility.

While the facts of Pat Buchanan&#039;s bigotry are clear and proven, he nonetheless can be vaguely defined as a pundit, as much as I can&#039;t stand him. With Martin and Corsi all this goes out the window and their expositions become accepted discourse. However, perfectly reasonable people like Dennis Kucinich and even Reverend Wright are defined as wild eyed zealots, whose ideas are then declared beyond the pale. The greatest threat to American democracy is this constriction of political discourse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony in this drips with acidic perversity. An anti-Jewish bigot is treated as a simple scholar merely trying to inform the public of Obama&#8217;s Islamic deception. Since no doubt a major hope is that Obama&#8217;s support for Israel will be held suspect, by supporters of Israel, does this mean then that Mr. Martin is an Israeli supporter? Can one be an Israeli supporter and a hater of Jews simultaneously? Sadly, I think that it is possible via tortured logic, but the irony of it is stupendous.</p>
<p>What is most disturbing though is the acceptance of a clearly disturbed Mr. Martin as a viable information source, by a major news network. While we all of course understand that FOX is a Right Wing Propaganda source, it does vaguely meet the definition of mainstream media. Mr. Martin and Mr. Corsi before him were initially treated as scholars by the MSM, although both had easily discernible history&#8217;s that destroyed their credibility.</p>
<p>While the facts of Pat Buchanan&#8217;s bigotry are clear and proven, he nonetheless can be vaguely defined as a pundit, as much as I can&#8217;t stand him. With Martin and Corsi all this goes out the window and their expositions become accepted discourse. However, perfectly reasonable people like Dennis Kucinich and even Reverend Wright are defined as wild eyed zealots, whose ideas are then declared beyond the pale. The greatest threat to American democracy is this constriction of political discourse.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not sure he is the worst person in the world, but he is in the running for the top spot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure he is the worst person in the world, but he is in the running for the top spot!</p>
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		<title>By: rcampbell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rcampbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OIr as Keith Olbermann would say:  The Worst Person in the Wooooorld!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OIr as Keith Olbermann would say:  The Worst Person in the Wooooorld!</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Andy Martin, 62, is someone barred from a court for frivolous lawsuits, barred from becoming a practicing lawyer for mental problems, and accused of hateful and antisemitic ravings in the past. He was just on Fox News....&quot;
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Man JT you said a mouthful there--and really more about Fox News.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Andy Martin, 62, is someone barred from a court for frivolous lawsuits, barred from becoming a practicing lawyer for mental problems, and accused of hateful and antisemitic ravings in the past. He was just on Fox News&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Man JT you said a mouthful there&#8211;and really more about Fox News.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob, Esq.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I admit it.

Thanks to Lord Scalia, I now deem Political Elections to fall within the category of &#039;Commercial Expectations.&#039;

Remember &quot;His Election?&quot;

Vincent Bugliosi: 

&quot;Under Supreme Court rules, a stay is supposed to be granted to an applicant (here, Bush) only if he makes a substantial showing that in the absence of a stay, there is a likelihood of &quot;irreparable harm&quot; to him. With the haste of a criminal, Justice Scalia, in trying to justify the Court&#039;s shutting down of the vote counting, wrote, unbelievably, that counting these votes would &quot;threaten irreparable harm to petitioner [Bush]...by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of HIS ELECTION.&quot; [Emphasis added.] In other words, although the election had not yet been decided, the absolutely incredible Scalia was presupposing that Bush had won the election--indeed, had a right to win it--and any recount that showed Gore got more votes in Florida than Bush could &quot;cloud&quot; Bush&#039;s presidency. Only a criminal on the run, rushed for time and acting in desperation, could possibly write the embarrassing words Scalia did, language showing that he knew he had no legal basis for what he was doing, but that getting something down in writing, even as intellectually flabby and fatuous as it was, was better than nothing at all. (Rehnquist, Thomas, O&#039;Connor and Kennedy, naturally, joined Scalia in the stay order.)&quot;

And while a tad non-sequitorial, I just love this quote: 

&quot;In yet another piece of incriminating circumstantial evidence, Scalia, in granting Bush&#039;s application for the stay, wrote that &quot;the issuance of the stay suggests that a majority of the Court, while not deciding the issues presented, believe that the petitioner [Bush] has a substantial probability of success.&quot; But Antonin, why would you believe this when neither side had submitted written briefs yet (they were due the following day, Sunday, by 4 pm), nor had there even been oral arguments (set for 11 am on Monday)? It wouldn&#039;t be because you had already made up your mind on what you were determined to do, come hell or high water, would it? Antonin, take it from an experienced prosecutor--you&#039;re as guilty as sin. In my prosecutorial days, I&#039;ve had some worthy opponents. You wouldn&#039;t be one of them. Your guilt is so obvious that if I thought more of you I&#039;d feel constrained to blush for you.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I admit it.</p>
<p>Thanks to Lord Scalia, I now deem Political Elections to fall within the category of &#8216;Commercial Expectations.&#8217;</p>
<p>Remember &#8220;His Election?&#8221;</p>
<p>Vincent Bugliosi: </p>
<p>&#8220;Under Supreme Court rules, a stay is supposed to be granted to an applicant (here, Bush) only if he makes a substantial showing that in the absence of a stay, there is a likelihood of &#8220;irreparable harm&#8221; to him. With the haste of a criminal, Justice Scalia, in trying to justify the Court&#8217;s shutting down of the vote counting, wrote, unbelievably, that counting these votes would &#8220;threaten irreparable harm to petitioner [Bush]&#8230;by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of HIS ELECTION.&#8221; [Emphasis added.] In other words, although the election had not yet been decided, the absolutely incredible Scalia was presupposing that Bush had won the election&#8211;indeed, had a right to win it&#8211;and any recount that showed Gore got more votes in Florida than Bush could &#8220;cloud&#8221; Bush&#8217;s presidency. Only a criminal on the run, rushed for time and acting in desperation, could possibly write the embarrassing words Scalia did, language showing that he knew he had no legal basis for what he was doing, but that getting something down in writing, even as intellectually flabby and fatuous as it was, was better than nothing at all. (Rehnquist, Thomas, O&#8217;Connor and Kennedy, naturally, joined Scalia in the stay order.)&#8221;</p>
<p>And while a tad non-sequitorial, I just love this quote: </p>
<p>&#8220;In yet another piece of incriminating circumstantial evidence, Scalia, in granting Bush&#8217;s application for the stay, wrote that &#8220;the issuance of the stay suggests that a majority of the Court, while not deciding the issues presented, believe that the petitioner [Bush] has a substantial probability of success.&#8221; But Antonin, why would you believe this when neither side had submitted written briefs yet (they were due the following day, Sunday, by 4 pm), nor had there even been oral arguments (set for 11 am on Monday)? It wouldn&#8217;t be because you had already made up your mind on what you were determined to do, come hell or high water, would it? Antonin, take it from an experienced prosecutor&#8211;you&#8217;re as guilty as sin. In my prosecutorial days, I&#8217;ve had some worthy opponents. You wouldn&#8217;t be one of them. Your guilt is so obvious that if I thought more of you I&#8217;d feel constrained to blush for you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cro Magnum Man</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cro Magnum Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:&#124;

I just heard Andy Martin is a Muslim.]]></description>
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<p>I just heard Andy Martin is a Muslim.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob, Esq.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alrightee.

Which one of you Tort mavens out there will explain how the torts of 

&#039;Commercial Disparagement&#039; &amp; &#039;Tortious Interference with Business Relationships&#039; are completely inapplicable here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alrightee.</p>
<p>Which one of you Tort mavens out there will explain how the torts of </p>
<p>&#8216;Commercial Disparagement&#8217; &amp; &#8216;Tortious Interference with Business Relationships&#8217; are completely inapplicable here?</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is entirely possible that &quot;John McCain is a wife beating transvestite and is engaging in witch craft&quot;.  This is of course only a rumor and it has the same believability of anything heard on Fox News. This is not only the insane banterings of a disturbed person, it is the lies of a distubed group of political operatives currently working at Fox News and in the White House and in the Arizona headquarters of John McCain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is entirely possible that &#8220;John McCain is a wife beating transvestite and is engaging in witch craft&#8221;.  This is of course only a rumor and it has the same believability of anything heard on Fox News. This is not only the insane banterings of a disturbed person, it is the lies of a distubed group of political operatives currently working at Fox News and in the White House and in the Arizona headquarters of John McCain.</p>
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