Comments on: Findings: Lemmings Do Not Commit Mass Suicide But Sixty-Four Percent of Republicans Want Palin to Run for President in 2012 http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/ Res ipsa loquitur ("The thing itself speaks") Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:13:45 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Dr_Dredd http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28257 Dr_Dredd Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:07:56 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28257 Leo, Buddha: BWAHAHAHA!!!! Well said, both of you. Leo, Buddha: BWAHAHAHA!!!! Well said, both of you.

]]> By: Patty C http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28256 Patty C Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:58:14 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28256 BIL, you don't have to convince moi... :o I signed on to let JT know I just ordered 'A Fish Called Wanda' on VOD, again - in our honor. I love it AND it's cheap!!! I'm makin' popcorn seasoned with homemade curry powder and freshly grated Parmesan Reggiano with a basket of warm nuts, honey, autumn fruits and cheese - on the side. BIL, you don’t have to convince moi… :o

I signed on to let JT know I just ordered ‘A Fish Called Wanda’ on VOD, again – in our honor.

I love it AND it’s cheap!!!

I’m makin’ popcorn seasoned with homemade curry powder and freshly grated Parmesan Reggiano with a basket of warm nuts, honey, autumn fruits and cheese – on the side.

]]> By: Buddha Is Laughing http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28254 Buddha Is Laughing Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:26:33 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28254 Patty, Creating reality (what an arrogant concept in totality) is becoming more and more difficult in the age of information. No amount of spin will save/fix Palin. Objective reality (as opposed to perceived reality) always wins out over words - it may come at a high price, but objective reality always wins. Doubt that? Read Nazi war propaganda and contrast with the reality of Nazi atrocities. They certainly weren't The Master Race, were they? We didn't have the Internet or computers to speed the process either of "Truthification" as Colbert might say either. Memes spread faster now. Facts spread faster now. That is the tao of things. The world is as it is despite what people think and words are ephemeral. To fight the tao is to invite disaster. Patty,

Creating reality (what an arrogant concept in totality) is becoming more and more difficult in the age of information. No amount of spin will save/fix Palin. Objective reality (as opposed to perceived reality) always wins out over words – it may come at a high price, but objective reality always wins. Doubt that? Read Nazi war propaganda and contrast with the reality of Nazi atrocities. They certainly weren’t The Master Race, were they? We didn’t have the Internet or computers to speed the process either of “Truthification” as Colbert might say either. Memes spread faster now. Facts spread faster now. That is the tao of things. The world is as it is despite what people think and words are ephemeral. To fight the tao is to invite disaster.

]]> By: Patty C http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28249 Patty C Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:26:35 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28249 I thought you'd like it, JT... Thanks for the mention. I'm honored indeed! I thought you’d like it, JT…

Thanks for the mention.
I’m honored indeed!

]]> By: jonathanturley http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28248 jonathanturley Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:58:17 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28248 Patty C: Brilliant grab. I will add it to the main body in your honor. JT Patty C:

Brilliant grab. I will add it to the main body in your honor.

JT

]]> By: Patty C http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28246 Patty C Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:39:20 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28246 Get with the program - 'creating reality' is where it's at... p.s. However, I am reminded of a mass sheep suicide in Turkey in 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4665511.stm Get with the program – ‘creating reality’ is where it’s at…

p.s. However, I am reminded of a mass sheep suicide in Turkey in 2005
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4665511.stm

]]> By: rafflaw http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28245 rafflaw Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:27:20 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28245 Prof. Turley, It is strange that the more people express their dislike of Palin and the more we learn news of her less than intelligent responses and decisions that the "base" yells even louder for her to run in 4 years. And you are spot on when you say the Dems would love to see her run as the Republican candidate. I am not sure she will be still in the public eye 4 years from now. Prof. Turley,
It is strange that the more people express their dislike of Palin and the more we learn news of her less than intelligent responses and decisions that the “base” yells even louder for her to run in 4 years. And you are spot on when you say the Dems would love to see her run as the Republican candidate. I am not sure she will be still in the public eye 4 years from now.

]]> By: jonathanturley http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28244 jonathanturley Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:13:01 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28244 What is fascinating is how the most extreme right has embraced Palin more in the face of criticism from the media, other Republicans (including McCain senior campaign staff), and Democrats. Even Republican commentators have criticized her selection. It is a bizarre reaction. The more ridiculed and ridiculous a candidate, the more she is embraced. The fact is that Democrats would dearly love to have her run in 2012. It was what Dan Quayle did, though I expect that she will meet the same fate. What is fascinating is how the most extreme right has embraced Palin more in the face of criticism from the media, other Republicans (including McCain senior campaign staff), and Democrats. Even Republican commentators have criticized her selection. It is a bizarre reaction. The more ridiculed and ridiculous a candidate, the more she is embraced. The fact is that Democrats would dearly love to have her run in 2012. It was what Dan Quayle did, though I expect that she will meet the same fate.

]]> By: seamus http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28240 seamus Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:22:17 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28240 Oh Dearest Dunk, You're right we fear her getting elected to anything other than Salmon Queen, or Mrs. Northern Lights, or Mrs. Great White North. But man-o-man, we can't wait for her to run as president. Oh Dearest Dunk,

You’re right we fear her getting elected to anything other than Salmon Queen, or Mrs. Northern Lights, or Mrs. Great White North. But man-o-man, we can’t wait for her to run as president.

]]> By: rafflaw http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28228 rafflaw Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:37:59 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28228 Clunk, Fear is not the first word that comes to mind when you mention Sarah from Alaska. She has to be one of the most uninformed national politicians I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. That being said, her ultra-far right wing beliefs are just what the country voted down. I think any of those Republican that you have been mentioned for a possible run in 2012 would be smoked by Obama again. The country is tired of the "Unitary Executive" fictions that Cheney and Bush and Yoo and Addington have pushed on the country. It is an anti-Constitutional theory. I was actually hoping that the Republicans would run a Palin/Bachmann ticket in 2012 to make it a complete wipeout. It is possible that a ticket like that might just be the final blow to the life of the dying Republican party. Clunk,
Fear is not the first word that comes to mind when you mention Sarah from Alaska. She has to be one of the most uninformed national politicians I have ever witnessed in my lifetime. That being said, her ultra-far right wing beliefs are just what the country voted down. I think any of those Republican that you have been mentioned for a possible run in 2012 would be smoked by Obama again. The country is tired of the “Unitary Executive” fictions that Cheney and Bush and Yoo and Addington have pushed on the country. It is an anti-Constitutional theory. I was actually hoping that the Republicans would run a Palin/Bachmann ticket in 2012 to make it a complete wipeout. It is possible that a ticket like that might just be the final blow to the life of the dying Republican party.

]]> By: Former Federal LEO http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28219 Former Federal LEO Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:22:04 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28219 Clunk, That is the sound of a rear differential or universal joint about to fail…or a fool tryin’ to think… I am a conservative 30-year registered Republican who voted for Obama because I am ashamed of the current GOP. You and other ignorant “clunkers” like Sister Palin are why. I want My Party taken away from religious fools and miscreants. You talk about the ‘left and the right’ when you have neither hemisphere within your grey matter ‘crankcase’. You illustrate what is wrong with the current GOP. I would like to see you and the other misfit Palin followers and disciples start the PTNP (Politics to Nowhere Party) and quit hijackin’ the Republican Party of Lincoln and Eisenhower. Clunk,

That is the sound of a rear differential or universal joint about to fail…or a fool tryin’ to think…

I am a conservative 30-year registered Republican who voted for Obama because I am ashamed of the current GOP. You and other ignorant “clunkers” like Sister Palin are why. I want My Party taken away from religious fools and miscreants. You talk about the ‘left and the right’ when you have neither hemisphere within your grey matter ‘crankcase’.

You illustrate what is wrong with the current GOP. I would like to see you and the other misfit Palin followers and disciples start the PTNP (Politics to Nowhere Party) and quit hijackin’ the Republican Party of Lincoln and Eisenhower.

]]> By: Buddha Is Laughing http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28217 Buddha Is Laughing Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:11:56 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28217 You mistake fear for scorn, little one. You mistake fear for scorn, little one.

]]> By: clunk http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28215 clunk Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:01:17 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28215 My my how the left fears Sara Palin. Take a look at Rasmussen polls, over 90% of Republicans said she united the party. The only reason Republicans lost this election is that the solid Republicans do what they always do - stayed home rather than vote for a moderate like McCain. Don't believe me? take a look at voter turnout. It was the same as 2004 as a % of the population but the party that stayed home the most was the Republicans. My my how the left fears Sara Palin. Take a look at Rasmussen polls, over 90% of Republicans said she united the party. The only reason Republicans lost this election is that the solid Republicans do what they always do – stayed home rather than vote for a moderate like McCain.

Don’t believe me? take a look at voter turnout. It was the same as 2004 as a % of the population but the party that stayed home the most was the Republicans.

]]> By: Former Federal LEO http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28212 Former Federal LEO Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:49:19 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28212 "Now onto Gopers." Funny. GOPers, lemmings, and other "rodents"... “Now onto Gopers.” Funny.

GOPers, lemmings, and other “rodents”…

]]> By: Buddha Is Laughing http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28210 Buddha Is Laughing Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:17:50 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28210 Ho, ho, ho! Not intended as a double entendre, but take it as you will. She'll further fractionate the party if nothing else. She's a nightmare and will be lucky to be hosting a QVC show in four years, so let her run. Obama will stomp her hate filled organization into a mud puddle and make it look easy and effortless like the verbal Judo master that he is. I guarantee no matter who the moderator would be, he wouldn't let her get away with that "I'm not going to answer your questions" bullshit in a debate. Under the bright lights of scrutiny, she just looks more and more like a stupid self-serving little narcissistic Nazi. The poster girl for Neoconservatism. So bring it on. Palin/Mussolini 2012. As an aside, I have a well-documented weakness for red heads. Do you know how vile you have to be to become unattractive to me, Sarah? You managed it about 3 minutes and I'll stipulate that you're physically hot. Pretty is only skin deep though and your ugly shows every time you open your mouth. And it's not to the bone. It's to the marrow. Your ugly may be so ingrained as to be mitochondrial. I'd sooner make a pass at a lamp. A plugged in lamp. This is coming from a guy known to say, "Duuuuuh . . . okay" to ridiculous demands from red heads. But your request to be President will be denied. Not just by me either. Pray for that Lemming vote, Sarah. It's all you'd get. Ho, ho, ho!

Not intended as a double entendre, but take it as you will. She’ll further fractionate the party if nothing else. She’s a nightmare and will be lucky to be hosting a QVC show in four years, so let her run. Obama will stomp her hate filled organization into a mud puddle and make it look easy and effortless like the verbal Judo master that he is. I guarantee no matter who the moderator would be, he wouldn’t let her get away with that “I’m not going to answer your questions” bullshit in a debate. Under the bright lights of scrutiny, she just looks more and more like a stupid self-serving little narcissistic Nazi. The poster girl for Neoconservatism. So bring it on. Palin/Mussolini 2012.

As an aside, I have a well-documented weakness for red heads. Do you know how vile you have to be to become unattractive to me, Sarah? You managed it about 3 minutes and I’ll stipulate that you’re physically hot. Pretty is only skin deep though and your ugly shows every time you open your mouth. And it’s not to the bone. It’s to the marrow. Your ugly may be so ingrained as to be mitochondrial. I’d sooner make a pass at a lamp. A plugged in lamp. This is coming from a guy known to say, “Duuuuuh . . . okay” to ridiculous demands from red heads. But your request to be President will be denied. Not just by me either. Pray for that Lemming vote, Sarah. It’s all you’d get.

]]> By: rcampbell http://jonathanturley.org/2008/11/08/related-reports-lemmings-do-not-commit-mass-suicide-but-sixty-four-percent-of-republicans-want-palin-to-run-for-president-in-2012/#comment-28208 rcampbell Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:48:02 +0000 http://jonathanturley.wordpress.com/?p=5275#comment-28208 Sixty-Four Percent of Republicans Want Palin to Run for President in 2012” ...and 87.4% of Democrats really really want her to run. Oh, please, Santa. Sixty-Four Percent of Republicans Want Palin to Run for President in 2012”

…and 87.4% of Democrats really really want her to run. Oh, please, Santa.

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