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	<title>Comments on: Home With the Havens:  Man Shoots Wife During Sex in Alleged Accident</title>
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	<description>Res ipsa loquitur (&#34;The thing itself speaks&#34;)</description>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2008/12/04/home-with-the-havens-man-shoots-wife-during-sex-in-alleged-accident/#comment-30179</link>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ain&#039;t love grand!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ain&#8217;t love grand!?</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former Federal LEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, Mr. Havens was never a Marine or in the Army.

During early boot camp, drill instructors stress the differences between a man’s gun and his weapon. Had Mr. Havens been a recruit, he would have never make this foreplay mistake of confusing one for the other.

This is another good example of why I am for the military draft.  You learn many valuable lessons, including the sex education that you missed in middle school or high school classes, or on the playgrounds.

I mean, the life lessons I learned from cadence calls alone! Your girlfriend was home when you Left, You’re Right!  Left, Right, Left…I shan’t shout-out the remainder of the cadences now on this puritanical liberal forum within which only the highest standards of decorum prevail.

My point being, we need a military draft!  How else can we rid society of the Havens&#039; of the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, Mr. Havens was never a Marine or in the Army.</p>
<p>During early boot camp, drill instructors stress the differences between a man’s gun and his weapon. Had Mr. Havens been a recruit, he would have never make this foreplay mistake of confusing one for the other.</p>
<p>This is another good example of why I am for the military draft.  You learn many valuable lessons, including the sex education that you missed in middle school or high school classes, or on the playgrounds.</p>
<p>I mean, the life lessons I learned from cadence calls alone! Your girlfriend was home when you Left, You’re Right!  Left, Right, Left…I shan’t shout-out the remainder of the cadences now on this puritanical liberal forum within which only the highest standards of decorum prevail.</p>
<p>My point being, we need a military draft!  How else can we rid society of the Havens&#8217; of the world?</p>
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		<title>By: C. Everett Kook</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Everett Kook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a lawyer(which, I imagine, will become fairly evident to all after reading my posts) but that doesn&#039;t even seem legal. That is, to hold someone on a questionable charge, while investigating a more serious charge. If the police or DA has evidence that it wasn&#039;t a voluntary liaison wouldn&#039;t that have to have been made public at the bail hearing?

again pardon my ignorance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a lawyer(which, I imagine, will become fairly evident to all after reading my posts) but that doesn&#8217;t even seem legal. That is, to hold someone on a questionable charge, while investigating a more serious charge. If the police or DA has evidence that it wasn&#8217;t a voluntary liaison wouldn&#8217;t that have to have been made public at the bail hearing?</p>
<p>again pardon my ignorance</p>
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		<title>By: jonathanturley</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathanturley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have avoided a felony marital record, but then again my current problem is not throwing pies but eating them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have avoided a felony marital record, but then again my current problem is not throwing pies but eating them.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rafflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!  I don&#039;t know how my wife and I have made through 34 years of marriage without at least one felony between us!  The shooting sex couple are an especially bright pair.  I am hoping that they do not have any kids, because to continue that gene pool could be hazardous to society.  Is it a felony to be that stupid?  A loaded gun on the bedstand is what every normal couple has in their home, isn&#039;t it?  Especially when your estranged husband, in violation of an order of protection comes over for a sexual tryst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!  I don&#8217;t know how my wife and I have made through 34 years of marriage without at least one felony between us!  The shooting sex couple are an especially bright pair.  I am hoping that they do not have any kids, because to continue that gene pool could be hazardous to society.  Is it a felony to be that stupid?  A loaded gun on the bedstand is what every normal couple has in their home, isn&#8217;t it?  Especially when your estranged husband, in violation of an order of protection comes over for a sexual tryst.</p>
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