Anyone up for some waffles?!!

However, I am indeed the ‘Ice Queen’ today enjoying my ‘Snow King’, Princes, Princesses, and our collective Arctic ‘Flamingos’ in the Crystal Palace/Igloo Compound

My house is temporarily filled with skis and skiiers and several dirty coffee mugs.

Lots of fun, food, and celebrations continue!

“You’re a moron with Ctrl- C and Ctrl-V.”

That’s funny.

There are two kinds of people in this world: those who are controlled by situations and those who control situations. The manipulated and the manipulators.

Res ipsa loquitor, fossor.

Like I said, I’m not as stupid as you, Wayne.

ie JTeee, mespo is not being completely accurate in his presentation.
Make him STOPPP…

By my count you have alienated or insulted six people on the blog, and now are “calling people out,” like Buddha, who is nothing but rational in all of my discourse with him. Do you think it might be time to look in the mirror and see just what it is that causing all this controversy. We can either accept that you are the misunderstood one and the brunt of unwarranted personal attacks by all concerned, or we can accept that some of this is brought on by your own words. In Court and in matters of credibility we always argue: is it more likely that Mr. W lying or are all six of these witnesses who don’t even know Mr. W lying just to frame him? I think you know how that usually turns out.

See, it’s much easier to paint a blogger as a “troll” and thus sub human and not worth any further respect. Its how you people operate. Once you decide you don’t like someone, you proceed to dehumanize them, calling them douchebag trolls and making them less than human.

I’ve found with most people, its harder to do that once there’s a name, a face and even a private email address attached to the person. That’s why I gave professor Turley my phone number. I assumed that once you people discovered that the guy you were attacking was a real person, and not a “troll”, you’d find it within yourselves to meet him half way. Which is what I tried to do with my failed attempts at self deprecating humor. Failed only because they fall on deaf ears.

Clearly though such attempts are lost on the “regulars” in here, as apparently most of you are too busy foaming at the mouth (or keyboard as it were)to ever take the time to read, ask questions when there are doubts, and generally recognize a reasonable human being when you see one. Alas, so goes the fickle mob.

Anyway that’s all I’ve got to say. I’ve said the same thing in so many ways in this thread, and I invite folks to go through the thread and reexamine what was actually said as opposed to what numbskulls like Budda claim I said. Go back, see for yourself. This thread is indeed a virtual Rosetta Stone to understanding the dynamics of the “group bully effect” and how effective it can be in taking one person, demonizing them, and driving them out like so much rubbish.

Try the email. It works. Always has. Trolls don’t post their photos. Trolls don’t post their email addresses. Trolls don’t give out their phone numbers. If you talk to someone directly you’ll find its not so easy to dehumanize them like you do in here, and maybe, just maybe, you’ll find out that you’ve been wrong all along.

Course, it would mean coming out from behind your wall of comfy anonymity, and as we’ve seen from Mespo, Patty, Leo, Budda and the rest, together not one of you is comfortable doing that.

It’s much easier to insult, stalk, mock, demonize, and dehumanize from behind the anonymity of a blog handle. And you all do it so well. Later you superior intellectuals.

I didn’t threaten you little man, nor did I say anything about “fighting”. I simply provided you my email so you could speak with me directly instead of playing tough guy in front of your friends.

I wanted to see if you at least had enough balls to come out from behind the keyboard and put a name and a face behind all your tough talk. And as I figured, you do not.

Out of all the big talking keyboard cowards in here, so far I’m the only one who put up his photo and email. And now you hide behind your keyboard and spin tales about black belts and friends. Many of us have “black belts” pal. Few of us use them in blogs to act tough in front of his buddies.

This is my last response to you in here. I’m done blogging here so don’t bother to respond in here. If you’re man enough, I provided you with an email address to “talk tough” to me in. You can tell me more tales about your big bad black belt, or whatever your “big man” attitude wants to tell me.

You know, you came yesterday out of the blue calling me, a 50 year old home owner, business owner, father, and a generally decent human being, a “douchebag” and all sorts of other things for what you said was my “actions in here”.

Well, I didn’t do anything in here. I simply responded and quite moderately I might add, to a lot of personal attacks that were launched completely without provocation. I simply made one comment about Israel taking steps to defend itself, and on came the onslaught of idiotic rants, insults, slanders, and personal attacks.

Think I’m wrong? Go find the post. Go find the comment in this thread where I was soooo terrible. Go find the comments that caused Patty and Mespo to start in on their tirade. Go find the comments that Leo was criticizing. Hint. You won’t. They’re not there. All of my comments except for a small misunderstanding with Jill which we worked out on our own were simply comments responding to a barrage of personal attacks.

And now I’ve got tough guy calling me names who’s too afwaid to come out from behind his keyboard to talk tough directly to me, and even too afwaid to talk tough in email. Instead, you strut like a preening peacock in here pronouncing your “black belt” and talking about fighting.

And you call me the crazy one.

Don’t respond to me in here because I am done with this blog. I shouldn’t have even checked it this morning. You have my email. I gave it to you. Along with my photo. So at least if you’re going to call people douchebags and make threats to harrass them in the blog, you can at least say it to them, and not a chat room board.

You want to talk tough? Talk tough to me in my email. Tell me about your big bad black belt. Make threats about computer crimes like you just did in here. Say whatever you want, but say it to me. Not to your blog audience tough guy. Say it to me.

If you’ve the balls. Which obviously, for all your “30 years of martial arts training”, you do not.

I’m done. Don’t bother to respond unless you can summon the courage to email me directly. If you respond in here I won’t see it. Of course your friends in here will, which is what you want, so you can act like the big man. Of course I know, and you know, that you’re not the big man. You’re just a little man with a big mouth who talks incredibly brave when he’s anonymously hiding behind his keyboard.

So now you want to start a fight, eh? Wow, stupid and unable to discern who not to screw with.

Contact info? Like I’d give contact info to someone who just threatened me. I’m not as dumb as you are, Wayne. Thanks for your contact info though. I’ll put it to good use. I hope you like tranny porn. But if you want to fight, how about this, Billy Badass?

Come to Kansas City. Go to a Johnson County Public Library or a Kinko’s (any of them). Post here. I’ll meet you there or close by. Not to fight though. So all of my friends can come laugh at you, simpleton. And FYI, unless you’re a black belt or have advanced military combat training, you’re the projected loser in a physical confrontation too, Mr. Small Cerebrum/Bad Attitude. You’re welcome to try, but you’ll pardon me if my 30 plus years of martial arts training makes me giggle at guys like you.

Now go ask mom if it’s okay for you to leave the basement, troll-BOY.

I’ve provided Professor Turley with my contact information, so he knows who I am. He knows I’m not a troll and he knows I sure as hell ain’t Martha.

If you’ve got anything else you want to say to me little man, here here’s my email.

Waynebro@yahoo.com

Shoot me your contact information. We’ll see what a tough guy you really are.

At least I’m not a “nanny nanny boo boo” little shit head contrarian with no ability to argue past “I know you am but what am I”. What are you? Four? That’s the best you got? Turns out you really are an amateur douche bag after all – just like Martha and CCM and all the others. You know. Your alter egos/compatriots. You did manage to hide yourself a while, troll, but as always your mental disorders give you away eventually. You’re not misguided. You’re a moron with Ctrl- C and Ctrl-V. And you are about to get treated as such. This isn’t an ad hominem attack. This is accurate and factual after your recent actions.

That simple enough for you, Wayne?

Patty C:

Just a small question for your consideration. Can it really be an insult when the purported victim insists on repeating it everywhere he goes? I think you nailed his identity long ago while I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Your intuition was right AGAIN. I stand in awe of your Bartlebee detector.
—-
Thanks, mespo. It’s gratifying to finally be recognized again,
so to speak

Inciteful query, as per your usual. I suspect there is much psycho-combustible mileage to gain, if you will, by portraying oneself as the unwitting and innocent victim of a completely unprovoked and hostile attack after simply ‘showing up’, and expressing an opinion in a completely respectful and non-combative manner.

As you know, methane is a proven/possibly viable ‘Alternative Fuel’, also… {;o

p.s. FFLEO, Ahhh, the Voice of Reason’!

BIL, remember ‘Monkey Boy’ on the Australian tourist in India’?

Gyges, Jill, and LL especially – get a clue…

(JTeeeee, Bartlebee etc etc etc is disrupting the blog again
- make him STOP…!!!)

For once, as ironic as it seems, I think I agree with Waynebro!
Hah!

That’s a level of intelligence that I shall never likely attain (nor aspire to). I am indeed, “out of my league”.

So I shall leave you to it.

As Kipling so aptly put, “whether down from Gehenna or up to the Throne he travels the fastest who travels alone.”

Asta

“After domain squatting, here comes online identity squatting…” I guess this is common now. I checked out the concept of squatting on another person’s identity and this is what is happening here.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: No you shut up.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Sure I do. We’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You’re no better than me.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Yes we are.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #3: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: No you’re not.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: You’re stupid.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: Sure I do we’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #3: No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #4: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You’re stupid.

ME: You’re no better than me.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1 I know you are but what am I?

SOMEONE ELSE #2 Yes we are.

SOMEONE ELSE #3 Sure I do, we’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #4 No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #5 Shut up Waynebro…

Are we learning yet?

Here I thought the use of the “Focker” name (from “MEET THE PARENTS, duh) would jar your attention spans long enough to put the puzzle together. Apparently not.

Mr Turley has my IP. He has my EMAIL. And we’ve communicated several times.

The only nonsense here is you three superior intellects who for some reason cannot take a simple hint, nor see their own roles in what I carefully spelled out for you last night, hence the “calliope”.

But apparently you’re not done riding your horses quite yet, so on with the calliope we go.

Most of us have the utmost respect for Professor Turley; however, if he allows “Wayne’s World” to continue on *his* blawg then the quality will decrease into Alice in Wonderland nonsense.

Mr. Turley has the ability to trace ISPs and “narrow down” who posts what material. I admire his freedom of speech rules here, although all sites need at least a modicum of decorum.

That is not Wayne. Someone has appropriated his image. Please see what Gyges and I wrote above. This is a destructive, cruel action that has no place on this blog.

If you’d go set up a WordPress account instead of “squatting”, you’d see that there is an option in your WordPress profile to change what they call your “NICKNAME”.

Thus, you can log in as yourself, but use any “NICKNAME” you want.

Therefore, be ye not afraid. It is I.

Or in this case, they know not what I do.

Please put a stop to this. This is reprehensible behavior. This is someone pretending to be Wayne. It takes a very bad intent to do something like this. This behavior should not be allowed to continue.

…Its a maaadddddd house…….a MAADDDDDDDDDD HOOOOUUUUSE

Charleton Heston
Planet of the Apes

If the two of you putting your collective brains together cannot figure out why I put up the Focker moniker then I don’t know what to tell you.

Like I said. Rent the movie.

I agree. Gaylord never did answer how “he” changed his name. This seems like the attack of an enemy. This is incredibly ugly. Stop immediately. This kind of thing has no place on this blog. No ene here wants to read such things. It is disrespectful of JT who asked people to refraim from personal attacks. It is disrespectful of other people who come to this blog and should not be subjected to such things. People come to this blog to read ideas on the topic and have fun. This is wrong and needs to end.

I thought it was clear that I was talking about your nom-de-keyboard. If it wasn’t I’m sorry, I was in such a rush to defend Wayne (who is possibly you) that I didn’t take the time to proofread and edit as well as I usually do.

What I’m not sorry for is thinking that “gaylord focker” was a childish insult. It seems I missed a pop-culture reference, it happens. Given Waynebro’s previous pride in using his own name, the sudden switch seemed a little out of character.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: No you shut up.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Sure I do. We’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You’re no better than me.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Yes we are.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #3: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: No you’re not.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: You’re stupid.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: Sure I do we’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #3: No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #4: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You’re stupid.

ME: You’re no better than me.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1 I know you are but what am I?

SOMEONE ELSE #2 Yes we are.

SOMEONE ELSE #3 Sure I do, we’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #4 No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #5 Shut up Waynebro…

Gyges 1, January 6, 2009 at 12:43 pm

Gaylord,

If you’re someone pretending to be Wayne, stop. I may not like Wayne very much, but my disagreements with him were always that, disagreements. This is just petty name calling along the lines of what Patty is known for, which I’ve also objected too in the past. So please, stop.

If you’re Wayne (which would be completely stunning to me), perhaps you should enlighten us as to the meaning of your new nom de keyboard.

See Folks? The Calliope never closes.

Another Cock to climb on the Crapheap to Crow.

No it wasn’t “petty name calling” Gyges. If you bother to read instead of glancing and lecturing, you’d see it was chocked full of good advice, clarity, and downright mockery of my doltish “superiors”.

I tried to explain, what’s that term again? ….ah yes, with “CRAYON” with my little Calliope demonstration, complete with self deprecation and full acknowledgment of the “Two to Tango” formula.

Alas its all lost on you “geniuses” as is my current highly descriptive moniker.

All I can do is steer you to the nearest Blockbuster and hope the movie from whence the Focker name came, will illuminate you.

I’m trying to meet folks half way here, but it seems most of you are stuck on your side of the island.

If you’re someone pretending to be Wayne, stop. I may not like Wayne very much, but my disagreements with him were always that, disagreements. This is just petty name calling along the lines of what Patty is known for, which I’ve also objected too in the past. So please, stop.

If you’re Wayne (which would be completely stunning to me), perhaps you should enlighten us as to the meaning of your new nom de keyboard.

I’m not thin skinned, if I were I wouldn’t be here with this gaggle of pompous preening popinjays.

But even if I were, it would be better than being as thick headed as you are being now.

You’re arguing with your own strawmen. You’re arguing positions I never took. Just because someone points out that Israel has a right to defend itself, as Professor Turley pointed out in the article (funny no one jumped on him for tha)) and that there are some visible steps being taken to reduce civilian casualties, doesn’t mean they’re taking Israels side.

Particularly when they state “I am not taking Israels side”.

But apparently in all your pompous blather you failed to ignore that. Probably the froth coming from your mouth fogging up your monitor or something. Whatever it was, take your inane lectures, your false flag attacks, your straw arguments and put em where the sun don’t shine. The Calliope is closed for repairs.

Behold.

The Muse Calliope.

ME: I have an opinion on this slightly different from some others in here.

SOMEONE ELSE: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: No you shut up.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Sure I do. We’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You’re no better than me.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Yes we are.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #3: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: No you’re not.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: You’re stupid.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: Sure I do we’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #3: No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #4: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You’re stupid.

ME: You’re no better than me.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1 I know you are but what am I?

SOMEONE ELSE #2 Yes we are.

SOMEONE ELSE #3 Sure I do, we’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #4 No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #5 Shut up Waynebro…

“Wayne,

I mean what I say. I imply with precision. Your INFERENCE is the problem here. Perhaps raff is right. You often seem a bit thin skinned, but especially in this thread.”

Of for the love of God.

And round goes the calliope.

Round, and round, and round, and ……

I was impressed that you tracked this down as well. The fact that photos and video is so open to manipulation is a real concern. Kudos!

The BBC had very good coverage this A.M. updating the situation in Gaza. I was especially interested in the UN representative’s take on what is happening to civilians and that he considers what has happend war crimes. He believes everyone should account themselves before international law tribunals.

You’re a reasonable man. It’s easy to see why someone would mistake you for a liberal considering the sordid company you keep.

So whether your looking at short OR long term, Im afraid Israel started.

I mean what I say. I imply with precision. Your INFERENCE is the problem here. Perhaps raff is right. You often seem a bit thin skinned, but especially in this thread. I am not your enemy unless you are a Neocon, then it’s on. While I sometimes find your posts misguided, I do not list you as Neocon as you have not acted demonstrably evil. However, if I have a problem with YOU, I will address YOU. My initial statement was just that: a comment made in an open room to no one in particular. It was your choice to infer I was talking to you – a sign of defensiveness as well as an improper inference. I’m not one of the bears you want to poke either. I don’t fear a criminal Unitary Executive or threats of prosecution from a government I consider illegitimate until Bush/Chenney is punished. I certainly don’t fear calling you out if I have a problem. That being said, the assertion that sympathy for Palestinians is immoral and unethical is ridiculous in toto and on it’s face. That’s pure Neocon Likhud propaganda bullshit from word one. By this argument, it was immoral and unethical to protest the Holocaust. Supporting a displaced and persecuted population is supporting a displaced and persecuted population. This is a fascist tactic – denigrate the population you want to attack as to create a (false) justification and attempt to garner sympathy to your cause by creating a feeling of inclusion. You remember all those photos of pre-WWII Germany with the shop windows painted with the word “Juden” or other colorful bits about those hook-nosed baby killers were bad for the Homeland? Same thing. And you should know better.

I made a mistake by not confirming the authenticity of the video at the link. At the time I posted the link, there were 400 deaths reported and verifications that the Israelis targeted mosques and markets. All such reports that were later documented as factual.

The person who posted the first video disingenuously took advantage of the current facts by substituting the dated 2005 video as his “proof” of the carnage. Therefore, there was an Israeli bombing at a main Gaza market within the last 2 days resulting in numerous civilian deaths and casualties. The 2005 video was taken at a Gaza market, but Hamas was responsible for an “accidental” explosion of weaponry resulting in similar civilian deaths and casualties.

The Norwegian doctor’s video provided by CBS is virtually unimpeachable. One of the problems is that reliable information is unavailable because the Israelis are forbidding foreign war correspondents from entering Gaza. The official Israeli news stated that the hospital the Norwegian doctor was speaking from was harboring Hamas terrorists and the entire hospital staff vehemently denied that accusation (from the NBC Nightly News).

Does anyone else remember Peter Sellers in “Being There”?

I care for you all so much but I do…
…something about living vicariously…

FFLEO you are a gentleman!

Jill you are truly kind!

Lindylou You are wise in choosing to remain an earth mother!

Everybody else: You know one must be bold to be on The Turley Team!
There is no “us” or “them” (excepting trolls) you are all Regulars!

As “Regulars” recognize tomorrow/today is a new day and nothing has been said which was so awful that can be overcome.
We have only been discussing Gaza we are not living in Gaza!

Whichever way it is is it needs to be done with much greater speed so the rest of us can stop arguing about it.

“However, after the recent ad hominem posts, I do not know why they would want their names associated with this site in any way given the degenerating basal discussions. ”

More like “anal” discussions.

Here. Allow me to summarize this or any thread I dare to voice an opposing comment (or any comment at all for that matter).

Behold.

The Muse Calliope.

ME: I have an opionion on this slightly different from some others in here.

SOMEONE ELSE: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: No you shut up.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Sure I do. We’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You’re no better than me.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: Yes we are.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #3: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: No you’re not.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1: You’re stupid.

SOMEONE ELSE #2: Sure I do we’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #3: No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #4: Shut up Waynebro.

ME: You’re stupid.

ME: You’re no better than me.

ME: You have no right to tell me to shut up.

ME: You shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #1 I know you are but what am I?

SOMEONE ELSE #2 Yes we are.

SOMEONE ELSE #3 Sure I do, we’re better than you.

SOMEONE ELSE #4 No you shut up.

SOMEONE ELSE #5 Shut up Waynebro…