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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;ll Huff and I&#8217;ll Puff . . . :  Democrats Block Burris From Entering Senate</title>
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	<description>Res ipsa loquitur (&#34;The thing itself speaks&#34;)</description>
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		<title>By: Roselo</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-192794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roselo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pós impressionante como de costume ... já legendou.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pós impressionante como de costume &#8230; já legendou.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-36912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tc,

That was a slam dunk!  LOL!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tc,</p>
<p>That was a slam dunk!  LOL!!</p>
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		<title>By: town crier</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-36905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[town crier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah,they ran up the score like that basketball coach.  They should be ashamed of themselves.  They should have put in the substitute Senators for a couple of articles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,they ran up the score like that basketball coach.  They should be ashamed of themselves.  They should have put in the substitute Senators for a couple of articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-36902</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a blow out we can all get behind!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a blow out we can all get behind!</p>
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		<title>By: town crier</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-36900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[town crier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unanimous, 59-0.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unanimous, 59-0.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-36895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[town crier:

Man you&#039;re better than CNN. Go, baby, go!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>town crier:</p>
<p>Man you&#8217;re better than CNN. Go, baby, go!!</p>
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		<title>By: town crier</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-36894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[town crier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blago impeached and removed. 5:50 PM, Jan. 29]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blago impeached and removed. 5:50 PM, Jan. 29</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The red state update weighs in---LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JziV151HCxE&amp;feature=channel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The red state update weighs in&#8212;LOL</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/JziV151HCxE/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34334</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mespo -

Sadly, no.  I am one of the most mindless of sycophants ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mespo -</p>
<p>Sadly, no.  I am one of the most mindless of sycophants &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;He’s already got this group of mindless sycophants and all he needs is a little push …&quot;

*******

As opposed, I suppose, to that group of knights at the round table which you so ably lead!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He’s already got this group of mindless sycophants and all he needs is a little push …&#8221;</p>
<p>*******</p>
<p>As opposed, I suppose, to that group of knights at the round table which you so ably lead!</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34275</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Careful, Spindell.  Don&#039;t go giving Professor Turley any ideas.  He&#039;s already got this group of mindless sycophants and all he needs is a little push ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful, Spindell.  Don&#8217;t go giving Professor Turley any ideas.  He&#8217;s already got this group of mindless sycophants and all he needs is a little push &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CCD,

Seamus is so corrupt that cool-aid hath no power over him! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCD,</p>
<p>Seamus is so corrupt that cool-aid hath no power over him! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CCD</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CCD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Megalomaniac Reverend Jim Jones does display a similar tone and delivery to Sociopath Governor Blagojevich.  I had to turn off the vid when Jones says, if they won&#039;t let us live in piece, then we can die in peace.  

Seamus if you&#039;re in town don&#039;t drink the cool-aid!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megalomaniac Reverend Jim Jones does display a similar tone and delivery to Sociopath Governor Blagojevich.  I had to turn off the vid when Jones says, if they won&#8217;t let us live in piece, then we can die in peace.  </p>
<p>Seamus if you&#8217;re in town don&#8217;t drink the cool-aid!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the who does Blago look like front my nomination is the Reverend
Jim Jones, of Jonestown infamy. Put sunglasses on Blago and it&#039;s the same man. Get a YouTube of some of Jones&#039; speeches and their manner of speaking is eerily similar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the who does Blago look like front my nomination is the Reverend<br />
Jim Jones, of Jonestown infamy. Put sunglasses on Blago and it&#8217;s the same man. Get a YouTube of some of Jones&#8217; speeches and their manner of speaking is eerily similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34196</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CCD, as the old joke goes in Chi, I myself have directed in my will that I be buried in my native Boston so that I can continue to vote Democratic long after I die.

Vote, early and often!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCD, as the old joke goes in Chi, I myself have directed in my will that I be buried in my native Boston so that I can continue to vote Democratic long after I die.</p>
<p>Vote, early and often!</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Treacy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Treacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting, an IL State Rep told Olbermann last night that the new legislature will hold another vote on impeachment next week, so that Blago uniquely will be impeached twice in one week.  I think this indicates that the Senate votes for conviction are very solid.

I thought the House Republicans who voted to impeach Clinton back in 1998 should have put off their vote until 1999, when a new Congress was seated, or at least should have held a new vote after the voters had spoken.  But instead they charged ahead with charges so weak that they could not even get a majority in a Republican-controlled Senate, let alone the necessaryh 2/3ds. 

I don&#039;t think the IL legislators are making that mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, an IL State Rep told Olbermann last night that the new legislature will hold another vote on impeachment next week, so that Blago uniquely will be impeached twice in one week.  I think this indicates that the Senate votes for conviction are very solid.</p>
<p>I thought the House Republicans who voted to impeach Clinton back in 1998 should have put off their vote until 1999, when a new Congress was seated, or at least should have held a new vote after the voters had spoken.  But instead they charged ahead with charges so weak that they could not even get a majority in a Republican-controlled Senate, let alone the necessaryh 2/3ds. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the IL legislators are making that mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CCD:

I think Reid will cave if Obama wants him to do to get the thing over with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCD:</p>
<p>I think Reid will cave if Obama wants him to do to get the thing over with.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob, Esq.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biblical proportions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biblical proportions.</p>
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		<title>By: CCD</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CCD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, indulge one more press account summing up Governor Blagojevich.  The full article is here: 

http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&amp;title=Illinois+first+lady+scrutinized+before+husband+arrested+-+CNN.com&amp;expire=-1&amp;urlID=33056716&amp;fb=Y&amp;url


Dick Mell is the Governors father in-law.  This quote is from the above link, the interview is  from approximately 2006.

Mell, in an interview with the Chicago-Sun Times, castigated Rod Blagojevich as someone who &quot;uses everybody, and when there&#039;s no more use, he discards them.&quot; Mell further said that his daughter was wearing &quot;blinders&quot; and didn&#039;t realize her husband was a manipulative political animal who would &quot;throw anyone under the bus.&quot;

This show will not be over until some how Patty Mell Blagojevich lands under a bus.  Having been tossed there by here husband.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, indulge one more press account summing up Governor Blagojevich.  The full article is here: </p>
<p><a href="http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&#038;title=Illinois+first+lady+scrutinized+before+husband+arrested+-+CNN.com&#038;expire=-1&#038;urlID=33056716&#038;fb=Y&#038;url" rel="nofollow">http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&#038;title=Illinois+first+lady+scrutinized+before+husband+arrested+-+CNN.com&#038;expire=-1&#038;urlID=33056716&#038;fb=Y&#038;url</a></p>
<p>Dick Mell is the Governors father in-law.  This quote is from the above link, the interview is  from approximately 2006.</p>
<p>Mell, in an interview with the Chicago-Sun Times, castigated Rod Blagojevich as someone who &#8220;uses everybody, and when there&#8217;s no more use, he discards them.&#8221; Mell further said that his daughter was wearing &#8220;blinders&#8221; and didn&#8217;t realize her husband was a manipulative political animal who would &#8220;throw anyone under the bus.&#8221;</p>
<p>This show will not be over until some how Patty Mell Blagojevich lands under a bus.  Having been tossed there by here husband.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34087</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always liked:  &quot;dogs and cats living together&quot; when Bill Murray was explaining signs of the apocalypse in Ghostbusters, but the resemblance w/Bluto is an excellent catch Vince.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always liked:  &#8220;dogs and cats living together&#8221; when Bill Murray was explaining signs of the apocalypse in Ghostbusters, but the resemblance w/Bluto is an excellent catch Vince.</p>
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		<title>By: CCD</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34086</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CCD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vince T. you are so right about Blagojevich. Back in December, I stopped in the offices of my Illinois State Rep. Just to personally convey the message that Blagojevich needed to be crushed. He&#039;s like a terminator.  His wife and two daughters will be well taken care of by Chicago Alderman Dick Mell, (Blagojevich’s father in-law) when his federally authorized vacation day arrives.  

Yes maybe something with Burris’ testimony about his contacts with the governors’ staff will get traction.  Oh the wicked web we weave.  Then the Nixon quote, it’s not the crime that brings you down; it’s the lies you tell to cover it up.   

FFLEO your assumption is accurate, as customary.  I’m trying to tuck into formation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vince T. you are so right about Blagojevich. Back in December, I stopped in the offices of my Illinois State Rep. Just to personally convey the message that Blagojevich needed to be crushed. He&#8217;s like a terminator.  His wife and two daughters will be well taken care of by Chicago Alderman Dick Mell, (Blagojevich’s father in-law) when his federally authorized vacation day arrives.  </p>
<p>Yes maybe something with Burris’ testimony about his contacts with the governors’ staff will get traction.  Oh the wicked web we weave.  Then the Nixon quote, it’s not the crime that brings you down; it’s the lies you tell to cover it up.   </p>
<p>FFLEO your assumption is accurate, as customary.  I’m trying to tuck into formation.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[V.T.

I never saw Animal House so I went to dependable YouTube and I agree with you; perfect match.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V.T.</p>
<p>I never saw Animal House so I went to dependable YouTube and I agree with you; perfect match.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Treacy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Treacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t help it.  Blago is a dead ringer for Bluto in Animal House.  After he is convicted and removed by the Senate, I am expecting this at his press conference:

&quot;Over? Did you say &quot;over&quot;? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help it.  Blago is a dead ringer for Bluto in Animal House.  After he is convicted and removed by the Senate, I am expecting this at his press conference:</p>
<p>&#8220;Over? Did you say &#8220;over&#8221;? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFLEO,

Thanks for the link!

&quot;We note ... that nothing in the published rules of the Senate, including Rule II, appears to require that Senate appointments made by state executives pursuant to the 17th Amendment must be signed and sealed by the state&#039;s secretary of state. Moreover, no explanation has been given as to how any rule of the Senate, whether it be formal or merely a matter of tradition, could supersede the authority to fill vacancies conferred on the states by the federal constitution.&quot;

I&#039;m guessing Burris is seated.   


CCD

Also thanks for info and what you wrote earlier.  I&#039;m glad you post to this blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFLEO,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link!</p>
<p>&#8220;We note &#8230; that nothing in the published rules of the Senate, including Rule II, appears to require that Senate appointments made by state executives pursuant to the 17th Amendment must be signed and sealed by the state&#8217;s secretary of state. Moreover, no explanation has been given as to how any rule of the Senate, whether it be formal or merely a matter of tradition, could supersede the authority to fill vacancies conferred on the states by the federal constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing Burris is seated.   </p>
<p>CCD</p>
<p>Also thanks for info and what you wrote earlier.  I&#8217;m glad you post to this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Treacy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34079</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Treacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Take a look at the letters signed by the State Governors for all the newly elected Senators at this session.
It includes the letter certifying the election of Sen. Durbin, signed by no other than Blago.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2009_record&amp;page=S1&amp;position=all

All the letters are signed by a Governor and have the state seal, but they do not have the signatures of the secretaries of state.

The court said at the end of its opinion that anyone can get a copy of Blago&#039;s appoinment document with the State&#039;s seal affixed to it.  Burris could get one of these and take it to the Senate.

Although Senate Rule II requires the signature of the Secretary of State, that requirement is not based on the 17th Amendment to the Constitution, and some have said it may be an extra-Constitutional &quot;qualification&quot; in violation of the Powell case.

As noted earlier, the Senate seems to have the power under the rule making clause of the Constitution both to make this Rule, and to waive it.

So the Senate could vote to seat him.  

But keep watching the skies.  Burris is tangled up in his testimony about his contacts with Blago&#039;s staff about the Senate seat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at the letters signed by the State Governors for all the newly elected Senators at this session.<br />
It includes the letter certifying the election of Sen. Durbin, signed by no other than Blago.</p>
<p><a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2009_record&#038;page=S1&#038;position=all" rel="nofollow">http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2009_record&#038;page=S1&#038;position=all</a></p>
<p>All the letters are signed by a Governor and have the state seal, but they do not have the signatures of the secretaries of state.</p>
<p>The court said at the end of its opinion that anyone can get a copy of Blago&#8217;s appoinment document with the State&#8217;s seal affixed to it.  Burris could get one of these and take it to the Senate.</p>
<p>Although Senate Rule II requires the signature of the Secretary of State, that requirement is not based on the 17th Amendment to the Constitution, and some have said it may be an extra-Constitutional &#8220;qualification&#8221; in violation of the Powell case.</p>
<p>As noted earlier, the Senate seems to have the power under the rule making clause of the Constitution both to make this Rule, and to waive it.</p>
<p>So the Senate could vote to seat him.  </p>
<p>But keep watching the skies.  Burris is tangled up in his testimony about his contacts with Blago&#8217;s staff about the Senate seat.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason I like the decision is that the court answered my questioning of why a court with jurisdiction could not issue a writ of mandamus to ‘compel’ the Secretary of State to sign the document.

“Under these circumstances, the Senate&#039;s actions cannot serve as the predicate for a mandamus action against the secretary of state. The only issue before us is whether the secretary of state, an official of this state, failed to perform an act required of him by the law of Illinois. He did not.&quot;

chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/01/state-court-rebuffs-burris-on-senate-signature.html

CCD:  I assume that you are that Democrat fellow from a county called Cook somewhere in Illinois?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I like the decision is that the court answered my questioning of why a court with jurisdiction could not issue a writ of mandamus to ‘compel’ the Secretary of State to sign the document.</p>
<p>“Under these circumstances, the Senate&#8217;s actions cannot serve as the predicate for a mandamus action against the secretary of state. The only issue before us is whether the secretary of state, an official of this state, failed to perform an act required of him by the law of Illinois. He did not.&#8221;</p>
<p>chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/01/state-court-rebuffs-burris-on-senate-signature.html</p>
<p>CCD:  I assume that you are that Democrat fellow from a county called Cook somewhere in Illinois?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One would hardly know there was an economic crisis that might be better time/money well spent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would hardly know there was an economic crisis that might be better time/money well spent.</p>
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		<title>By: CCD</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CCD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Writ denied because it isn&#039;t required.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Writ denied because it isn&#8217;t required.</p>
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		<title>By: CCD</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CCD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks like Senator Reid has to seat Burris now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Senator Reid has to seat Burris now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I must admit that I had to Google &#039;One First Street, NE&#039;!

Thanks for the lesson mespo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I must admit that I had to Google &#8216;One First Street, NE&#8217;!</p>
<p>Thanks for the lesson mespo.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, sweet vindication?.....

I enjoy watching government unfold like this.  Great civics lessons for today&#039;s school kids.  My 1950s/60s lessons were never so interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, sweet vindication?&#8230;..</p>
<p>I enjoy watching government unfold like this.  Great civics lessons for today&#8217;s school kids.  My 1950s/60s lessons were never so interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: CCD</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CCD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mespo

Do you think Senator Reid will fold and seat Burris?

Supreme court of Illinois.

http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/SupremeCourt/2009/January/107816.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mespo</p>
<p>Do you think Senator Reid will fold and seat Burris?</p>
<p>Supreme court of Illinois.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/SupremeCourt/2009/January/107816.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.state.il.us/court/Opinions/SupremeCourt/2009/January/107816.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34064</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFLeo:

Just read the article. I love it. The Illinois Supremes won&#039;t require the Sect&#039;y of State (SS) to sign nor does it even require the signature for the certificate to be valid, and the US Senate will not seat him without the certificate signed by the SS under their authority to serve as the &quot;Judge&quot; of &quot;elections and returns.&quot;  This sets up quite a power struggle should the Senate Dems stand fast. We may be off to One First Street, NE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFLeo:</p>
<p>Just read the article. I love it. The Illinois Supremes won&#8217;t require the Sect&#8217;y of State (SS) to sign nor does it even require the signature for the certificate to be valid, and the US Senate will not seat him without the certificate signed by the SS under their authority to serve as the &#8220;Judge&#8221; of &#8220;elections and returns.&#8221;  This sets up quite a power struggle should the Senate Dems stand fast. We may be off to One First Street, NE.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFLeo:

Great grab.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFLeo:</p>
<p>Great grab.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Illinois Supreme Court today rejected Roland Burris&#039; effort to get the signature he needs to complete his appointment to the U.S. Senate.&quot;

I know Professor Turley will start a new post on this topic but I wanted to update this this thread for completeness.

Whoever said politics was not interesting...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Illinois Supreme Court today rejected Roland Burris&#8217; effort to get the signature he needs to complete his appointment to the U.S. Senate.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know Professor Turley will start a new post on this topic but I wanted to update this this thread for completeness.</p>
<p>Whoever said politics was not interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CCD</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34057</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CCD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Illinois Legislative wheels of justice are greased and in motion. 

Illinois House Votes to Impeach Blagojevich.

State Senate trial, then the feds.  Justice for all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Illinois Legislative wheels of justice are greased and in motion. </p>
<p>Illinois House Votes to Impeach Blagojevich.</p>
<p>State Senate trial, then the feds.  Justice for all!</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-34047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Burris has at least 1 &quot;characteristic&quot; of a politician down pat.
________________________________________________

From HuffPo:

{Quote}:

&quot;Inches away from securing a seat in the United States Senate, Roland Burris suffered what could be a serious setback on Thursday. 

Appearing before an Illinois House impeachment committee, Burris acknowledged that he had reached out to a close friend and former chief of staff to embattled Gov. Rod Blagojevich to discuss the Senate seat. That appears to contradict Burris&#039; statement in a sworn affidavit that he had no contact with any of the governor&#039;s &quot;representatives.&quot; The former chief of staff, Alonzo Monk, is named as &quot;Lobbyist 1&quot; in the criminal complaint, and ran Blagojevich&#039;s most recent reelection campaign.&quot; {End Quote}

huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/08/burris-admits-he-reached_n_156421.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Burris has at least 1 &#8220;characteristic&#8221; of a politician down pat.<br />
________________________________________________</p>
<p>From HuffPo:</p>
<p>{Quote}:</p>
<p>&#8220;Inches away from securing a seat in the United States Senate, Roland Burris suffered what could be a serious setback on Thursday. </p>
<p>Appearing before an Illinois House impeachment committee, Burris acknowledged that he had reached out to a close friend and former chief of staff to embattled Gov. Rod Blagojevich to discuss the Senate seat. That appears to contradict Burris&#8217; statement in a sworn affidavit that he had no contact with any of the governor&#8217;s &#8220;representatives.&#8221; The former chief of staff, Alonzo Monk, is named as &#8220;Lobbyist 1&#8243; in the criminal complaint, and ran Blagojevich&#8217;s most recent reelection campaign.&#8221; {End Quote}</p>
<p>huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/08/burris-admits-he-reached_n_156421.html</p>
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		<title>By: Cook County Dem</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-33963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cook County Dem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check, 86 the lists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check, 86 the lists.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-33959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patty C,

I think Cook County Dem inadvertently missed your name in the list since that happened to 2 others who contributed.  This is one of the best single treads around because of the cordiality and information presented.  That is the most important reason I access JT’s blawg.

CC Dem did state, “Sincerest appreciation to *all* who’ve posted above.”

I seldom make such lists because I will invariably leave someone off who posted on a long thread.  I second the acknowledgement that I appreciated your contributions along with “all who’ve posted above.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C,</p>
<p>I think Cook County Dem inadvertently missed your name in the list since that happened to 2 others who contributed.  This is one of the best single treads around because of the cordiality and information presented.  That is the most important reason I access JT’s blawg.</p>
<p>CC Dem did state, “Sincerest appreciation to *all* who’ve posted above.”</p>
<p>I seldom make such lists because I will invariably leave someone off who posted on a long thread.  I second the acknowledgement that I appreciated your contributions along with “all who’ve posted above.”</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-33954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cook County Dem   1, January 7, 2009 at 11:33 pm

No I know. Former Fed said it best, “Reasonable lawyers most likely abhor and shun a career in political life.”
----
I will take that as a ultimate compliment despite your inadvertent oversight in not including me in your &#039;list&#039;.

By the way, I intentionally did not answer your query, weeks ago,
as to how you could assist me (and my team) in the prosecution of Bush et al.

As I stated, I don&#039;t enjoy being &#039;used&#039;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cook County Dem   1, January 7, 2009 at 11:33 pm</p>
<p>No I know. Former Fed said it best, “Reasonable lawyers most likely abhor and shun a career in political life.”<br />
&#8212;-<br />
I will take that as a ultimate compliment despite your inadvertent oversight in not including me in your &#8216;list&#8217;.</p>
<p>By the way, I intentionally did not answer your query, weeks ago,<br />
as to how you could assist me (and my team) in the prosecution of Bush et al.</p>
<p>As I stated, I don&#8217;t enjoy being &#8216;used&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: THE COLUMN::What A Mess &#124; The Political Panorama</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-33884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[THE COLUMN::What A Mess &#124; The Political Panorama]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] work for the first time this Tuesday, he was barred entrance to the Senate chamber. Legal scholar Jonathan Turley wrote on his blog that it was “one of the most dramatic moments in Senate history.” He also noted that it was a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] work for the first time this Tuesday, he was barred entrance to the Senate chamber. Legal scholar Jonathan Turley wrote on his blog that it was “one of the most dramatic moments in Senate history.” He also noted that it was a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CEJ</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-33860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CEJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was a good read; Thank-you all!

Gyges- Happy Birthday to your little one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a good read; Thank-you all!</p>
<p>Gyges- Happy Birthday to your little one!</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-33857</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CCD,
Former Fed hit one out of the park on that one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CCD,<br />
Former Fed hit one out of the park on that one!</p>
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		<title>By: Cook County Dem</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-33856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cook County Dem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No I know.  Former Fed said it best, &quot;Reasonable lawyers most likely abhor and shun a career in political life.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I know.  Former Fed said it best, &#8220;Reasonable lawyers most likely abhor and shun a career in political life.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/06/ill-huff-and-ill-puff-democrats-block-burris-from-entering-senate/#comment-33855</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cook County Dem,
I think that you and I may be the only Illinois residents in the list that you provided above, and if that is correct, you better get your resume ready because I am not interested in moving to Springfield.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cook County Dem,<br />
I think that you and I may be the only Illinois residents in the list that you provided above, and if that is correct, you better get your resume ready because I am not interested in moving to Springfield.</p>
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		<title>By: Cook County Dem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cook County Dem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sincerest appreciation to all who’ve posted above.  Phenomenally grounded insights, really brilliant, bravo and thanks.    

rafflaw
Former Federal LEO
Bob, Esq.
mespo727272
Vince Treacy
Mike Appleton
Jill
Mike Spindell
Gyges
Mojo
MASkeptic
rcampbell
JT

Now would anyone of you like to run for governor of Illinois?  The position will be available soon!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sincerest appreciation to all who’ve posted above.  Phenomenally grounded insights, really brilliant, bravo and thanks.    </p>
<p>rafflaw<br />
Former Federal LEO<br />
Bob, Esq.<br />
mespo727272<br />
Vince Treacy<br />
Mike Appleton<br />
Jill<br />
Mike Spindell<br />
Gyges<br />
Mojo<br />
MASkeptic<br />
rcampbell<br />
JT</p>
<p>Now would anyone of you like to run for governor of Illinois?  The position will be available soon!</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Former Fed,
Any of the JT bloggers could reason their way through the issue(except fot the trolls, of course)!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former Fed,<br />
Any of the JT bloggers could reason their way through the issue(except fot the trolls, of course)!</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rhetorically, I often wonder why congresspersons—many of whom are attorneys—are incapable of reasoning like those who post within this forum; except that reasonable lawyers most likely abhor and shun a career in political life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhetorically, I often wonder why congresspersons—many of whom are attorneys—are incapable of reasoning like those who post within this forum; except that reasonable lawyers most likely abhor and shun a career in political life.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob, Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob, Esq.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mespo:

Erwin Chemerinsky is repeating the mantra but avoiding the issue about the scope of the Senate’s discretion here. He quite properly says, “But the Supreme Court has been clear that these words do not bestow on the House or the Senate unfettered discretion in deciding whom to seat.” The question though is what discretion does the Constitution bestow.&quot; 

The Constitution grants no discretion.  And rightly so, because, as the Court cited in Powell, such discretion would be:

“an improper &amp; dangerous power in the Legislature. The qualifications of electors and elected were fundamental articles in a Republican Govt. and ought to be fixed by the Constitution. If the Legislature could regulate those of either, it can by degrees subvert the Constitution. A Republic may be converted into an aristocracy or oligarchy as well by limiting the number capable of being elected, as the number authorised to elect. . . . It was a power also, which might be made subservient to the views of one faction agst. another. Qualifications founded on artificial distinctions may be devised, by the stronger in order to keep out partizans of [a weaker] faction.”

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_3_3s1.html

&quot;If the Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2) means anything, the Senate must have the discretion to apply its own standards to state determinations of eligibility for its membership based on the Constitutional principles we have seen eloquently articulated on this thread by the other contributors.&quot;

Article VI may not be used to increase or expand the powers specifically delegated within Articles I, II, or III.  Why?  Because Article V says so: 

“In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and the Senate combined.&quot; See REID v. COVERT, 354 U.S. 1 (1957)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mespo:</p>
<p>Erwin Chemerinsky is repeating the mantra but avoiding the issue about the scope of the Senate’s discretion here. He quite properly says, “But the Supreme Court has been clear that these words do not bestow on the House or the Senate unfettered discretion in deciding whom to seat.” The question though is what discretion does the Constitution bestow.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Constitution grants no discretion.  And rightly so, because, as the Court cited in Powell, such discretion would be:</p>
<p>“an improper &amp; dangerous power in the Legislature. The qualifications of electors and elected were fundamental articles in a Republican Govt. and ought to be fixed by the Constitution. If the Legislature could regulate those of either, it can by degrees subvert the Constitution. A Republic may be converted into an aristocracy or oligarchy as well by limiting the number capable of being elected, as the number authorised to elect. . . . It was a power also, which might be made subservient to the views of one faction agst. another. Qualifications founded on artificial distinctions may be devised, by the stronger in order to keep out partizans of [a weaker] faction.”</p>
<p><a href="http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_3_3s1.html" rel="nofollow">http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_3_3s1.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;If the Supremacy Clause (Article VI, Clause 2) means anything, the Senate must have the discretion to apply its own standards to state determinations of eligibility for its membership based on the Constitutional principles we have seen eloquently articulated on this thread by the other contributors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Article VI may not be used to increase or expand the powers specifically delegated within Articles I, II, or III.  Why?  Because Article V says so: </p>
<p>“In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and the Senate combined.&#8221; See REID v. COVERT, 354 U.S. 1 (1957)</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mespo727272   1, January 7, 2009 at 3:16 pm

Mike Appleton:

I think you forgot “(d)” which is the Democrats will have shown themselves to have acted in accord with the public’s wishes according to the recent polls and will have been seen as trying to stop corruption. It’s not bad to have fought for the right and lost; it’s bad to not have fought at all.
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Well said. 

I would have preferred to see Burris truly &#039;lead&#039; in part by getting out of his own way. He reminds me of Nixon when he says 
&#039;I AM&#039; the junior Senator from Illinois&quot;.

It would have been fun to see Blago try to appoint himself, but I&#039;m enjoying watching Burris shoot himself in the foot, too. The Senate- not so much. There&#039;s NO haggling over Senate seats, but I doubt Reid need be concerned about Burris in 2010.

Vince, I predict a lot of states will be reconsidering their interim appointment rules.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mespo727272   1, January 7, 2009 at 3:16 pm</p>
<p>Mike Appleton:</p>
<p>I think you forgot “(d)” which is the Democrats will have shown themselves to have acted in accord with the public’s wishes according to the recent polls and will have been seen as trying to stop corruption. It’s not bad to have fought for the right and lost; it’s bad to not have fought at all.<br />
&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Well said. </p>
<p>I would have preferred to see Burris truly &#8216;lead&#8217; in part by getting out of his own way. He reminds me of Nixon when he says<br />
&#8216;I AM&#8217; the junior Senator from Illinois&#8221;.</p>
<p>It would have been fun to see Blago try to appoint himself, but I&#8217;m enjoying watching Burris shoot himself in the foot, too. The Senate- not so much. There&#8217;s NO haggling over Senate seats, but I doubt Reid need be concerned about Burris in 2010.</p>
<p>Vince, I predict a lot of states will be reconsidering their interim appointment rules.</p>
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