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	<title>Comments on: Mein Kake:  Adolf Hitler Seized in New Jersey</title>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[universe man:

&quot;Hitler was a fantastic leader outside the racism and no amount of white washing will change that.&quot;

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And that performance of &quot;Our American Cousin,&quot; on April 14, 1865 was magnifique except for that nasty incident in President Lincoln&#039;s box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>universe man:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hitler was a fantastic leader outside the racism and no amount of white washing will change that.&#8221;</p>
<p>**************</p>
<p>And that performance of &#8220;Our American Cousin,&#8221; on April 14, 1865 was magnifique except for that nasty incident in President Lincoln&#8217;s box.</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-79366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[billy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look at his &quot;eyes&quot;, even when he is fulminating his &quot;eyes&quot; are dead and lifeless, like a dolls eyes....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at his &#8220;eyes&#8221;, even when he is fulminating his &#8220;eyes&#8221; are dead and lifeless, like a dolls eyes&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-79365</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[billy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hitler was an evil, yet mesmerizing force of malignancy....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitler was an evil, yet mesmerizing force of malignancy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-79279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the end of WWII, I bet this is the single most unpopular name in America. Maybe all of Europe...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the end of WWII, I bet this is the single most unpopular name in America. Maybe all of Europe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Byron</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-79124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Byron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[universe man:

&quot;Hitler was a fantastic leader&quot;  are you high on crack?  He was a dictator, a tyrannt, a malicious force in the world yes, a fantastic leader I dont think so.

By your logic then Dr. Mengele should have been given the Noble Prize for Medicine.

I would like for you to tell me why you think Hitler was a fantastic leader?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>universe man:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hitler was a fantastic leader&#8221;  are you high on crack?  He was a dictator, a tyrannt, a malicious force in the world yes, a fantastic leader I dont think so.</p>
<p>By your logic then Dr. Mengele should have been given the Noble Prize for Medicine.</p>
<p>I would like for you to tell me why you think Hitler was a fantastic leader?</p>
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		<title>By: Universe Man.</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-79117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Universe Man.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right.  So lets start banning the use of George.  Or Richard.  Or any other name related to someone who has caused harm to your silly world.  Hitler was a fantastic leader outside the racism and no amount of white washing will change that.  Hitler may have had stupid reasons for killing millions of people, but so did many kings over the years.  So did.. (still, even) the American leaders.  The idea that a name is a reason to stop these people from keeping their children is infantile and, as i said earlier, white-washing.  I can haz extinction plox?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right.  So lets start banning the use of George.  Or Richard.  Or any other name related to someone who has caused harm to your silly world.  Hitler was a fantastic leader outside the racism and no amount of white washing will change that.  Hitler may have had stupid reasons for killing millions of people, but so did many kings over the years.  So did.. (still, even) the American leaders.  The idea that a name is a reason to stop these people from keeping their children is infantile and, as i said earlier, white-washing.  I can haz extinction plox?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacen8634</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-38894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacen8634]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in the country i was born in, the name Nguyen Anh Hung is a very meaningful name, my parents gaved that name to me at birth and raised me well, they taught me almost everything i need to know about life, even tho i used to be ashamed by that name while i was growing up in hawaii, im still glad it was them that raised me and not someone else, my parents cherished me from day one for all i can remember, and when ever something happened to me, they worry SICK so thats why im hardly ever in trouble, to keep them happy

If someone were to take me, and my siblings away from my parents because of the name they gaved us, i would definitely grow up with hatred of the messed up world im in, but to be realistic, if i were to get taken away at such a young age for reasons i dont even know of, and once i find out of what that reason was, i would be pissed off to the max(especially if i didn&#039;t like where/who/and how the fake-parents raise me) Fuck! seriously, what the fuck?!?!?! just thinking about taking someone&#039;s else kids away for their names just keep pissing me off, im sorry, im trying to express what i think of this article in a calm way but i just cant hold the anger inside with the thoughts of being taken away from my parents at such a young age for reasons i didnt understand, if anything, the KIDs should decide when they grow up, who the fuck tells who they can or cant name their sons or daughters this and that?!?!?!? fucking messed up piece of shit!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in the country i was born in, the name Nguyen Anh Hung is a very meaningful name, my parents gaved that name to me at birth and raised me well, they taught me almost everything i need to know about life, even tho i used to be ashamed by that name while i was growing up in hawaii, im still glad it was them that raised me and not someone else, my parents cherished me from day one for all i can remember, and when ever something happened to me, they worry SICK so thats why im hardly ever in trouble, to keep them happy</p>
<p>If someone were to take me, and my siblings away from my parents because of the name they gaved us, i would definitely grow up with hatred of the messed up world im in, but to be realistic, if i were to get taken away at such a young age for reasons i dont even know of, and once i find out of what that reason was, i would be pissed off to the max(especially if i didn&#8217;t like where/who/and how the fake-parents raise me) Fuck! seriously, what the fuck?!?!?! just thinking about taking someone&#8217;s else kids away for their names just keep pissing me off, im sorry, im trying to express what i think of this article in a calm way but i just cant hold the anger inside with the thoughts of being taken away from my parents at such a young age for reasons i didnt understand, if anything, the KIDs should decide when they grow up, who the fuck tells who they can or cant name their sons or daughters this and that?!?!?!? fucking messed up piece of shit!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that there are names that one should know better than to give to their children. If you aren&#039;t smart enough to know that the name Adolf Hitler is going to make a child a target for harassment, then maybe you shouldn&#039;t have children. 

I&#039;m with Rafflaw on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that there are names that one should know better than to give to their children. If you aren&#8217;t smart enough to know that the name Adolf Hitler is going to make a child a target for harassment, then maybe you shouldn&#8217;t have children. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Rafflaw on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34901</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to point out that Rip&#039;s name is his choice.  And a cool name.  Honestly, I&#039;m a little jealous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to point out that Rip&#8217;s name is his choice.  And a cool name.  Honestly, I&#8217;m a little jealous.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hansen</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Hansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Moon Unit&quot;
&quot;Rip Torn&quot;
&quot;Peter Goesinya&quot;
&quot;Rock Hardon&quot;
&quot;Filbert Fullup&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Moon Unit&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Rip Torn&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Peter Goesinya&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Rock Hardon&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Filbert Fullup&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buddha,
you are correct about legislating for stupidity. I do have my doubts about any parent that would name their child, Adolf Hitler.  The government may not be able to ever legislate enough for these mental giants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddha,<br />
you are correct about legislating for stupidity. I do have my doubts about any parent that would name their child, Adolf Hitler.  The government may not be able to ever legislate enough for these mental giants.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be clear, I didn&#039;t say it was abuse rising to the level of taking the children, merely that it was abusive.  You can only legislate stupidity so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, I didn&#8217;t say it was abuse rising to the level of taking the children, merely that it was abusive.  You can only legislate stupidity so much.</p>
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		<title>By: swg63</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swg63]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are kidding right???? While I disagree with the parents on the naming of their children.This is clearly wrong to take the children away for this reason.
What would hasppen if they had named the child &quot;Horse SH(manure)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are kidding right???? While I disagree with the parents on the naming of their children.This is clearly wrong to take the children away for this reason.<br />
What would hasppen if they had named the child &#8220;Horse SH(manure)</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be accurate, I didn&#039;t state that the names alone would be evidence of child abuse.  I have no problem with the parents having the right to name their children any name that they want, but wouldn&#039;t it be reasonable that giving children those names could be evidence that these parents might be doing some stupid and illegal things with these kids.  I would not want to stop any parents from having the right to name their kids.  But doesn&#039;t the state child welfare agency have the right to look into the parents handling of these kids if it thinks there are valid abuse issues present?  If a parent named their daughter Clitoris,would that be evidence that the parents might not be handling their parental duties properly?  I hope I not giving any parents any name ideas here!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be accurate, I didn&#8217;t state that the names alone would be evidence of child abuse.  I have no problem with the parents having the right to name their children any name that they want, but wouldn&#8217;t it be reasonable that giving children those names could be evidence that these parents might be doing some stupid and illegal things with these kids.  I would not want to stop any parents from having the right to name their kids.  But doesn&#8217;t the state child welfare agency have the right to look into the parents handling of these kids if it thinks there are valid abuse issues present?  If a parent named their daughter Clitoris,would that be evidence that the parents might not be handling their parental duties properly?  I hope I not giving any parents any name ideas here!!</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFLeo:

&quot;I take the 5th…&quot;
***************

Me too. Make it Dewars Signature Scotch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFLeo:</p>
<p>&#8220;I take the 5th…&#8221;<br />
***************</p>
<p>Me too. Make it Dewars Signature Scotch.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34840</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take the 5th...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take the 5th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFLEO,

Either

Great minds think alike.

Or

Madness likes company.

:D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFLEO,</p>
<p>Either</p>
<p>Great minds think alike.</p>
<p>Or</p>
<p>Madness likes company.<br />
 <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34820</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This should be a clear example of a violation of the parents’ First Amendment rights.  I try rigorously—although I sometimes fail—to couch every decision I render to fall within the context of the U.S. Constitution.  I do not profess more than a slightly above average understanding of the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the subsequent 17 Amendments.  My lack of knowledge regarding constitutional issues is one of the main reasons I access this blawg.  

I regard the Constitution as a beautiful and effective bias filter that focuses the rainbow of the myriad permutations and prismatic colors of human biases into an unbiased set of rules with which a democracy can thrive.  If we allow our personal and ideological biases to circumvent the sieve of constitutional rules, then tyranny, demagoguery, and injustice triumph at the expense of democracy. 
  
The parents have First Amendment rights to name their children whatsoever they like regardless of how repugnant others and I might consider those names.  Many of us are reminded of ‘the good, the bad, and the ugly” when hearing names.  Some may remember, “Your name is mud” as a direct reference to Dr. Samuel Mudd who was simply exercising his Hippocratic Oath when he treated John Wilkes Booth’s broken leg but he was convicted as Booth’s conspirator in Lincoln’s assassination.  Dr. Mudd did not know about the assassination; however, the name Mud(d) is always unfairly associated with a bad reputation. 

Recall and consider the names of any of the most heinous criminal names available throughout history.  Although others and I might not even broach the thought of giving our kids such names, other parents have the right to name their children after any war criminal, genocidal manic, or any other despicable or reviled persons to include, but not limited to:

John ‘Hideki Tōjō ‘Doe
Jane ‘Tokyo Rose’ Doe
Herkimer ‘Slobodan Milošević’ Smith
Sylvester ‘Pol Pot’ Jones 

I can assure you that although I have already procreated, if I had other sons I would under no circumstances name them after George Walker Bush, Dick Cheney, or Donald Rumsfeld et al. nor would I saddle my daughters with epithets of Sarah Louise Palin or Ann Coulter.

Buddha: I wrote about the Cheney/Bush names before I read your last statements above, so we agree with not using those names without any prior collaboration!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be a clear example of a violation of the parents’ First Amendment rights.  I try rigorously—although I sometimes fail—to couch every decision I render to fall within the context of the U.S. Constitution.  I do not profess more than a slightly above average understanding of the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the subsequent 17 Amendments.  My lack of knowledge regarding constitutional issues is one of the main reasons I access this blawg.  </p>
<p>I regard the Constitution as a beautiful and effective bias filter that focuses the rainbow of the myriad permutations and prismatic colors of human biases into an unbiased set of rules with which a democracy can thrive.  If we allow our personal and ideological biases to circumvent the sieve of constitutional rules, then tyranny, demagoguery, and injustice triumph at the expense of democracy. </p>
<p>The parents have First Amendment rights to name their children whatsoever they like regardless of how repugnant others and I might consider those names.  Many of us are reminded of ‘the good, the bad, and the ugly” when hearing names.  Some may remember, “Your name is mud” as a direct reference to Dr. Samuel Mudd who was simply exercising his Hippocratic Oath when he treated John Wilkes Booth’s broken leg but he was convicted as Booth’s conspirator in Lincoln’s assassination.  Dr. Mudd did not know about the assassination; however, the name Mud(d) is always unfairly associated with a bad reputation. </p>
<p>Recall and consider the names of any of the most heinous criminal names available throughout history.  Although others and I might not even broach the thought of giving our kids such names, other parents have the right to name their children after any war criminal, genocidal manic, or any other despicable or reviled persons to include, but not limited to:</p>
<p>John ‘Hideki Tōjō ‘Doe<br />
Jane ‘Tokyo Rose’ Doe<br />
Herkimer ‘Slobodan Milošević’ Smith<br />
Sylvester ‘Pol Pot’ Jones </p>
<p>I can assure you that although I have already procreated, if I had other sons I would under no circumstances name them after George Walker Bush, Dick Cheney, or Donald Rumsfeld et al. nor would I saddle my daughters with epithets of Sarah Louise Palin or Ann Coulter.</p>
<p>Buddha: I wrote about the Cheney/Bush names before I read your last statements above, so we agree with not using those names without any prior collaboration!</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me, but have any of you talked to a teenager recently?  The very definition of cruelty - especially to one another.  When these kids hit puberty, it is going to be the feces hitting the rotating oscillator.  To answer the question when is a name child abuse, it&#039;s simple.  If the name subjects one to discrimination, physical and/or emotional harm from others in specific and society as a whole then I think it&#039;s safe to draw a causal connection.  Abuse by social proxy is still abusive.  And patriotism, that last refuge of scoundrels, has nothing to with it although I think a better Russian example would have been Stalin.  Lenin was &quot;our enemy&quot; in the West, but he was just a man.  Stalin, like Hitler, was a monster.  Kids might taunt a kid named Lenin, he may even catch a beating or two, but I promise it&#039;s nothing like the shitstorm you&#039;d encounter being named Hitler or Stalin.  You might as well name the kid Lucifer or Kick Me In The Crotch.

For what it&#039;s worth, you&#039;ll be able to add George Bush to that list of socially unacceptable names before it&#039;s over with.  But he&#039;s a Lenin.  Name your kid Dick Cheney and see how well it works out.  Especially if she&#039;s a girl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, but have any of you talked to a teenager recently?  The very definition of cruelty &#8211; especially to one another.  When these kids hit puberty, it is going to be the feces hitting the rotating oscillator.  To answer the question when is a name child abuse, it&#8217;s simple.  If the name subjects one to discrimination, physical and/or emotional harm from others in specific and society as a whole then I think it&#8217;s safe to draw a causal connection.  Abuse by social proxy is still abusive.  And patriotism, that last refuge of scoundrels, has nothing to with it although I think a better Russian example would have been Stalin.  Lenin was &#8220;our enemy&#8221; in the West, but he was just a man.  Stalin, like Hitler, was a monster.  Kids might taunt a kid named Lenin, he may even catch a beating or two, but I promise it&#8217;s nothing like the shitstorm you&#8217;d encounter being named Hitler or Stalin.  You might as well name the kid Lucifer or Kick Me In The Crotch.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, you&#8217;ll be able to add George Bush to that list of socially unacceptable names before it&#8217;s over with.  But he&#8217;s a Lenin.  Name your kid Dick Cheney and see how well it works out.  Especially if she&#8217;s a girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahel</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ahel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We do not want the government intruding to tell parents what is best for their children. In this case, the name of the child is an acceptable means of government intrusion? If something so basic as a child&#039;s name is the basis for removing a child from a parent&#039;s custody, what about teaching children spiritual, moral, or political ideas deemed &quot;abusive&quot;? I am no apologist for these parents and adamantly disagree with their name selection, but this is dangerous territory for the government to step in. I do not think it would be correct if right-wing Republicans said it was child abuse to name a kid &quot;Lenin&quot;. Or, what stops a conservative state from clamping down on the private instruction of socialist/liberal ideas in a family&#039;s home because it psychologically &quot;abuses&quot; the child&#039;s patriotism, etc? Food for thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do not want the government intruding to tell parents what is best for their children. In this case, the name of the child is an acceptable means of government intrusion? If something so basic as a child&#8217;s name is the basis for removing a child from a parent&#8217;s custody, what about teaching children spiritual, moral, or political ideas deemed &#8220;abusive&#8221;? I am no apologist for these parents and adamantly disagree with their name selection, but this is dangerous territory for the government to step in. I do not think it would be correct if right-wing Republicans said it was child abuse to name a kid &#8220;Lenin&#8221;. Or, what stops a conservative state from clamping down on the private instruction of socialist/liberal ideas in a family&#8217;s home because it psychologically &#8220;abuses&#8221; the child&#8217;s patriotism, etc? Food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you M2L.   We have just seen a political campaign where right wing ideologues tried to link obama with saddam via the name, Hussein.  Practically speaking, this is also a bad decision.   

The white supremacist movement in part florishes because members are isolated from the rest of society.  If you never interact with the &quot;evil&quot; others, how will you ever find out that maybe, just maybe, those people aren&#039;t so &quot;evil&quot; afterall?  

In my opinion, any adult interacting with these children should go the extra mile to be caring, kind and supportive of them.  Their names should be looked at the same as any other child&#039;s name, a choice by the parents.  Taking them from their parents will affirm that &quot;outsider&quot; society is not to be trusted, that it is full of people who have a bad intent (just as many white supremacists proclaim).  That&#039;s a very bad message to convey.  

What I said above is based on the info I have, that it is the names alone that were the cause of the removal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you M2L.   We have just seen a political campaign where right wing ideologues tried to link obama with saddam via the name, Hussein.  Practically speaking, this is also a bad decision.   </p>
<p>The white supremacist movement in part florishes because members are isolated from the rest of society.  If you never interact with the &#8220;evil&#8221; others, how will you ever find out that maybe, just maybe, those people aren&#8217;t so &#8220;evil&#8221; afterall?  </p>
<p>In my opinion, any adult interacting with these children should go the extra mile to be caring, kind and supportive of them.  Their names should be looked at the same as any other child&#8217;s name, a choice by the parents.  Taking them from their parents will affirm that &#8220;outsider&#8221; society is not to be trusted, that it is full of people who have a bad intent (just as many white supremacists proclaim).  That&#8217;s a very bad message to convey.  </p>
<p>What I said above is based on the info I have, that it is the names alone that were the cause of the removal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mere 2L</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mere 2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By your logic anyone naming their kid &quot;Richard&quot; (for example) would be subject to child abuse charges because their children would be abused by their peers.  Society&#039;s reaction to a name is no grounds to take children away. What if it was an ethnic or religious name that an intolerant community did not like? This door should not be opened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By your logic anyone naming their kid &#8220;Richard&#8221; (for example) would be subject to child abuse charges because their children would be abused by their peers.  Society&#8217;s reaction to a name is no grounds to take children away. What if it was an ethnic or religious name that an intolerant community did not like? This door should not be opened.</p>
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		<title>By: wargalley20011</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wargalley20011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A name can determine your success in society. These children are going to be abused, and shunned by people. I have a terrible last name. ( Not as bad as these kids ) I don&#039;t have family history on how it came to be. All I can say is it&#039;s a name that would give people the wronge impression. I now feel to old to change it. I will use my wife&#039;s last name for the children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A name can determine your success in society. These children are going to be abused, and shunned by people. I have a terrible last name. ( Not as bad as these kids ) I don&#8217;t have family history on how it came to be. All I can say is it&#8217;s a name that would give people the wronge impression. I now feel to old to change it. I will use my wife&#8217;s last name for the children.</p>
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		<title>By: Mere 2L</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mere 2L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who should decide which names are child abuse?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who should decide which names are child abuse?</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look at the ages of the children.  If it&#039;s not child abuse now (which is questionable, they are too young to understand what&#039;s been done to them) it will be when they turn teenagers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the ages of the children.  If it&#8217;s not child abuse now (which is questionable, they are too young to understand what&#8217;s been done to them) it will be when they turn teenagers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/01/15/mein-kake-adolf-hitler-seized-in-new-jersey/#comment-34741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to be really judgemental here and say that the parents just look like complete idiots. Has anyone seen a video interview of those folks? They look like they&#039;re missing a few pieces of the puzzle. 

I agree with Rafflaw, I think the names are child abuse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to be really judgemental here and say that the parents just look like complete idiots. Has anyone seen a video interview of those folks? They look like they&#8217;re missing a few pieces of the puzzle. </p>
<p>I agree with Rafflaw, I think the names are child abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I made the comment when we first heard of this story that naming these children with these names was almost child abuse.  I don&#039;t know if just the stupid names alone would be enough for me to pull the kids from the parents, but I would expect that if they are putting these names on the kids there may be some stupid and dangerous things that these parents might be doing, or not doing.  I guess that is a long winded way of saying that these parents disturb me and I am frightened for the mental well being of these kids or any kids that are being raised by these thoughtless parents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I made the comment when we first heard of this story that naming these children with these names was almost child abuse.  I don&#8217;t know if just the stupid names alone would be enough for me to pull the kids from the parents, but I would expect that if they are putting these names on the kids there may be some stupid and dangerous things that these parents might be doing, or not doing.  I guess that is a long winded way of saying that these parents disturb me and I am frightened for the mental well being of these kids or any kids that are being raised by these thoughtless parents.</p>
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