“People who are interested in actually considering what others are saying, even when they disagree with each other, are equally obvious by virtue of their responses.”
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That’s ripe, Jill. You were the one who invited Bartlebee to stay over my stated objections to his foul language and insulting behavior the first time he posted here last Spring- because you were so interested in what he had to say about RELIGION – 24/7…on a Law blog.

Thanks for your ‘virtue’. Likewise, with regard to the other clones
CMM, Waynebro, Gaylord Focker, Bron98 and the other ’98%’.

I notice anytime I am part of the discussion and especially when I challenge you, on point, over some ignorant statement you make, you choose not to respond. Especially when it’s my field, Medicine. Classy…

I got a question, how much ‘drumming’ do they do in the Hindu religion? Oh, that’s right, your an A-theist. I forgot…

Pulease!

My desires matter not if they do not align with the greater good of the collective. I will henceforth be We98.

Sincerely,

We98

I concur in your analysis.

Buddha, he didn’t say what species of female he ‘owns’.
Thus my ‘Warthog Theory’.

You should have seen his hysterical Rumpelstiltskin imitation following that remark last night as ‘Bummer’… because, true to form, he didn’t ‘get it’.

I’m all done.

Thanks. Thoroughly discredited!!!

So all points proven, no further discrediting needed? Then by your request . . .

One lives to be of service.

Seconded.

Here’s my take on certain people who post on this site. It’s obvious that some people are not interested in an actual exchange of ideas. When a person keeps shifting their argument without responding to any points, no matter how well made (ie: Mike A. gave several very well laid out point by point arguments that were promptly ignored!) then, I think it’s time to just ignore those people’s posts. The same goes for people who offer not reason, but constant personal attacks. The weakness of these posters is obvious and speaks for itself. People who are interested in actually considering what others are saying, even when they disagree with each other, are equally obvious by virtue of their responses.

I think we do get distracted from real learning and discussion by responding to people who have a bad intent. Who cares about deliberately ignorant arguments? They don’t need to be refuted because they refute themselves. I’m wondering if we could all follow what rafflaw sugested and just concentrate on people who’s posts are sincere?

I just love to see the spittle run down your chin!

out of curiosity are you an organic collectivist or just one that believes in the power of the state over the individual?

not that either one is any different.

and yes there can be something wrong in listening to intelligent people when they say things that shows they dont even understand simple basic philosophic principles.

Noting compares to your weakness – willful stupidity and a desire to harm people for no reason but your own personal satisfaction. That makes you ignorant and evil.

You see the word “collectivist” and you freak out like the simpleton you are without having read the books in question. It’s obvious by your customary childish response.

How about you reading a book before criticizing it, dipshit? Not that it would make much difference since you’ve a demonstrated inability to comprehend even when presented with basic definitions let alone an entire book of conceptual thought. Quite frankly, your level of stupidity, it’s not very becoming even for a self-confessed redneck and worse – it’s repetitive dogmatic tripe. “Oh, he’s a Commie!” wtf. What is this, 1953? First, no one is a Communist anymore except the Russian versions of you, okay? You know, people stuck in the past with their head up their ass. Communism’s day is done, it was proven invalid just like Neoconservatism is about to be proven invalid. And lumping socialism and communism together? Really amateur night. Some of our strongest allies? They are socialist, Parliamentary democracies, some of which have MUCH higher standards of living than we do here. You’re a country boy. You never learned a chain’s only as strong as it’s weakest link? Rhetorical. You’ve proven you can’t learn. Second, your rails against the common good show what a fascist and elitist you really are. It’s all me me me with you. The reason you had to “buy a woman”? I’m betting a decent one wants to vomit after talking to you for ten minutes, you selfish little troll. Even worse, you’re a pseudo-intellectual. Pssst. Your lack of education is perpetually showing when you reference concepts and authors your posts show you clearly don’t understand. And being stupid? Not the kind of trait that gets taken seriously in government anymore . . . unless you support Bush and think Palin is the future. And last I looked, that’s about 15% of the population. Good luck with that. Disparaging anyone here with garbage like “the pitty is that most of these people are exceptionally bright and their views are listened to by people they interact with during daily activities” just shows the depths of your illness. Hm, smart people being listened to? Is that a threat to you? Who woulda thunk it! It was a full blown, dry-drunk, Fundamentalist moron being controlled by a fascist criminal that screwed the U.S. in the first place, breaking the law and the economy at the same time. Who would have thought that listening to smart people was worse than that?

Well, you obviously. That about says it all.

You have no stances you can defend. None. Not one. This is not an opinion. This is a fact proven time and again. Keep coming back to illustrate who we’ll be locking up and removing from any decision making processes or oversight positions when We the People clean house.

Basically the snarkishness of the individuals on this site can be summed up by Buddhas own words:

“If you want to know how I define liberty, read Jean-Jacques Rousseau. To save you time, I’m a collectivist.”

They argue for the rule of law and then for the collective. It cannot be both ways. Rousseau is pretty much resposible for the French Revolution and its ideas of Fraternity and Equality (He also was instrumental in Kants developement of his works on ethics, Kants work is the philosphical grandfather of Marx and Hitler). We all know what that was-mob rule. That is their idea of liberty, the rule of the mob against the individual or the rule of the state against the individual and they wrap up it up in a nice little package of protecting the constitution.

They are fundametally ignorant of what protects human rights or even the nature of those rights. They think that capitalism is a corrupt system while failing to even acknowledge that socialism/communism/collectivism does not even work and bankrupts countries and individuals. And the pitty is that most of these people are exceptionally bright and their views are listened to by people they interact with during daily activities (F.A. Hyack has an interesting article on the spread of ideas you can find it on the Mises website).

Thank you kind sir and doubly so for defending the honor of the Marines. An uncle was a Marine in Viet Nam and gave his life for this country. Semper Fi!

Its funny how much the media reports on Iraq when things are going poorly over there. Now that things have turned around and there is stability, its hardly being talked about.

why that is such a flatering picture of you, really shows off the nose ornament. Is that a JC Penny portait?

I bet you get asked to BBQ’s a lot.

U.S. Military confirmed deaths in Iraq 4235.
Iraqis deaths since 2003 estimated at 100,000.
U.S. Military casualties, medical air transports (hostile and non-hostile) 44,000.

The above is hideous… it gets worse:

PTSD
The Army Medical Corps is systematically mis-diagnosing PTSD war casualties as having a Personality Disorder, which then requires that these solders be given Chapter 5-13 discharges, which in turn disqualifies them from receiving any military medical or retirement benefits and which places them outside of the umbrella of Veterans Administration services.

Halliburton
Extended deployments
Army suicide rates at a thirty year high.
Number of manufacturing jobs lost since 2000: 3.78 million
National debt increase since 2000: $10.6 trillion

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ” Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, May 7, 1998, p. S4507.

Nothing against females, I own one.

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Here’s a theory – wait for it – warthog?

http://www.awf.org/files/3830_file_warthog_boulton.jpg

please read this article and let me know what you think:

http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2006-spring/just-war-theory.asp

MikeA:

I would be interested in your thoughts too.

And your colors are showing, chris, er, Bron, er, CCM. You are all so alike. Your type can only appear to be reasonable for so long before the jackboots come out. Might isn’t right. It’s a tool. And tough decision or not, wrong decisions have negative consequences. There is no point in fighting monsters if you become one.

And as far as any decisions I’ve made that affect others lives, you simply presume too much.

We are in agreement. I’ve read a little Islamic law. Scary stuff. Crazy scary. It’s so counter to not just our founding principles but those of many European and Asian cultures as well. I’ve often wondered if reconciliation among the various legal traditions is even possible with theocracy still on the table in any form.

There is a difference between a real conservative, like FFLEO, and the evil that has co-opted both the label “conservative” and the GOP it would seem. I like real actual conservatives. IRL and here too. We have things we do actually agree on. Two of those things are that equity means the law and the Constitution applies to all men, ALL, with no exception and that torture is a crime as defined by American jurisprudence. No, some forms of conservatism have admirable principles like fiscal conservatism – a principle that is now in obvious abandonment by those “conservatives”, the Neocons, who have driven not only this country but a once great party into the ditch. Eisenhower rocked. Since then, eh, not so good, but I digress. You want to know who I feel sorriest for as a “political group”? It’s not the Dems. It’s not the Indies. It’s people like FFLEO, people who stood by their party for YEARS trusting that the GOP was working in their best interests and for the common good only to find out, oops, I guess they weren’t! Base betrayal by people riding on their coattails. People who disagree with my arguments are not ipso facto anti-liberty or anti-liberal. Just one’s who tote the Neocon Propaganda Line, the revisionists, the apologists, the ones who think torture is just groovy and that Empire is some kind of game without consequence. Those people are not only anti-liberty and anti-liberal, they are anti-conservative and anti-American. A political cancer that must be pressed into omission or excised before the body politic dies. They chose propaganda as a tool? I know how to fight propaganda. With fact and logic or by making the purveyors of Neocon poison to destruct in public displays of the blackness in their hearts. To preserve liberty and the Constitution, it is my duty to fight it. As a man who believes in justice and the common good, it is my duty to fight against injustice and evil = even when, as they say in the movies, “The caller is in the house!” No, mere disagreement is not the threshold criteria.

I wonder if you understand the definition of liberty. It sounds to me like you think anyone who is a conservative is against liberty somehow, just because they dont agree with you.

Nay, our Lord, epistemic whiz that he is, attempted to convince the world with his opinion in Harmelin v. Michigan that one can arrive at the predicates ‘cruel and unusual’ without a judgment of ‘proportionality.’

Thus, according to his Lordship, 30 lashes for lighting up on a flight isn’t really punishment at all.

And that’s all I have to say about that.

Oh I need to stop. I think I just ruptured a kidney.

Isn’t that just adorable! I think I’ll just sit back and wait for Patty or Jill to show you the error of your ways on that one, cupcake. If they see that? It has been said Hell hath no fury . . . Enjoy!

are you male or female, i thought you might be a male at first but the more I read I think you are probably a female.