Comments on: Beating Beaty: Video Shows Fresno Police Repeatedly Hitting Homeless Man

By: Les

Les — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:10:39 +0000

Note that until he is punched, the two officers are not able to release that arm, which he is holding rigid.

That’s because the cops are incompetent and weak. It doesn’t take “courage” to stand by incompetent and weak cops. It takes blind loyalty, a frequent cause of systemic incompetence and weakness.

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:44:21 +0000

philosophicalcop:
Since philosophy necessitates reasoned criticism of the subject matter, is it just a coincidence that you are a cop and have only presented the cop’s side of the argument? Surely there are other less damaging pain-compliance techniques than smashing a guy in the face! We in Los Angeles just payed out $13 million dollars due to police “indiscretion”. Do the taxpayers of Fresno have deep pockets as well?

By: philosophical cop

philosophical cop — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:22:51 +0000

Interesting one here. I actually think those punches will be found in policy. They appear effective in convincing the suspect to give up that arm for handcuffing. Note that until he is punched, the two officers are not able to release that arm, which he is holding rigid. Probably a good use of punches to distract and complete the handcuffing technique.

Now the only question is how hard the community will push back. Will the department have the courage to stand by these cops? Will PC”ness” win out again? We shall see…

By: Buddha Is Laughing

Buddha Is Laughing — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:36:08 +0000

It won’t all collapse at once. Changes to group psychology usually comes in incremental steps. Steps just like this.

By: rafflaw

rafflaw — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:57:54 +0000

This is just one more example of the police being allowed to beat a helpless person even though the video is very clear that the only thing he was doing was trying to protect himself. Even if the allegations by the police that he had punched an officer in the arm, it had to be earlier and because he was being uncooperative when the poolice were trying to get his arms behind him to handcuff him, he was repeatedly beaten in the head and face. If these officers aren’t fired from their jobs, there is no justice anymore.