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	<title>Comments on: The Ultimate Subrogation Contract: Man Sues Neighbor for Failure to Impregnate Wife</title>
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		<title>By: Aus dem Leben eines Szlauszafs</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46647</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aus dem Leben eines Szlauszafs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Dienst- oder Werkvertrag?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Vermutlich wird sich die gerade durch das WWW fortpflanzende Geschichte, die angeblich in Stuttgart spielen soll, über die man aber bislang ausschließlich englischsprachige Quellen findet, die alle aufeinander verlinken und sich alle auf einen Scan (od...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dienst- oder Werkvertrag?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Vermutlich wird sich die gerade durch das WWW fortpflanzende Geschichte, die angeblich in Stuttgart spielen soll, über die man aber bislang ausschließlich englischsprachige Quellen findet, die alle aufeinander verlinken und sich alle auf einen Scan (od&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SlipperyOne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SlipperyOne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, I am offering my services for free. Depending on the &quot;Beauty Queen&quot; I might even spring for dinner.

Was this a Bi-Lateral Contract between the men and the woman was the third party intended beneficiary?

I wonder wonder why?

But then again what was that dang Canadian cows name, the one that was supposed to be sterile?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I am offering my services for free. Depending on the &#8220;Beauty Queen&#8221; I might even spring for dinner.</p>
<p>Was this a Bi-Lateral Contract between the men and the woman was the third party intended beneficiary?</p>
<p>I wonder wonder why?</p>
<p>But then again what was that dang Canadian cows name, the one that was supposed to be sterile?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob, Esq.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just for the record, this could have been brought as a torts action under fraud and battery charges in the United States.&quot; 

Seriously?

Per Fraud, not a chance: 

&quot;The doctor&#039;s announcement that Maus was sterile shocked everyone except his wife, who was forced to confess that Maus was not the real father of their children.&quot; 

Per Battery:

Where does the story so much as imply that Mrs. Soupolos, while possibly expressing unease at first, refused her consent?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just for the record, this could have been brought as a torts action under fraud and battery charges in the United States.&#8221; </p>
<p>Seriously?</p>
<p>Per Fraud, not a chance: </p>
<p>&#8220;The doctor&#8217;s announcement that Maus was sterile shocked everyone except his wife, who was forced to confess that Maus was not the real father of their children.&#8221; </p>
<p>Per Battery:</p>
<p>Where does the story so much as imply that Mrs. Soupolos, while possibly expressing unease at first, refused her consent?</p>
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		<title>By: Bron98</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46197</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bron98]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the failure to perform if the guy gave it the old college try is he obligated? This also sounds like a latent defect, he did not know he was shooting blanks. Can a consumer recover from the seller if the seller dosent know the item was defective? Isnt this a case of caveat humpedher?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the failure to perform if the guy gave it the old college try is he obligated? This also sounds like a latent defect, he did not know he was shooting blanks. Can a consumer recover from the seller if the seller dosent know the item was defective? Isnt this a case of caveat humpedher?</p>
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		<title>By: Berliner</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berliner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rafflaw,

I&#039;m not hostile. Sorry, if I came across as such. Maybe my previous lacked a smiley or two.

The thing I tried to add is that the case in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/entroper01/image001.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; that Prof. Turley presented, i.e. if Maus is liable to return his pay, is trivially easy in German law:

- it&#039;s a &lt;em&gt;Dienstvertrag&lt;/em&gt; (service contract), not a &lt;em&gt;Werksvertrag&lt;/em&gt; (creation contract)
- it is impossible for him to render the service (i.e. impregnate Traute), so both the service (BGB §275) and the remuneration (BGB §326) are rescinded.

Which link?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rafflaw,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not hostile. Sorry, if I came across as such. Maybe my previous lacked a smiley or two.</p>
<p>The thing I tried to add is that the case in the <a href="http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/entroper01/image001.jpg" rel="nofollow">link</a> that Prof. Turley presented, i.e. if Maus is liable to return his pay, is trivially easy in German law:</p>
<p>- it&#8217;s a <em>Dienstvertrag</em> (service contract), not a <em>Werksvertrag</em> (creation contract)<br />
- it is impossible for him to render the service (i.e. impregnate Traute), so both the service (BGB §275) and the remuneration (BGB §326) are rescinded.</p>
<p>Which link?</p>
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		<title>By: mr.ed</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mr.ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I  do a lot of volunteer work, but missed this opportunity to serve. I&#039;d be happy to take a makeup test as a gesture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  do a lot of volunteer work, but missed this opportunity to serve. I&#8217;d be happy to take a makeup test as a gesture.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Berliner,
I thought you said this story was a joke.  I can see you are in a hostile mood since my comment about it being a good law school exam question really set you off.  I finished my law school exams in 1982 so I don&#039;t need to read your link, but I will still state that the facts sound just like one of the unusual fact patterns that my law school professors seemed to enjoy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berliner,<br />
I thought you said this story was a joke.  I can see you are in a hostile mood since my comment about it being a good law school exam question really set you off.  I finished my law school exams in 1982 so I don&#8217;t need to read your link, but I will still state that the facts sound just like one of the unusual fact patterns that my law school professors seemed to enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More importantly, I want to know if Prof Turley has completely read the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) and/or—if in fact—he has contributed to the manual’s voluminous legal language under the auspices of the Uniform Law Commission (ULC).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More importantly, I want to know if Prof Turley has completely read the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) and/or—if in fact—he has contributed to the manual’s voluminous legal language under the auspices of the Uniform Law Commission (ULC).</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sally:

Right you are, I knew I&#039;d seen this story line before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally:</p>
<p>Right you are, I knew I&#8217;d seen this story line before.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I with you on this Mespo.

To me, this sounds like a story line for a Jerry Springer episode~]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I with you on this Mespo.</p>
<p>To me, this sounds like a story line for a Jerry Springer episode~</p>
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		<title>By: Berliner</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berliner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@rafflaw: Oh, what an easy exam. The main question (refund of the money - yes) is answered simply by reading BGB §326.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rafflaw: Oh, what an easy exam. The main question (refund of the money &#8211; yes) is answered simply by reading BGB §326.</p>
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		<title>By: Charity</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it is real, thank God neither of these guys have actually spawned!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is real, thank God neither of these guys have actually spawned!</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46141</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether it is real or an old April Fools Joke is not important. It is a funny story and Buddha said it best when he said it sounded like a Torts exam question.  I just want to know where do you go to find jobs like the one Maus had?  I guess we can&#039;t call him &quot;Might Maus&quot; due to his failures to satisfy his contractual obligations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether it is real or an old April Fools Joke is not important. It is a funny story and Buddha said it best when he said it sounded like a Torts exam question.  I just want to know where do you go to find jobs like the one Maus had?  I guess we can&#8217;t call him &#8220;Might Maus&#8221; due to his failures to satisfy his contractual obligations.</p>
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		<title>By: Berliner</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berliner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exhibit A: There are exactly &lt;em&gt;zero&lt;/em&gt; google hits in German for this story.
Exhibit B: None of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justizportal-bw.de&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;four courts in Stuttgart&lt;/a&gt; has a press release on that story.
Exhibit C: The English version of this story appeared on or around the 1st of April.

It&#039;s an Aprils Fool joke.

But I really wonder if the author of that joke based this on the rather unusual &quot;paternity cases&quot; Stuttgart courts had to trial (i.e. the &quot;sex auction paternity&quot; and &quot;identical twins paternity&quot; cases), of if that&#039;s a coincidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exhibit A: There are exactly <em>zero</em> google hits in German for this story.<br />
Exhibit B: None of the <a href="http://www.justizportal-bw.de" rel="nofollow">four courts in Stuttgart</a> has a press release on that story.<br />
Exhibit C: The English version of this story appeared on or around the 1st of April.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an Aprils Fool joke.</p>
<p>But I really wonder if the author of that joke based this on the rather unusual &#8220;paternity cases&#8221; Stuttgart courts had to trial (i.e. the &#8220;sex auction paternity&#8221; and &#8220;identical twins paternity&#8221; cases), of if that&#8217;s a coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: rcampbell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rcampbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mespo has probably outlined the legal aspects of this story quite well and succinctly.  As for me, I just think it&#039;s hilareous.  I can hear the dialogue now:  

Herr Maus:  I don&#039;t understand why you&#039;re not getting pregnant, Frau Soupolos.  Perhaps we should try the washing machine or the kitchen table.

Frau Soupolos:  Ya! Ya! Sehr gudt.  Und in der basement und der garten und on a weekend away und....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mespo has probably outlined the legal aspects of this story quite well and succinctly.  As for me, I just think it&#8217;s hilareous.  I can hear the dialogue now:  </p>
<p>Herr Maus:  I don&#8217;t understand why you&#8217;re not getting pregnant, Frau Soupolos.  Perhaps we should try the washing machine or the kitchen table.</p>
<p>Frau Soupolos:  Ya! Ya! Sehr gudt.  Und in der basement und der garten und on a weekend away und&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a couple of legal maxims apply here:


A naked agreement does not beget an obligation.
      -  Broom&#039;s Legal Maxims

He who does a thing by an agent is considered as doing it himself.
      -  Broom&#039;s Legal Maxims

Thus, I predict the Plaintiff will lose, and give the defendant some credit, his incessant sex with a beauty queen was almost certainly a trying affair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a couple of legal maxims apply here:</p>
<p>A naked agreement does not beget an obligation.<br />
      &#8211;  Broom&#8217;s Legal Maxims</p>
<p>He who does a thing by an agent is considered as doing it himself.<br />
      &#8211;  Broom&#8217;s Legal Maxims</p>
<p>Thus, I predict the Plaintiff will lose, and give the defendant some credit, his incessant sex with a beauty queen was almost certainly a trying affair.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/04/the-ultimate-subrogation-contract-man-sues-neighbor-for-failure-to-impregante-wife/#comment-46112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol

Yeah, this sounds like a Torts exam question for certain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol</p>
<p>Yeah, this sounds like a Torts exam question for certain.</p>
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