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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guess again...

http://jonathanturley.org/2008/03/08/bush-vetos-ban-on-waterboarding-democrats-feign-shock/

Patty C    1, March 8, 2008 at 5:17 pm

Previously posted - from my ‘Greatest Hits’ Album…

http://thehill.com/david-keene/feinsteins-cardinal-shenanigans-2007-04-30.html
By David Keene

Posted: 04/30/07 06:24 PM [ET]
&quot;Anyone who knows much about real power in Congress knows that almost every member of the House and Senate lusts after a seat on the Appropriations Committee and hopes one day to achieve the status of Cardinal. The Cardinals, of course, are the folks who chair the various Appropriations Committee subcommittees and literally control the billions of dollars that pass through their hands.

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D) chairs the Senate Rules Committee, but she’s also a Cardinal. She is currently chairwoman of the Interior, Environment and Related Agencies subcommittee, but until last year was for six years the top Democrat on the Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies (or “Milcon”) sub-committee, where she may have directed more than $1 billion to companies controlled by her husband...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess again&#8230;</p>
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<p>Patty C    1, March 8, 2008 at 5:17 pm</p>
<p>Previously posted &#8211; from my ‘Greatest Hits’ Album…</p>
<p><a href="http://thehill.com/david-keene/feinsteins-cardinal-shenanigans-2007-04-30.html" rel="nofollow">http://thehill.com/david-keene/feinsteins-cardinal-shenanigans-2007-04-30.html</a><br />
By David Keene</p>
<p>Posted: 04/30/07 06:24 PM [ET]<br />
&#8220;Anyone who knows much about real power in Congress knows that almost every member of the House and Senate lusts after a seat on the Appropriations Committee and hopes one day to achieve the status of Cardinal. The Cardinals, of course, are the folks who chair the various Appropriations Committee subcommittees and literally control the billions of dollars that pass through their hands.</p>
<p>California Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D) chairs the Senate Rules Committee, but she’s also a Cardinal. She is currently chairwoman of the Interior, Environment and Related Agencies subcommittee, but until last year was for six years the top Democrat on the Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies (or “Milcon”) sub-committee, where she may have directed more than $1 billion to companies controlled by her husband&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bRON98</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing to remember is that there are very few companies that could have done the logistics in Iraq and Afghanistan.  So it is understandable to have a no bid contract.  It certainly should have been managed better by the feds.  I know one of the lawyers that put all this stuff together and he was a very straight arrow so I am pretty sure the pentagon tried to do the right thing. 

with that much money it is hard to keep a good handle on it and I am sure some got missused.  Hopefully not billions and billions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to remember is that there are very few companies that could have done the logistics in Iraq and Afghanistan.  So it is understandable to have a no bid contract.  It certainly should have been managed better by the feds.  I know one of the lawyers that put all this stuff together and he was a very straight arrow so I am pretty sure the pentagon tried to do the right thing. </p>
<p>with that much money it is hard to keep a good handle on it and I am sure some got missused.  Hopefully not billions and billions.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But no-one seems to remember the tens of millions in personal profit that Pelosi’s husband made through his partial ownership in Perini— (contractor company in Iraq that charged $1 million per mile or road constructed in Basra).
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Wrong, Feinstein&#039;s husband Richard Blum owned Perini]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But no-one seems to remember the tens of millions in personal profit that Pelosi’s husband made through his partial ownership in Perini— (contractor company in Iraq that charged $1 million per mile or road constructed in Basra).<br />
&#8212;<br />
Wrong, Feinstein&#8217;s husband Richard Blum owned Perini</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jay Rizzo,

Do I go Baaaa Baaaa and stand in line for the next train to the Ozarks or do you?  This link may be totally irrelevant but you might like the read. I will acknowledge that there are a lot of things that I am ignorant about. And when I learn that I don&#039;t know something. I can and will look at an issue from all perspectives. Its one thing to know your case it another thing to know the opponents case better. Oh yes, this is from the USACE April 18, 2009 news letter. 

http://www.grd.usace.army.mil/index.asp

Oh well Baa Baa White sheep. . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Rizzo,</p>
<p>Do I go Baaaa Baaaa and stand in line for the next train to the Ozarks or do you?  This link may be totally irrelevant but you might like the read. I will acknowledge that there are a lot of things that I am ignorant about. And when I learn that I don&#8217;t know something. I can and will look at an issue from all perspectives. Its one thing to know your case it another thing to know the opponents case better. Oh yes, this is from the USACE April 18, 2009 news letter. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.grd.usace.army.mil/index.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.grd.usace.army.mil/index.asp</a></p>
<p>Oh well Baa Baa White sheep. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uneducated sheep.

Well, at least we&#039;re not hyper defensive boors who make incorrect assumptions about knowledge bases.  And if you think Halliburton, with their non-competitive contracts, missing pallet of cash and suspicious relocation out of jurisdiction are Cheney&#039;s FORMER company?  Well, I&#039;d rather be ovis aries than naive. 

Yours truly,

A former Bechtel employee

P.S. None of that obviates that Pelosi sucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uneducated sheep.</p>
<p>Well, at least we&#8217;re not hyper defensive boors who make incorrect assumptions about knowledge bases.  And if you think Halliburton, with their non-competitive contracts, missing pallet of cash and suspicious relocation out of jurisdiction are Cheney&#8217;s FORMER company?  Well, I&#8217;d rather be ovis aries than naive. </p>
<p>Yours truly,</p>
<p>A former Bechtel employee</p>
<p>P.S. None of that obviates that Pelosi sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Rizzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You people are uneducated sheep. Yes, the USACE does do that... but who do you  think does the labor?  Corp of engineers people have NEVER in history lifted a hammer, anyone that tells you different is lying. They hire contractors to follow their instruction. When buildings have to be built-torn down-rebuilt... thats USACE&#039;s fault, not the contractors.

Everyone likes ragging on Halliburton because its Cheneys former company. But no-one seems to remember the tens of millions in personal profit that Pelosi&#039;s husband made through his partial ownership in Perini--- (contractor company in Iraq that charged $1 million per mile or road constructed in Basra).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are uneducated sheep. Yes, the USACE does do that&#8230; but who do you  think does the labor?  Corp of engineers people have NEVER in history lifted a hammer, anyone that tells you different is lying. They hire contractors to follow their instruction. When buildings have to be built-torn down-rebuilt&#8230; thats USACE&#8217;s fault, not the contractors.</p>
<p>Everyone likes ragging on Halliburton because its Cheneys former company. But no-one seems to remember the tens of millions in personal profit that Pelosi&#8217;s husband made through his partial ownership in Perini&#8212; (contractor company in Iraq that charged $1 million per mile or road constructed in Basra).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sorry about this. Does anyone remember that the tribute to Cheney was Sig Heil, Sig Heil. Oh wrong war, sorry. My Malaprop. 

The reality is that Cheney although not the First Commander In Chief but damn close. How do you divide that power? But suffice it to say, Cheney was running the Whitehouse. He was the current CEO of Haliburton, no I am sorry, he was technically the Veep but was running Haliburton and KBR is a wholly owned subsidiary of Haliburton Oil.

The interesting tidbit on this is Johnson, yeah Lyndon had connections to Haliburton through Lady Bird. Yes her family was them. 

And a last part of this, Johnson during, drum rolls, Vietnam authorized Brown and Root at that time to do civil engineering and construction of the bridges, that our service men had to cross. Hummmm, maybe I was confused that was that not the Army Corp of Eng that were supposed to do that after the military landed and made the area clear?

Heck call me what ever you want, but do please cal me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry about this. Does anyone remember that the tribute to Cheney was Sig Heil, Sig Heil. Oh wrong war, sorry. My Malaprop. </p>
<p>The reality is that Cheney although not the First Commander In Chief but damn close. How do you divide that power? But suffice it to say, Cheney was running the Whitehouse. He was the current CEO of Haliburton, no I am sorry, he was technically the Veep but was running Haliburton and KBR is a wholly owned subsidiary of Haliburton Oil.</p>
<p>The interesting tidbit on this is Johnson, yeah Lyndon had connections to Haliburton through Lady Bird. Yes her family was them. </p>
<p>And a last part of this, Johnson during, drum rolls, Vietnam authorized Brown and Root at that time to do civil engineering and construction of the bridges, that our service men had to cross. Hummmm, maybe I was confused that was that not the Army Corp of Eng that were supposed to do that after the military landed and made the area clear?</p>
<p>Heck call me what ever you want, but do please cal me.</p>
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		<title>By: MASkeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MASkeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello to all btw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello to all btw.</p>
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		<title>By: MASkeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MASkeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capitalism and cronyism is no way to run a war.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism and cronyism is no way to run a war.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KBR routinely refused missions if they thought the were too dangerous.  Dina Razor documented this in detail.  Our troops have been put in danger by contractors who refused to bring food, fuel, water and parts (to name a few) while continuing to receive obscene amounts of money.  There is no excuse to hire contractors in the first place except for the fact that they are completely connected politically. They put our people in harms way.  To claim they couldn&#039;t not do the mission is flat out contradicted by reality.  &amp;%$#-them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KBR routinely refused missions if they thought the were too dangerous.  Dina Razor documented this in detail.  Our troops have been put in danger by contractors who refused to bring food, fuel, water and parts (to name a few) while continuing to receive obscene amounts of money.  There is no excuse to hire contractors in the first place except for the fact that they are completely connected politically. They put our people in harms way.  To claim they couldn&#8217;t not do the mission is flat out contradicted by reality.  &amp;%$#-them.</p>
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