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How many conservatives are on this blog?

Your above points re: traditional conservatives are well known here courtesy of Bron98. But thanks for reminding the audience.

you have made my point with your definitions which were probably developed by a statist. You are correct however that we wish to preserve the constitution of the US and we have a desire to go back to the principles of our founding. A more nobler form of government than republican democracy has yet to be conceived by the mind of man.

We are less free because of people like George Bush and Richard Nixon and Franklin Roosevelt, all believers in big government and/or centralized control.

Generalizations and stereotyping do no one any good. There are dissenters within any group and it is very dangerous to act as if they do not exist. We should all be reluctant to paint anyone with the big broad brush.

con⋅serv⋅a⋅tive
   /kənˈsɜrvətɪv/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv] Show IPA
–adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2. cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.
3. traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
4. (often initial capital letter) of or pertaining to the Conservative party.
5. (initial capital letter) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of Conservative Jews or Conservative Judaism.
6. having the power or tendency to conserve; preservative.
7. Mathematics. (of a vector or vector function) having curl equal to zero; irrotational; lamellar.
–noun
8. a person who is conservative in principles, actions, habits, etc.
9. a supporter of conservative political policies.
10. (initial capital letter) a member of a conservative political party, esp. the Conservative party in Great Britain.
11. a preservative.
Origin:
1350–1400; < LL conservātīvus, equiv. to L conservāt(us) (see conservation ) + -īvus -ive; r. ME conservatif < MF < L, as above

lib⋅er⋅al
   /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Show IPA
–adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.
6. of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.
7. free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners.
8. open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
9. characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor.
10. given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation.
11. not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule.
12. of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts.
13. of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman.
–noun
14. a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion.
15. (often initial capital letter) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain.
Origin:
1325–75; ME < L līberālis of freedom, befitting the free, equiv. to līber free + -ālis -al 1

Does not sound from the definition I want to be a conservative.

How about you?

It is classic statist tactics, attribute to your enemy an undesireable trait(s) and to yourself positive traits. Who wouldnt want to be “progressive”, liberal, etc. all the while believing in big government, centralized control, etc. and using the poor and helpless as pawns for gaining power over others.

It should be noted that most school systems are populated with people from the left side of the political spectrum and teachers unions are a dominant force. So I dont think we can attribute this to “conservatives”.

Please dont confuse conservatives with fundamentalists.

Conservatism has been bastardized by the modern political machine in the US. As I’m sure you know, the definitions of conservative and liberal have changed many times throughout the years. Currently, most Americans associate “conservatism” with the politics of the George Bush/Ronald Reagan crowd.

People initially thought Adolph was good for Germany. He had legions of followers. Well look where it go him.

Was strip searching a 13-year-old girl in a search for a tylenol “authoritarianism” or was it “good old common sense?”

I don’t know what political party you are afilliated with, but I have a pretty good idea. And it’s posts like yours that make it hard to take the conservative movement seriously.

But how can you associate conservatives with chipping away at students rights?

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“Over the next few decades, however, a new and more conservative majority chipped away at these rights to the point that most are now lost long before students even approach the schoolhouse gate.”
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You obviously don’t understand that what conservativism means. let me define it for you. Conservativism is a variation of the word conserve, meaning to perserve, and in the case of politics, it means to preserve traditions and constitutional rights.

I think a better phrase you could have used would be “Constitutional Liberalism.” Don’t know what that means? well lets break it down. It means one has a “liberal” view point on constitutional rights. Modifying how the 1st ammendment applies to students, would be a prime example.

Now please don’t confuse good old common sense with extreme “authoritarianism”. Your rights end when another person’s begins. For example, punishing a student for being disruptive in class or wearing offensive T-shirts is not chipping away at their rights. The disruptive student is infringing on other students’ right to learn.

I don’t know what political party you are afiliated with, but I have a pretty good idea. And it’s articles like this that use subliminal messaging to tar the conservative movement.

I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for the Supreme’s to come to their senses on this or any other issue regarding, you know, actual constitution based law…

http://rawstory.com/08/blog/2009/04/20/supreme-court-declines-review-of-case-where-jurors-consulted-bible/#

In high school many years ago my Spanish teacher slapped me.
The next day the principal was visited by my 6’2″ father, who proceeded to have the teacher publicly apologize to me. My father punished me for my snottiness that caused the teacher to snap, but he wasn’t about to let his son be corporeally punished or humiliated. Parent who sit still for the nonsense that is zero tolerance are not good parents, when the offense is non-existent.

I think the larger point is that it was the best possible foreshadowing of “The Patriot Act.” I was in no way surprised when the Bush administration made a power grab using the fear of the populace as justification. Not only did I know my history I LIVED my history.

Stip searching a student is a particularly damaging form of abuse. 1 in 3 of our girls and 1 in 4 of our boys are believed to be victims of sexual abuse. The danger of increasing that number by even 1 far outweighs any need to know about drugs.

These actions cannot be justified for any reason. I hope the SC will do the right thing and make certain such a thing does not happen to one more child.

“These kids are learning that they must accept arbitrary and often illogical actions by public figures.”

I have a younger and brother and sister who are still in grade school (my father remarried a much younger woman and had children with her). They often tell me of the ridiculous rules they have at their school. For instance, they are not allowed to use mechanical pencils (you know, those little Bic ones that you don’t have to sharpen). I asked them why and they just gave me a blank stare. Neither was given any reason for this, although my father chimed in that the school told him that “they could be used as weapons.” I’m not sure if that is actually why, but either way, it is a pointless rule. In all reality, it doesn’t really matter, but making rules just for the sake of making rules is a disturbing problem that is pervasive throughout our entire society.

This gets me thinking back to a curious event that took place when I was in middle school. We got a new principal midway through a school year. Within a few weeks, she had built up a reputation as a strict disciplinarian (I don’t recall why, but this was a public school so there wasn’t any whippings or anything like that). A few students began distributing flyers telling other students to boycott the school lunches in an effort to pressure the principal to either change her attitude or quit. All of the students who made the flyers and who received them were severely punished, including suspensions for the people who distributed the flyers. The problem of overly harsh punishment in schools (all under the guise of being tough on unruly children, akin to politicians claiming to be tough on crime) has been a problem for a long time, not just in recent years.