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	<title>Comments on: The Alberto Gonzales Defense: Judge Bybee Reportedly Denies That He Wrote Infamous Memo</title>
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		<title>By: Informant</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The truth is Las Vegas is known for persecuting Americans with Middle Eastern names of Rahman. As in names of Rahman in GITMO.

Las Vegas Lionel Sawyer and Collins, closely connected to the political name &quot;Senator Harry Reid and sons&quot; law firms are hired to investigate and do forty hour degrading interrogations in locked areas on minors and women. If you run they chase you blocking your rights to movements humiliating humans more.

They have Judges force you to give your Passports over and all files requested. So they can view and have inside Government peep and look for where you have traveled. Search for money in other Countries.

They harass you on your Government job site making you look suspicious and like a terrorist.

They invade all your private information life insurance, birth records, marriage records, education, phone, email accounts, banks, credit, medical, military, Social Security, work related documents and all Government records.

These human rights abusers cause persons to be afraid of you they block you from advancements on jobs.

Then Judges allow for lawyers investigation charges for you to pay for abuse they did on you. Close to two hundred thousands and interest judgment. To pay for the interrogations and invasions investigations after they had been paid once before.

Las Vegas is violating the United States Constitution and has acted the same as Saddam Government treated humans. They are in violations of International Laws.

Las Vegas Judges do not allow for Middle Eastern persons to have the right to happiness nor the right to privacy as Grantee under the U.S. Constitution. 

This is a way to profit and take property away from Middle Eastern person with the names like Rahman after hard labor. Even if you are an innocent victim because of Post 9/11 and race hating inside of American Judaical system they condone this activity.

Las Vegas allowed for Middle Eastern wives to be raped and charge them for this if they report a crime. Even after a conviction by the perpetrator.

Las Vegas Judges are racist and violate human rights inside and out side of America.

The Governor of Nevada office sends out Homeland Security to your home humiliating you and to investigate for what was once the right to free speech for speaking against human rights crimes.

It was once understood that if you could have free speech you should be able to report it after you were victimized and came close to death.

Torture Judges you bet it is any way you look at it. A disgrace world wide for Nevada and those who have behaved like SSaddam and Hitler.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is Las Vegas is known for persecuting Americans with Middle Eastern names of Rahman. As in names of Rahman in GITMO.</p>
<p>Las Vegas Lionel Sawyer and Collins, closely connected to the political name &#8220;Senator Harry Reid and sons&#8221; law firms are hired to investigate and do forty hour degrading interrogations in locked areas on minors and women. If you run they chase you blocking your rights to movements humiliating humans more.</p>
<p>They have Judges force you to give your Passports over and all files requested. So they can view and have inside Government peep and look for where you have traveled. Search for money in other Countries.</p>
<p>They harass you on your Government job site making you look suspicious and like a terrorist.</p>
<p>They invade all your private information life insurance, birth records, marriage records, education, phone, email accounts, banks, credit, medical, military, Social Security, work related documents and all Government records.</p>
<p>These human rights abusers cause persons to be afraid of you they block you from advancements on jobs.</p>
<p>Then Judges allow for lawyers investigation charges for you to pay for abuse they did on you. Close to two hundred thousands and interest judgment. To pay for the interrogations and invasions investigations after they had been paid once before.</p>
<p>Las Vegas is violating the United States Constitution and has acted the same as Saddam Government treated humans. They are in violations of International Laws.</p>
<p>Las Vegas Judges do not allow for Middle Eastern persons to have the right to happiness nor the right to privacy as Grantee under the U.S. Constitution. </p>
<p>This is a way to profit and take property away from Middle Eastern person with the names like Rahman after hard labor. Even if you are an innocent victim because of Post 9/11 and race hating inside of American Judaical system they condone this activity.</p>
<p>Las Vegas allowed for Middle Eastern wives to be raped and charge them for this if they report a crime. Even after a conviction by the perpetrator.</p>
<p>Las Vegas Judges are racist and violate human rights inside and out side of America.</p>
<p>The Governor of Nevada office sends out Homeland Security to your home humiliating you and to investigate for what was once the right to free speech for speaking against human rights crimes.</p>
<p>It was once understood that if you could have free speech you should be able to report it after you were victimized and came close to death.</p>
<p>Torture Judges you bet it is any way you look at it. A disgrace world wide for Nevada and those who have behaved like SSaddam and Hitler.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[abysmal
abysmal
One entry found.

Main Entry: abys·mal Listen to the pronunciation of abysmal

Pronunciation: \ə-ˈbiz-məl, a-\ 
Function: adjective 
Date:
    circa 1656

1 a: having immense or fathomless extension downward, backward, or inward  b: immeasurably great : profound  c: immeasurably low or wretched 2: abyssal 2
— abys·mal·ly Listen to the pronunciation of abysmally \-mə-lē\ adverb

I am sorry. This really can be a fodder for fools. If you know what I mean dear Patti.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abysmal<br />
abysmal<br />
One entry found.</p>
<p>Main Entry: abys·mal Listen to the pronunciation of abysmal</p>
<p>Pronunciation: \ə-ˈbiz-məl, a-\<br />
Function: adjective<br />
Date:<br />
    circa 1656</p>
<p>1 a: having immense or fathomless extension downward, backward, or inward  b: immeasurably great : profound  c: immeasurably low or wretched 2: abyssal 2<br />
— abys·mal·ly Listen to the pronunciation of abysmally \-mə-lē\ adverb</p>
<p>I am sorry. This really can be a fodder for fools. If you know what I mean dear Patti.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50270</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know with some, education is lost. No amount of learning will help them with a severe lack of social skills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know with some, education is lost. No amount of learning will help them with a severe lack of social skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patty C    1, April 28, 2009 at 8:40 am

I’m not talking about occasional and obviously inadvertent typos. . . . 

Seriously, I don’t anyone who’s had a decent education who does that nor anyone who gets away with it in a professional setting.
*********************************************

Now exactly what were you trying to communicate to me. 

That a) You are no lady;
     b) That you are a fool;
     c) That you cannot write a clear coherent sentence to convey your thought; and
     d) That you are abysmal.

Bait is all I can say, BAIT. Fools play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C    1, April 28, 2009 at 8:40 am</p>
<p>I’m not talking about occasional and obviously inadvertent typos. . . . </p>
<p>Seriously, I don’t anyone who’s had a decent education who does that nor anyone who gets away with it in a professional setting.<br />
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<p>Now exactly what were you trying to communicate to me. </p>
<p>That a) You are no lady;<br />
     b) That you are a fool;<br />
     c) That you cannot write a clear coherent sentence to convey your thought; and<br />
     d) That you are abysmal.</p>
<p>Bait is all I can say, BAIT. Fools play.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not talking about occasional and obviously inadvertent typos. Even Jonathan does that because he&#039;s busy, just as I am, intermittently, at the moment. 

You use periods where you should be using commas. That you do so repeatedly demonstrates that this is the way you write. 

Seriously, I don&#039;t anyone who&#039;s had a decent education who does that nor anyone who gets away with it in a professional setting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not talking about occasional and obviously inadvertent typos. Even Jonathan does that because he&#8217;s busy, just as I am, intermittently, at the moment. </p>
<p>You use periods where you should be using commas. That you do so repeatedly demonstrates that this is the way you write. </p>
<p>Seriously, I don&#8217;t anyone who&#8217;s had a decent education who does that nor anyone who gets away with it in a professional setting.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patty C,

I presume that Maine is part of the US and therefore, &quot;WE&quot; are still trying to deport an alleged Nazi war criminal. 

See personal attacks. No Need.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C,</p>
<p>I presume that Maine is part of the US and therefore, &#8220;WE&#8221; are still trying to deport an alleged Nazi war criminal. </p>
<p>See personal attacks. No Need.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So if you are criticizing me, look at the teacher.

Bait is what I can say. Bait.

Not much of a lady are you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if you are criticizing me, look at the teacher.</p>
<p>Bait is what I can say. Bait.</p>
<p>Not much of a lady are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Texas? Gee whiz, just a couple of days ago it was Uhhhh, let&#039;s see here... 
...Chicago.

Humor and lightness? Puhleeze. I guess I must&#039;ve missed that part
- entirely. 

Just a little tip - all of the lawyers I have ever worked with never would have made it through college, much less law school without knowing how to construct a complete sentence. 

jonathanturley.org/2009/04/25/white-house-no-special-prosecutor-on-torture/
CCD,

So long as Obama is in power he has the authority. I will offer you that we are still trying to Deport an Alleged Nazi War Criminal in the greater Chicago area. If that can be said.

So the answer is NO, No Statute of Limitations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas? Gee whiz, just a couple of days ago it was Uhhhh, let&#8217;s see here&#8230;<br />
&#8230;Chicago.</p>
<p>Humor and lightness? Puhleeze. I guess I must&#8217;ve missed that part<br />
- entirely. </p>
<p>Just a little tip &#8211; all of the lawyers I have ever worked with never would have made it through college, much less law school without knowing how to construct a complete sentence. </p>
<p>jonathanturley.org/2009/04/25/white-house-no-special-prosecutor-on-torture/<br />
CCD,</p>
<p>So long as Obama is in power he has the authority. I will offer you that we are still trying to Deport an Alleged Nazi War Criminal in the greater Chicago area. If that can be said.</p>
<p>So the answer is NO, No Statute of Limitations.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50246</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patty C.

I would be scared, but you do not know where I live other than in Texas. Big state and W ain&#039;t to far away. Could it be Crawford or could it be Dallas?

See, you need not respond to this. Let us see how much dignity of a lady yo have. Is that too much to ask? Were you the one who always sucked up in class to be the teachers pet?

I as you can figure was the class clown, I brought humor and lightness to some grave issues.

As I see it and &quot;I Robot&quot; mentality aside, was and am still doing my part. You are a Harvard trained MD as you claim. Do no harm Doctor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C.</p>
<p>I would be scared, but you do not know where I live other than in Texas. Big state and W ain&#8217;t to far away. Could it be Crawford or could it be Dallas?</p>
<p>See, you need not respond to this. Let us see how much dignity of a lady yo have. Is that too much to ask? Were you the one who always sucked up in class to be the teachers pet?</p>
<p>I as you can figure was the class clown, I brought humor and lightness to some grave issues.</p>
<p>As I see it and &#8220;I Robot&#8221; mentality aside, was and am still doing my part. You are a Harvard trained MD as you claim. Do no harm Doctor.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50242</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m dealing with right now, AY. I said for you to stay out of it. 
You don&#039;t what you&#039;re talking about. This is hardly about difference of opinions. 

I didn&#039;t start this crap but I intend to put an end to it. 
One way or another it will end. 

Got it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m dealing with right now, AY. I said for you to stay out of it.<br />
You don&#8217;t what you&#8217;re talking about. This is hardly about difference of opinions. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t start this crap but I intend to put an end to it.<br />
One way or another it will end. </p>
<p>Got it?</p>
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		<title>By: Bron98</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bron98]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anon:

very well said, you sir are a gentleman and a role model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon:</p>
<p>very well said, you sir are a gentleman and a role model.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patty C,

It is evident that you are a very unhappy person or why would you take the time to insult others like you do. This is an open/free thought blawg site. Take you family battles home to where they belong. Deal with the people that you need to deal with and just realize that sometimes you will never get the answer from them for why they did things the way they did. So as a mature adult, you such it up and get over it. I am sure you can. 

I could take personal jabs but whats the point, I see your weaknesses from a lot of things that you have posted. Why do you get mad when someone disagrees with you, have you met her do you have some personal animus against her? 

Life goes on. You either get caught up in the tide or you learn to swim to shore, sometimes parallel. Which is doing what you have to do to survive. 

So with that Just try and get along. When I read something I do not agree with I try and understand why it offends me so. It is not an insult to my  dignity or my worth as a human being. I don&#039;t know these people other than being on here. 

It is not a soap opera, it is a lot of people who have the same ideals and it is just a matter of how we get there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C,</p>
<p>It is evident that you are a very unhappy person or why would you take the time to insult others like you do. This is an open/free thought blawg site. Take you family battles home to where they belong. Deal with the people that you need to deal with and just realize that sometimes you will never get the answer from them for why they did things the way they did. So as a mature adult, you such it up and get over it. I am sure you can. </p>
<p>I could take personal jabs but whats the point, I see your weaknesses from a lot of things that you have posted. Why do you get mad when someone disagrees with you, have you met her do you have some personal animus against her? </p>
<p>Life goes on. You either get caught up in the tide or you learn to swim to shore, sometimes parallel. Which is doing what you have to do to survive. </p>
<p>So with that Just try and get along. When I read something I do not agree with I try and understand why it offends me so. It is not an insult to my  dignity or my worth as a human being. I don&#8217;t know these people other than being on here. </p>
<p>It is not a soap opera, it is a lot of people who have the same ideals and it is just a matter of how we get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stay out of it, AY. Like you said, you just got here... 

BTW, I a proceed under the impression JT appreciates my contributions - gastronomic and otherwise. He is know to us turlees as quite the kitchen wizard/sommelier, himself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay out of it, AY. Like you said, you just got here&#8230; </p>
<p>BTW, I a proceed under the impression JT appreciates my contributions &#8211; gastronomic and otherwise. He is know to us turlees as quite the kitchen wizard/sommelier, himself!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.JungFreud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr.JungFreud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PattyC:

are you a mental patient using the hospitals computer again?  I think it&#039;s time we take our chlorpromazine hydrochloride.

Rx: chlorpromazine hydrochloride PO QID]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PattyC:</p>
<p>are you a mental patient using the hospitals computer again?  I think it&#8217;s time we take our chlorpromazine hydrochloride.</p>
<p>Rx: chlorpromazine hydrochloride PO QID</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patty C, Jill and all the others that cannot openly play nice together:

Exchange IM Addresses Email Addresses or some other way to vent your open hostility towards one another. You are not children. I already have tires on my vehicle and I don&#039;t need them to be kicked anymore.

Get a hint of what has been said in a nice manner thus far. For us, we who are new to this list serve, Blawg, grog what ever you may call it. Take it outside.

Not much to ask. I am sure the Good Professor would help set up dummy email accounts so that you all can exchange the like ideals without offending the rest of of.

I don&#039;t particularly care for the recipes on he unless they are out of the anachronistic cookbook. Only Kiddin!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty C, Jill and all the others that cannot openly play nice together:</p>
<p>Exchange IM Addresses Email Addresses or some other way to vent your open hostility towards one another. You are not children. I already have tires on my vehicle and I don&#8217;t need them to be kicked anymore.</p>
<p>Get a hint of what has been said in a nice manner thus far. For us, we who are new to this list serve, Blawg, grog what ever you may call it. Take it outside.</p>
<p>Not much to ask. I am sure the Good Professor would help set up dummy email accounts so that you all can exchange the like ideals without offending the rest of of.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t particularly care for the recipes on he unless they are out of the anachronistic cookbook. Only Kiddin!!</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just read some of the other cracks from the weekend and 
I am ticked OFF...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read some of the other cracks from the weekend and<br />
I am ticked OFF&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patty C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s it. I am going state this once and then I am 
DONE! 

In &#039;fairness&#039; to seamus,&#039;Esq&#039;, no less, not that he deserves it from me, perhaps if it weren&#039;t for Jill&#039;s flagrant disregard for my many requests to &#039;Cool it&#039; and watch her potty mouth, which he no doubt was mirroring, perhaps he would not otherwise have been disposed to foul the area with exchanges so incredibly disrespectful and juvenile. We may never know, now.

And don&#039;t you DARE pretend like you don&#039;t what has been going on here with any, and every, guy who&#039;s come along for the past several months, Jill, because there&#039;s plenty more were this comes from:

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/02/12/with-friends-like-this-stephen-colbert-endorses-turley-testimony/

seamus    1, February 12, 2009 at 9:44 pm

After you’ve eaten all of your leather goods, I recommend the paste off the back of your wall paper. Of course this all assumes all of the the cats, dogs, gold fish, clueless squirrels, slow-moving oppossums, and Irish have all ready been eaten.

After the paste I recommend the bark of a chiccoree tree. Look for grubs under fallen trees. And don’t through out those old cotten cloths, boiled in urine they make a stew that can sustain human life for up to a month.

Come on America, you bunch of pussies!!! This is just a wee little bump in the road, no need to panick. I found a site that actually explains how to make soilent green. If it’s good enough for Chuck Heston, it’s good enough for me!!

Keep those buckets full of rain water, pray for smaller government, and that God that George Bush has brought us closer to Rapture. Good night, and go fuck yourself.

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seamus    1, February 12, 2009 at 9:46 pm

applogeez for all the tipe-o’s

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Jill    1, February 13, 2009 at 8:04 am

seamus,

I am not eating my Prada, even the knock-offs. I’m going down with my conspicuous consumption intact. I do have some slow moving neighbors to consider though!

(Your survivalist tips were wonderful!!!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it. I am going state this once and then I am<br />
DONE! </p>
<p>In &#8216;fairness&#8217; to seamus,&#8217;Esq&#8217;, no less, not that he deserves it from me, perhaps if it weren&#8217;t for Jill&#8217;s flagrant disregard for my many requests to &#8216;Cool it&#8217; and watch her potty mouth, which he no doubt was mirroring, perhaps he would not otherwise have been disposed to foul the area with exchanges so incredibly disrespectful and juvenile. We may never know, now.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t you DARE pretend like you don&#8217;t what has been going on here with any, and every, guy who&#8217;s come along for the past several months, Jill, because there&#8217;s plenty more were this comes from:</p>
<p><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2009/02/12/with-friends-like-this-stephen-colbert-endorses-turley-testimony/" rel="nofollow">http://jonathanturley.org/2009/02/12/with-friends-like-this-stephen-colbert-endorses-turley-testimony/</a></p>
<p>seamus    1, February 12, 2009 at 9:44 pm</p>
<p>After you’ve eaten all of your leather goods, I recommend the paste off the back of your wall paper. Of course this all assumes all of the the cats, dogs, gold fish, clueless squirrels, slow-moving oppossums, and Irish have all ready been eaten.</p>
<p>After the paste I recommend the bark of a chiccoree tree. Look for grubs under fallen trees. And don’t through out those old cotten cloths, boiled in urine they make a stew that can sustain human life for up to a month.</p>
<p>Come on America, you bunch of pussies!!! This is just a wee little bump in the road, no need to panick. I found a site that actually explains how to make soilent green. If it’s good enough for Chuck Heston, it’s good enough for me!!</p>
<p>Keep those buckets full of rain water, pray for smaller government, and that God that George Bush has brought us closer to Rapture. Good night, and go fuck yourself.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>seamus    1, February 12, 2009 at 9:46 pm</p>
<p>applogeez for all the tipe-o’s</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Jill    1, February 13, 2009 at 8:04 am</p>
<p>seamus,</p>
<p>I am not eating my Prada, even the knock-offs. I’m going down with my conspicuous consumption intact. I do have some slow moving neighbors to consider though!</p>
<p>(Your survivalist tips were wonderful!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: Bron98</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bron98]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFLEO:

maybe not, by 1988 you would have been out of a job and would have had to pump gas for a few years or start a new career.  I went to Huston in 1988 for a World of Concrete convention (yes I know it sounds terribly exciting, but I did get to meet a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader) and they had PhD&#039;s in geology as bell hops and you could buy a house for about 50k or less in one of the &quot;good&quot; neighborhoods.

So you were smart to do what you did.  Anyway I used to see guys that were 35 look like 50, and they say hardwork never killed anyone, maybe not but it does put some gray on the head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFLEO:</p>
<p>maybe not, by 1988 you would have been out of a job and would have had to pump gas for a few years or start a new career.  I went to Huston in 1988 for a World of Concrete convention (yes I know it sounds terribly exciting, but I did get to meet a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader) and they had PhD&#8217;s in geology as bell hops and you could buy a house for about 50k or less in one of the &#8220;good&#8221; neighborhoods.</p>
<p>So you were smart to do what you did.  Anyway I used to see guys that were 35 look like 50, and they say hardwork never killed anyone, maybe not but it does put some gray on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-50032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bron,

I worked for a logging and perforating company in the oil/gas patch in the 4-Corners areas of the great southwest.  I started out as a roustabout, considered a roughneck position and one as a pumper—job offers; worked loading explosive rounds in downhole well casing perforating guns; and then I turned down an apprentice well logger job—bore depth/stratigraphy—(starting @ $20,000.00) in the mid-1970s.  That was the worst financial error I ever made because I later took a starting WG-3 Federal government job instead (ask Mike Spindell about such a choice).  However, money is not the measure of a man&#039;s honor, satisfaction, or accomplishment in a career choice, if he is honest with himself.

“Once there was a thought inside my head
‘Fore I reached thirty I’d be dead…
“I ain’t never growin’ old, if I keep on rollin’ with the flow”   

Charlie Rich 1977 #1 Country; # 101 Pop Charts]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bron,</p>
<p>I worked for a logging and perforating company in the oil/gas patch in the 4-Corners areas of the great southwest.  I started out as a roustabout, considered a roughneck position and one as a pumper—job offers; worked loading explosive rounds in downhole well casing perforating guns; and then I turned down an apprentice well logger job—bore depth/stratigraphy—(starting @ $20,000.00) in the mid-1970s.  That was the worst financial error I ever made because I later took a starting WG-3 Federal government job instead (ask Mike Spindell about such a choice).  However, money is not the measure of a man&#8217;s honor, satisfaction, or accomplishment in a career choice, if he is honest with himself.</p>
<p>“Once there was a thought inside my head<br />
‘Fore I reached thirty I’d be dead…<br />
“I ain’t never growin’ old, if I keep on rollin’ with the flow”   </p>
<p>Charlie Rich 1977 #1 Country; # 101 Pop Charts</p>
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		<title>By: buddhaislaughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49904</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buddhaislaughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seamus,

You&#039;ve gone and interrupted my vacation, forcing me to not only an unsecure computer, but a Mac with one of those cheesey chicklet keyboards I can&#039;t seem to get the hang of typing on because I fear they&#039;ll break just so I can say . . .

FOR XENU&#039;S SAKE MAN!  GET IT TOGETHER AND KEEP POSTING!

Who else is going to make me spray decaf all over my monitors back at the house?  Sure . . . Bob, mespo, the Mike&#039;s et al are a funny group, but they don&#039;t make me spit coffee.

My suppliers of monitors and Windex will thank you.

Do your part to help the economy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seamus,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve gone and interrupted my vacation, forcing me to not only an unsecure computer, but a Mac with one of those cheesey chicklet keyboards I can&#8217;t seem to get the hang of typing on because I fear they&#8217;ll break just so I can say . . .</p>
<p>FOR XENU&#8217;S SAKE MAN!  GET IT TOGETHER AND KEEP POSTING!</p>
<p>Who else is going to make me spray decaf all over my monitors back at the house?  Sure . . . Bob, mespo, the Mike&#8217;s et al are a funny group, but they don&#8217;t make me spit coffee.</p>
<p>My suppliers of monitors and Windex will thank you.</p>
<p>Do your part to help the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seamus,

Please reconsider about not posting.  I will embarass you with my next statement, but some of the things you said have been profound.

Lottakatz,

I lost that thread you posted on.  I was thinking how to respond and can&#039;t find it.  If you get this message can you redirect me?

Thanks

Mike S.

I haven&#039;t responded to some the things you call &quot;corrections&quot; because they didn&#039;t seem to be corrections.  I&#039;ve been very careful to back up any criticism I have of Obama.  Saying that you don&#039;t like what I said because I say too many negative things or because I never liked Obama isn&#039;t something that I can reasonably respond to.  If you tell me that the negative thing I said is untrue, and you show me why it&#039;s untrue, then I will agree with you.  Whether I like Obama or not is irrelevant.  It&#039;s no different than my statements about bushcheney.  I don&#039;t like them and neither do you.  So neither of our statements can be evaluated on whether we like or dislike any particular political figure.  Either the statement about them is accurate or it isn&#039;t.  If it is inaccurate, then there should be a retraction of the statement.  So far, when I&#039;m reading what you say I haven&#039;t seen a factual refutation of what I said.  (I might certainly have missed this.)  I have seen you say things such as I know what has happened but I believe in my heart that Obama is a good man and knows what he&#039;s doing and he&#039;s just doing everything for the greater good.  That&#039;s an opinion, not a correction of facts.  We are never going to agree on that opinion.  I did try to lay out arguments as to why I can&#039;t agree with that opinion but basically, it seems like we would just go round and round and never get anywhere so it makes sense to me to drop the enterprise completely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seamus,</p>
<p>Please reconsider about not posting.  I will embarass you with my next statement, but some of the things you said have been profound.</p>
<p>Lottakatz,</p>
<p>I lost that thread you posted on.  I was thinking how to respond and can&#8217;t find it.  If you get this message can you redirect me?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Mike S.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t responded to some the things you call &#8220;corrections&#8221; because they didn&#8217;t seem to be corrections.  I&#8217;ve been very careful to back up any criticism I have of Obama.  Saying that you don&#8217;t like what I said because I say too many negative things or because I never liked Obama isn&#8217;t something that I can reasonably respond to.  If you tell me that the negative thing I said is untrue, and you show me why it&#8217;s untrue, then I will agree with you.  Whether I like Obama or not is irrelevant.  It&#8217;s no different than my statements about bushcheney.  I don&#8217;t like them and neither do you.  So neither of our statements can be evaluated on whether we like or dislike any particular political figure.  Either the statement about them is accurate or it isn&#8217;t.  If it is inaccurate, then there should be a retraction of the statement.  So far, when I&#8217;m reading what you say I haven&#8217;t seen a factual refutation of what I said.  (I might certainly have missed this.)  I have seen you say things such as I know what has happened but I believe in my heart that Obama is a good man and knows what he&#8217;s doing and he&#8217;s just doing everything for the greater good.  That&#8217;s an opinion, not a correction of facts.  We are never going to agree on that opinion.  I did try to lay out arguments as to why I can&#8217;t agree with that opinion but basically, it seems like we would just go round and round and never get anywhere so it makes sense to me to drop the enterprise completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Bron98</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bron98]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFLEO:

&quot;As a old man who has heard every word possible from jobs in the military, law enforcement, oil field work—one of the most profane places on earth—&quot;

waht did you do in the oil field?  I used to be a roustabout and a roughneck and worked offshore in Alaska and was a surveyor and siesmic survey monkey in the Gulf of Mexico.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFLEO:</p>
<p>&#8220;As a old man who has heard every word possible from jobs in the military, law enforcement, oil field work—one of the most profane places on earth—&#8221;</p>
<p>waht did you do in the oil field?  I used to be a roustabout and a roughneck and worked offshore in Alaska and was a surveyor and siesmic survey monkey in the Gulf of Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mespo727272]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with FFLeo. This blog is Professor&#039;s general invitation for us to enter his space and consider his views. I would never use such language in his space and I will not use it here. For one thing it&#039;s disrespectful, if sometimes clever, but more importantly it takes away from the civil discourse we have enjoyed for so long. If it means losing a poster or two, I am willing to pay that price for adult conversation. I have no interest in watching this unique experience descend into some type of guttural cacophony of group name calling. We are all much better than that as our many posts have proven, and I am certain JT has better things to do than referee sandbox disputes and potty-mouth language.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with FFLeo. This blog is Professor&#8217;s general invitation for us to enter his space and consider his views. I would never use such language in his space and I will not use it here. For one thing it&#8217;s disrespectful, if sometimes clever, but more importantly it takes away from the civil discourse we have enjoyed for so long. If it means losing a poster or two, I am willing to pay that price for adult conversation. I have no interest in watching this unique experience descend into some type of guttural cacophony of group name calling. We are all much better than that as our many posts have proven, and I am certain JT has better things to do than referee sandbox disputes and potty-mouth language.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone,

Why can&#039;t we all just get along. Nothing creates more problems than invidiousness. I know its a contradiction. We all  have something worth while to contribute, even I do. 

As Rodney King, stated after he got his 3 million dollars, why can&#039;t we just get along? That is a contradiction even in its own right, don&#039;t you see?

He either wanted to be left alone to do his drugs and drive, before he got beat. Or he wanted to be left alone after he got the crap beat out of him, because he was in too much pain. Or he wanted to be left alone after the beating was settled for 3 million dollars. or he wanted to be left alone because he had money (then) to do his drugs after he got stopped again. The last time I do not believe he got beat. I may be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone,</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we all just get along. Nothing creates more problems than invidiousness. I know its a contradiction. We all  have something worth while to contribute, even I do. </p>
<p>As Rodney King, stated after he got his 3 million dollars, why can&#8217;t we just get along? That is a contradiction even in its own right, don&#8217;t you see?</p>
<p>He either wanted to be left alone to do his drugs and drive, before he got beat. Or he wanted to be left alone after he got the crap beat out of him, because he was in too much pain. Or he wanted to be left alone after the beating was settled for 3 million dollars. or he wanted to be left alone because he had money (then) to do his drugs after he got stopped again. The last time I do not believe he got beat. I may be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seamus et al.  

Professor Turley sometimes posts court cases involving profanity as topics and then we comment on those cases.  Most reasonable, thinking people are against outright censorship, although most also appreciate decorum in public places unless they specifically and voluntarily go to a place noted for raucous behavior and/or foul language for whatever entertainment value, say for example, a smoky country western bar.  Like an ‘ol country song, you just know there is going to be cheatin’, drankin’, swearin’, and cryin’ in the beer when you enter those swangin’ doors of that bar/pub below the flashing, cheesy neon sign.  I have not seen such a sign over &#039;Turley’s Place&#039; nor would I enter if I did.  

As a old man who has heard every word possible from jobs in the military, law enforcement, oil field work—one of the most profane places on earth—and when dealing with drunk and drugged modern-day hippies at 2 am in the morning while I ran them out of restricted areas, I am not a prude.  However, when I enter the Number 1 Legal Theory and Law Professor Blawg, I do not expect the same profanity that a person would hear in a bar, strip club, or at any one of the thousands of websites that are filled with every profane word found in the Urban Dictionary, and then some.

Seamus, you do not post very often but when you do, you are mostly funny, sometimes respond to, and provide legal comments.  I think we all like most of your comments and I certainly want to read more from you. 

I view this blawg as a place to access legal commentary on current events.  If Dick Cheney says as 4-letter word in the halls of government and nothing happens to him, yet some common citizen  says a less descriptive ‘cuss’ word and then gets fined and/or goes to jail, then writing the words within this blawg seems appropriate for discussion.  However, using profanity left and right to emphasize a point during comments is inappropriate, in my view.  After seeing such commentary I think, what if someone who dislikes ‘you liberals here’ were to copy back-to-back profanity-laced posts from this blawg and then posted those on their website to embarrass the “Turlees&quot; (coined by Patty C).  Yeah, they could say, some real legal scholars those Turlees  are, they cannot express a thought—legal or otherwise—without using sophomoric gutter language that they did not need a J.D. to learn, or did they?  

One thing that has concerned me is that there are professional lawyers besides Professor Turley who post here using their actual names, which are sometimes linked to their own websites/businesses.  Having such accomplished, experienced lawyers willing to make the effort and take the time from their full schedules to reply to topics is what makes this site exceptional.  Then to have those lawyers’ cogent and legally helpful posts juxtaposed to needless, base, foul language denigrates their efforts and this blawg—guilt by association, if you want to call it that.  

Perhaps I have gone much too far with this rebuttal.  However, I consider that I am in Professor Turley’s virtual classroom and I would never shout profanities during his lectures or at my other classmates.  To do so is to disrespect him, his profession, and his professorship.  Most people reading my comments now have viewed the Hardball video with Pat Buchanan and know how foolish, uncontrolled, and ridiculous a man he really is.  The disrespect that Buchanan demonstrated towards Professor Turley is very similar to the way I view excessive profanity used within his blawg.  

Of course, Professor Turley is the ultimate arbitrator of what happens here, although he is only one man doing the important duties of several competent, professional legal scholars.  We can help by first respecting him and his site netiquette and then by policing ourselves whenever any of us has a *bad day* and starts to post something excessively inappropriate and too profane.  We are guest students or visiting attorneys in Professor Jonathan Turley’s cyber-college and we must afford him the decorum he unequivocally deserves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seamus et al.  </p>
<p>Professor Turley sometimes posts court cases involving profanity as topics and then we comment on those cases.  Most reasonable, thinking people are against outright censorship, although most also appreciate decorum in public places unless they specifically and voluntarily go to a place noted for raucous behavior and/or foul language for whatever entertainment value, say for example, a smoky country western bar.  Like an ‘ol country song, you just know there is going to be cheatin’, drankin’, swearin’, and cryin’ in the beer when you enter those swangin’ doors of that bar/pub below the flashing, cheesy neon sign.  I have not seen such a sign over &#8216;Turley’s Place&#8217; nor would I enter if I did.  </p>
<p>As a old man who has heard every word possible from jobs in the military, law enforcement, oil field work—one of the most profane places on earth—and when dealing with drunk and drugged modern-day hippies at 2 am in the morning while I ran them out of restricted areas, I am not a prude.  However, when I enter the Number 1 Legal Theory and Law Professor Blawg, I do not expect the same profanity that a person would hear in a bar, strip club, or at any one of the thousands of websites that are filled with every profane word found in the Urban Dictionary, and then some.</p>
<p>Seamus, you do not post very often but when you do, you are mostly funny, sometimes respond to, and provide legal comments.  I think we all like most of your comments and I certainly want to read more from you. </p>
<p>I view this blawg as a place to access legal commentary on current events.  If Dick Cheney says as 4-letter word in the halls of government and nothing happens to him, yet some common citizen  says a less descriptive ‘cuss’ word and then gets fined and/or goes to jail, then writing the words within this blawg seems appropriate for discussion.  However, using profanity left and right to emphasize a point during comments is inappropriate, in my view.  After seeing such commentary I think, what if someone who dislikes ‘you liberals here’ were to copy back-to-back profanity-laced posts from this blawg and then posted those on their website to embarrass the “Turlees&#8221; (coined by Patty C).  Yeah, they could say, some real legal scholars those Turlees  are, they cannot express a thought—legal or otherwise—without using sophomoric gutter language that they did not need a J.D. to learn, or did they?  </p>
<p>One thing that has concerned me is that there are professional lawyers besides Professor Turley who post here using their actual names, which are sometimes linked to their own websites/businesses.  Having such accomplished, experienced lawyers willing to make the effort and take the time from their full schedules to reply to topics is what makes this site exceptional.  Then to have those lawyers’ cogent and legally helpful posts juxtaposed to needless, base, foul language denigrates their efforts and this blawg—guilt by association, if you want to call it that.  </p>
<p>Perhaps I have gone much too far with this rebuttal.  However, I consider that I am in Professor Turley’s virtual classroom and I would never shout profanities during his lectures or at my other classmates.  To do so is to disrespect him, his profession, and his professorship.  Most people reading my comments now have viewed the Hardball video with Pat Buchanan and know how foolish, uncontrolled, and ridiculous a man he really is.  The disrespect that Buchanan demonstrated towards Professor Turley is very similar to the way I view excessive profanity used within his blawg.  </p>
<p>Of course, Professor Turley is the ultimate arbitrator of what happens here, although he is only one man doing the important duties of several competent, professional legal scholars.  We can help by first respecting him and his site netiquette and then by policing ourselves whenever any of us has a *bad day* and starts to post something excessively inappropriate and too profane.  We are guest students or visiting attorneys in Professor Jonathan Turley’s cyber-college and we must afford him the decorum he unequivocally deserves.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seamus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s o.k. professor, I&#039;ll just stop posting here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s o.k. professor, I&#8217;ll just stop posting here.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathanturley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonathanturley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seamus, I must ask that you refrain from the use of the profanity on this site.  I appreciate your passion but I would appreciate your scrubbing the language a bit more before posting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seamus, I must ask that you refrain from the use of the profanity on this site.  I appreciate your passion but I would appreciate your scrubbing the language a bit more before posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49877</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t need to hold back and be polite here, Seamus.  Take the gloves off and really let&#039;em know how you feel, laddie ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need to hold back and be polite here, Seamus.  Take the gloves off and really let&#8217;em know how you feel, laddie &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AnonY wrote:

&quot;I wish that people could stay germane to the various issues on a subject and not cross over in other words keep the thread a sewin when we come a talkin.&quot; 
____________

That is what this blawg *could* become.  I appreciate that attorneys take time to posit here.  The junk, nonsensical, irrelevant posts really denigrate the efforts of those legally knowledgeable persons who assist us non-lawyers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AnonY wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I wish that people could stay germane to the various issues on a subject and not cross over in other words keep the thread a sewin when we come a talkin.&#8221;<br />
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<p>That is what this blawg *could* become.  I appreciate that attorneys take time to posit here.  The junk, nonsensical, irrelevant posts really denigrate the efforts of those legally knowledgeable persons who assist us non-lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FF LEO,

If you want to make him work and if enough complaints are filed with the Nevada State Bar or where it is that he is licensed from. They must take some action, I am not saying it will go anywhere. I am just saying that if say 150,000 complaints against the same Licensed attorney they have to take notice. 

The Judicial Misconduct and Disability branch is designed to kind of say ok, nod, nod, wink, wink we understand what you are saying. The judges are there for life unless they are removed by some process or resign. Public Pressure will do a lot. And Bush was attempting to Pack the last &quot;liberal&quot; court, whatever that word means to you.

It means to me doing the right thing despite what a few special interest groups want. Remember they have an institution to protect. Themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FF LEO,</p>
<p>If you want to make him work and if enough complaints are filed with the Nevada State Bar or where it is that he is licensed from. They must take some action, I am not saying it will go anywhere. I am just saying that if say 150,000 complaints against the same Licensed attorney they have to take notice. </p>
<p>The Judicial Misconduct and Disability branch is designed to kind of say ok, nod, nod, wink, wink we understand what you are saying. The judges are there for life unless they are removed by some process or resign. Public Pressure will do a lot. And Bush was attempting to Pack the last &#8220;liberal&#8221; court, whatever that word means to you.</p>
<p>It means to me doing the right thing despite what a few special interest groups want. Remember they have an institution to protect. Themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49857</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals website information on Judicial Misconduct and Disability

http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/misconduct/judicial_misconduct.html

http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/index.html
________________

You mentioned Judge Roy Bean and when I first visited the 9ths website--weeks ago before you made that comment--I thought of him when I read how the 9th Circuit refers to its jurisdiction:

&quot;Federal Courts of the WEST&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals website information on Judicial Misconduct and Disability</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/misconduct/judicial_misconduct.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/misconduct/judicial_misconduct.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ce9.uscourts.gov/index.html</a><br />
________________</p>
<p>You mentioned Judge Roy Bean and when I first visited the 9ths website&#8211;weeks ago before you made that comment&#8211;I thought of him when I read how the 9th Circuit refers to its jurisdiction:</p>
<p>&#8220;Federal Courts of the WEST&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FF LEO,

You are most welcome. I wish that people could stay germane to the various issues on a subject and not cross over in other words keep the thread a sewin when we come a talkin. 

I know the purpose of Trolls and that is ok, so long as they trolled on the same subject. As much as SR tried to get under my skin I found it fun. Now with FD it is fun. I just wonder if FD and SR are one in the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FF LEO,</p>
<p>You are most welcome. I wish that people could stay germane to the various issues on a subject and not cross over in other words keep the thread a sewin when we come a talkin. </p>
<p>I know the purpose of Trolls and that is ok, so long as they trolled on the same subject. As much as SR tried to get under my skin I found it fun. Now with FD it is fun. I just wonder if FD and SR are one in the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AnonY:

Thank you for your reply, which helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AnonY:</p>
<p>Thank you for your reply, which helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FFLEO

From my understanding Congress can act with or with out any charges being filed. Of course with the House filing the charges. 

The continuing qualifications to maintain being a licensed attorney to practice in the state or territory is still in effect. They must pay the bar dues and keep up the CLE&#039;s unless excused. So if a complaint is made against a Judge who has to be a licensed attorney it should start with the Displinary Board or what ever the states equivalent is. You can file a complaint and never even have met him. 

Also, Yale had an article in 06 I believe that allows congress to summarily remove a sitting Federal Judge without impeachment proceedings

&quot;Given the long tradition of adjudicating misbehavior in the ordinary courts, Congress may enact necessary and proper legislation permitting the removal of federal judges upon a finding of misbehavior in the ordinary courts of law.&quot;

So if he is found guilty of criminal behavior in a court of law he may be summiraly removed from office.

Link: http://www.yalelawjournal.org/116/1/72_saikrishna_prakash_steven_d_smith.html

Side Notes:

With respect to Federal Judges, I am not sure that they have to be licensed attorneys to tell you the truth. I say that because the license and regulation is a pretty new concept in history. I have heard that the first Sct Judges were not licensed they had only and not all had graduated from law school. 

You have probably heard of Judge Roy Bean, the Law west of the Pecos. He was real by the way. He was not licensed nor had he gone to law school. He was a Justice of the Peace. Here in Texas they still do not have to be an attorney, you could run.

The Law in Texas used to be an apprenticeship as well as in a number of other states. It was not until the 70s before you had to even graduate from a law school in Texas.

I am of the impression that the US Sct is called by the call of the President. History is full funness, one of the cases that a lot of the power of the Sct rest on is Marberry vs Madison, that was one of the most polictcal cases ever. It is my understanding that they had not been called in to secession for 2 years because of the fueding bewteen the president and congress. That is why you have a blank between 1801 and 1803. Jefferson was not well liked by a number of people.

This fued was further excelled because the President and Veep ran separately and the one with the most votes won. So there was a lot of stagnation between the President and Vice President.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFLEO</p>
<p>From my understanding Congress can act with or with out any charges being filed. Of course with the House filing the charges. </p>
<p>The continuing qualifications to maintain being a licensed attorney to practice in the state or territory is still in effect. They must pay the bar dues and keep up the CLE&#8217;s unless excused. So if a complaint is made against a Judge who has to be a licensed attorney it should start with the Displinary Board or what ever the states equivalent is. You can file a complaint and never even have met him. </p>
<p>Also, Yale had an article in 06 I believe that allows congress to summarily remove a sitting Federal Judge without impeachment proceedings</p>
<p>&#8220;Given the long tradition of adjudicating misbehavior in the ordinary courts, Congress may enact necessary and proper legislation permitting the removal of federal judges upon a finding of misbehavior in the ordinary courts of law.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if he is found guilty of criminal behavior in a court of law he may be summiraly removed from office.</p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://www.yalelawjournal.org/116/1/72_saikrishna_prakash_steven_d_smith.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.yalelawjournal.org/116/1/72_saikrishna_prakash_steven_d_smith.html</a></p>
<p>Side Notes:</p>
<p>With respect to Federal Judges, I am not sure that they have to be licensed attorneys to tell you the truth. I say that because the license and regulation is a pretty new concept in history. I have heard that the first Sct Judges were not licensed they had only and not all had graduated from law school. </p>
<p>You have probably heard of Judge Roy Bean, the Law west of the Pecos. He was real by the way. He was not licensed nor had he gone to law school. He was a Justice of the Peace. Here in Texas they still do not have to be an attorney, you could run.</p>
<p>The Law in Texas used to be an apprenticeship as well as in a number of other states. It was not until the 70s before you had to even graduate from a law school in Texas.</p>
<p>I am of the impression that the US Sct is called by the call of the President. History is full funness, one of the cases that a lot of the power of the Sct rest on is Marberry vs Madison, that was one of the most polictcal cases ever. It is my understanding that they had not been called in to secession for 2 years because of the fueding bewteen the president and congress. That is why you have a blank between 1801 and 1803. Jefferson was not well liked by a number of people.</p>
<p>This fued was further excelled because the President and Veep ran separately and the one with the most votes won. So there was a lot of stagnation between the President and Vice President.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49843</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AnonY,

Your link provides names but not the process as per my questions above, q.v.  Are you aware of an explanation of what the process is if/when Judge Bybee is investigated and then given any options to resign or removed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AnonY,</p>
<p>Your link provides names but not the process as per my questions above, q.v.  Are you aware of an explanation of what the process is if/when Judge Bybee is investigated and then given any options to resign or removed?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately FRCP 11 only applies to papers filed with the court. However this goes to the fitness to act as an attorney and more so his propensity to lie when pressed to do the right thins which go more towards his fitness as a officer of the court hence a judge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately FRCP 11 only applies to papers filed with the court. However this goes to the fitness to act as an attorney and more so his propensity to lie when pressed to do the right thins which go more towards his fitness as a officer of the court hence a judge.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob, Esq.</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob, Esq.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Judge Jay S. Bybee appears to have adopted the Alberto Gonzalez defense: he is now claiming that he did not write his infamous memo and only signed it.&quot;

DUTY TO READ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Judge Jay S. Bybee appears to have adopted the Alberto Gonzalez defense: he is now claiming that he did not write his infamous memo and only signed it.&#8221;</p>
<p>DUTY TO READ.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49835</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks AY.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks AY.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Appleton</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Appleton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As was pointed out by Atticus, Judge Bybee&#039;s execution of the document constituted a representation by him that it fairly and accurately set forth the state of the law on the subject of the memorandum.  That he may not have personally done the drafting or any of the research is wholly immaterial. I seriously doubt that he would ever publicly espouse this so-called &quot;defense&quot; because that would only intensify the criticism.  I don&#039;t imagine that he wishes the label of &quot;hypocrite&quot; to be added to the descriptions of his work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As was pointed out by Atticus, Judge Bybee&#8217;s execution of the document constituted a representation by him that it fairly and accurately set forth the state of the law on the subject of the memorandum.  That he may not have personally done the drafting or any of the research is wholly immaterial. I seriously doubt that he would ever publicly espouse this so-called &#8220;defense&#8221; because that would only intensify the criticism.  I don&#8217;t imagine that he wishes the label of &#8220;hypocrite&#8221; to be added to the descriptions of his work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judges Impeached by the US House and Tried by the Senate.

http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/topics_ji_bdy

Ain&#039;t the internet wonderful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judges Impeached by the US House and Tried by the Senate.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/topics_ji_bdy" rel="nofollow">http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/topics_ji_bdy</a></p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t the internet wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atticus,
Is your name based on Atticus Finch?  Mockingbird was one of my favorite &quot;attorney&quot; stories.
Bybee would never get away with that defense if he was arguing it in front of a real judge.  It is way past time that Bybee should be brought up on impeachment charges.  Can anyone tell me if a sitting judge can be brought up on criminal charges or does he have to be impeached first?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atticus,<br />
Is your name based on Atticus Finch?  Mockingbird was one of my favorite &#8220;attorney&#8221; stories.<br />
Bybee would never get away with that defense if he was arguing it in front of a real judge.  It is way past time that Bybee should be brought up on impeachment charges.  Can anyone tell me if a sitting judge can be brought up on criminal charges or does he have to be impeached first?</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I reside under the 9th  Circuit&#039;s jurisdiction. I request some information on Judge Bybee’s status if an investigation ensues.

Are ‘appointed for life’ judges subject to administrative leave during criminal investigations of them?

If so—or if Judge Bybee resigns—who fills his position and what is the process?

Are any pre-investigation/prosecution decisions rendered by the 9th circuit ‘tainted’ if Judge Bybee is investigated, prosecuted and then found guilty?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reside under the 9th  Circuit&#8217;s jurisdiction. I request some information on Judge Bybee’s status if an investigation ensues.</p>
<p>Are ‘appointed for life’ judges subject to administrative leave during criminal investigations of them?</p>
<p>If so—or if Judge Bybee resigns—who fills his position and what is the process?</p>
<p>Are any pre-investigation/prosecution decisions rendered by the 9th circuit ‘tainted’ if Judge Bybee is investigated, prosecuted and then found guilty?</p>
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		<title>By: Atticus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Atticus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judge Bybee should be familiar with Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge Bybee should be familiar with Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11.</p>
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		<title>By: Dredd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dredd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The empty suit&quot; or empty principle defense.

Which time was it, when he wrote down his principles, let someone else write his principles for him, or when he would not stand up for his principles?

This is the getaway car driver explaining to the judge that he did not pull the trigger and therefore the charges should be dismissed.

Pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The empty suit&#8221; or empty principle defense.</p>
<p>Which time was it, when he wrote down his principles, let someone else write his principles for him, or when he would not stand up for his principles?</p>
<p>This is the getaway car driver explaining to the judge that he did not pull the trigger and therefore the charges should be dismissed.</p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 13:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he in fact did what he claims to have done, is there anymore grounds for Impeachment by Congress? Is this not an ineffective counsel defense that can be used? Would he just sign documents that come across his desk, the bench? 

However, I believe a request for Investigation can be asked for in the state in which he is licensed as well as the Judicial Tenure Commission or what ever is the same type of agency that polices Judges and Lawyers in the state that he is licensed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he in fact did what he claims to have done, is there anymore grounds for Impeachment by Congress? Is this not an ineffective counsel defense that can be used? Would he just sign documents that come across his desk, the bench? </p>
<p>However, I believe a request for Investigation can be asked for in the state in which he is licensed as well as the Judicial Tenure Commission or what ever is the same type of agency that polices Judges and Lawyers in the state that he is licensed.</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FRANK RICH
 The Banality of Bush White House Evil 
Torture was a tool in the campaign to exploit 9/11 so that fearful Americans would support a war that had nothing to do with Al Qaeda.

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.html
&quot;click the second link on the page in the middle.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FRANK RICH<br />
 The Banality of Bush White House Evil<br />
Torture was a tool in the campaign to exploit 9/11 so that fearful Americans would support a war that had nothing to do with Al Qaeda.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/pages/opinion/index.html</a><br />
&#8220;click the second link on the page in the middle.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rich: The Banality of Evil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich: The Banality of Evil</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The statments of Bybee are not credible.  If he did not want to sign the memo he had the option of resigning.  He did not take that option.  To not resign would be dereliction of duty.  He knew exactly what he was signing, he just didn&#039;t care.  Now he&#039;s caught and his career is jeprodized.  He&#039;s doing what the rest of these awful people are doing--throwing out one excuse after another, hoping one of them will work.  

These people are all cowards,  They claim to &quot;love&quot; America.  If Dick Cheney loved America he would say: &quot;I broke the law because I thought it was the only way to go.  Now I am willing to submit myself before a court of law to answer for my crimes.  I see him spouting part A everywhere, just as Pat Buchannan did in the Hardball interview.  What I see none of these supposed patriots saying is the corrollary to their argument.   They do not say I believe in the rule of law so strongly that I will submit myself immediately to the court for judgement.  That gives the lie to any sincereity of their so called patriotism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statments of Bybee are not credible.  If he did not want to sign the memo he had the option of resigning.  He did not take that option.  To not resign would be dereliction of duty.  He knew exactly what he was signing, he just didn&#8217;t care.  Now he&#8217;s caught and his career is jeprodized.  He&#8217;s doing what the rest of these awful people are doing&#8211;throwing out one excuse after another, hoping one of them will work.  </p>
<p>These people are all cowards,  They claim to &#8220;love&#8221; America.  If Dick Cheney loved America he would say: &#8220;I broke the law because I thought it was the only way to go.  Now I am willing to submit myself before a court of law to answer for my crimes.  I see him spouting part A everywhere, just as Pat Buchannan did in the Hardball interview.  What I see none of these supposed patriots saying is the corrollary to their argument.   They do not say I believe in the rule of law so strongly that I will submit myself immediately to the court for judgement.  That gives the lie to any sincereity of their so called patriotism.</p>
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		<title>By: FORMER DEM</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/26/the-alberto-gonzales-defense-judge-bybee-reportedly-denies-that-he-wrote-infamous-memo/#comment-49739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FORMER DEM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me be clear. It is my recollection that:

– The chairs and the ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Four, were briefed that the CIA was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists.

– We understood what the CIA was doing.
– We gave the CIA our bipartisan support.
– We gave the CIA funding to carry out its activities.
– On a bipartisan basis, we asked if the CIA needed more support from Congress to carry out its mission against al-Qaeda.

I do not recall a single objection from my colleagues.”

^^^Porter Goss public statement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me be clear. It is my recollection that:</p>
<p>– The chairs and the ranking minority members of the House and Senate intelligence committees, known as the Gang of Four, were briefed that the CIA was holding and interrogating high-value terrorists.</p>
<p>– We understood what the CIA was doing.<br />
– We gave the CIA our bipartisan support.<br />
– We gave the CIA funding to carry out its activities.<br />
– On a bipartisan basis, we asked if the CIA needed more support from Congress to carry out its mission against al-Qaeda.</p>
<p>I do not recall a single objection from my colleagues.”</p>
<p>^^^Porter Goss public statement.</p>
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		<title>By: bdaman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bdaman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bybee is just doing what they all do. Lie,lie,lie backed up by deny,deny,deny.

We have been lead to believe so many things over the last 8 years, plus 100 days that it really makes alot of sense. From WMD&#039;s to Obama being a teacher of constitutional law. As Mr. T use to say, &quot;I pity the fools&quot;. Lying is just not for breakfast anymore, it&#039;s become the main course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bybee is just doing what they all do. Lie,lie,lie backed up by deny,deny,deny.</p>
<p>We have been lead to believe so many things over the last 8 years, plus 100 days that it really makes alot of sense. From WMD&#8217;s to Obama being a teacher of constitutional law. As Mr. T use to say, &#8220;I pity the fools&#8221;. Lying is just not for breakfast anymore, it&#8217;s become the main course.</p>
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