Comments on: United States Diverts French Flight Due to Presence of a “No-Fly” Passenger: An Author Critical of the United States http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/ Res ipsa loquitur ("The thing itself speaks") Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:48:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: rafflaw http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50438 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:09:11 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50438 AY,
I still say investigate and prosecute. Torture would not even be right for those who tortured. Secondly, clean up the do not fly list and put all Bush administration officials on it.

]]> By: Anonymously Yours http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50427 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:45:33 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50427 Rafflaw,

Why waste the money to have a trial and prosecute the ones that have already admitted to Permitting Torture. That seems like a waste of money and taxpayer dollars. we could save that money and use it in the following ways.

How about we have them flogged and quatered or pulled slowly across an asphalt road during 100 degrees weather or tied down in the desert with honey dribbled on them and a water bucket just out of reach while the ants are swarming.

Now those that survive then they are hung.by their feet while being forced to watch the movies of others being tortured.

I believe that this would save taxpayer a lot of money. What would you suggest?

Then we take care of the no fly list?

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]]> By: rafflaw http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50425 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:17:33 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50425 Prosecute the torturers first then clean up the no fly list.

]]> By: Alex http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50410 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:45:32 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50410 1 million entries means a lot more than 1 million people. Names are not unique in any way, for example there are 18 “Frank Smith” or “Frank Smythe” listed on Wikipedia, and more “John Smith”s than I care to count. A real example from the no fly & watch list is that it’s reported that there are over 7000 Americans who match the entry ‘T Kennedy’. One of those who was stopped was a certain Edward ‘Ted’ Kennedy.

The whole no fly / watch list is nothing but security theatre.
The majority of terrorist acts are performed by previously unknown people, who have no previous terrorist activity, that includes almost all of the 9/11 hijackers, as well as Timothy McVeigh & Terry Nichols.

]]> By: Anonymously Yours http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50368 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:50:24 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50368 Can I say, without Offending anyone: McCarthyism at its finest hour.

]]> By: Ray http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50365 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:40:08 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50365 The airlines are provided the watch list names, and obviously the airline submitted their manifest to the US for review, since the US refused to allow the aircraft into its airspace. Sounds to me like the airline screwed up and suffered the consequences.
And as for Jill’s post of her “source” saying there are 1 million names on the government’s watch list – according to public sources and government statements, there are around 1 million ENTRIES on the various watch lists – but there are MULTIPLE versions of many individuals’ names due to variations in translationof non-western names as well as intentionally falsified names used by some individuals.

]]> By: Big Fella http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50348 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:44:12 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50348 Oh, oh, JT, better be careful yourself about what you might publish or say on one of your TV appearances, unless of course you are prepared to give up air travel for Amtrak. ;-)

]]> By: Jill http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50273 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:11:03 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50273 ” RAISING FLAGS

Entries on the government’s terrorist watch list:

May 2005: 288,000

May 2007: 755,000

March 2009: 1 million

Source: Justice Department; Government Accountablity Office” (USA today) also see the ACLU’s terroist watch list counter:

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/watchlistcounter.html

We are facing a test as a nation. We are allowing our govt. to restrict our civil liberties, we allow our govt. to mistreat detainees, we allow our govt. to ignore war crimes,. To bar someone who actually acts as a journalist should by investigating agencies known for going outside the law is an outrage. The only danger this man poses is to govt. secrecy about CIA wrong doing. We have to face what is going on. We have to face it squarely. Tyranny flourishes when people refuse to look at the truth.

]]> By: Dredd http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50255 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:37 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50255 Some folks do not seem to know how offensive the truth is.

He needs some sensitivity training.

]]> By: Superskepticalman http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50225 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:28:47 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50225 No… malignant stupidity never dies; like a virus, it pops back up when a society’s health gets bad. The Bush Administration: viral host.

]]> By: Anonymously Yours http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/28/united-states-diverts-french-flight-due-to-presence-of-a-no-fly-passenger-an-author-critical-of-the-united-states/#comment-50224 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:22:12 +0000 http://jonathanturley.org/?p=10413#comment-50224 And to think that McCarthyism really ever died.

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