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		<title>By: kay sieverding</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kay sieverding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The United Nations Covenant on Civil and Political Rights prohibits imprisonment for acts that aren&#039;t defined as criminal in international law.   Why don&#039;t our courts rely on this document to supplement other documents and to protect us from criminals in government and criminals in our courts?

http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cpr.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United Nations Covenant on Civil and Political Rights prohibits imprisonment for acts that aren&#8217;t defined as criminal in international law.   Why don&#8217;t our courts rely on this document to supplement other documents and to protect us from criminals in government and criminals in our courts?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cpr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hrweb.org/legal/cpr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary T</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 06:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet the S.Ct. sez this isn&#039;t an 8th Am. Violation.

I guess not now, because although it is obviously cruel, it is no longer unusual.

I know that if my child were sentenced to decades in prison for a non-violent, non-consequential &#039;crime&#039;, I would not sit idly by and curse the heavens. 
These draconian sentences are effectively death penalties by attrition.
What would any parent do if their child was going to be taken away from them forever, and transposed into a violent, brutal existence for the rest of their days.
When the highest court in the land says this is acceptable, when it clearly is unjust, and there are no other courts of appeal, at some point the damn is going to burst. Out of 300 million people, I am surprised that there hasn&#039;t already been a more public expression of anguish in response to such unjust unappealable sentences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet the S.Ct. sez this isn&#8217;t an 8th Am. Violation.</p>
<p>I guess not now, because although it is obviously cruel, it is no longer unusual.</p>
<p>I know that if my child were sentenced to decades in prison for a non-violent, non-consequential &#8216;crime&#8217;, I would not sit idly by and curse the heavens.<br />
These draconian sentences are effectively death penalties by attrition.<br />
What would any parent do if their child was going to be taken away from them forever, and transposed into a violent, brutal existence for the rest of their days.<br />
When the highest court in the land says this is acceptable, when it clearly is unjust, and there are no other courts of appeal, at some point the damn is going to burst. Out of 300 million people, I am surprised that there hasn&#8217;t already been a more public expression of anguish in response to such unjust unappealable sentences.</p>
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		<title>By: Bron98</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bron98]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buddha:

I am glad someone agrees with me on the meat in KC and the midwest in general being way above the rest.  I used to live in St. Louis and when I came out east I noticed 2 things - the women are not as pretty and the meat sucks, both pig and cow.  I dont know if there is a correlation but on observation only, well who knows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddha:</p>
<p>I am glad someone agrees with me on the meat in KC and the midwest in general being way above the rest.  I used to live in St. Louis and when I came out east I noticed 2 things &#8211; the women are not as pretty and the meat sucks, both pig and cow.  I dont know if there is a correlation but on observation only, well who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 19:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Mike.

And yes, we do have the best meat in the country. :D  All that much better for making the best BBQ in the country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Mike.</p>
<p>And yes, we do have the best meat in the country. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   All that much better for making the best BBQ in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 18:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buddha,
  Welcome back. Vacation is not an option, especially when you live in beautiful KC, the place with the best meat in the country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddha,<br />
  Welcome back. Vacation is not an option, especially when you live in beautiful KC, the place with the best meat in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 18:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Texas, which in some ways considers itself the most Christian State, has proven to be the least compassionate state. The entire world to I would assume a majority of Texans exists in a state of good, or evil. What they define as evil is framed by their inability to see gradations of behavior, or a hierarchy of offenses. At the same time they can&#039;t imagine any miscarriages of justice harming them. The put complete faith in their LEO&#039;s and their prosecutors, but distrust all of the rest of government.

Eniobob, thanks for the link, if any police officer deserved to be in Texas it would be Arpaio. Actually, if any police officer deserved to be in jail it would also be Arpaio.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas, which in some ways considers itself the most Christian State, has proven to be the least compassionate state. The entire world to I would assume a majority of Texans exists in a state of good, or evil. What they define as evil is framed by their inability to see gradations of behavior, or a hierarchy of offenses. At the same time they can&#8217;t imagine any miscarriages of justice harming them. The put complete faith in their LEO&#8217;s and their prosecutors, but distrust all of the rest of government.</p>
<p>Eniobob, thanks for the link, if any police officer deserved to be in Texas it would be Arpaio. Actually, if any police officer deserved to be in jail it would also be Arpaio.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 16:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[raff and eniobob,

Thanks, it&#039;s good to be back.  That&#039;s what I get for taking a vacation week before last: a solid week of physical life interfering with my digital life!  There is no rest for the wicked . . . or words to that effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raff and eniobob,</p>
<p>Thanks, it&#8217;s good to be back.  That&#8217;s what I get for taking a vacation week before last: a solid week of physical life interfering with my digital life!  There is no rest for the wicked . . . or words to that effect.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 16:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buddha,
Let me echo eniobob&#039;s remarks.  Welcome back from your hiatus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddha,<br />
Let me echo eniobob&#8217;s remarks.  Welcome back from your hiatus.</p>
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		<title>By: Bron98</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bron98]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 15:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like the poor guy ought to be given some money to attend an auto mechanic school.  It would certainly be cheaper than 60 years in prison and he would be paying taxes for at least 30 years, not using them up.

Is there something in the water in Texas?  Or does this kind of thing go on everywhere?
If it does then there is something wrong with our legal system.  

I now know what my retirement plan is going to be - go to Texas and steal 3 apples in each of three weeks at the age of 80.  I will get 3 squares a day a warm bed and plenty of time to read.  That way I save my estate for the children and the Texas State Penal System has to pay for all my medications, and health care requirements thereby freeing up assets for my children and grandchildren (if there are any).

I love it when a good plan falls into place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the poor guy ought to be given some money to attend an auto mechanic school.  It would certainly be cheaper than 60 years in prison and he would be paying taxes for at least 30 years, not using them up.</p>
<p>Is there something in the water in Texas?  Or does this kind of thing go on everywhere?<br />
If it does then there is something wrong with our legal system.  </p>
<p>I now know what my retirement plan is going to be &#8211; go to Texas and steal 3 apples in each of three weeks at the age of 80.  I will get 3 squares a day a warm bed and plenty of time to read.  That way I save my estate for the children and the Texas State Penal System has to pay for all my medications, and health care requirements thereby freeing up assets for my children and grandchildren (if there are any).</p>
<p>I love it when a good plan falls into place.</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 15:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buddah:

Good to have you back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddah:</p>
<p>Good to have you back.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 15:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sarcasm is thick today.  Is it just me or is everything stupid and crazy that happens in this country happening in Texas?
Prof. Turley used the correct word to describe the additional sentence, &quot;absurb&quot;!  But when it happens in Texas the correct word to describe the additional sentence is &quot;Texas normal&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sarcasm is thick today.  Is it just me or is everything stupid and crazy that happens in this country happening in Texas?<br />
Prof. Turley used the correct word to describe the additional sentence, &#8220;absurb&#8221;!  But when it happens in Texas the correct word to describe the additional sentence is &#8220;Texas normal&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 15:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eniobob,

Well . . . that wasn&#039;t what I was expecting, but as disturbing as it was, it was not surprising given you are talking about Arpaio.  He should be an honorary . . . er, um, Texan jurist.

Disclaimer: I&#039;m using the term &quot;Texan jurist&quot; as invective directed solely at Arpaio and should not be construed to imply that AY is a Nazi.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eniobob,</p>
<p>Well . . . that wasn&#8217;t what I was expecting, but as disturbing as it was, it was not surprising given you are talking about Arpaio.  He should be an honorary . . . er, um, Texan jurist.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I&#8217;m using the term &#8220;Texan jurist&#8221; as invective directed solely at Arpaio and should not be construed to imply that AY is a Nazi.</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 14:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I swore to myself that I would rest on the &quot;SEVENTH&quot;day,but since this is about the justice system.

I thought that I would throw a three fingered slider.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/joe-arpaio-and-nazis-there-working-r]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swore to myself that I would rest on the &#8220;SEVENTH&#8221;day,but since this is about the justice system.</p>
<p>I thought that I would throw a three fingered slider.</p>
<p><a href="http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/joe-arpaio-and-nazis-there-working-r" rel="nofollow">http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/joe-arpaio-and-nazis-there-working-r</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 11:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And to think that a man is serving a life sentence for &quot;eating grapes at a grocery store&quot; I kid you not.

I thought there was something in the truth in sentencing law. Oh, that only applies if they are enhancing your sentence, I am sorry.

This is the type of crapola that make a minor criminal take drastic actions in some cases. What oh what would Mr. Twist be doing today. Mere crumbs in comparison. 

Disclaimer.

The response was written without the use of profanity, although many words came to mind and finger, but great restraint was used in not placing any offensive or abusive language. Not to say that it was not implied nor meant. Not single person was singled out as a target of my wrath, groups were mostly eliminated. 

The use of Latin, pig Latin and any references to Sr. Dana Hefner (Hugh Cousin) were  intentionally omitted as it is too early.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think that a man is serving a life sentence for &#8220;eating grapes at a grocery store&#8221; I kid you not.</p>
<p>I thought there was something in the truth in sentencing law. Oh, that only applies if they are enhancing your sentence, I am sorry.</p>
<p>This is the type of crapola that make a minor criminal take drastic actions in some cases. What oh what would Mr. Twist be doing today. Mere crumbs in comparison. </p>
<p>Disclaimer.</p>
<p>The response was written without the use of profanity, although many words came to mind and finger, but great restraint was used in not placing any offensive or abusive language. Not to say that it was not implied nor meant. Not single person was singled out as a target of my wrath, groups were mostly eliminated. </p>
<p>The use of Latin, pig Latin and any references to Sr. Dana Hefner (Hugh Cousin) were  intentionally omitted as it is too early.</p>
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