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	<title>Comments on: Descent Into Crime: Montreal Woman Handcuffed and Thrown into Cell for Failing To Hold Escalator Handrail</title>
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		<title>By: Purveyor of Iniquities &#8250; Links for May 19th</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/18/descent-into-crime-montreal-woman-handcuffed-and-thrown-into-cell-for-failing-to-hold-escalator-handrail/#comment-54319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Purveyor of Iniquities &#8250; Links for May 19th]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Descent Into Crime: Montreal Woman Handcuffed and Thrown into Cell for Failing To Hold Escalator Han...Bela Kosoian, 38, is a handrail felon. The mother of two was taking an escalator down to the Montreal subway on her way to Universit&#233; du Qu&#233;bec &#224; Montreal, where she studies international law. She ended up handcuffed and held in a small cell for not holding the handrail on the escalator.(overcrim ) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Descent Into Crime: Montreal Woman Handcuffed and Thrown into Cell for Failing To Hold Escalator Han&#8230;Bela Kosoian, 38, is a handrail felon. The mother of two was taking an escalator down to the Montreal subway on her way to Universit&eacute; du Qu&eacute;bec &agrave; Montreal, where she studies international law. She ended up handcuffed and held in a small cell for not holding the handrail on the escalator.(overcrim ) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Not Sarah Palin</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/18/descent-into-crime-montreal-woman-handcuffed-and-thrown-into-cell-for-failing-to-hold-escalator-handrail/#comment-54173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Sarah Palin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 01:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You all afraid of Germs? Well come on to Alaska, very few germs and we generally eat what we shoot. Come on. I hear that they have mosquito spray somewhere in New Hampshire about 20,000 rounds to be exact.

Just send it over here. We teach our children young about sex and safe shooting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all afraid of Germs? Well come on to Alaska, very few germs and we generally eat what we shoot. Come on. I hear that they have mosquito spray somewhere in New Hampshire about 20,000 rounds to be exact.</p>
<p>Just send it over here. We teach our children young about sex and safe shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: GWLawSchoolMom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GWLawSchoolMom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Queen

You wrote:  **To quote the article:
As for fears of catching another flu, a leading germ expert says you are more likely to fall down an escalator than catch illness from a handrail. “No matter how dirty your hands become, all you have to do to avoid getting ill is wash your hands,” said Dr. Philip Tierno, the author of The Secret Life of Germs.

Silly me – I had no idea Montreal subways were equipped with sinks to wash your hands after holding onto a grimy handrail.**

I don&#039;t touch most handrails either unless fear drives me to do so.  I have this thing about heights. I kind of have to hang on to the Foggy Bottom metro stop handrail.... it&#039;s just too steep but most mall escalators are within my ability to tough it out. I don&#039;t usually press the buttons on elevators unless I am alone  and I never touch public bathroom door knobs.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;m OCD or anything, but since I started keeping my hands in my pockets and away from my face and using paper towels to open bathroom doors I haven&#039;t gotten sick. Yup. three years without a cold or the flu. I also stay away from the malls between thanksgiving and super bowl sunday. It isn&#039;t that I avoid the public, but public behavior can be so unseemly.  
Anyway, that&#039;s what stuff like Purell was invented for, those times when hot soapy water is scarce. It&#039;s relatively inexpensive and fits nicely in my handbags.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queen</p>
<p>You wrote:  **To quote the article:<br />
As for fears of catching another flu, a leading germ expert says you are more likely to fall down an escalator than catch illness from a handrail. “No matter how dirty your hands become, all you have to do to avoid getting ill is wash your hands,” said Dr. Philip Tierno, the author of The Secret Life of Germs.</p>
<p>Silly me – I had no idea Montreal subways were equipped with sinks to wash your hands after holding onto a grimy handrail.**</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t touch most handrails either unless fear drives me to do so.  I have this thing about heights. I kind of have to hang on to the Foggy Bottom metro stop handrail&#8230;. it&#8217;s just too steep but most mall escalators are within my ability to tough it out. I don&#8217;t usually press the buttons on elevators unless I am alone  and I never touch public bathroom door knobs.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m OCD or anything, but since I started keeping my hands in my pockets and away from my face and using paper towels to open bathroom doors I haven&#8217;t gotten sick. Yup. three years without a cold or the flu. I also stay away from the malls between thanksgiving and super bowl sunday. It isn&#8217;t that I avoid the public, but public behavior can be so unseemly.<br />
Anyway, that&#8217;s what stuff like Purell was invented for, those times when hot soapy water is scarce. It&#8217;s relatively inexpensive and fits nicely in my handbags.</p>
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		<title>By: Queen of Sheba</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/18/descent-into-crime-montreal-woman-handcuffed-and-thrown-into-cell-for-failing-to-hold-escalator-handrail/#comment-54142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Queen of Sheba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The woman said she was looking for the fare in her backpack and didn&#039;t want to hold onto the handrail anyway because she feared catching an illness.

To quote the article:
As for fears of catching another flu, a leading germ expert says you are more likely to fall down an escalator than catch illness from a handrail.  “No matter how dirty your hands become, all you have to do to avoid getting ill is wash your hands,” said Dr. Philip Tierno, the author of The Secret Life of Germs.

Silly me - I had no idea Montreal subways were equipped with sinks to wash your hands after holding onto a grimy handrail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The woman said she was looking for the fare in her backpack and didn&#8217;t want to hold onto the handrail anyway because she feared catching an illness.</p>
<p>To quote the article:<br />
As for fears of catching another flu, a leading germ expert says you are more likely to fall down an escalator than catch illness from a handrail.  “No matter how dirty your hands become, all you have to do to avoid getting ill is wash your hands,” said Dr. Philip Tierno, the author of The Secret Life of Germs.</p>
<p>Silly me &#8211; I had no idea Montreal subways were equipped with sinks to wash your hands after holding onto a grimy handrail.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/18/descent-into-crime-montreal-woman-handcuffed-and-thrown-into-cell-for-failing-to-hold-escalator-handrail/#comment-54112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have quit touching any hand rails ever since I saw a woman leave the restroom at the mall without washing her hands. She had also stood in front of the mirror and blew her nose, checked her makeup, then left!! She then walked down the stairs, moving her disgusting hand all down the handrail. I wanted to throw up as I watched her get in line to order a meal from McDonalds in the food court. 
Who does that stuff? Apparently, some people do!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have quit touching any hand rails ever since I saw a woman leave the restroom at the mall without washing her hands. She had also stood in front of the mirror and blew her nose, checked her makeup, then left!! She then walked down the stairs, moving her disgusting hand all down the handrail. I wanted to throw up as I watched her get in line to order a meal from McDonalds in the food court.<br />
Who does that stuff? Apparently, some people do!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/18/descent-into-crime-montreal-woman-handcuffed-and-thrown-into-cell-for-failing-to-hold-escalator-handrail/#comment-54110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well at least we gave up on the ideal of having to pay Poll Taxes and Landownership in order to vote? Now lookie what they want us to do.

You know, R.I. Can still own slaves?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least we gave up on the ideal of having to pay Poll Taxes and Landownership in order to vote? Now lookie what they want us to do.</p>
<p>You know, R.I. Can still own slaves?</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/18/descent-into-crime-montreal-woman-handcuffed-and-thrown-into-cell-for-failing-to-hold-escalator-handrail/#comment-54109</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is another gem for you all to digest.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/18/AR2009051800966.html?hpid=topnews]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another gem for you all to digest.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/18/AR2009051800966.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/18/AR2009051800966.html?hpid=topnews</a></p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/18/descent-into-crime-montreal-woman-handcuffed-and-thrown-into-cell-for-failing-to-hold-escalator-handrail/#comment-54108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well this should be interesting reading for you all today,for I could think of no better place for this to be posted.Enjoy,I think.


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/25/090525fa_fact_toobin?currentPage=all]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this should be interesting reading for you all today,for I could think of no better place for this to be posted.Enjoy,I think.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/25/090525fa_fact_toobin?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/25/090525fa_fact_toobin?currentPage=all</a></p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Et tu, Canada?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Et tu, Canada?</p>
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		<title>By: CharlesC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CharlesC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somewhere John Stuart Mill is livid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere John Stuart Mill is livid.</p>
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		<title>By: rcampbell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rcampbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Escalator handrails, shopping carts and door opening devices (knobs, bars, handles, etal.) are about the most germ-laden things with which we come into contact.  With folks&#039; attention on H1N1, it&#039;s little wonder why a person would avoid touching them.  Then there&#039;s the whole issue of the Gestapo cop!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Escalator handrails, shopping carts and door opening devices (knobs, bars, handles, etal.) are about the most germ-laden things with which we come into contact.  With folks&#8217; attention on H1N1, it&#8217;s little wonder why a person would avoid touching them.  Then there&#8217;s the whole issue of the Gestapo cop!</p>
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		<title>By: Jericho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jericho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cop must be Louis de Funes or whoever. May those who judge be judged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cop must be Louis de Funes or whoever. May those who judge be judged.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you sure that this didn&#039;t happen in Texas? This sounds like the Texas type justice that we normally read about here on Prof. Turley&#039;s blog. Remind to use the stairs the next time I am in Montreal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure that this didn&#8217;t happen in Texas? This sounds like the Texas type justice that we normally read about here on Prof. Turley&#8217;s blog. Remind to use the stairs the next time I am in Montreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 11:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah Ha, I knew it, the French are at it again. No French Fries on the Subway. Would it have been different if they had been American Fries? 

Are we speaking of an American born Georgian? If so, they don&#039;t understand good French anyway. If we are speaking of a Former USSR Georgian? Then do we have a problem with communication.

The question  boils down to most people are to obey the lawful commands of a police officer. Defenses are impossibility, such as I did not hear or see you or understand you. 

I am sure they have a video that will disappear, which would exonerate our &quot;sister in law.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Ha, I knew it, the French are at it again. No French Fries on the Subway. Would it have been different if they had been American Fries? </p>
<p>Are we speaking of an American born Georgian? If so, they don&#8217;t understand good French anyway. If we are speaking of a Former USSR Georgian? Then do we have a problem with communication.</p>
<p>The question  boils down to most people are to obey the lawful commands of a police officer. Defenses are impossibility, such as I did not hear or see you or understand you. </p>
<p>I am sure they have a video that will disappear, which would exonerate our &#8220;sister in law.&#8221;</p>
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