Comments on: Five Lawyers Charged Over Settlement of Case Involving Former Detroit Mayor

By: Kwamegate Charges Still Surfacing « Cynical Synapse

Kwamegate Charges Still Surfacing « Cynical Synapse — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:46:16 +0000

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By: Mike Spindell

Mike Spindell — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:46:13 +0000

U. Ara Ripoff,
I suspect before you call someone a traitor you get a handle on some of the terms you throw around.

“Lets keep this about law, not politics.”

What law makes America Capitalist?
What law makes America Christian?

riddle me that, Batman.

By: U. Ara Ripoff

U. Ara Ripoff — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:27:32 +0000

Spindell spins a misleading and cruel yarn. Perhaps a traitor or one who deep down really hates the America we have know is someone who tries to trash capitalism, nationalize vast manufacturing, health and financial institutions, states we are not a Christian nation but are a Muslim nation, apologizes all over the globe for America’s behavior despite the hundreds of thousands of brave American soldiers buried in foreign fields in support of freedom (what’s why most of us speak English instead of German, Japanese or Arabic), promises to gut our military and surrender sovereignty to unelected international entities. Lets keep this about law, not politics.

By: Mike Spindell

Mike Spindell — Wed, 27 May 2009 17:17:01 +0000

Tom,
I don’t see why that is a surprise to you. After all, so far the legal system has protected a bunch of murderers, criminals, traitors and war profiteers, who led the last administration for eight years. Oh yes, lest I forget, these criminals were assisted by the votes of many of our fellow citizens, who in doing so, showed they hated America. now isn’t that awful that so many people could support such evil?

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 27 May 2009 17:07:00 +0000

It’s so nice to hear that the legal system wanted effectively to protect a perjurer from the practical consequences of his actions.

By: Mike Appleton

Mike Appleton — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:22:12 +0000

mespo, I’ve dealt with similar situations in civil theft cases. In Florida the remedies include treble damages. I usually recommend against the filing of criminal complaints because that will almost certainly foreclose the possibility of any meaningful recovery. I’d much rather negotiate payment terms than deal with the alternative, a defendant who is either in jail or on probation with a restitution order of $100.00 a month forever.

By: mespo727272

mespo727272 — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:12:54 +0000

Mike Appleton:

“mespo, I believe it was a form of civil extortion”

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I like to call it lawful coercion. Here in Richmond we had a lawyer brought up on criminal charges that he engaged in extortion by threatening to tell the IRS that an adverse litigant had failed to pay taxes on some income. He settled the case and inexplicably the other side notified the Commonwealth Attorney. The case was tried to a jury and after rounds of expert testimony the jury came back in less than 30 minutes with an acquittal. The jury foreperson was quoted as saying, “We all thought that’s what lawyers are supposed to do” for their clients. Smart man the foreperson.

By: Mike Appleton

Mike Appleton — Fri, 22 May 2009 16:00:45 +0000

mespo, I believe it was a form of civil extortion, the implied threat of criminal prosecution to achieve an advantage in the civil action. The plaintiff’s attorney had previously attempted to subpoena the documents. In response to an objection, the court had ruled that the emails could only be produced to the court. Plaintiff’s counsel then issued additional subpoenas for the same information, but without informing the court or opposing counsel.

By: mespo727272

mespo727272 — Fri, 22 May 2009 15:49:20 +0000

Look this is not criminal extortion, and I suspect this ethics complaint is going nowhere. In settlement negotiations, we have compromising information all the time that is bantered about in the hopes of winning a settlement. The lawyer is not the judge, and cannot determine guilt or innocence. He may realize the evidence is fraught with criminal implications, but burdening us to serve as lawyer and cop is beyond the pale. Sorry but my client’s interests come first and disclosing possible criminal conduct by the other side to the detriment of my client violates my ethics.

By: Mike Appleton

Mike Appleton — Fri, 22 May 2009 14:05:39 +0000

AY, you’re right. It was extortion. In addition, plaintiffs’ counsel obtained the emails in violation of an outstanding protective order.

By: Anonymously Yours

Anonymously Yours — Fri, 22 May 2009 14:02:25 +0000

I guess the Plaintiff’s attorney was kinda hit for extortion, failure to communicate, and duty to report another attorney.