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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Murderous Rage Raises Ire of PETA</title>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey PETA!!!!

Why not save your &quot;outrage&quot; for when it&#039;s appropriate.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-19-skinned-puppy-charges_N.htm?csp=34

Some things make me doubt whether our continuation as a species is a good idea.  This is one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey PETA!!!!</p>
<p>Why not save your &#8220;outrage&#8221; for when it&#8217;s appropriate.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-19-skinned-puppy-charges_N.htm?csp=34" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-19-skinned-puppy-charges_N.htm?csp=34</a></p>
<p>Some things make me doubt whether our continuation as a species is a good idea.  This is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotta&#039; see this lobbyist: 

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/19/fly-obama-apologize-palin-letterman/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta&#8217; see this lobbyist: </p>
<p><a href="http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/19/fly-obama-apologize-palin-letterman/" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/19/fly-obama-apologize-palin-letterman/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62811</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eniobob,

Thanks for the sweet link.  Those are actually awesome pictures from a technical standpoint.  It&#039;s hard to make a spider look beautiful instead of threatening (as is proper given their predatory nature), but they did it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eniobob,</p>
<p>Thanks for the sweet link.  Those are actually awesome pictures from a technical standpoint.  It&#8217;s hard to make a spider look beautiful instead of threatening (as is proper given their predatory nature), but they did it.</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62808</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buddha:

I think,Phidippus Clarus-Female,has the presidents back on this one.

http://villageofjoy.com/jumping-spider-goes-to-a-photo-session-15-pictures/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddha:</p>
<p>I think,Phidippus Clarus-Female,has the presidents back on this one.</p>
<p><a href="http://villageofjoy.com/jumping-spider-goes-to-a-photo-session-15-pictures/" rel="nofollow">http://villageofjoy.com/jumping-spider-goes-to-a-photo-session-15-pictures/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PETA may soon be a moot issue.  Here.  Proof that not all animals are cute and cuddly.  In fact, some of them act a lot like us.

http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/18/1336242]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA may soon be a moot issue.  Here.  Proof that not all animals are cute and cuddly.  In fact, some of them act a lot like us.</p>
<p><a href="http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/18/1336242" rel="nofollow">http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/18/1336242</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62566</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you freeze a Lobster before you boil it, is it capable of screaming as it cooks?

PETA= People Eating Tasty Animals. 

But it is better than swallowing a fly but I don&#039;t know why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you freeze a Lobster before you boil it, is it capable of screaming as it cooks?</p>
<p>PETA= People Eating Tasty Animals. </p>
<p>But it is better than swallowing a fly but I don&#8217;t know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Babam Haberdashery</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Babam Haberdashery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the President, kill the little sucker so he may continue his journey to enlightenment.  Freeing his soul was the act of a great man and I am sure the fly&#039;s soul is greatly relieved to be back on the journey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the President, kill the little sucker so he may continue his journey to enlightenment.  Freeing his soul was the act of a great man and I am sure the fly&#8217;s soul is greatly relieved to be back on the journey.</p>
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		<title>By: BuelahMan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62541</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BuelahMan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s the problem with using Tasers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the problem with using Tasers?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62518</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hans,
  I never thought of it that way but now that you mention it.......hmm. Underlying your statement of course is that PETA can really go off course in such a way that it destroys the validity of part of their efforts. I do believe that the biblical formulation of Humankind having dominion and therefore the right to treat inhumanely, all animals is incorrect. This is the underlying basis of the PETA argument and I agree. however, except for spiders which I try to capture and throw out the door alive, I will gladly kill any flying or crawling bug invading my territory. Do they have feelings? Who knows? However, just as they would do to interlopers in their territory, I will do when they interlope in mine. Spiders I try not to kill because they kill the other bugs. Even with spiders though, they had better stay out of my sight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hans,<br />
  I never thought of it that way but now that you mention it&#8230;&#8230;.hmm. Underlying your statement of course is that PETA can really go off course in such a way that it destroys the validity of part of their efforts. I do believe that the biblical formulation of Humankind having dominion and therefore the right to treat inhumanely, all animals is incorrect. This is the underlying basis of the PETA argument and I agree. however, except for spiders which I try to capture and throw out the door alive, I will gladly kill any flying or crawling bug invading my territory. Do they have feelings? Who knows? However, just as they would do to interlopers in their territory, I will do when they interlope in mine. Spiders I try not to kill because they kill the other bugs. Even with spiders though, they had better stay out of my sight.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62512</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve said it before, and I&#039;ll keep repeating it until I&#039;m well-known as that cranky old guy: PETA is so far removed from reality, they simply *have* to be a front for the meat industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it before, and I&#8217;ll keep repeating it until I&#8217;m well-known as that cranky old guy: PETA is so far removed from reality, they simply *have* to be a front for the meat industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, the fly had it commin&#039; 

Per FAA rules, all civilian aviators know that the White House skies are &quot;no-fly zones&quot;

Furthermore, flies are uncontrollably drawn to...corrupt, hypocritical politicians, and such as…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the fly had it commin&#8217; </p>
<p>Per FAA rules, all civilian aviators know that the White House skies are &#8220;no-fly zones&#8221;</p>
<p>Furthermore, flies are uncontrollably drawn to&#8230;corrupt, hypocritical politicians, and such as…</p>
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		<title>By: Gyges</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gyges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MAS,

 Exactly right. Also, why only treat animals ethically? What do they have against slime molds?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAS,</p>
<p> Exactly right. Also, why only treat animals ethically? What do they have against slime molds?</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jill &amp; Vince,

Thank you. :D One lives to be of service.

Jill,

If that wasn&#039;t a TZ episode, it should have been.

Whoolie,

I got to go with lotta.  Superfly could flip the President like a cheese omelet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill &amp; Vince,</p>
<p>Thank you. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  One lives to be of service.</p>
<p>Jill,</p>
<p>If that wasn&#8217;t a TZ episode, it should have been.</p>
<p>Whoolie,</p>
<p>I got to go with lotta.  Superfly could flip the President like a cheese omelet.</p>
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		<title>By: MASkeptic</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MASkeptic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PETA isn&#039;t doing this to &quot;express compassion&quot;, they&#039;re doing it for publicity. They benefit from the control of the insect population just like the rest of us. Or am I to believe that if their homes were infested that they would simply &#039;live and let live&#039;. Because after all the fleas, ticks, and roaches have a right to life too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA isn&#8217;t doing this to &#8220;express compassion&#8221;, they&#8217;re doing it for publicity. They benefit from the control of the insect population just like the rest of us. Or am I to believe that if their homes were infested that they would simply &#8216;live and let live&#8217;. Because after all the fleas, ticks, and roaches have a right to life too!</p>
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		<title>By: jlundell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jlundell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hopefully we can all learn a lesson from PETA&#039;s foolishness, and never embarrass ourselves by showing compassion for all life. At least we can count on Mr Turley to show us the error of our ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully we can all learn a lesson from PETA&#8217;s foolishness, and never embarrass ourselves by showing compassion for all life. At least we can count on Mr Turley to show us the error of our ways.</p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whooliebacon: ...superfly

LOL, Superfly could kick the Chief Executive&#039;s a**!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whooliebacon: &#8230;superfly</p>
<p>LOL, Superfly could kick the Chief Executive&#8217;s a**!</p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62495</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There are no insect politicians&quot;
        Seth Brundle, The Fly &#039;86

The &#039;86 remake was outstanding, Goldblum was likewise outstanding and his character was very smartly written. The dialog was excellent. Until the end I had trouble believing it was a Cronenberg movie. I love that movie. And Cronenberg.

From article:
PETA spokesman Bruce Friedrich issued a statement: “We support compassion even for the most curious, smallest and least sympathetic animals. We believe that people, where they can be compassionate, should be, for all animals.”

I don&#039;t have a problem with that statement. The world needs al little more of that attitude IMO. One of the coolest things about working with my various plants and in the yard is the insects. I avoid killing bugs whenever possible and have had to rescue and release more than one small flying insect from my kitty&#039;s after they (the bugs) had gotten into the house inadvertently.

We have little brown, compact spiders in the yard that look like crabs. I like &#039;em because they have attitude. They take no prisoners. I came across one that was about 1/8&quot; on a leaf and it turned it&#039;s body to follow the motion of my hand so I moved my body around it&#039;s leaf and it followed me. After I messed with it a while it got tired of being bothered and kind of reared up and put it&#039;s 2 front legs up in a &#039;threatening&#039; manner and quickly advanced on me. I moved around it&#039;s leaf again and it followed me in the same aggressive manner coming all the way to the edge of it&#039;s leaf. I had to LOL that little guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are no insect politicians&#8221;<br />
        Seth Brundle, The Fly &#8217;86</p>
<p>The &#8217;86 remake was outstanding, Goldblum was likewise outstanding and his character was very smartly written. The dialog was excellent. Until the end I had trouble believing it was a Cronenberg movie. I love that movie. And Cronenberg.</p>
<p>From article:<br />
PETA spokesman Bruce Friedrich issued a statement: “We support compassion even for the most curious, smallest and least sympathetic animals. We believe that people, where they can be compassionate, should be, for all animals.”</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with that statement. The world needs al little more of that attitude IMO. One of the coolest things about working with my various plants and in the yard is the insects. I avoid killing bugs whenever possible and have had to rescue and release more than one small flying insect from my kitty&#8217;s after they (the bugs) had gotten into the house inadvertently.</p>
<p>We have little brown, compact spiders in the yard that look like crabs. I like &#8216;em because they have attitude. They take no prisoners. I came across one that was about 1/8&#8243; on a leaf and it turned it&#8217;s body to follow the motion of my hand so I moved my body around it&#8217;s leaf and it followed me. After I messed with it a while it got tired of being bothered and kind of reared up and put it&#8217;s 2 front legs up in a &#8216;threatening&#8217; manner and quickly advanced on me. I moved around it&#8217;s leaf again and it followed me in the same aggressive manner coming all the way to the edge of it&#8217;s leaf. I had to LOL that little guy.</p>
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		<title>By: whooliebacon</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whooliebacon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Curtis Mayfield really angry.  Oh!  Never mind that was superfly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis Mayfield really angry.  Oh!  Never mind that was superfly.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Treacy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Treacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BIL, Thanks for the ROTFLOL.

For all, see the ending of the film The Fly, 1958, starring the immortal Vincent Price, or look it up on wiki.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIL, Thanks for the ROTFLOL.</p>
<p>For all, see the ending of the film The Fly, 1958, starring the immortal Vincent Price, or look it up on wiki.</p>
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		<title>By: LOUDelf</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LOUDelf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there a catch-and-release trap for politicians?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a catch-and-release trap for politicians?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62482</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good one Buddha!  LOL

Wasn&#039;t there a T-Zone episode where the person killed the spider and it just kept coming back after each kill, larger and larger every time?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one Buddha!  LOL</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t there a T-Zone episode where the person killed the spider and it just kept coming back after each kill, larger and larger every time?</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/18/obamas-murderous-rage-raises-ire-of-peta/#comment-62481</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you turn up the volume, you can hear the fly is screaming, &quot;Help me!  Help me!&quot;

Maybe one of Dick&#039;s experiments escaped from the basement.

On the other hand, Obama&#039;s totally lost the fly vote regardless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you turn up the volume, you can hear the fly is screaming, &#8220;Help me!  Help me!&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe one of Dick&#8217;s experiments escaped from the basement.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Obama&#8217;s totally lost the fly vote regardless.</p>
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