At the Boston Massacre, an unlikely figure emerged as one of the heros, a man of black or Indian parentage named Crispus Attucks. In Iran, women have played a key role in the protests and protesters have rallied around a female martyr named Neda Soltan, 26. Just as blacks in the United States were fighting from a position of slavery and discrimination, Iranian women have been throwing off of restrictions of the harsh Islamic regime and taken to the street. One such courageous young person was filmed as she died after being shot by Iranian security. The video is making it through the blackout curtain established by the Iranian government.
The video is difficult to watch as a woman named Neda is seen dying on the street shortly after she was shot.
Another amateur video captured showed of Neda and her father attending Neda minutes before at the protest, which had been peaceful. Minutes later she is lying on the street gasping for life. Appropriately, Neda means “calling.”
Tributes have been posted on Youtube to Neda:
For the full story, click here
Considering that Crispus Attucks was a paid provacateur of the Sons of Liberty, a cabal of dry goods merchants who sought to foment unrest to avoid paying taxes to pay for their defense in the French and Indian War, and deliberately instigated the Boston Massacre to manufacture animus against the British so that the populus would serve the pecuniary interests of the merchants, is he really a good choice of models?
Only the words of Patrick Henry come to mind.
I forget who said this but it goes something like this “some human casualties are necessary for ever lasting peace.”
I feel for the father and the family of Neda. May peace be restored to all of the ends of the earth.
It would be nice if Neda could become the symbol of a people trying to defeat the forces of a repressive government. I am not too optimistic, but I am hopeful that the people can “motivate” the religous leaders to throw out the landslide victory for the holocaust denier and accept a real vote in its place.
Finally, decent Muslims rising up to take control of their lives and futures.
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
May this poor young womans death not be in vain.
Looks like someone was right after all, “I reject the notion that some people dont want freedom and democracy” or words to that effect.
Good luck
Considering that Crispus Attucks was a paid provocateur of the Sons of Liberty, a cabal of dry goods merchants who sought to foment political unrest to gain pecuniary advantage by not paying taxes to replenish the fisc depleted by their defense in the French and Indian War, and who deliberately instigated a violent response from British soldiers in order to engender sympathy and support by others for their financial gain, is he really the best example we can offer?
Some people really mean it when they say “give me liberty or give me death” …
Dredd:
a person with any sense would want to live in a free and open society. Some things are worth dying for and freedom is one of them.
Good luck, people of Iran.
Would that your stand against tyranny be a lesson to us all about the cost of liberty and freedom when one’s government quits listening to the will of the people.
You idiots in DC should be taking notes . . .
And let’s look at who is helping the Iranian oppressors, shall we? Why it’s our old friends the corporations! I’m looking in your direction Nokia and Siemens.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124562668777335653.html#mod=rss_whats_news_us
Guess who’s products are now banned at my business and home?
Enjoy being fascists and enabling tyranny for profit, because you’ve gotten your last dime out of me.
The British are evacuating their families from their embassay, NPR just reports. They and other countries had been sheltering some of the protestors as violence increases. Militias have been hacking protestors with machetes.
You can only oppress a people for so long. Once educated, all people are willing to stand up and die for the rights due them as human beings.
After the 1979 Iranian revolution the Ayatollah encouraged the Iranian people to increase the population. The intention was to educate the young to them diseminate them into the world to spread the radical brand of Islam the Ayatollah and his like were so fond of. But educating the young had a reverse effect. They have become intelligent enough to realize they do NOT have to stand for the tyranny and oppression to which they have been subjected.
For a long time the young in Iran (60% of the population, I think) have been chaffing under this arcane theocracy. If the revolution is successful the world may be impacted like never before. Maybe radical Islam will suffer a fatal blow and finally the Arab/Muslim world will get some credibility and take a step into modernity.
Having Iran lead the charge is important. Iranians ARE Persians NOT Arabs. The Persian culture was once a proud culture whose native religion, Zoroastrianism, was a humble and respectful religion that impacted Judaism immeasurably when they interacted under Persian rule. In fact Cyrus the Great is revered in Judaism as he let the Jews back into the Land after the Babylonian Exile to reconstruct their Temple. What was once a great and proud culture has let itself be polluted by radical Islam. Maybe the Iranians can recapture their greatness as a people and stop being led by fanatical leaders bent on jihad, oppression and destruction.
Don’t count on our great president to support the Iranian people as they fight to have their will as citizens be done. Obama is for anything of the HATE America ideology. He rather have the mullah’s in power because he can come bowing to them hat-in-hand apologizing for every transgression he’s subscribed to the nation he leads and asking for forgiveness and whatever concessions they insist upon. This protest of the Muslim status quo does NOT fit the Obama adgenda and especially NOT after his fawning Cairo speech. Just when Obama thought he was gaining ground by taking America down yet another notch to give the Muslim world more credibility the leaders of radical Islam are losing their country because the people are willing to die for the freedom to have their votes count, choose their leader and end tyranny, a kind of MORE Western form of government than anything they’ve ever had.
I wonder what OBAMA’S FAVORITE CORPORATION NBC is going to do if the current regime goes down. Their stocks are going to take another hit. Hopefully for Immelt Obama won’t forget him when he’s handing out government green energy contracts. MSNBC better ratchet up those White House talking points a little further. They’ll want to make sure they’re really in the great Obama’s good graces.
Freedom and libertey are the greatest ideal’s in the world. It trumps religion and every other ideology.
My prayers are with all the Iranian people in their fight against tyranny
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Sicilian,
Twice now you’ve used a tragedy into an opportunity to engage in what I suspect is a well rehearsed rant about a subject that in one case was tangential to the core issues and in the other completely unrelated.
I hope someday you’ll figure out that a real person died, and that their death should be mourned, not exploited.
I know a real person died and that is my point. These are real people fight and dying for what MOST of us take for granted. We as Americans have been born with the freedoms that people in other countries could never phathom.
And that is why I pray for the Iranian people.
BUT don’t tell that to our GREAT president who said on CNBC last Tuesday that, ‘The difference between Achmedinijad and Mousauvi is not that great….Either way we are going to be dealing with a regime hostile to the U.S.’ (I’m paraphrasing but I do have the quote)
While that quote may be factually true, the IRANIAN people do NOT seem to think so. They are dying in the streetsc because they feel there is a difference to the.
But Obama dismisses them with a wave of his arrogant, elitisdt hand. He might as well hav e told them not to even waste their time because it really did not matter and certainly NOT to our GREAT president. How insulting!!!!
Not everybody has so much resentment tom America or the Western system as our Elitist president. Leadership is fighting for the voice of the peoople NOT acknowledging at every turn how evil America is.
I’m only taking Obama’s own words that he uttered during an interview with his favorite media outlet. Could he be anymore insulting and dismissive to a people involved in a noble fight.
It was one of the most insensitive things I ever heard from a world leader and shows what Obama, the man of great compassdion really thinks of people. If it had been the mullah’s who had the upper hand Obama would have been happy because he would have been able to continue his policy of undermining America internationally.
I am on the side of the Iranians in their fight for freedom, liberty and democracy because I as an American by birthright know how invaluable those rights are.
Sicilian,
I’m not going to argue with you about this, and hope no-one else will engage you. This is not the time and place to discuss our views on Obama, this is the time and place to pay homage to a woman who died marching for what she believed in.
You do not have to argue and engage. This is America and we all have the right to free speech one of the things the Iranians are now dying for.
I am with these people. Even though their government is trying to oppress internet access, something that all of us on this site obviously are fond of, the Iranians are still getting out the images and messages of this governmental terrorism for the world to see.
Yes, Obama NEEDS to be called out by EVERY AMERICAN who believes in freedom and liberty regardless of their part affiliations and inclinations. It took pressure from HIS own party to finally force his White House to issue a statement.
The world cries for the leader of the free world to speak!! Mousavi issued a statement essentially saying the things I said. The people of Iran BEG for our great presidents support. The woman who died and all other who have shed blood in this fight DESERVE Obama to come out on their behalf and show even the minimum amount of support!! The world NEEDS the voice of OUR president NOT the voice of Sarkozy. What kind of example is being shown to all the fighters of democracy when OUR president sits silent and dismisses the protests?
So by that logic, being with the Iranians who want their freedom is equivalent to being anti-Obama because he’s not interfering with a third country’s election like the Republican’s want (GOP – The Perpetual War Party) would by providing fodder for the BAD GUYS IN IRAN to blame US for a problem they created by being theocratic fascists.
My, but you are a simple creature.
Buddha,
Oh, but you are so simple my psuedo-Siddhartha friend.
Obama should NOT interfere. However, he should’ve from the start shown some compassionate support to the Iranian protesters. His comments on CNBC on Thursday were insulting and insensitive and shows he only cares to be compassionate when trying to transpose guilt on the American public in order to manipulate and promote his progressive adgenda.
The Iranian theocracy was blaming America anyway. The Friday “prayer” service was NOTHING more than an anti-American rally. But that is NOT playing with the protesters. The Iranian theocracy’s continued blame on America has done NOTHING to quell the protesters. The protest have only intensified in Iran and abroad.
All the compassionate Obama, the leader of the free world has to do is let the Iranian people know that America stands with them.
His fiegned show of support is MUCH TOO late and everybody knows that he was only pressured into it.
This revolution is NOT going to be stopped. It has gone on too long and despite our president’s silence has only gained support. If Obama had bdeen smart he woul’ve thrown a friendly statement Mousavi’s way, seeinjg that he might be dealing with him in the future. But Mousavi was even insulted by what Obama siad about there being NO difference betweenn Achedenijad or Mousavi.
Obama has only guaranteed a hostile regime NO matter who wins by showing an utter lack of compassion, support and respect for the revolutionaries.
Do NOT try to turn my argument around. I NEVER said Obama should meddle. Only that from the begining he should have made clear were his loyalties lie and that is with lberty, freedom and democracy.
All ther progressive ideologies that were drummed into his head in the college dorm rooms worked much better on paper than they do in action.
You accuse me of an adgenda? If you read you will see I’m an equal opportunity offender. I NEVER once showed my partisianship unlike yourself.
This isn’t about Republicans or the messess they’ve made around the globe. This is about the here and now and the message the leader of the free world needs to send to the world.
You would do good to lose the tag of Buddha because it is terribly misleading once you expose yourself with your psuedo-intellectual comments
Nice try, troll boy.
You do know the more you say, the less credible you become. And I don’t have to turn your arguments against you. You’re doing just fine on your own, Mr. Bad Logic. Does your mom let you out of the house with that brain?
I encourage everyone to view the full, graphic video of Neda’s last moments of life as her once vibrant glow is fading. The blood flowing from the mouth and nares of her beautiful face as she bleeds out should be a solemn and persistent reminder of why citizens must reject tyrannical theocracies throughout the world.
We must also bear in mind that this could happen in the U.S.A., if we stray too far from our U.S. Constitution and ignore the rule of law and passively relinquish our Bill of Rights to the ‘authorities’ simply because we might have nothing to hide. People in our country—like Neda in her homeland or future rights—have died to preserve those Amendment rights you and I are granted under our Constitution.
The next time a pushy, nosey police officer asks you if he or she can check in your backpack—especially while you are not doing something criminally suspicious—tell him or her that, with all due respect, I am a law abiding citizen and I think that you do not have probable cause to search my private effects at this time. Unless Officer, you can convey to me a justifiably reasonable cause to search me and my possessions, then I would like to get on with my life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in this free Nation of ours, yours and mine. Thank you, Officer.
For you see, if we so freely and quickly give up our rights and freedoms, the police will assume that there is no reason to have rights that are not worth standing up for, even in a polite non-confrontational demeanor.
Neda is a heroine I certainly will never forget.
Once again you can do NOTHING more than personal assaults.
You NEVER stick to the argument.
My question is, where is the support from Obama? Why the silence?
I’m NOT asking for meddling I’m asking for WORDS of SUPPORT. Obama is so good with WORDS. Oh ya, I’m sorry he’s ONLY got words when he’s wagging a moral finger at America.
I HAVE NEVER made a partisian statement.
I’m talking about supporting freedom, liberty and democracy.
sicilian1,
I agree with Gyges. You are denigrating the death of this young woman by your Obama dyspepsia. There are other thread topics on which you can post your concerns and I might even agree with some of your points over there…
Let’s agree to leave this thread about Neda and what she stood for and represents worldwide.
Buddha, Please Sir, leave this person alone on *this* thread.
Thanks.
Buddha,
Quit encouraging him, just let him babble away to himself. The same thing I said to him I’ll say to you, this isn’t the time or place for this discussion.
Former Federtal LEO,
EVERYTHING YOU said was RIGHT ON POINT!!!!!
I hope you do NOT mind me saying so because most do NOT like my comments and myself aligning with you may not be wanted.
I love your second to last paragraph. When I was stopped and refused to let the feds search my trunk I was told by a fed, ‘If you don’t don’t sign the consent to let me search your trunk you’re giving me probable cause to search your trunk’
I said, ‘So by invoking my rights you say that’s what gives you probable cause.’
The fed ripped into me, calling me every curse name and threatening what he would do to me.’
Needless to say, I gave in.
FFLEO & Gyges,
By your leave. Actually, I must apologize. I didn’t realize what thread I was in. The hazards of multi-tasking. Mea culpa.
Standing up for Neda requiires the American public to DEMAND Obama show some support to the Iranian revolutionaires.
Stop closing your eyes. Just wringing your hands and patting yourselves on the back for feeling sorry is NOT enough.
We ALL cry for this poor girl. BUT we are only citizens.
WHERE is our leader??????
There are Iranian American’s EVERYWHERE rallying for their brothers.
Go to ANY MAJOR city and you will see people wearing GREEN!!!
Where is the voice of WASHINGTON????
I guess they’ll be happy with another Tianamen square!!!!
TELL HOW I”M WRONG ABOUT THAT!!!!
A visiting general sees a peasant set upon by the warlord’s attack dogs. While sympathetic to the peasant, the visiting general cannot just rush in headlong and save them from the dog mauling lest the dog’s come to him and a war is started between nations. He does not help the victim by attacking the dogs as they are dogs and know no better than the commands of a bad master. He certainly doesn’t help the dogs attack the victim. He also doesn’t help the peasant by talking to the warlord in other than generalities lest the warlord seek to blame the peasant’s crime upon him and seek to spread violence.
What does one do?
One finds other ways to help the peasants (and this is REAL IMPORTANT) help themselves, because your words will do more harm than good in any case – too weak, the peasants are attacked more, too strong and it’s open war AND the peasants get attacked more, but there is no “just right”. Except what Obama did and tell the Warlords that the world was watching. It puts the Iranian leaders on notice that their actions are known and by implication not appreciated. Given what has gone on in recent elections here (and I do mean Bush), there are also more reasons than one Obama doesn’t want to be too confrontational at this point considering the subject matter of the dispute in Iranian question. That is all that’s required at this point and it doesn’t increase the risk to either the Iranian protesters or to our troops. To to more would have been foolish, to do less would have been unconscionable.
To seek more at this time is to seek more trouble for the protesters, not support them.
Thank you, Professor Turley, for posting Neda’s portrait.
Good redemption, Buddha; thanks.
sicilian1, I think that President Obama is meting the correct stance, at this juncture.
So the Iranian people are dogs and peasants.
That doesn’t surprise that a psuedo-intellectual like yourself would think that.
Obama’s initial silence AND the dismissive comments along with the comparison of Achmedinejad to Mousavi that he uttered on CNBC on Tuesday was destructive beyond any and all repair.
You have NEVER acknowledged those comments and how divisive they were. Those comments were insulting, arrogant, immature, careless and will cause MORE damage with whoever we’re dealing with once the dust settles in Iran.
THAT IS MY POINT. ADDRESS THE ISSUE and stop getyting on your moral soapbox by trying to turn Obama’s insensitivity to my insensitivity..
Get over blaming Bush for everything. It’s all water under the bridge. It’s Obama’s problem now and he’s NOT handling it too well.
Obama’s words ring hollow now. Everybody knows any compassion is ONLY fiegned and becauswe of political pressure.
The Islamic republic in Iran will fall. The status quo is over. Obama has guaranteed hostility because whoever is in power when it’s all said and done knows Obama hung them out to dry and had little concern for them.
He should have had the forsight or intelligence info to see when the protests first jumped off tyhat his dream of negotiating with Achmedinejad would inevitably be lost.
Obama should have positioned himself to be able to negotiate with a new regime that might have been more flexible ifb they knew our president supported them.
That option is now lost.
Sometimes the right thing is the ONLY thing to do. And standing with the revolutionaries was the ONLY thing to do.
Stop trying to manipulate the circumstances to excuse this adminuistration for it’s lack of foresight and sympathy to stand with the freedom fighters.
The theories of the college campuses ONLY work in debate NOT in the real world
Leo writes: The next time a pushy, nosey police officer asks you if he or she can check in your backpack—especially while you are not doing something criminally suspicious—tell him or her that, with all due respect, I am a law abiding citizen and I think that you do not have probable cause to search my private effects at this time. Unless Officer, you can convey to me a justifiably reasonable cause to search me and my possessions, then I would like to get on with my life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in this free Nation of ours, yours and mine. Thank you, Officer.
me: which would be nice, but those guards/cops/tsa inspectors have a nice retort which is this : wanna get inside the building? board the plane? enter the courthouse for jury duty? submit.
I had a hip replacement two years ago and every time I fly, which used to be really really alot, I set off the metal detectors. Then I get to stand in the glass box and wait for them to find a female tsa who then frisks me. there seems to be no clear standard for where she can/cannot touch me and I try to get them to disclose this prior to my physical exam. Sometimes they will and sometimes they just threaten to not let me board my place. The most power I have in this situation is to force them to put on a fresh pair of gloves. I tell them that I have a hip replacement and their wand only activates over the affected area. If they only touched me there, they’d know that I don’t have a bomb in my jeans. funny, how they think I can hide a bomb between my breasts or hide one in my underpants.
not to minimize what happened in Iran to this young woman and what I am sure will turn out to be hundreds of others…. Iran is different. There is a level of secular education and desire for connection to the outer world which will make successful revolution inevitable. I know lots of iranians who live in the states now, and I’ve been to Iran…long ago before the Shah was deposed and women wore makeup and mini-skirts. Imposing sanctions will get us nowhere. getting more technology and more connection to the larger world will advance freedom. Iranians by and large enjoy a higher standard of living then what we might imagine and want access to an even better way of life. This is one place where materialism is a good thing and the desire for more access to an upper middle class way of life for more people will advance our interests in the region in ways we can never achieve with sanctions.
LEO,
What?
To first dismiss and compare Achmedinejad and Mousavi?
Then come out with a cold statement of support?
I’m sure that statement on Sunday really filled the revolutionaries with confidence And made them forget about his initial insensitive remarks.
I wound a well informed article about this election over at Counterpunch.
A Hard Look at the Numbers
What Actually Happened in the Iranian Presidential Election?
By ESAM AL-AMIN
http://www.counterpunch.org/amin06222009.html
getplaning,
That is an excellent reasoned article, thanks.
This paragraph puts a lot in perspective:
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However, the double standard applied by Western news agencies is striking. Richard Nixon trounced George McGovern in his native state of South Dakota in the 1972 elections. Had Al Gore won his home state of Tennessee in 2000, no one would have cared about a Florida recount, nor would there have been a Supreme Court case called Bush v. Gore. If Vice-Presidential candidate John Edwards had won the states he was born and raised in (South and North Carolina), President John Kerry would now be serving his second term. But somehow, in Western newsrooms Middle Eastern people choose their candidates not on merit, but on the basis of their “tribe.”
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Here is a portrait of Neda without her scarf and in a “western-style” look. She was a very beautiful young woman…
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/06/22/2009-06-22_riot_police_keep_protestors_from_mourning_neda_with_.html
Thanks again Professor Turley.
UPDATE:
Iranian officials seek to “nullify” Neda’s martyrdom. Man . . . is that gonna backfire or what?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6561253.ece
There was talk that the Neda video might be staged.
http://www.nolanchart.com/article6565.html
I am all for the Iranian protesters, and think them incredibly brave. If we had 1/4 of the gumption these people have we would be a force to be reckoned with when dealing with police and other heavy handed officials.
But, like they say the LA police framed a guilty man in the OJ trials, may this video be a fake depiction of what really goes on all the time in Iran?
Well gee, Gary, when you add this to some of your other posts, you’re turning out to be regular tour de force in Neocon propaganda, Mr. It Might Be Staged But I’m All For Them. Please read Gary’s posts. They are a fine illustration of the ideas progressives are actually against. To educate people as to the nature of their rights is often not enough. You must show them the sly means by which others would seek to deprive them of said rights. This includes pointing out loaded language and deception/misdirections. Gary is posting some prime examples of both.
Progressives are the propogandist hypocrites.They want it both ways all the time.
Neda is a hero
The warmongers staged it to incite more violence.
This is how they progressives wrap themselves in their fiegned compassion for all humanity. They like to wring their hands in outrage over the neglect and exploitation of the underclass.
Then they want to plant the seed of doubt that this abomination may have been staged so they can jump on their soapbox and criticize America, labeling her as an imperialist out to do the bidding of the global corporate world (Which may be true)but it is not true that this tradgedy was orchestrated for that sole purpose. It may end up being used for that objective, I won’t deny that. But do not besmirch this poor woman’s death as your own staging ground for anti-American rants.
Either she’s an innocent hero. An image for Iranian freedom fighters or she was just a pawn.
Pick a side.
Hmmm, Buddha, I see from your worldview I cannot both be in favor of the Iranian citizen protesters and still question the veracity of the Neda video. And thus, I must be a neocon.
What kind of skewed, extremist thinking is that all about?
Similarly, Scicillian implies my questioning of the video veracity means that I must be a progressive.
Well, I guess I must be onto something here to be accused of being both an extremist neocon AND an extremist progressive.
Well, I am certainly not a neocon, hated Bush and most of his policies/wars with a passion. And I doubt that I am a progressive (as it’s defined lately in political vogue), as I am becoming very dissatified with Brock Obama and his policies/wars as well, and can’t stand the uber PC world progressives have forced upon us all.
I am freedom of choice for abortion and gun possession, I am against anti-smoking laws, and for medical marijuana laws. I am for legalized gay marriage, and I am against affirmative action laws.
Both neocons and progressives look to the government to solve the problems of society, and government invariably mucks things up with a heavy, thugish hand.
So take your pick – pigeonhole me politically with that repertory.
No. You need to learn to read, dipstick.
I’ve never questioned the authenticity of the Neda video. I’ve in fact attacked others who did.
So now in addition to being a Neocon propagandist, you’re an outright liar.
Good show.
Buddha Isn’t Laughing:
I can read just fine, apparently you can’t.
You most obviously haven’t questioned the authenticity of the Neda video, AND I NEVER SAID YOU DID.
It is obvious you have attacked others who did, including me for even thinking it might not be real.
For that heresy, you not only call me a dipstick, and a liar, but even worse a Neocon.
Now that you have gotten your ad hominems out of your system, where do you justify the invectives you throw at me – liar, dipstick, and Neocon?
You know you can disagree with someone without cursing them out – or maybe YOU can’t.
You are an extremist, an illiterate, a hot-head, and a boor, and I can justify each one by the way you ‘communicate’.
Do you hang around here just to bludgeon people who don’t agree with you?
I was quite civil in this thread, and you just vomit in my face, thank you for that.
Hey, Gary.
You’ll have just about as much luck telling me what to do as every other troll.
Good luck with that.
Unless you want to just lie about me some more.
So take your outrage at “civility” and stuff a sock in it, troll.
And now you call me a troll.
Lost your mojo.
Reduced to blathering, sputtering vitriol.
I rest my case.
Gary T,
I’m gladed you cleared things up. Maybe I did misinterpret what you were saying.
I agreed with ABSOLUTLY everything you said in the last 2 of your last 3 paragraphs except about your position on legalized gay marriage.
I esprcially agree with what you said about both sides looking for gov’t to solve problems when they only muck things up.
Do NOT ever think you can argue with Buddha intelligently. Buddha is largely ignorant on ALL topics except for the talking points he spews from the huffington post.
His tagline of Buddha is just a rhetorical trick to present the false image that he has thoughtful insights. It is just a trick to disguise his ignorance and to allow him to hold the initial upper hand in any topic to outsiders looking in. The see the tag “Buddha” and the immediate instinctual inclination is to think the person behind the tag possesses intellect. It is a subliminal disguise to hide ignorance. As I’ve said to this complete ignorant, Siddarthura would not be proud. (That’s at least 7 and counting) (You’ve been exposed you charlatan) (Any comeback now will be inefficient)
Buddha is well adept at the #1 progressive debating trick and that is the AD HOMINEM and all it’s many sub-groupings. All he can do is divert attention to personal name-calling, demonizing and unsubstantiated claims of biases to hide his complete ignorance of every topic and his own ingrained prejudices, bigotry’s and hatreds.
He knows all too well the intellectual shortcut of all progressives to claim ownership of some psuedo moral authority to make all there positions seem some type of greater human cause. It is so much easier to paint his opponents with the broad evil brush of the compassionless than it is tio argue the points.
The progressives like Buddha use that fake moral reasoning to assume greater gov’t control over every sector of society and when it inevitably fails they just repeat their old demonizing of opponents trick to grab an even greater degree of gov’t control.
Notice how after a tome every one of this ignorants retorts degenertates into outright name-calling. That is b/c that is the only thing his truly feeble intellect will allow him to coome up with.
I encourage you Gary T, to cpntinue to argue your points, explicate your opinions and never stop clearing up misunderstandings and the attempt to misrepresent your positions by these bloggers.
Sicillian:
Well I am glad I could clear that up for you.
Yes I agree that the Buddha name is a misdirection, you would think someone who picked that moniker would be a little enlightened, if not in knowledge at least in how to comport oneself.
He is the very thing he accuses, a troll, but he doesn’t even know it.
Oh, I will continue to post here at the JT blog.
I consider Jonathan Turley to be one the best media commentators, he doesn’t kowtow for any political party and is always consistent to the Constitution. He is quick to point out hypocrisy eveb when it is politically incorrect to do so. I see him often on Olbermann and Maddow, but I think he could even do well on the Fox network. Ron Paul manages to show up on both networks, and I respect him in much the same way.
I have one simple rule: I won’t call you a troll if you don’t act like one.
And as for any assessment you may have of my enlightenment, you can stuff a sock in that too, Gary T(roll).
Buddha Isn’t Laughing:
I don’t think you know what a troll is.
I’ve seen you use it, but more often than not, it simply does not apply.
Sure thing, troll.
Buddha Isn’t Laughing:
I don’t think you know what a troll is.
I’ve seen you use it, but more often than not, it simply does not apply.