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		<title>By: Bob,Esq.</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65553</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 4th everyone. 

I tivoed the History Channel&#039;s 6 hour special on the revolution.  Groovy.  Here&#039;s hoping they spent more than 15 seconds on Arnold&#039;s treason.</description>
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<p>I tivoed the History Channel&#8217;s 6 hour special on the revolution.  Groovy.  Here&#8217;s hoping they spent more than 15 seconds on Arnold&#8217;s treason.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymously Yours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gnome    1, July 4, 2009 at 7:46 pm

AY, with all due respect, and I do respect you, that paste up is a mixture of true and false information.

Mea Culpa if it is incorrect. The Beer part to Buddha is as accurate as I can know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gnome    1, July 4, 2009 at 7:46 pm</p>
<p>AY, with all due respect, and I do respect you, that paste up is a mixture of true and false information.</p>
<p>Mea Culpa if it is incorrect. The Beer part to Buddha is as accurate as I can know.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AY, with all due respect, and I do respect you, that paste up is a mixture of true and false information.

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

The real facts of independence are impressive enough without mythical embellishments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AY, with all due respect, and I do respect you, that paste up is a mixture of true and false information.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp</a></p>
<p>The real facts of independence are impressive enough without mythical embellishments.</p>
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		<title>By: President Barack Obama</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65545</link>
		<dc:creator>President Barack Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This weekend, our family will join millions of others in celebrating America. We will enjoy the glow of fireworks, the taste of barbeque, and the company of good friends. As we all celebrate this weekend, let&#039;s also remember the remarkable story that led to this day.

Two hundred and thirty-three years ago, our nation was born when a courageous group of patriots pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to the proposition that all of us were created equal.

Our country began as a unique experiment in liberty -- a bold, evolving quest to achieve a more perfect union. And in every generation, another courageous group of patriots has taken us one step closer to fully realizing the dream our founders enshrined on that great day.

Today, all Americans have a hard-fought birthright to a freedom which enables each of us, no matter our views or background, to help set our nation&#039;s course. America&#039;s greatness has always depended on her citizens embracing that freedom -- and fulfilling the duty that comes with it.

As free people, we must each take the challenges and opportunities that face this nation as our own. As long as some Americans still must struggle, none of us can be fully content. And as America comes ever closer to achieving the perfect Union our founders dreamed, that triumph -- that pride -- belongs to all of us.

So today is a day to reflect on our independence, and the sacrifice of our troops standing in harm&#039;s way to preserve and protect it. It is a day to celebrate all that America is. And today is a time to aspire toward all we can still become.

With very best wishes,

President Barack Obama

July 4th, 2009 

P.S. -- Our nation&#039;s birthday is also an ideal time to consider serving in your local community. You can find many great ideas for service opportunities near you at http://www.serve.gov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This weekend, our family will join millions of others in celebrating America. We will enjoy the glow of fireworks, the taste of barbeque, and the company of good friends. As we all celebrate this weekend, let&#8217;s also remember the remarkable story that led to this day.</p>
<p>Two hundred and thirty-three years ago, our nation was born when a courageous group of patriots pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to the proposition that all of us were created equal.</p>
<p>Our country began as a unique experiment in liberty &#8212; a bold, evolving quest to achieve a more perfect union. And in every generation, another courageous group of patriots has taken us one step closer to fully realizing the dream our founders enshrined on that great day.</p>
<p>Today, all Americans have a hard-fought birthright to a freedom which enables each of us, no matter our views or background, to help set our nation&#8217;s course. America&#8217;s greatness has always depended on her citizens embracing that freedom &#8212; and fulfilling the duty that comes with it.</p>
<p>As free people, we must each take the challenges and opportunities that face this nation as our own. As long as some Americans still must struggle, none of us can be fully content. And as America comes ever closer to achieving the perfect Union our founders dreamed, that triumph &#8212; that pride &#8212; belongs to all of us.</p>
<p>So today is a day to reflect on our independence, and the sacrifice of our troops standing in harm&#8217;s way to preserve and protect it. It is a day to celebrate all that America is. And today is a time to aspire toward all we can still become.</p>
<p>With very best wishes,</p>
<p>President Barack Obama</p>
<p>July 4th, 2009 </p>
<p>P.S. &#8212; Our nation&#8217;s birthday is also an ideal time to consider serving in your local community. You can find many great ideas for service opportunities near you at <a href="http://www.serve.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.serve.gov</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SW Mom,

Lobster screaming as it hits the heat. Hummmmm, ok count me in. So how is Boulder today? Happy 4th of July.

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?
 
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.
 
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.
 
Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.
 
They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
 
What kind of men were they?
 
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated, but they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
 
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward
 
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
 
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
 
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
 
John Hart was driven from his wife&#039;s bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It&#039;s not much to ask for the price they paid.
 
Remember: freedom is never free!
 
I hope you will show your support by sending this to as many people as you can, please. It&#039;s time we get the word out that patriotism is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July has more to it than Beer, picnics, and baseball games.

Buddha this one is for you: Liquid Cereal 

Link: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art36037.asp

Beer • brew &#124; Da’ Instigator &#124; swill &#124; brew juice &#124; barley juice &#124; barley soda &#124; wallop &#124; suds &#124; brewdog &#124; brew-ha-ha &#124; who hit John &#124; hop juice &#124; liquid sleep &#124; wine’s poverty stricken brother &#124; formula for naked frat fun &#124; the key to malty man love &#124; barley in a funnel &#124; post-party cologne &#124; reeb (beer spelled backwards) &#124; steam (Old West Coast term for beer made under primitive conditions) &#124; the remedy for empty bladder syndrome &#124; the blood of the brew dude &#124; the bridge the I crossed to losing my job &#124; gold elixir &#124; brewski &#124; cold water sandwich &#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SW Mom,</p>
<p>Lobster screaming as it hits the heat. Hummmmm, ok count me in. So how is Boulder today? Happy 4th of July.</p>
<p>Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?</p>
<p>Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.</p>
<p>Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.</p>
<p>Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.</p>
<p>They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.</p>
<p>What kind of men were they?</p>
<p>Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated, but they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.</p>
<p>Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward</p>
<p>Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.</p>
<p>At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.</p>
<p>Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.</p>
<p>John Hart was driven from his wife&#8217;s bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It&#8217;s not much to ask for the price they paid.</p>
<p>Remember: freedom is never free!</p>
<p>I hope you will show your support by sending this to as many people as you can, please. It&#8217;s time we get the word out that patriotism is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July has more to it than Beer, picnics, and baseball games.</p>
<p>Buddha this one is for you: Liquid Cereal </p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art36037.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art36037.asp</a></p>
<p>Beer • brew | Da’ Instigator | swill | brew juice | barley juice | barley soda | wallop | suds | brewdog | brew-ha-ha | who hit John | hop juice | liquid sleep | wine’s poverty stricken brother | formula for naked frat fun | the key to malty man love | barley in a funnel | post-party cologne | reeb (beer spelled backwards) | steam (Old West Coast term for beer made under primitive conditions) | the remedy for empty bladder syndrome | the blood of the brew dude | the bridge the I crossed to losing my job | gold elixir | brewski | cold water sandwich |</p>
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		<title>By: Swarthmore mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swarthmore mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can only carry on a private conversation if you live on the eastern seaboard. I do live lobster though. Happy 4th!</description>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike S,
Amen!
Buddha,
The Royals got the best of the White Sox today so at least they didn&#039;t get swept.  And you are correct when you suggest that it would have been worse to lose to the Cubs!  Plus you guys were without Coco Crisp and he always gives us fits.  Have a great 4th!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike S,<br />
Amen!<br />
Buddha,<br />
The Royals got the best of the White Sox today so at least they didn&#8217;t get swept.  And you are correct when you suggest that it would have been worse to lose to the Cubs!  Plus you guys were without Coco Crisp and he always gives us fits.  Have a great 4th!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65537</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Spindell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wish I had said this:
“The view of America that dominates the academy, journalism, major foundations and most segments of the American intellectual community was marked out at the start of the last century by progressive thinkers (learn more about them here) when they launched their grand project for America.&quot;

IS,
  I hope you understand that what you are quoting is a political
polemic, rather than historical fact. The author has a point of view in which he characterizes all progressives as supporting a basic agenda, which he/she anathematizes. That is fine as far as it goes, but does not a truth make. There is cherry picking of statements to benefit the argument being made and a distinct choice of a rampant racist and Jew hater in Woodrow Wilson. Then too we have old Cal Coolidge, a wholly owned subsidiary of the wealthy talking about:

“If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final.&quot;

Yet Coolidge firmly supported the Southern system of subjugation by segregation, so perhaps he didn&#039;t quite mean &quot;all men.&quot; As far as supporting &quot;inalienable rights&quot; he didn&#039;t believe in Labor Union&#039;s rights to organize and strike.
In fact the &quot;all men&quot; and &quot;inalienable rights&quot; he talked of were conceptually meant for the upper classes. 

However, you are entitled to your view of things, but I suggest when you imply that people who disagree with you don&#039;t believe in the &quot;Declaration,&quot; or &quot;Constitution&quot; I think that you not only have little proof of that, but that the very people whose views you support have proven their lack of fidelity to both. Were I to adopt the same line of thought I could well say that The entire Bush Crime Family has a three generation history of treason to this country and that those faux/neo conservatives who supported them also are open to question from a patriotic perspective.

While I&#039;m sure you wished you had said it, had it been original to you it would have been a false characterization in any event and evidence of a lack of historical or political
insight. Have a great Fourth, but if you believe for one second that you are any more patriotic than the regulars who post here, you are awash in self-delusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wish I had said this:<br />
“The view of America that dominates the academy, journalism, major foundations and most segments of the American intellectual community was marked out at the start of the last century by progressive thinkers (learn more about them here) when they launched their grand project for America.&#8221;</p>
<p>IS,<br />
  I hope you understand that what you are quoting is a political<br />
polemic, rather than historical fact. The author has a point of view in which he characterizes all progressives as supporting a basic agenda, which he/she anathematizes. That is fine as far as it goes, but does not a truth make. There is cherry picking of statements to benefit the argument being made and a distinct choice of a rampant racist and Jew hater in Woodrow Wilson. Then too we have old Cal Coolidge, a wholly owned subsidiary of the wealthy talking about:</p>
<p>“If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet Coolidge firmly supported the Southern system of subjugation by segregation, so perhaps he didn&#8217;t quite mean &#8220;all men.&#8221; As far as supporting &#8220;inalienable rights&#8221; he didn&#8217;t believe in Labor Union&#8217;s rights to organize and strike.<br />
In fact the &#8220;all men&#8221; and &#8220;inalienable rights&#8221; he talked of were conceptually meant for the upper classes. </p>
<p>However, you are entitled to your view of things, but I suggest when you imply that people who disagree with you don&#8217;t believe in the &#8220;Declaration,&#8221; or &#8220;Constitution&#8221; I think that you not only have little proof of that, but that the very people whose views you support have proven their lack of fidelity to both. Were I to adopt the same line of thought I could well say that The entire Bush Crime Family has a three generation history of treason to this country and that those faux/neo conservatives who supported them also are open to question from a patriotic perspective.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m sure you wished you had said it, had it been original to you it would have been a false characterization in any event and evidence of a lack of historical or political<br />
insight. Have a great Fourth, but if you believe for one second that you are any more patriotic than the regulars who post here, you are awash in self-delusion.</p>
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		<title>By: pardon me?</title>
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		<dc:creator>pardon me?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 4th of July!
&quot;25 tuned car horns activated by a homemade keyboard playing the Star Spangled Banner&quot;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHT8qbx260Q</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy 4th of July!<br />
&#8220;25 tuned car horns activated by a homemade keyboard playing the Star Spangled Banner&#8221;<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/GHT8qbx260Q/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65531</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymously Yours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of the Turlee Blawger old and new:

If one can carry on a private conversation then all should be able to unless expressly stated by the Professor. If I see a rule on here that is posted by the owner of this site that such private conversations are only permissible by the Original Turlee&#039;s then I will cease. Until then we are all subject to the same rules. Is that your Understanding Patty C or Patty C., or who ever you go by today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of the Turlee Blawger old and new:</p>
<p>If one can carry on a private conversation then all should be able to unless expressly stated by the Professor. If I see a rule on here that is posted by the owner of this site that such private conversations are only permissible by the Original Turlee&#8217;s then I will cease. Until then we are all subject to the same rules. Is that your Understanding Patty C or Patty C., or who ever you go by today?</p>
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		<title>By: gilamosaics</title>
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		<dc:creator>gilamosaics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 4th y&#039;all.  Kaboooom!  I look forward to numerous fireworks displays over the gulf of Mexico tonight. Enjoy, wherever you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy 4th y&#8217;all.  Kaboooom!  I look forward to numerous fireworks displays over the gulf of Mexico tonight. Enjoy, wherever you are.</p>
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		<title>By: lthuedk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flame never died. For eight years, the Republic endured occupation by hard core ideologues and vicious militant corporatists. 

Hopefully, we can close the deal in 2010 and lose the parasites.

Stronger for the sake of our Constitution is the aim, I reckon. To be sure, our holding the key to bringing it all back home is real. Today goes to certifying what just happened.

So, thank you, Professor Turley, and every patriot reading or writing hereabouts for the on target, elegant and sometimes brilliant writing. 

A fantastic Fourth to you all from the Pitt Family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flame never died. For eight years, the Republic endured occupation by hard core ideologues and vicious militant corporatists. </p>
<p>Hopefully, we can close the deal in 2010 and lose the parasites.</p>
<p>Stronger for the sake of our Constitution is the aim, I reckon. To be sure, our holding the key to bringing it all back home is real. Today goes to certifying what just happened.</p>
<p>So, thank you, Professor Turley, and every patriot reading or writing hereabouts for the on target, elegant and sometimes brilliant writing. </p>
<p>A fantastic Fourth to you all from the Pitt Family.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mespo727272    1, July 4, 2009 at 8:47 am
This is my favorite 4th of July in eight years!!
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Mine as well, bud.

Having thrown off, once again, the constraints of social correctness, I feel freer than ever!

Don&#039;t know whether you caught Bill Maher last week, but the Billy Bob interview was rather on point when he talked about saying what you think and then experiencing people already lined up to bean you for it much in the manner applied to Patrick Henry and Nathan Hale, for Chrissake. Only, I&#039;m not the traitor and remain of sturdier stock, as they say! I will survive.

I&#039;ll probably be crucified for stating, also, that we don&#039;t do
dogs n&#039; burgers at our house on the 4th. Because we live on the coast of Maine, we are compelled to provide combination menus of &#039;bugs&#039; (lobsters) pulled fresh from our own traps and roasted in a pit outdoors with clams, mussels, and what ever other ocean fish we can find plus traditional fresh corn and potatoes AND grilled salmon and homegrown organic peas and herbs etc etc. 

I&#039;ll make a chowder and a quick cioppino with the leftovers.
Bon Appetit!
p.s. Mespo, right after I stated to you we hardly ever get whole, unpicked crab around here, I walked into my fish mongers place and he had a whole tank full. They took them of the hands of a restaraunt who was overloaded, as a courtesy, but positively hate the mess as a matter of course. From what I learned, they can ruin a tank - in no time...!

So, I learned something!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mespo727272    1, July 4, 2009 at 8:47 am<br />
This is my favorite 4th of July in eight years!!<br />
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Mine as well, bud.</p>
<p>Having thrown off, once again, the constraints of social correctness, I feel freer than ever!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know whether you caught Bill Maher last week, but the Billy Bob interview was rather on point when he talked about saying what you think and then experiencing people already lined up to bean you for it much in the manner applied to Patrick Henry and Nathan Hale, for Chrissake. Only, I&#8217;m not the traitor and remain of sturdier stock, as they say! I will survive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably be crucified for stating, also, that we don&#8217;t do<br />
dogs n&#8217; burgers at our house on the 4th. Because we live on the coast of Maine, we are compelled to provide combination menus of &#8216;bugs&#8217; (lobsters) pulled fresh from our own traps and roasted in a pit outdoors with clams, mussels, and what ever other ocean fish we can find plus traditional fresh corn and potatoes AND grilled salmon and homegrown organic peas and herbs etc etc. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make a chowder and a quick cioppino with the leftovers.<br />
Bon Appetit!<br />
p.s. Mespo, right after I stated to you we hardly ever get whole, unpicked crab around here, I walked into my fish mongers place and he had a whole tank full. They took them of the hands of a restaraunt who was overloaded, as a courtesy, but positively hate the mess as a matter of course. From what I learned, they can ruin a tank &#8211; in no time&#8230;!</p>
<p>So, I learned something!</p>
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		<title>By: rcampbell</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Happy and Safe Fourth to All!</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;The fight for liberty and freedom didn’t end in 1776. That’s when it began in earnest. If you believe in liberty and freedom, that in itself is reason to celebrate.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Good post Buddha! I agree completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The fight for liberty and freedom didn’t end in 1776. That’s when it began in earnest. If you believe in liberty and freedom, that in itself is reason to celebrate.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Good post Buddha! I agree completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those down in the mouth today, might I suggest you consider this:  Liberty from tyranny is a battle that never ends.  Celebrating one victory over tyranny in no way stops that battle, but is it not a reminder to us all of the high principles and grand vision of our Founding Fathers.  

The American Dream is not what we are but rather who we aspire to be.  That we are staggering now is only a reason to enforce and remind each other that, as Jefferson said, &quot;[w]e hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.&quot;

The fight for liberty and freedom didn&#039;t end in 1776.  That&#039;s when it began in earnest.  If you believe in liberty and freedom, that in itself is reason to celebrate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those down in the mouth today, might I suggest you consider this:  Liberty from tyranny is a battle that never ends.  Celebrating one victory over tyranny in no way stops that battle, but is it not a reminder to us all of the high principles and grand vision of our Founding Fathers.  </p>
<p>The American Dream is not what we are but rather who we aspire to be.  That we are staggering now is only a reason to enforce and remind each other that, as Jefferson said, &#8220;[w]e hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.&#8221;</p>
<p>The fight for liberty and freedom didn&#8217;t end in 1776.  That&#8217;s when it began in earnest.  If you believe in liberty and freedom, that in itself is reason to celebrate.</p>
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		<title>By: GWLawSchoolMom</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while still unsure of our exact plans for this evening, I always kind of wonder about the notion of a day celebrating independence. Independence for whom?  Certainly not for african americans, asians, women and others who were enslaved by the colonial notion that citizenship was something only white christian men could enjoy or appreciate.
I think about gay and lesbian friends today and wonder when they will be able to enjoy independence. I think about university professors whose opinions, made unpopular by those Patriot Act people have been silenced.  i think about the value of freedom, and I mean real freedom, not the bumper sticker slogans, and wonder when an american who does not believe in god may be sworn in as an elected leader and when we can all stop pandering to the falsehood of wearing that pathetic american flag lapel pin as proof that we really are american and love our country.  
today the sky is big and blue and clear as far as the eye can see and when I went down to the orchard to pick lemons and limes it felt pretty much like any other day.  warmer, but not different enough to really have something to celebrate like an end to the war in Iraq or the end to &quot;don&#039;t ask -- don&#039;t tell&quot; or a beginning for 46 million americans who don&#039;t have health care and the 11 million children who are homeless and the millions more who are hungry.
i think I&#039;ll save the champagne for another day when i can wake up in the morning and really see and feel independence for those among us who deserve it as much as I do and who dont have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while still unsure of our exact plans for this evening, I always kind of wonder about the notion of a day celebrating independence. Independence for whom?  Certainly not for african americans, asians, women and others who were enslaved by the colonial notion that citizenship was something only white christian men could enjoy or appreciate.<br />
I think about gay and lesbian friends today and wonder when they will be able to enjoy independence. I think about university professors whose opinions, made unpopular by those Patriot Act people have been silenced.  i think about the value of freedom, and I mean real freedom, not the bumper sticker slogans, and wonder when an american who does not believe in god may be sworn in as an elected leader and when we can all stop pandering to the falsehood of wearing that pathetic american flag lapel pin as proof that we really are american and love our country.<br />
today the sky is big and blue and clear as far as the eye can see and when I went down to the orchard to pick lemons and limes it felt pretty much like any other day.  warmer, but not different enough to really have something to celebrate like an end to the war in Iraq or the end to &#8220;don&#8217;t ask &#8212; don&#8217;t tell&#8221; or a beginning for 46 million americans who don&#8217;t have health care and the 11 million children who are homeless and the millions more who are hungry.<br />
i think I&#8217;ll save the champagne for another day when i can wake up in the morning and really see and feel independence for those among us who deserve it as much as I do and who dont have it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lottakatz,

Take a look at the weather and expanded radar. I think you&#039;re going to be happy.

I think that by 3 or 4 PM all the rain will have moved out, and you&#039;ll be able to enjoy an evening outside.

Enjoy your 4th.</description>
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<p>Take a look at the weather and expanded radar. I think you&#8217;re going to be happy.</p>
<p>I think that by 3 or 4 PM all the rain will have moved out, and you&#8217;ll be able to enjoy an evening outside.</p>
<p>Enjoy your 4th.</p>
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		<title>By: DB Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here at the Cross Time Saloon, we talk a lot about our alternate time lines.  One guy tells about his world, where the the Revolution failed after Benedict Arnold betrayed Washington.  Some of the Brits, however, wised up and passed the Act of Union of Britain and North America, ratified on July 4, 1809. North Americans like Adams, Clay, and Webster served in Parliament, where they worked to secure democracy for all voters by supporting Reform Acts. The Union prevailed over Spain, France, Mexico and Russia and spanned the continent.  

Prime Minister Lincoln led the war against the rebellion by the slaveholding states.  He freed the slaves and saved the Union.  Prime Ministers Churchill and Roosevelt joined forces to defeat Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.  Ministers from Truman and Atlee through Bush and Thatcher united to win the Cold War against the Soviet Union.  Have a safe and sane Fourth on this BiCentennial.

By the way, no one has ever reported a time line where Ron Paul gained power.

Via para-time multi-universe communicator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here at the Cross Time Saloon, we talk a lot about our alternate time lines.  One guy tells about his world, where the the Revolution failed after Benedict Arnold betrayed Washington.  Some of the Brits, however, wised up and passed the Act of Union of Britain and North America, ratified on July 4, 1809. North Americans like Adams, Clay, and Webster served in Parliament, where they worked to secure democracy for all voters by supporting Reform Acts. The Union prevailed over Spain, France, Mexico and Russia and spanned the continent.  </p>
<p>Prime Minister Lincoln led the war against the rebellion by the slaveholding states.  He freed the slaves and saved the Union.  Prime Ministers Churchill and Roosevelt joined forces to defeat Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.  Ministers from Truman and Atlee through Bush and Thatcher united to win the Cold War against the Soviet Union.  Have a safe and sane Fourth on this BiCentennial.</p>
<p>By the way, no one has ever reported a time line where Ron Paul gained power.</p>
<p>Via para-time multi-universe communicator.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe that we should celebrate the 4th of July.  People died for relatively frivolous reasons, such as taxation without representation (are the residents of D.C. going to war today?). It is not as if Britain enslaved the colonists.  No, it was the colonists that enslaved others, and the nation they created sanctioned slavery.  With the 3/5 clause, it ensured that the slaveholding states would control the government for most of the next 90 years.  Britain freed the slaves in its colonies decades before the Civil War, so, had the U.S. remained a colony, slavery in the U.S. might have ended decades sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not believe that we should celebrate the 4th of July.  People died for relatively frivolous reasons, such as taxation without representation (are the residents of D.C. going to war today?). It is not as if Britain enslaved the colonists.  No, it was the colonists that enslaved others, and the nation they created sanctioned slavery.  With the 3/5 clause, it ensured that the slaveholding states would control the government for most of the next 90 years.  Britain freed the slaves in its colonies decades before the Civil War, so, had the U.S. remained a colony, slavery in the U.S. might have ended decades sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mespo,

The spoken words were a tribute to our country, not to John Wayne. Too many of us ignore the message, simply because, we don&#039;t care for the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mespo,</p>
<p>The spoken words were a tribute to our country, not to John Wayne. Too many of us ignore the message, simply because, we don&#8217;t care for the messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: Indentured Servant</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65500</link>
		<dc:creator>Indentured Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had said this:


&quot;The view of America that dominates the academy, journalism, major foundations and most segments of the American intellectual community was marked out at the start of the last century by progressive thinkers (learn more about them here) when they launched their grand project for America. They repudiated the Founders’ principles, holding that there are no self-evident truths—in the Declaration of Independence or elsewhere—only change in the constant search for progress without final goals. There are no permanent rights with which man is endowed, but endlessly evolving rights that develop and grow based on new demands. Our fidelity must be to a “living” Constitution that adapts to fit the demands of the times. The way forward is to control social conditions and engineer a better society, redistributing wealth through a distant and patronizing welfare state that regulates more and more of the American economy, politics and society.

Over the course of the twentieth century—as America’s principles were assaulted, undermined, and redefined in our culture, in our uni¬versities, and in our politics—we have taken significant steps down this path. The Progressive Movement laid the intellectual groundwork, but the basic infrastructure of the modern welfare state established under the New Deal has expanded in regulatory scope and social purpose under the Great Society and its progeny in both political parties. We are in the beginning of a new and perhaps decisive move in this direction.

Now, more than ever, is the time to relearn the meaning and contemporary significance of the Declaration of Independence and recognize that modern liberalism has explicitly rejected the truths it proclaims.

Woodrow Wilson, one of the most famous early progressives, argued during the 1912 presidential campaign that “all that Progressives ask or desire is permission…to interpret the Constitution according to the Darwinian principle,” meaning that it should promote an ever-expanding set of powers for an ever-expanding government. The problem, he declared, was that pesky Declaration of Independence: “some citizens of this country have never got beyond the Declaration of Independence,” he remarked with astonishment; “The Declaration of Independence did not mention the questions of our day.”

The progressive view rejects outright the very idea, at the heart of the Founders’ way of thinking, of being guided by permanent or fixed principles. As the prominent progressive historian Carl Becker put it in 1922, “to ask whether the natural rights philosophy of the Declaration of Independence is true or false, is essentially a meaningless question.” Such relativism renders meaningless the whole American experiment in self-government.

But denying the truth of America’s principles for the sake of “change” can make no claim to progress at all—a point made with unsurpassed clarity by Calvin Coolidge (learn more here) on the 150th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence in 1926: “If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions.”

We don’t need to remake America, or discover new and untested principles. The change we need is not the rejection of America’s principles but a great renewal of these permanent truths about man, politics and liberty—the foundational principles and constitutional wisdom that are the true roots of our country’s greatness.

As we celebrate the blessings of liberty that America’s Founders made possible and the sacrifices of succeeding generations have enabled us to enjoy, let us also rededicate ourselves, and strive to rededicate our nation, to the Declaration of Independence.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had said this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The view of America that dominates the academy, journalism, major foundations and most segments of the American intellectual community was marked out at the start of the last century by progressive thinkers (learn more about them here) when they launched their grand project for America. They repudiated the Founders’ principles, holding that there are no self-evident truths—in the Declaration of Independence or elsewhere—only change in the constant search for progress without final goals. There are no permanent rights with which man is endowed, but endlessly evolving rights that develop and grow based on new demands. Our fidelity must be to a “living” Constitution that adapts to fit the demands of the times. The way forward is to control social conditions and engineer a better society, redistributing wealth through a distant and patronizing welfare state that regulates more and more of the American economy, politics and society.</p>
<p>Over the course of the twentieth century—as America’s principles were assaulted, undermined, and redefined in our culture, in our uni¬versities, and in our politics—we have taken significant steps down this path. The Progressive Movement laid the intellectual groundwork, but the basic infrastructure of the modern welfare state established under the New Deal has expanded in regulatory scope and social purpose under the Great Society and its progeny in both political parties. We are in the beginning of a new and perhaps decisive move in this direction.</p>
<p>Now, more than ever, is the time to relearn the meaning and contemporary significance of the Declaration of Independence and recognize that modern liberalism has explicitly rejected the truths it proclaims.</p>
<p>Woodrow Wilson, one of the most famous early progressives, argued during the 1912 presidential campaign that “all that Progressives ask or desire is permission…to interpret the Constitution according to the Darwinian principle,” meaning that it should promote an ever-expanding set of powers for an ever-expanding government. The problem, he declared, was that pesky Declaration of Independence: “some citizens of this country have never got beyond the Declaration of Independence,” he remarked with astonishment; “The Declaration of Independence did not mention the questions of our day.”</p>
<p>The progressive view rejects outright the very idea, at the heart of the Founders’ way of thinking, of being guided by permanent or fixed principles. As the prominent progressive historian Carl Becker put it in 1922, “to ask whether the natural rights philosophy of the Declaration of Independence is true or false, is essentially a meaningless question.” Such relativism renders meaningless the whole American experiment in self-government.</p>
<p>But denying the truth of America’s principles for the sake of “change” can make no claim to progress at all—a point made with unsurpassed clarity by Calvin Coolidge (learn more here) on the 150th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence in 1926: “If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions.”</p>
<p>We don’t need to remake America, or discover new and untested principles. The change we need is not the rejection of America’s principles but a great renewal of these permanent truths about man, politics and liberty—the foundational principles and constitutional wisdom that are the true roots of our country’s greatness.</p>
<p>As we celebrate the blessings of liberty that America’s Founders made possible and the sacrifices of succeeding generations have enabled us to enjoy, let us also rededicate ourselves, and strive to rededicate our nation, to the Declaration of Independence.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Indentured Servant</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65499</link>
		<dc:creator>Indentured Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BIL:

&quot;If the human race manages to redesign itself, to reduce or eliminate the risk of self-destruction, we will probably reach out to the stars and colonize other planets.&quot;

how does he know it hasnt been done before and we are the result?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIL:</p>
<p>&#8220;If the human race manages to redesign itself, to reduce or eliminate the risk of self-destruction, we will probably reach out to the stars and colonize other planets.&#8221;</p>
<p>how does he know it hasnt been done before and we are the result?</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddha Is Laughing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OFF TOPIC

To those you who follow science:  Hawking has an interesting take on evolution.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/07/stephen-hawking-the-planet-has-entered-a-new-phase-of-evolution.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFF TOPIC</p>
<p>To those you who follow science:  Hawking has an interesting take on evolution.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/07/stephen-hawking-the-planet-has-entered-a-new-phase-of-evolution.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/07/stephen-hawking-the-planet-has-entered-a-new-phase-of-evolution.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: 4th Of July Firework Shows &#124; All Days Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>4th Of July Firework Shows &#124; All Days Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddha Is Laughing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mespo,

I too am not impressed with John Wayne.  Jimmy Stewart was 10x the man and 100x the actor.</description>
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<p>I too am not impressed with John Wayne.  Jimmy Stewart was 10x the man and 100x the actor.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Byrne:

Admittedly no John Wayne fan, I would be more impressed with him had he actually served his Country during wartime when many of his fellow Hollywood Stars were enlisting like James Arness, Jimmy Stewart and John Ford. Wayne always had one more movie to make before making the decision to defend the Country he so calculatingly loved in the video you submitted. Come to think of it given his later support for all manner of wacko Conservative causes,he may have been the first chicken-hawk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Byrne:</p>
<p>Admittedly no John Wayne fan, I would be more impressed with him had he actually served his Country during wartime when many of his fellow Hollywood Stars were enlisting like James Arness, Jimmy Stewart and John Ford. Wayne always had one more movie to make before making the decision to defend the Country he so calculatingly loved in the video you submitted. Come to think of it given his later support for all manner of wacko Conservative causes,he may have been the first chicken-hawk!</p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65484</link>
		<dc:creator>lottakatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 4th to all! It&#039;s raining here so I&#039;m having to make do with an indoor celebration. Here&#039;s an oldie for Java enabled fireworks fans:

http://www.maylin.net/Fireworks.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy 4th to all! It&#8217;s raining here so I&#8217;m having to make do with an indoor celebration. Here&#8217;s an oldie for Java enabled fireworks fans:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.maylin.net/Fireworks.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.maylin.net/Fireworks.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Byrne</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65478</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish all of you a safe and happy fourth.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzBp8GyNilI&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish all of you a safe and happy fourth.<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/LzBp8GyNilI/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65474</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddha Is Laughing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raff,

We&#039;ve still got a maturing team and it wasn&#039;t a total blowout despite the score.  We had plenty of men on base, but we just couldn&#039;t get them home.  I still think Hillman has the team on the right track.  Even if we go nowhere this year, if he can keep as good a composition as they&#039;ve got now and work out the kinks, I still see a chance for my Royals next year.  And it was at least the Sox we lost to.  There are other Chicago teams it&#039;s more embarrassing to lose to. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raff,</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve still got a maturing team and it wasn&#8217;t a total blowout despite the score.  We had plenty of men on base, but we just couldn&#8217;t get them home.  I still think Hillman has the team on the right track.  Even if we go nowhere this year, if he can keep as good a composition as they&#8217;ve got now and work out the kinks, I still see a chance for my Royals next year.  And it was at least the Sox we lost to.  There are other Chicago teams it&#8217;s more embarrassing to lose to. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65468</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Spindell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Fourth To All,
  I&#039;m going to a cookout with friends this afternoon and watching fireworks from the beach tonight. Ribs are on the menu along with a lot of other great things, but fat be damned. I loves me my spareribs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Fourth To All,<br />
  I&#8217;m going to a cookout with friends this afternoon and watching fireworks from the beach tonight. Ribs are on the menu along with a lot of other great things, but fat be damned. I loves me my spareribs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65465</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my friend applied to this firm they used to have a wonderful large flag and other patriotic symbols on the homepage for your enjoyment.  It&#039;s a new time in America!  Private companies help us secure our empire around the world.  Here&#039;s one:

WARNING:  THIS LINK GOES TO A WELL KNOWN MERCENARY FIRM.  IF YOU CLICK ON IT YOU WILL BE TRACKED.  

http://www.triplecanopy.com/triplecanopy/en/home/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my friend applied to this firm they used to have a wonderful large flag and other patriotic symbols on the homepage for your enjoyment.  It&#8217;s a new time in America!  Private companies help us secure our empire around the world.  Here&#8217;s one:</p>
<p>WARNING:  THIS LINK GOES TO A WELL KNOWN MERCENARY FIRM.  IF YOU CLICK ON IT YOU WILL BE TRACKED.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.triplecanopy.com/triplecanopy/en/home/" rel="nofollow">http://www.triplecanopy.com/triplecanopy/en/home/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65461</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddha Is Laughing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gyges,

&quot;The question is am I making a joke or illustrating a point?&quot;

The two are not mutually exclusive.  I think that works as both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gyges,</p>
<p>&#8220;The question is am I making a joke or illustrating a point?&#8221;</p>
<p>The two are not mutually exclusive.  I think that works as both.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65460</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 4th of July to you all!  

It has been a pleasure to read this blog and the thoughts of all those who comment here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy 4th of July to you all!  </p>
<p>It has been a pleasure to read this blog and the thoughts of all those who comment here.</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65456</link>
		<dc:creator>eniobob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor,Thank You.</description>
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		<title>By: whooliebacon</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65455</link>
		<dc:creator>whooliebacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pop!   Pop Pop!   Pop Pop Pop!     Frizzzzzz      Ka-Boom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pop!   Pop Pop!   Pop Pop Pop!     Frizzzzzz      Ka-Boom!</p>
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		<title>By: Gyges</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65454</link>
		<dc:creator>Gyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Fourth of July everyone. Remember that nothing says America like blowing up something invented by the Chinese while listening to a song about the Russian victory over French forces and eating food first made by Germans (and unless your beer happens to be Anchor Steam Beer, drinking a beer that style was developed somewhere over the pond).

  The question is am I making a joke or illustrating a point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Fourth of July everyone. Remember that nothing says America like blowing up something invented by the Chinese while listening to a song about the Russian victory over French forces and eating food first made by Germans (and unless your beer happens to be Anchor Steam Beer, drinking a beer that style was developed somewhere over the pond).</p>
<p>  The question is am I making a joke or illustrating a point?</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65453</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rafflaw,

Careful with those fireworks and &quot;god bless our veterans&quot; is just where I was going!

&quot;Episode 208: Summer Sucks
Premiere:
June 24, 1998
Plot:
At the end of the school year, Mr. Garrison has lost Mr. Hat, and must endure without him. Summer doesn&#039;t work out well for the boys, who can&#039;t go sledding or build snowmen anymore, and their only source of summer pleasure, fireworks, have been banned. For South Park&#039;s July 4th celebration, the Mayor gets a giant &quot;snake&quot; instead of fireworks. Jimbo takes matters into his own hands by going to Mexico to get fireworks. On his way back, he is arrested for smuggling explosives. Back in South Park, the snake is lit, but it produces an incredible amount of ash, so much that it carves a path of destruction throughout North America. Ash arrives in New York after Dr. Katz tells Mr. Garrison that he is gay, not Mr. Hat, and then it destroys the Mexican prison holding Jimbo. Jimbo brings the Fireworks back to South Park, and they are fired at the snake, making the ash disintegrate, fall like snow, and extinguish the snake.&quot;

http://www.filmhead.com/slithy/southpark/spepisodes2.html

Happy Fourth of Jooewl-I!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rafflaw,</p>
<p>Careful with those fireworks and &#8220;god bless our veterans&#8221; is just where I was going!</p>
<p>&#8220;Episode 208: Summer Sucks<br />
Premiere:<br />
June 24, 1998<br />
Plot:<br />
At the end of the school year, Mr. Garrison has lost Mr. Hat, and must endure without him. Summer doesn&#8217;t work out well for the boys, who can&#8217;t go sledding or build snowmen anymore, and their only source of summer pleasure, fireworks, have been banned. For South Park&#8217;s July 4th celebration, the Mayor gets a giant &#8220;snake&#8221; instead of fireworks. Jimbo takes matters into his own hands by going to Mexico to get fireworks. On his way back, he is arrested for smuggling explosives. Back in South Park, the snake is lit, but it produces an incredible amount of ash, so much that it carves a path of destruction throughout North America. Ash arrives in New York after Dr. Katz tells Mr. Garrison that he is gay, not Mr. Hat, and then it destroys the Mexican prison holding Jimbo. Jimbo brings the Fireworks back to South Park, and they are fired at the snake, making the ash disintegrate, fall like snow, and extinguish the snake.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.filmhead.com/slithy/southpark/spepisodes2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.filmhead.com/slithy/southpark/spepisodes2.html</a></p>
<p>Happy Fourth of Jooewl-I!</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65452</link>
		<dc:creator>rafflaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddha,
The fact that the surging White Sox smoked your Royals makes this an even better Fourth of July!  Happy Fourth of July to all and try to remember your friends and relatives serving in the military today.  And be careful with those fireworks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddha,<br />
The fact that the surging White Sox smoked your Royals makes this an even better Fourth of July!  Happy Fourth of July to all and try to remember your friends and relatives serving in the military today.  And be careful with those fireworks!</p>
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		<title>By: jonathanturley</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65443</link>
		<dc:creator>jonathanturley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eniobob:

I have added the video to the entry. Thanks!</description>
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<p>I have added the video to the entry. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65442</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddha Is Laughing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 4th Everyone!

We are BBQing here today.  Last night we went to watch our Royals apparently forget how to play offense against the White Sox and watched the fireworks afterward.  Hot dogs that had been cooking since June.  Beer.  Laughing at the guy in front of us someone had cut out a huge divot of hair on the back his head (seriously, one of the most egregious notch jobs I&#039;ve ever seen - BZZZZT!).  It was quite traditional and the new Kaufman Stadium was pretty swanky.  

Whatever you&#039;re doing, wherever you are, I hope you all have a safe and happy holiday and no one notches your hair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy 4th Everyone!</p>
<p>We are BBQing here today.  Last night we went to watch our Royals apparently forget how to play offense against the White Sox and watched the fireworks afterward.  Hot dogs that had been cooking since June.  Beer.  Laughing at the guy in front of us someone had cut out a huge divot of hair on the back his head (seriously, one of the most egregious notch jobs I&#8217;ve ever seen &#8211; BZZZZT!).  It was quite traditional and the new Kaufman Stadium was pretty swanky.  </p>
<p>Whatever you&#8217;re doing, wherever you are, I hope you all have a safe and happy holiday and no one notches your hair.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65441</link>
		<dc:creator>mespo727272</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my favorite 4th of July in eight years!!</description>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65440</link>
		<dc:creator>eniobob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDkP2WaEYFE&amp;feature=featured</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/MDkP2WaEYFE/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65437</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymously Yours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you sir.

I do have a question for the literary genius&#039;s here: If the original American Hero&#039;s had not been successful and been tried as traitors, would we have still been a possession of the United Kingdom?

Would Spain still have Florida and the West Coast? Russia Alaska? The French Louisiana? But most importantly to me would Texas, be a part of Mexico or Spain or an Independent Republic or would the French have taken it over ever so slowly?

Happy 4th of July, but I read that it was really the 2nd but it made astrological sense to proclaim it on the 4th as most of the original signors were Masons, Free? That is still a question to be resolved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you sir.</p>
<p>I do have a question for the literary genius&#8217;s here: If the original American Hero&#8217;s had not been successful and been tried as traitors, would we have still been a possession of the United Kingdom?</p>
<p>Would Spain still have Florida and the West Coast? Russia Alaska? The French Louisiana? But most importantly to me would Texas, be a part of Mexico or Spain or an Independent Republic or would the French have taken it over ever so slowly?</p>
<p>Happy 4th of July, but I read that it was really the 2nd but it made astrological sense to proclaim it on the 4th as most of the original signors were Masons, Free? That is still a question to be resolved.</p>
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		<title>By: Dredd</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/04/happy-fourth-of-july-2/#comment-65436</link>
		<dc:creator>Dredd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy 4th of July too ...

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/07/unanimous-declaration.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy 4th of July too &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/07/unanimous-declaration.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/07/unanimous-declaration.html</a></p>
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