“documents obtained by Wired also point to a possible resurrection of the Total Information Awareness (TIA) program. Shortly after 9/11, the government sought to build TIA, a mammoth data mining operation that would trawl through an extensive list of databases containing personal information about Americans – including communications, medical, travel, education and financial data – in an attempt to detect supposedly “suspicious” patterns. Congress shut down the program amid bipartisan objections that it was the most far-reaching domestic surveillance proposal that had ever been offered. The ACLU has long suspected that the congressional dissent over and public demise of the Pentagon’s TIA program would result in a concealed and more invasive version of the program.

“It is not only troubling that the FBI is collecting this vast amount of information, but also that the information remains in the possession of the FBI, whether or not it is relevant to suspected criminal activity or reliable,” said Christopher Calabrese, ACLU Legislative Counsel. “The way this collection and retention works, if you happened to be staying at the same hotel or renting a car the same day as someone currently under FBI investigation, your private information is swept up and locked into one of these databases forever. The presumption of innocence is turned on its head and everyone becomes a suspect.”

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/09/24-25

There are still things coming out that we didn’t know before. If Holder is feeling a need to control it, perhaps he’s doing so, now, before he commences it.

Too many years of heartbreak have gone by for it to turn out any other way but well. Not if I have anything to say about it.

I don’t have to have it fast. I want it right.

Can somebody ’splain this to me. I’m a Democrat and I’d love to indict Bush. Why did JT say that “no Democrat wants to indict him [Bush]“?

Anybody whose opinion matters around here knows that I consider John Yoo a disgrace as a lawyer as author of the torture memos.

Nice try though, AY.

My sarcasm obviously went way over your head, but your cyberbabble and signature stellar wordsmith abilities, on the other hand, are a dead giveaway – every time.
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Well we certainly know your opinion sucks worse that the coast of Maine and is akin to how Rhode Island came to get its grant as an Original Colony. You must agree with the premise of Yoo as you keep posting here and Torturing souls without any remorse. So by default you must have adopted the memo’s and agree.

Your sarcasm is lost only on onto the author of the same. As you have to be able to understand what it is you are attempting to communicate or you are a fool for attempting to do so, this clearly you have grave difficulties doing.

However, I am rest assured you will understand the following attributed to Henny Youngman but could have been written as your life script:

“A drunk was in front of a judge. The judge say,s “You’ve been brought here for drinking.” The drunk says, “Okay, let’s get started.”

Or you in your claimed medical practice as the Nurse says:

“Doctor, the man you just gave a clean bill of health to dropped dead right as he was leaving the office”. Doctor: “Turn him around, make it look like he was walking in.”

So please do not attribute anything to me unless you know for certain I did in fact say it.

Nice try though, AY.

My sarcasm obviously went way over your head, but your cyberbabble and signature stellar wordsmith abilities, on the other hand, are a dead giveaway – every time.

Thank-you for all your very through work in battling the bizarre birthers and other phony baloney trolls!

Everybody is trembling in awe of my elite status.

Boy, I am one powerful bitch! I had no idea.

‘Let them eat cake’, seems trite…

Jeremy Scahill, who has been held up by Jill more often than I care to recall, has written at length on Gitmo, but he has never actually been there.

I love Bill Maher as he has provocative guests on his show, but as is often the case more recently, when I saw Jeremy Scahill there, I experienced him as a bit of a wacko, frankly. Which is probably why Bill had him on…

Obama is not Bush. He is not responsible for his crimes and I don’t have to listen to anyone who accuses him unfairly.

But Jill is very informed, as is Mike and Buddha and Mespo. What a great bunch of patriots.

Always an indelible read here and that’s good enough.

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I agree re Mike and Mespo. Jill and Buddha are a tad paranoid for my tastes.

Sunday July 12, 2009 08:13 EDT

The Holder trial balloon: Abu Ghraib redux

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/07/12/holder/index.html

But Jill is very informed, as is Mike and Buddha and Mespo. What a great bunch of patriots.

Always an indelible read here and that’s good enough.

Washington D.C. is a criminal organization masquerading as a democratic government.

The VERY NEXT video on all possible media outlets are the public Perp Walks of everyone involved…ESPECIALLY BUSH AND CHENEY…It would be a very, very good day for all the rest of us…

http://www.newsweek.com/id/206300

Panetta is spillin da beans

See Sensitive Covert Action Notifications: Oversight Options for Congress, July 7, 2009: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/R40691.pdf

Obama was welcomed home to the continent of his father’s birth by excited and admiring Africans, just as Kennedy was welcomed back to the island of his ancestors’ birth by excited and admiring Irishmen and Irishwomen. There is are more than one meaning to “welcome home.”

bdaman, you have said that you doubt that that Lance Armstrong landed on the Moon. Or was it Louis Armstrong? Or Jack Armstrong, the All American Boy? Nothing will ever convince YOU that there is no conspiracy.

I have posted rebuttals and links for all the false charges made so far so that the readers here can make their own judgments. As I said, paste-ups of birther mythes will be answered at the Turley site.

I will let my posts stand for themselves.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31860520/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times

Look at the sign on the bus

Friends of Obama, Welcome Home

This is why he didn’t want to go to Kenya to avoid all of this.

The house at 133 C St SE is exempt from property tax as religious E-1. This does not appear to be legal. The DC tax law is clear: exempt property must be used for worship, study, training, and missionary activities, or be reasonably required and actually used for the carrying on of the activities and purposes:

QUOTE ON DC ST § 47-1002
Chapter 10. Property Exempt from Taxation
Title 47. Taxation, Licensing, Permits, Assessments, and Fees.

Only the following real property shall be exempt from taxation in the District of Columbia:

(13) Churches, including buildings and structures reasonably necessary and usual in the performance of the activities of the church. A church building is one primarily and regularly used by its congregation for public religious worship;

(14) Buildings belonging to religious corporations or societies primarily and regularly used for religious worship, study, training, and missionary activities,

(15) Pastoral residences actually occupied as such by the pastor, rector, minister, or rabbi of a church; provided, that such pastoral residence be owned by the church or congregation for which said pastor, rector, minister, or rabbi officiates; and provided further, that not more than 1 such pastoral residence shall be so exempt for any 1 church or congregation;

(16) Episcopal residences owned by a church and used exclusively as the residence of a bishop of such church;

(18)(A) Grounds belonging to and reasonably required and actually used for the carrying on of the activities and purposes of any institution or organization entitled to exemption under the provisions of §§ 47-1002, 47-1005, and 47-1007 to 47-1010. UNQUOTE

For the lawyers at this site, it is my view that a property used as a residence is not exempt, unless used by the pastor. I have checked the records and found that if a church buys a private house, it stays on the tax rolls, even if a church staff member is allowed to rent it.

So 133 C St SE is a residence and should not be exempt from the property tax.

Access the record at https://www.taxpayerservicecenter.com/RP_Search.jsp?search_type=Assessment

Plug in 133 C St SE, Click on square lot 0733 0825. Then click “view payments.”

Assessment, one point eight million, taxes zero.

Then get a paid $29.95 spyware doctor from PC Tools with registry mechanic and ad-ware with ad watch live. Your computer is infected. I don’t have those problems you’ve incured.

Refer to the previous thread for Jill’s remarks. I am reposting mine here.

Jill is right — “The Family” clip is a must-see and truly alarming. I would agree that “we have had a coup in our own country.” And many Americans seem too busy to care and/or react.

My experiences comport with some sort of process or program that is absolutely contrary to the rule of law and, yet, it continues. Because there is no evidence, those who should be helping (local law enforcement and/or the FBI) make the claim that their hands are tied until “someone is hurt” or there is tangible evidence. In some cases, they take it a step further and “blame the victims”, apparently going to great lengths to do so.

Those involved in what seems to be some sort of “out of control” parallel (and arbitrary) justice system target individuals, keep them under unbelievably close surveillance, attempt to discredit them, and enter homes surreptitiously. There have been cases of vandalism and theft of personal property. It’s a sadistic, Machiavellian process that strips people of their 4th Amendment rights and leaves them with no recourse. It’s taking place in plain sight, but under the radar of most Americans. These are clearly campaigns of psychological harassment.

There is no justification for these campaigns of terror against many good, law-abiding, patriotic Americans. When the targets speak out, they are dismissed and labeled as paranoid or delusional. It’s a pretty brilliant scheme that permits what appears to be a state-sanctioned process to continue unabated.

I would stake my life on these claims — I know that what I’m saying is true beyond any shadow of a doubt.

These are truly perilous times. Someone needs to expose and stop what is yet another “program” being carried out all across America. We’re in “a world of trouble”, as it’s been said.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525

Jill posted the above link to another thread. It’s a must read.

Here’s another, more current link about “The Family”, titled “Washington’s secretive religious power sect” (Rachel Maddow, a couple of nights ago):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#31857408

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

WHAT in the world are you talking about? WHERE did you paste this up from?

http://www.kapiolanigift.org/press_room/Publications/Inspire%20Magazine%20Spring%202009.pdf

The letter is proudly displayed on page 8 of the pdf.

Every statement in that paragraph is wrong or totally irrelevant. Show us a link to a news article that has been “switched.”

At Dr. Conspiracy’s site, richCares has noted, for those unfamiliar with Hawaii, that Honolulu has two hospitals, both founded by Queens: a Maternity Hospital started by Queen Kapiolani, and a Medical Center started by Queen Emma; both hospitals are often called “Queen’s Hospital.” “If it’s Maternity, it’s probably Queen Kapiolani Maternity Home, the name it went by in the 60’s (now Queen Kapiolani Medical Center).” Rich said “these two Hospitals are often confused. If looking for Queens Hospital either may come up, so some made a mistake.

“However Obama and his family never varied in stating where he was born, Queen Kapiolani.

“Birthers trying to use a simple mistake to bolster their ignorant story, that’s normal for idiots grasping at straws. Yes, the birth certificate issue is over.”

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/07/hawaii-homelands-declares-short-form-good-enough/comment-page-9/#comment-13285

PS, The facility was originally opened by Queen Kapi’olani as the Kapi’olani Maternity Home in 1890[wiki]. Concerned about the welfare of Hawaii’s mothers and their babies, Queen Kapi’olani opened the Kapi’olani Maternity Home in 1890. From its inception, the hospital has played a vital role in the health of Hawaii’s women and children [official website].

There is a upi.com story out there that made this mistake.

The hospital still displays the letter on its site, and has it framed in its lobby.

Bdaman was certain that Maya Soetoro told reporters that Obama was born at Queens Medical Center, but I posted the original newsletter which showed that she was never quoted to that effect. The reporter, a high school student said it, and he made a mistake. No response yet.

Fight the Smears was a campaign website. The campaign is over. The birth certificate issue is over. Get over it.

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You did not post that “the minister said”.

Do that the next time.

Readers, use the link at your own risk.

What Is WorldNetDaily Hiding?
WorldNetDaily won’t subject itself to the transparency it demands from Barack Obama regarding his birth certificate.
By Terry Krepel
Posted 6/30/2009
Updated 7/5/2009

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2009/wndobamabirth4.html

I didn’t write it, the minister did. and the link works for me

http://www.modernghana.com/news/226379/1/history-beckons-as-prez-obama-arrives-tomorrow.html

By the way FYI all news articles that quoted Obama being born at Queens Hospital have been switched to say Kapi’Olani. Then Kapi’olani has now taken down the letter the president sent after it was posted on there website for six months. Fightthe smears website no longer available all this in the last 48 hours.

So there is a question whether the statement about continent of birth was ever made.

Even if it was, that foreign minister seems to be in no position to know.

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/03/the-new-math-louisiana-governor-bobby-jindal-solves-low-school-passage-rates-by-lowering-school-standards/

and

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/06/17/obama-adopts-cheney-policy-and-opposes-release-of-white-house-logs/

That is a lie.

it is either a conscious false statement, or made with reckless disregard of its truth or falsity.

There is abundant, credible evidence that is admissable in court that Obama was born in the US.

There is nothing but rumor, hearsay, and misstatements that he was born anywhere else.

See, for example, http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/

As I have posted before, there is little tolerance for false charges about Obama’s birth at the Turley site.

For Ghana, Obama’s visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth.

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/07/when-accountability-is-plague.html

The most egregious, frustating problem now in big politics, is anyone who has the power to do so, is absolutely utterly and explicitly refusing to prosecute obvious federal crimes; refusing to prosecute itself under these circumstances is federal crime. The proscutors have a monopoly on prosecution, citizens can only go so far as to make citizens arrests – if there was only the right to make citizen’s prosecutions as well, there wouldn’t be this bottleneck that intentionally stymies the resolution of massive criminal enterprise at the highest levels of government.
I feel emasculated in only being able to whine about it, and beg public law enforcement officials to investigate and prosecute.

“I agree with your frustration, but the answer is the rule of law being followed, no matter who is in office.”

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The law is only as good as the people administering and enforcing it. Even the Soviets had a Constitution conferring individual rights. As they say in the restaurant business, we need new cooks not better menus.

rafflaw,

Good idea as were those of others.

Jonathan,

You gave a fine explanation of a very complex situation. With this level of crimes it’s difficult to know where to begin. You made everything clear. Thank you.