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	<title>Comments on: Arizona Couple Sues Wal-Mart After Store Calls the Police on Them For Developing Pictures of Their Children in a Bathtub &#8212; And the Children Are Taken By the State</title>
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		<title>By: CHLIDREN TAKEN AWAY FROM PARENTS AFTER THEY GET PIC OF THEIR KIDS IN THE TUB DEVOLOPED &#124; Dy&#039;er Hear?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CHLIDREN TAKEN AWAY FROM PARENTS AFTER THEY GET PIC OF THEIR KIDS IN THE TUB DEVOLOPED &#124; Dy&#039;er Hear?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gorden</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-147330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gorden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When these cases arise, provided it is obviously not a child porn case, We the people should march to the courthouse steps with our baby bath pictures and expose them to the prosecutor on the court steps and see how many people they arrest.These innocent people need the support of others who have &quot;broken the same puritan laws&quot; I cant see them putting that many people in jail and taking away all their kids, $$$. but by law they will have to arrest all of us or throw out the one case that they think is going to make their career...Prosecutors are bad news all around when it comes to twisting something innocent into a sinister event just so they can get another notch on their belt..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When these cases arise, provided it is obviously not a child porn case, We the people should march to the courthouse steps with our baby bath pictures and expose them to the prosecutor on the court steps and see how many people they arrest.These innocent people need the support of others who have &#8220;broken the same puritan laws&#8221; I cant see them putting that many people in jail and taking away all their kids, $$$. but by law they will have to arrest all of us or throw out the one case that they think is going to make their career&#8230;Prosecutors are bad news all around when it comes to twisting something innocent into a sinister event just so they can get another notch on their belt..</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-89491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeannie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm ........I often look at the 17 year old photo of my son sitting naked (except for a diaper) in an old fashioned bucket with a rubber ducky ...and wonder . What was Walmart thinking when they offered in thier now infamous Walmart Portrait Studio ? Should&#039;nt they be brought up on charges for lewd photography too ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm &#8230;&#8230;..I often look at the 17 year old photo of my son sitting naked (except for a diaper) in an old fashioned bucket with a rubber ducky &#8230;and wonder . What was Walmart thinking when they offered in thier now infamous Walmart Portrait Studio ? Should&#8217;nt they be brought up on charges for lewd photography too ?</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-87772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what’s next? we can’t be naked in our own homes?

Why yes that is what&#039;s next.  A man was arrested for walking naked by a window in his own home at 5:30 A.M. when a mother of two just happened to be walking by his house.  She called the police and he was arrested, for being naked in his own home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what’s next? we can’t be naked in our own homes?</p>
<p>Why yes that is what&#8217;s next.  A man was arrested for walking naked by a window in his own home at 5:30 A.M. when a mother of two just happened to be walking by his house.  She called the police and he was arrested, for being naked in his own home.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-86399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Texas,

I guess yo momma didn&#039;t teach ya fool ass any manners, did shaw? I guess we got us Rick Perry reading articles again and he should pay attention to Arson investigations before Procedural Due Process is run amuck.... Oh yeah, after that its ok to kill em because it has been reviewed by all of the courts. Damn fool....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Texas,</p>
<p>I guess yo momma didn&#8217;t teach ya fool ass any manners, did shaw? I guess we got us Rick Perry reading articles again and he should pay attention to Arson investigations before Procedural Due Process is run amuck&#8230;. Oh yeah, after that its ok to kill em because it has been reviewed by all of the courts. Damn fool&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-86397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should take the author of this article to jail for his poor grammatical skills, does anyone proof read anymore?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should take the author of this article to jail for his poor grammatical skills, does anyone proof read anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Pinney</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-86394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pinney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And of course, the authorities handled this pretty much as poorly as possible once it was turned over to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, the authorities handled this pretty much as poorly as possible once it was turned over to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinney</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-86393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pinney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t understand why everyone is freaking out about this. Yeah, it&#039;s an unfortunate situation, but the walmart employee(s) only did what they were legally required to do. If you work in a photo center anywhere, department store or otherwise, and someone brings in photos of naked children to be developed, you have to take it to the police. No matter how innocent it looks, you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to do so. If they hadn&#039;t, they could lose their jobs and have lawsuits filed against them.

If anyone is to blame here, it&#039;s the parents for being stupid enough to bring naked pictures of their children to be developed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t understand why everyone is freaking out about this. Yeah, it&#8217;s an unfortunate situation, but the walmart employee(s) only did what they were legally required to do. If you work in a photo center anywhere, department store or otherwise, and someone brings in photos of naked children to be developed, you have to take it to the police. No matter how innocent it looks, you are LEGALLY REQUIRED to do so. If they hadn&#8217;t, they could lose their jobs and have lawsuits filed against them.</p>
<p>If anyone is to blame here, it&#8217;s the parents for being stupid enough to bring naked pictures of their children to be developed.</p>
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		<title>By: cindy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-86341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we&#039;re turning into Nazi Germany. what&#039;s next? we can&#039;t be naked in our own homes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;re turning into Nazi Germany. what&#8217;s next? we can&#8217;t be naked in our own homes?</p>
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		<title>By: Clarkson</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-86320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clarkson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The US is really becoming a bunch of paranoid freaks, government doing a fine job on you all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US is really becoming a bunch of paranoid freaks, government doing a fine job on you all.</p>
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		<title>By: dee</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-86307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VE SHALL NOT TAKE PICTURES OF OUR KINDER!

ANY SUCH PICTURES VILL BE CONFISCATED AND DESTROYED!

For God&#039;s sake...I have 4 stepchildren (1 boy, 3 girls) and we wouldn&#039;t dare take photos of them even in a pool now.

We seem to be being guided towards Victorian-type family photos: twenty layers of clothing, stand absolutely still, no-one touching anyone else (God forbid one of the kids should have their arm round another - what are these perverted parents thinking???)

I think that common sense disappeared about the time...well, I just think common sense disappeared, period.

Dee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VE SHALL NOT TAKE PICTURES OF OUR KINDER!</p>
<p>ANY SUCH PICTURES VILL BE CONFISCATED AND DESTROYED!</p>
<p>For God&#8217;s sake&#8230;I have 4 stepchildren (1 boy, 3 girls) and we wouldn&#8217;t dare take photos of them even in a pool now.</p>
<p>We seem to be being guided towards Victorian-type family photos: twenty layers of clothing, stand absolutely still, no-one touching anyone else (God forbid one of the kids should have their arm round another &#8211; what are these perverted parents thinking???)</p>
<p>I think that common sense disappeared about the time&#8230;well, I just think common sense disappeared, period.</p>
<p>Dee</p>
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		<title>By: northtx</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-81537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[northtx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There’s a legal obligation to report suspicious photos but where’s the mandate to train &amp; certify the employees and the investigators so that they are qualified to make a proper distinction between a crime and a stimulus response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a legal obligation to report suspicious photos but where’s the mandate to train &amp; certify the employees and the investigators so that they are qualified to make a proper distinction between a crime and a stimulus response.</p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[D.D.driver
&quot;I’ve seen the pictures of my own cute kids in the tub. &quot;
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Right, there are whole generations of people that had baby pictures taken when the &#039;naked on a nice fuzzy sheepskin&#039; was part of the standard package. I think I discarded mine but I&#039;m certain the better half&#039;s is downstairs in the &#039;old photo&#039; drawer.

Next thing you know aging Nana&#039;s caught munching around on a baby&#039;s tummy and making funny sounds will be a capitol offense.

I think there&#039;s a deep-seated need for parents to have naked baby pictures taken- there they are, unencumbered by anything remotely cultural or societal, gleeful in their suds or sunbeam, &#039;as God made them&#039;. A beautiful thin and a touchstone to ward off all the evil that will ravage them later.

All of these jerks involved should pay until there&#039;s nothing left to pay with. Jerks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D.D.driver<br />
&#8220;I’ve seen the pictures of my own cute kids in the tub. &#8221;<br />
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<p>Right, there are whole generations of people that had baby pictures taken when the &#8216;naked on a nice fuzzy sheepskin&#8217; was part of the standard package. I think I discarded mine but I&#8217;m certain the better half&#8217;s is downstairs in the &#8216;old photo&#8217; drawer.</p>
<p>Next thing you know aging Nana&#8217;s caught munching around on a baby&#8217;s tummy and making funny sounds will be a capitol offense.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a deep-seated need for parents to have naked baby pictures taken- there they are, unencumbered by anything remotely cultural or societal, gleeful in their suds or sunbeam, &#8216;as God made them&#8217;. A beautiful thin and a touchstone to ward off all the evil that will ravage them later.</p>
<p>All of these jerks involved should pay until there&#8217;s nothing left to pay with. Jerks.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79876</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why indeed. 

I have it on good authority that everyone who posts here was once a naked child.  I myself was born that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why indeed. </p>
<p>I have it on good authority that everyone who posts here was once a naked child.  I myself was born that way.</p>
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		<title>By: margarita</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[margarita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Seeing pictures of naked children should sound the alarm for anyone.&lt;/i&gt;

Why?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Seeing pictures of naked children should sound the alarm for anyone.</i></p>
<p>Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bad cops!
Get under the house!
No donuts for you!

And Wal-Mart?  doooooooh.  Blastargrafinfragdalickintagdangitfrunenfruster!

You just make me so mad sometimes I can only speak gibberish. 

Authentic frontier gibberish.  

It&#039;s called &quot;Every time I think about you.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad cops!<br />
Get under the house!<br />
No donuts for you!</p>
<p>And Wal-Mart?  doooooooh.  Blastargrafinfragdalickintagdangitfrunenfruster!</p>
<p>You just make me so mad sometimes I can only speak gibberish. </p>
<p>Authentic frontier gibberish.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s called &#8220;Every time I think about you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to think the Wal-Mart employee was acting in the best interest of the children,  Seeing pictures of naked children should sound the alarm for anyone.  My concern is the police dept.s actions afterward.  Aren&#039;t they supposed to be able to interrpret situations like this and make a reasonable determination.  It&#039;s frightening these idiots carry guns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to think the Wal-Mart employee was acting in the best interest of the children,  Seeing pictures of naked children should sound the alarm for anyone.  My concern is the police dept.s actions afterward.  Aren&#8217;t they supposed to be able to interrpret situations like this and make a reasonable determination.  It&#8217;s frightening these idiots carry guns.</p>
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		<title>By: mr,ed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mr,ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In parts of some countries (China&#039;s one) you can end up in the legal process just by doing something a cop THINKS is illegal. Try bribing your way out of that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In parts of some countries (China&#8217;s one) you can end up in the legal process just by doing something a cop THINKS is illegal. Try bribing your way out of that!</p>
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		<title>By: Jericho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jericho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who takes away someone&#039;s children for developing pictures of them in a tub?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who takes away someone&#8217;s children for developing pictures of them in a tub?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I know I’m missing the point of the story, but I’m more amazed that there are still people who have film developed.&quot;

Stel,
  Interesting point in the sense that does anyone think that most child pornographers would get their film developed in stores?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know I’m missing the point of the story, but I’m more amazed that there are still people who have film developed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stel,<br />
  Interesting point in the sense that does anyone think that most child pornographers would get their film developed in stores?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is the most rediculous article I have read in a long while.  I have a 16 month old so and I have a bunch of pictures of him in the tub.  I do agree that we have not seen the pictures, so we really can&#039;t say whether the allegations were valid one way or another.  I am going to have to hope that these were innocent pictures of these children.

I can&#039;t imagine what these parents and children have gone through over the 30 day period.  I would be beside myself! 

I hope Walmart and or who ever else is being sued, loses their pants in the end.  This is a disgusting example of the police overstepping their authority.

Stel Pavlou-  You can upload you digital prints to and store and have them printed off.  I do it all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the most rediculous article I have read in a long while.  I have a 16 month old so and I have a bunch of pictures of him in the tub.  I do agree that we have not seen the pictures, so we really can&#8217;t say whether the allegations were valid one way or another.  I am going to have to hope that these were innocent pictures of these children.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine what these parents and children have gone through over the 30 day period.  I would be beside myself! </p>
<p>I hope Walmart and or who ever else is being sued, loses their pants in the end.  This is a disgusting example of the police overstepping their authority.</p>
<p>Stel Pavlou-  You can upload you digital prints to and store and have them printed off.  I do it all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[foo asks a good question: was there a violation of due process?  The removal of the children had to have been ordered by a court, and surely the law does not require a court to order a removal solely on the basis of a police allegation of child pornography, without a hearing.  If there was a hearing, and the judge ordered the removal, then he or she should be impeached.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>foo asks a good question: was there a violation of due process?  The removal of the children had to have been ordered by a court, and surely the law does not require a court to order a removal solely on the basis of a police allegation of child pornography, without a hearing.  If there was a hearing, and the judge ordered the removal, then he or she should be impeached.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79727</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to our puritanical police state.  At least they didn&#039;t taser the parents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to our puritanical police state.  At least they didn&#8217;t taser the parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Stel Pavlou</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stel Pavlou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I&#039;m missing the point of the story, but I&#039;m more amazed that there are still people who have film developed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m missing the point of the story, but I&#8217;m more amazed that there are still people who have film developed.</p>
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		<title>By: D.D. Driver</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D.D. Driver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t anyone just a little concerned about chilling effect of holding people liable for reporting potential crimes to the police in good faith (albeit stupid good faith).

To use a recent analogy, should Prof. Gates&#039;s neighbor who called the cops be held liable for the cops conduct when he showed up?  

Do we really want to create a climate where citizens have to fear litigation if they think a crime in being comitted but are wrong?

As a final point: no one here has actually seen the pictures.  I&#039;ve seen the pictures of my own cute kids in the tub.  When I read this story, that is what I envision because that is what I am familiar with.

But its not too tough to imagine cute pictures veering into creepy territory.  (Unless we create a per se rule that as longs as two children are naked in a bathtub everything is on the up and up.)

At that point, I *don&#039;t* want the minimum wage employee at Walmart dismissing the photos as harmless.  The Walmart employee SHOULD call the cops.  Its the cops&#039; job to get it right, not Walmart&#039;s.  And imagine the opposite scenario where children are being harmed and the Walmart employee looks the other way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t anyone just a little concerned about chilling effect of holding people liable for reporting potential crimes to the police in good faith (albeit stupid good faith).</p>
<p>To use a recent analogy, should Prof. Gates&#8217;s neighbor who called the cops be held liable for the cops conduct when he showed up?  </p>
<p>Do we really want to create a climate where citizens have to fear litigation if they think a crime in being comitted but are wrong?</p>
<p>As a final point: no one here has actually seen the pictures.  I&#8217;ve seen the pictures of my own cute kids in the tub.  When I read this story, that is what I envision because that is what I am familiar with.</p>
<p>But its not too tough to imagine cute pictures veering into creepy territory.  (Unless we create a per se rule that as longs as two children are naked in a bathtub everything is on the up and up.)</p>
<p>At that point, I *don&#8217;t* want the minimum wage employee at Walmart dismissing the photos as harmless.  The Walmart employee SHOULD call the cops.  Its the cops&#8217; job to get it right, not Walmart&#8217;s.  And imagine the opposite scenario where children are being harmed and the Walmart employee looks the other way.</p>
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		<title>By: foo</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it incredible that the law allows for such an easy separation of parent and child based on a subjective police standard. Can they allege a due process violation here? This certainly &quot;shocks [my] conscience.&quot; Haven&#039;t parents taken pictures of their children in the tub for decades?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it incredible that the law allows for such an easy separation of parent and child based on a subjective police standard. Can they allege a due process violation here? This certainly &#8220;shocks [my] conscience.&#8221; Haven&#8217;t parents taken pictures of their children in the tub for decades?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken in Tucson</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken in Tucson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a lawyer, so I don&#039;t if Walmart is legally liable in this case. I certainly hope they lose and have to pay through the nose. This isn&#039;t the first time we&#039;ve seen this kind of disgusting behavior on their part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a lawyer, so I don&#8217;t if Walmart is legally liable in this case. I certainly hope they lose and have to pay through the nose. This isn&#8217;t the first time we&#8217;ve seen this kind of disgusting behavior on their part.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/09/18/arizona-couple-sues-wal-mart-after-store-calls-the-police-on-them-for-developing-pictures-of-this-children-in-a-bathtub-and-the-children-are-taken-by-the-state/#comment-79692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This seems like a good claim of abuse against the state. Some common sense should prevail.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like a good claim of abuse against the state. Some common sense should prevail.</p>
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