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		<title>By: Vince Treacy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-114769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Treacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an update.

The Judge has been disbarred:

&quot;Former Judge Herman Thomas of Mobile County was disbarred Monday after a closed hearing, report the Associated Press, the Press Register and WKRG. Thomas is currently campaigning for state senator.

&quot;Tony McLain, general counsel of the Alabama State Bar, said there was evidence that Thomas paddled inmates and that he talked to inmates without attorneys present, the Press Register story says. According to McLain, Thomas testified that he did spank five young men for discipline, but none of them were criminal defendants in his courtroom.&quot;

Thomas’ lawyer, Robert &quot;Cowboy Bob&quot; Clark, said he plans to appeal.

http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/article/judge_accused_of_paddling_inmates_is_disbarred]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an update.</p>
<p>The Judge has been disbarred:</p>
<p>&#8220;Former Judge Herman Thomas of Mobile County was disbarred Monday after a closed hearing, report the Associated Press, the Press Register and WKRG. Thomas is currently campaigning for state senator.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tony McLain, general counsel of the Alabama State Bar, said there was evidence that Thomas paddled inmates and that he talked to inmates without attorneys present, the Press Register story says. According to McLain, Thomas testified that he did spank five young men for discipline, but none of them were criminal defendants in his courtroom.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thomas’ lawyer, Robert &#8220;Cowboy Bob&#8221; Clark, said he plans to appeal.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/article/judge_accused_of_paddling_inmates_is_disbarred" rel="nofollow">http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/article/judge_accused_of_paddling_inmates_is_disbarred</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-114028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Floyd Martin.

Get a jump start. Thats a fairly sophisticated nom de plume de jour. Tell all the others the family is well, I hope yours are too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Floyd Martin.</p>
<p>Get a jump start. Thats a fairly sophisticated nom de plume de jour. Tell all the others the family is well, I hope yours are too.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd Martin</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-114004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Floyd Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours is a Idiot!

Hitler and his goons created the Peoples Car
The Volkswagon!
It was suppose to be affordable for all the people!
But of course you had to take it out of context and make a big deal out of nothing!
No Hitler never said he created the Automobile!

1, October 27, 2009 at 4:48 pm 
Alan,

I must censor what you read. I read the article and link and I am aghast. If Scalia really stated this and it out of the article: 

“Hitler developed a wonderful automobile,” Scalia said. “What does that prove?”

I will ask you does this clown (Scalia) not remember that it was not Hitler that created any such automobile. It had already been created in France in the late 1800]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymously Yours is a Idiot!</p>
<p>Hitler and his goons created the Peoples Car<br />
The Volkswagon!<br />
It was suppose to be affordable for all the people!<br />
But of course you had to take it out of context and make a big deal out of nothing!<br />
No Hitler never said he created the Automobile!</p>
<p>1, October 27, 2009 at 4:48 pm<br />
Alan,</p>
<p>I must censor what you read. I read the article and link and I am aghast. If Scalia really stated this and it out of the article: </p>
<p>“Hitler developed a wonderful automobile,” Scalia said. “What does that prove?”</p>
<p>I will ask you does this clown (Scalia) not remember that it was not Hitler that created any such automobile. It had already been created in France in the late 1800</p>
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		<title>By: Beka Shakur</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-93662</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beka Shakur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IF this man is not Boule, then the jury acquitted him 2 see some &#039;street justice&#039;. If this man is &#039;truly&#039; guilty, which in my opinion, I wouldn&#039;t have been one 2 acquit him, Justice will prevail. It alwayz has, and alwayz will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF this man is not Boule, then the jury acquitted him 2 see some &#8216;street justice&#8217;. If this man is &#8216;truly&#8217; guilty, which in my opinion, I wouldn&#8217;t have been one 2 acquit him, Justice will prevail. It alwayz has, and alwayz will.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-88863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eleven minute interview with the judge (click play on video)
http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/alabama/thomas_trial_judge_neilson_speaks_out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eleven minute interview with the judge (click play on video)<br />
<a href="http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/alabama/thomas_trial_judge_neilson_speaks_out" rel="nofollow">http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/alabama/thomas_trial_judge_neilson_speaks_out</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The belated &quot;that&#039;s not the way we voted&quot; story sounded sketchy to me.

http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/mobile_county_district_attorne_2.html :

Mobile County District Attorney John Tyson Jr. said this afternoon that the Herman Thomas trial is finished after 3 jurors who had come forward with concerns about the not guilty verdicts refused to sign affidavits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The belated &#8220;that&#8217;s not the way we voted&#8221; story sounded sketchy to me.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/mobile_county_district_attorne_2.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/mobile_county_district_attorne_2.html</a> :</p>
<p>Mobile County District Attorney John Tyson Jr. said this afternoon that the Herman Thomas trial is finished after 3 jurors who had come forward with concerns about the not guilty verdicts refused to sign affidavits.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87887</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three jurors complained to the District Attorneys office this week that they didn&#039;t vote &quot;not guilty&quot; in the Thomas case. Late Thursday afternoon, one juror contacted District Attorney John Tyson Jr. and said she didn&#039;t want to be associated with the case anymore. Another says he doesn&#039;t know how he voted and the third says he didn&#039;t want to be the only juror involved in the dispute.

The District Attorney&#039;s office has decided not to file paperwork with an appellate court disputing the Thomas verdict.

http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/Jurors-Withdraw-Complaints-In-Herman-Thomas/isVwdv4Wr02RJRHX4QBlnA.cspx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three jurors complained to the District Attorneys office this week that they didn&#8217;t vote &#8220;not guilty&#8221; in the Thomas case. Late Thursday afternoon, one juror contacted District Attorney John Tyson Jr. and said she didn&#8217;t want to be associated with the case anymore. Another says he doesn&#8217;t know how he voted and the third says he didn&#8217;t want to be the only juror involved in the dispute.</p>
<p>The District Attorney&#8217;s office has decided not to file paperwork with an appellate court disputing the Thomas verdict.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/Jurors-Withdraw-Complaints-In-Herman-Thomas/isVwdv4Wr02RJRHX4QBlnA.cspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/Jurors-Withdraw-Complaints-In-Herman-Thomas/isVwdv4Wr02RJRHX4QBlnA.cspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87880</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The prosecutor has now reportedly decided not to pursue any post-trial motions]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prosecutor has now reportedly decided not to pursue any post-trial motions</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One juror gives a very candid interview about the jury deliberations.  The jury was reportedly 11 to 1 in favor of conviction on one count of attempted sodomy. http://lagniappemobile.com/articles/2755-thomas-juror-speaks-out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One juror gives a very candid interview about the jury deliberations.  The jury was reportedly 11 to 1 in favor of conviction on one count of attempted sodomy. <a href="http://lagniappemobile.com/articles/2755-thomas-juror-speaks-out" rel="nofollow">http://lagniappemobile.com/articles/2755-thomas-juror-speaks-out</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The prosecutor now says he wants to depose the jurors about their deliberations
http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_case_juror_says.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prosecutor now says he wants to depose the jurors about their deliberations<br />
<a href="http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_case_juror_says.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_case_juror_says.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

You are correct. I thought I have read that somewhere. Even I am wrong sometime, more times than I can count thought, I am sure.

http://www.wkrg.com/alabama/article/verdict-does-not-mean-thomas-will-get-law-license-back/486063/Oct-27-2009_6-38-pm/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>You are correct. I thought I have read that somewhere. Even I am wrong sometime, more times than I can count thought, I am sure.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wkrg.com/alabama/article/verdict-does-not-mean-thomas-will-get-law-license-back/486063/Oct-27-2009_6-38-pm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wkrg.com/alabama/article/verdict-does-not-mean-thomas-will-get-law-license-back/486063/Oct-27-2009_6-38-pm/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; since the State of Alabama Bar met and declined to reinstate him once the case was dismissed tells me something more is going on behind the scenes

Can you cite a source for that?  It is my understanding that following his temporary suspension, further disciplinary proceedings were stayed by mutual agreement pending the outcome of the criminal trial.  See http://www.gadsdentimes.com/article/20091027/APN/910271972]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; since the State of Alabama Bar met and declined to reinstate him once the case was dismissed tells me something more is going on behind the scenes</p>
<p>Can you cite a source for that?  It is my understanding that following his temporary suspension, further disciplinary proceedings were stayed by mutual agreement pending the outcome of the criminal trial.  See <a href="http://www.gadsdentimes.com/article/20091027/APN/910271972" rel="nofollow">http://www.gadsdentimes.com/article/20091027/APN/910271972</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

In his latest publicity stunt, the prosecutor now says he plans to file a “writ of mandamus” with the appeals court.

*********************
A writ such as this is a request for the higher court to Order the lower court to do something rather than wait for the hope of am  expedited Appeal. This rarely happens. However, since the State of Alabama Bar met and declined to reinstate him once the case was dismissed tells me something more is going on behind the scenes. 

This will set up some interesting cases to be followed on either side as a lot of what we take for a matter of fact in the judicial system will be toast as we know it.

It will set up Federalism to come about ever so more quickly. I fear that we will only have one body of law and that will be how the special court such as Marshall Law interpret them.

Is the ride over and can I get off yet? Some parts of this make me feel squeamish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>In his latest publicity stunt, the prosecutor now says he plans to file a “writ of mandamus” with the appeals court.</p>
<p>*********************<br />
A writ such as this is a request for the higher court to Order the lower court to do something rather than wait for the hope of am  expedited Appeal. This rarely happens. However, since the State of Alabama Bar met and declined to reinstate him once the case was dismissed tells me something more is going on behind the scenes. </p>
<p>This will set up some interesting cases to be followed on either side as a lot of what we take for a matter of fact in the judicial system will be toast as we know it.</p>
<p>It will set up Federalism to come about ever so more quickly. I fear that we will only have one body of law and that will be how the special court such as Marshall Law interpret them.</p>
<p>Is the ride over and can I get off yet? Some parts of this make me feel squeamish.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87674</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his latest publicity stunt, the prosecutor now says he plans to file a &quot;writ of mandamus&quot; with the appeals court

http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/1256721311135050.xml&amp;coll=3]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his latest publicity stunt, the prosecutor now says he plans to file a &#8220;writ of mandamus&#8221; with the appeals court</p>
<p><a href="http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/1256721311135050.xml&#038;coll=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.al.com/news/press-register/metro.ssf?/base/news/1256721311135050.xml&#038;coll=3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

That is correct. It was indeed a civil case. Jeopardy only attaches in criminal proceedings. But once the jury was empaneled Jeopardy attached. The jury dismissed/acquitted on some charges directly and by stating that they were hung it was up the judge to decide as a trier of fact based upon the evidence presented whether to proceed or not. I think the Prosecutor has an up hill burden. 

Same basic issue as Ford was it over once a settlement was entered?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>That is correct. It was indeed a civil case. Jeopardy only attaches in criminal proceedings. But once the jury was empaneled Jeopardy attached. The jury dismissed/acquitted on some charges directly and by stating that they were hung it was up the judge to decide as a trier of fact based upon the evidence presented whether to proceed or not. I think the Prosecutor has an up hill burden. </p>
<p>Same basic issue as Ford was it over once a settlement was entered?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S., By &quot;double jeopardy&quot;, I of course mean the Fifth Amendment prohibition on double jeopardy in criminal prosecutions]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S., By &#8220;double jeopardy&#8221;, I of course mean the Fifth Amendment prohibition on double jeopardy in criminal prosecutions</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was a civil case.  Double jeopardy does not apply to civil cases, but it does apply to criminal cases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a civil case.  Double jeopardy does not apply to civil cases, but it does apply to criminal cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

Well if they do it like they do in Texas then it can be set aside. Ford had reached a settlement inquire within the all knowing Turley Site for answers:

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/24/texas-supreme-court-overturns-verdict-based-on-nine-word-note-from-foreperson/

It would not surprise me in the least if they were allowed to retry this man on these acquitted charges.  I expect that the special master was tired of this case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>Well if they do it like they do in Texas then it can be set aside. Ford had reached a settlement inquire within the all knowing Turley Site for answers:</p>
<p><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/24/texas-supreme-court-overturns-verdict-based-on-nine-word-note-from-foreperson/" rel="nofollow">http://jonathanturley.org/2009/04/24/texas-supreme-court-overturns-verdict-based-on-nine-word-note-from-foreperson/</a></p>
<p>It would not surprise me in the least if they were allowed to retry this man on these acquitted charges.  I expect that the special master was tired of this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The prosecutor is apparently going to attempt to get the acquittal set aside based on an alleged irregularity in reporting the verdict.  Likely a political/publicity stunt, since he must know double jeopardy bars the reinstatement of these charges.

http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/da_plans_to_file_motion_in_thomas_case]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prosecutor is apparently going to attempt to get the acquittal set aside based on an alleged irregularity in reporting the verdict.  Likely a political/publicity stunt, since he must know double jeopardy bars the reinstatement of these charges.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/da_plans_to_file_motion_in_thomas_case" rel="nofollow">http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/da_plans_to_file_motion_in_thomas_case</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87618</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rafflaw,

If you think paddling was challenging, you should have had the Nuns. I wish I had gotten paddled. I think some of the Nuns were former SERE instructors.

Oh, I did get my fair share after it was I was in parochial school. I am unsure if I was a challenge  or challenged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rafflaw,</p>
<p>If you think paddling was challenging, you should have had the Nuns. I wish I had gotten paddled. I think some of the Nuns were former SERE instructors.</p>
<p>Oh, I did get my fair share after it was I was in parochial school. I am unsure if I was a challenge  or challenged.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mrspo and AY,
The jury system is still good.  You have to take into account that this is Alabama, not the real world.  
AY,
If you think paddling was challenging, you should have had the Nuns.  I wish I had gotten paddled.  I think some of the Nuns were former SERE instructors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrspo and AY,<br />
The jury system is still good.  You have to take into account that this is Alabama, not the real world.<br />
AY,<br />
If you think paddling was challenging, you should have had the Nuns.  I wish I had gotten paddled.  I think some of the Nuns were former SERE instructors.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

I must censor what you read. I read the article and link and I am aghast. If Scalia really stated this and it out of the article: 

&quot;Hitler developed a wonderful automobile,&#039;&#039; Scalia said. &quot;What does that prove?&#039;&#039;

I will ask you does this clown (Scalia) not remember that it was not Hitler that created any such automobile. It had already been created in France in the late 1800, hence &quot;Auto Mobile&quot; and at the time frame he speaks he is talking about Italy as well and it was run by a communist manifesto as well. Think &quot;Rome, Berlin Tokyo, Axis&quot; not that I am the brightest bulb in the box but I could really do better. Maybe he is Sicilian, they have there own culture. Not wise to mess with them.

Back to the statement: He built the entire manufacturing plant on the backs of slave labor. Yeah,and a certain family profited off of the slave labor by financing these plants in Nazi Germany whose American Assets were frozen by FDR as conducting business with the enemy act. My how names have changed but the family remains the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>I must censor what you read. I read the article and link and I am aghast. If Scalia really stated this and it out of the article: </p>
<p>&#8220;Hitler developed a wonderful automobile,&#8221; Scalia said. &#8220;What does that prove?&#8221;</p>
<p>I will ask you does this clown (Scalia) not remember that it was not Hitler that created any such automobile. It had already been created in France in the late 1800, hence &#8220;Auto Mobile&#8221; and at the time frame he speaks he is talking about Italy as well and it was run by a communist manifesto as well. Think &#8220;Rome, Berlin Tokyo, Axis&#8221; not that I am the brightest bulb in the box but I could really do better. Maybe he is Sicilian, they have there own culture. Not wise to mess with them.</p>
<p>Back to the statement: He built the entire manufacturing plant on the backs of slave labor. Yeah,and a certain family profited off of the slave labor by financing these plants in Nazi Germany whose American Assets were frozen by FDR as conducting business with the enemy act. My how names have changed but the family remains the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87586</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[correction: it had been reported that Justice Scalia was misquoted
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2009/10/justice-scalia-comes-clean-on-brown-v.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction: it had been reported that Justice Scalia was misquoted<br />
<a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/2009/10/justice-scalia-comes-clean-on-brown-v.html" rel="nofollow">http://balkin.blogspot.com/2009/10/justice-scalia-comes-clean-on-brown-v.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

Thank you for the link. In response to the Sct. It is my understanding that a Judge is not to comment on cases former, current or pending except through a written opinion.

I wonder if Scalia is going to want to run for President or something like that. Usually they go from the Whitehouse to the Sct not the other way around. 

I believe JQA was the only one to go on to be a legislator. 

Adams was elected a U.S. Representative from Massachusetts after leaving office, the only president ever to do so, serving for the last 17 years of his life. In the House he became a leading opponent of the Slave Power and argued that if a civil war ever broke out the president could abolish slavery by using his war powers, which Abraham Lincoln partially did during the American Civil War in the 1863 Emancipation Proclamation.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Quincy_Adams

I guess I had forgotten that Monroe was the 5th. If I would have bet on this I would have said Washington was the first, Adams, Jefferson, Madison the Adam&#039;s. Heck, I had to google it up and it was Monroe, James that was the 5th President. I guess you forget the honest ones first. From what I understand he was too honest to be in office.

Maybe Hillary as SOS is positing herself as Adams did while Monroes SOS.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>Thank you for the link. In response to the Sct. It is my understanding that a Judge is not to comment on cases former, current or pending except through a written opinion.</p>
<p>I wonder if Scalia is going to want to run for President or something like that. Usually they go from the Whitehouse to the Sct not the other way around. </p>
<p>I believe JQA was the only one to go on to be a legislator. </p>
<p>Adams was elected a U.S. Representative from Massachusetts after leaving office, the only president ever to do so, serving for the last 17 years of his life. In the House he became a leading opponent of the Slave Power and argued that if a civil war ever broke out the president could abolish slavery by using his war powers, which Abraham Lincoln partially did during the American Civil War in the 1863 Emancipation Proclamation.</p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Quincy_Adams" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Quincy_Adams</a></p>
<p>I guess I had forgotten that Monroe was the 5th. If I would have bet on this I would have said Washington was the first, Adams, Jefferson, Madison the Adam&#8217;s. Heck, I had to google it up and it was Monroe, James that was the 5th President. I guess you forget the honest ones first. From what I understand he was too honest to be in office.</p>
<p>Maybe Hillary as SOS is positing herself as Adams did while Monroes SOS&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

Prairie View A&amp;M University. My dad taught there for one year on sabbatical. Everyone was very friendly and my memories of Prairie View are overall very good.
****************

Well we are a friendly lot here in Texas. I am just sorry that you had to be exposed to that Other school. You can recover if you wish even as traumatic as an experience that that A&amp; whats is that again. I am just traumatized just thinking that they were able to steal THE University money out of the PUF. 

On 28 May 1923, the Santa Rita No. 1 oil well, in Reagan County discovered the first oil on PUF land; in the following decades, the PUF&#039;s revenue made UT Austin among the best-endowed in the nation.

See Alan you just can&#039;t get better than that. Then some jack ass in the legislature redirected THE UNIVERSITYS money to that other system.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_University_Fund

Again, accept my condolences for being exposed to that theft.

I am only fuuna ya.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>Prairie View A&amp;M University. My dad taught there for one year on sabbatical. Everyone was very friendly and my memories of Prairie View are overall very good.<br />
****************</p>
<p>Well we are a friendly lot here in Texas. I am just sorry that you had to be exposed to that Other school. You can recover if you wish even as traumatic as an experience that that A&amp; whats is that again. I am just traumatized just thinking that they were able to steal THE University money out of the PUF. </p>
<p>On 28 May 1923, the Santa Rita No. 1 oil well, in Reagan County discovered the first oil on PUF land; in the following decades, the PUF&#8217;s revenue made UT Austin among the best-endowed in the nation.</p>
<p>See Alan you just can&#8217;t get better than that. Then some jack ass in the legislature redirected THE UNIVERSITYS money to that other system.</p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_University_Fund" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_University_Fund</a></p>
<p>Again, accept my condolences for being exposed to that theft.</p>
<p>I am only fuuna ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In other news, &quot;Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said he likely would have dissented from the historic 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision that declared school segregation illegal and struck down the system of &#039;separate but equal&#039; public schools&quot;

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/146308]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news, &#8220;Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said he likely would have dissented from the historic 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision that declared school segregation illegal and struck down the system of &#8216;separate but equal&#8217; public schools&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/146308" rel="nofollow">http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/146308</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87554</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a demonstration of how juries sometimes come up with compromise verdicts...

&quot;A jury member in the Herman Thomas trial says had he known the judge was going to rule not guilty once jurors couldn&#039;t reach a decision, he &#039;would have stood his ground.&#039; ... The juror, who did not want to be identified, said the jury thought it was going to be a hung jury.&quot;

http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/jurors_speak_day_after_thomas_ruling]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a demonstration of how juries sometimes come up with compromise verdicts&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;A jury member in the Herman Thomas trial says had he known the judge was going to rule not guilty once jurors couldn&#8217;t reach a decision, he &#8216;would have stood his ground.&#8217; &#8230; The juror, who did not want to be identified, said the jury thought it was going to be a hung jury.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/jurors_speak_day_after_thomas_ruling" rel="nofollow">http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/jurors_speak_day_after_thomas_ruling</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prairie View A&amp;M University.  My dad taught there for one year on sabbatical.  Everyone was very friendly and my memories of Prairie View are overall very good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prairie View A&amp;M University.  My dad taught there for one year on sabbatical.  Everyone was very friendly and my memories of Prairie View are overall very good.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87538</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

My condolences having to live so close to, whats that other schools name? Texas A and something.....

You know the main campus was men&#039;s only and some turned a hissy fit when women were allowed to go to school there....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>My condolences having to live so close to, whats that other schools name? Texas A and something&#8230;..</p>
<p>You know the main campus was men&#8217;s only and some turned a hissy fit when women were allowed to go to school there&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87535</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prairie View]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prairie View</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thought I would do this pumpkin, this year. No, not do the pumpkin but make this one.

http://images.meredith.com/parents/images/2008/08/ss_101273734.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I would do this pumpkin, this year. No, not do the pumpkin but make this one.</p>
<p><a href="http://images.meredith.com/parents/images/2008/08/ss_101273734.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://images.meredith.com/parents/images/2008/08/ss_101273734.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

LaPorte, Baytown or North like Magnolia?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>LaPorte, Baytown or North like Magnolia?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87530</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@AY: I was only 40 miles from you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AY: I was only 40 miles from you</p>
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		<title>By: Stel Pavlou</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87526</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stel Pavlou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who was it who said, &quot;Your fate is in the hands of 12 people who weren&#039;t smart enough to get out of jury duty.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was it who said, &#8220;Your fate is in the hands of 12 people who weren&#8217;t smart enough to get out of jury duty.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,

.... I also suspect that somewhere along the way he had a bad mentor himself, like a nun in Catholic school who called him into her office and then explained how the paddling he was about to receive would show him the error of his ways, open his heart to the Lord, and help him to one day become a productive citizen. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I myself experienced paddling in elementary school in Texas.
*******************

I was in the Office so much as a kid that I feel most comfortable there. I got spanked, damn I got spanked. I remember my Dad had to go to school with me because I had bruises on my ass from being spanked so often. I think they must have talked techniques after that I still got spanked but no bruises. Hmm, This is one reason that I never spanked my children. Now talk, yell, scream that was a different issue. 

Texas, 1967, 68 and 69 the years of Northland Elementary School, Humble, Texas. Good ole Mr. Towsend. I do not recall his first name as that was improper for children at that time to do. You were PG, not pregnant. My, my things have changed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>&#8230;. I also suspect that somewhere along the way he had a bad mentor himself, like a nun in Catholic school who called him into her office and then explained how the paddling he was about to receive would show him the error of his ways, open his heart to the Lord, and help him to one day become a productive citizen. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I myself experienced paddling in elementary school in Texas.<br />
*******************</p>
<p>I was in the Office so much as a kid that I feel most comfortable there. I got spanked, damn I got spanked. I remember my Dad had to go to school with me because I had bruises on my ass from being spanked so often. I think they must have talked techniques after that I still got spanked but no bruises. Hmm, This is one reason that I never spanked my children. Now talk, yell, scream that was a different issue. </p>
<p>Texas, 1967, 68 and 69 the years of Northland Elementary School, Humble, Texas. Good ole Mr. Towsend. I do not recall his first name as that was improper for children at that time to do. You were PG, not pregnant. My, my things have changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@AY: I tend to agree with you, that the Judge had good intentions but in the end it was a very bad idea.  I also suspect that somewhere along the way he had a bad mentor himself, like a nun in Catholic school who called him into her office and then explained how the paddling he was about to receive would show him the error of his ways, open his heart to the Lord, and help him to one day become a productive citizen.  As I mentioned in an earlier post, I myself experienced paddling in elementary school in Texas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AY: I tend to agree with you, that the Judge had good intentions but in the end it was a very bad idea.  I also suspect that somewhere along the way he had a bad mentor himself, like a nun in Catholic school who called him into her office and then explained how the paddling he was about to receive would show him the error of his ways, open his heart to the Lord, and help him to one day become a productive citizen.  As I mentioned in an earlier post, I myself experienced paddling in elementary school in Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87511</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[chris    1, October 27, 2009 at 10:45 am

So then why would it give “new” meaning to spanking the monkey?
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I guess maybe the Judge do the spanking? Have you ever been spanked by a Judge? I haven&#039;t....

If you will look at the other posts you will see that I have possibly defended this man. Think about that.

But really, in your mind I am a racists and white supremacists. All because of humor, now what is that word that black people can use that whites can&#039;t or they are considered a racist? It starts with ____?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chris    1, October 27, 2009 at 10:45 am</p>
<p>So then why would it give “new” meaning to spanking the monkey?<br />
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<p>I guess maybe the Judge do the spanking? Have you ever been spanked by a Judge? I haven&#8217;t&#8230;.</p>
<p>If you will look at the other posts you will see that I have possibly defended this man. Think about that.</p>
<p>But really, in your mind I am a racists and white supremacists. All because of humor, now what is that word that black people can use that whites can&#8217;t or they are considered a racist? It starts with ____?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan,


I personally do not feel that what this Judge did was without merit. I think in his heart he felt that he was doing the correct thing and who knows what the recidivist rate actually is or was.

The penal institution (No Pun or Racial usage intended) is more of a warehouse where incorrigible children become bad kids and turn into actual criminal with a whole lot of bad information that they learn from the prison experience. They learn new trades in the brotherhood. They learn to survive and from what I understand you have to trust someone to watch you back and you do have to prove yourself or you end up dead or somebody&#039;s bitch.

As I said earlier, I think that his ideal bad some redeeming value. Who knows? I know what we are doing now is clearly not working.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>I personally do not feel that what this Judge did was without merit. I think in his heart he felt that he was doing the correct thing and who knows what the recidivist rate actually is or was.</p>
<p>The penal institution (No Pun or Racial usage intended) is more of a warehouse where incorrigible children become bad kids and turn into actual criminal with a whole lot of bad information that they learn from the prison experience. They learn new trades in the brotherhood. They learn to survive and from what I understand you have to trust someone to watch you back and you do have to prove yourself or you end up dead or somebody&#8217;s bitch.</p>
<p>As I said earlier, I think that his ideal bad some redeeming value. Who knows? I know what we are doing now is clearly not working.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87509</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So then why would it give &quot;new&quot; meaning to spanking the monkey?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then why would it give &#8220;new&#8221; meaning to spanking the monkey?</p>
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		<title>By: Byron</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87508</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AY:

you forgot about cuffing the puppy and whuppin the woolly?

And how about bangin the cracker, now that just might have racial undertones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AY:</p>
<p>you forgot about cuffing the puppy and whuppin the woolly?</p>
<p>And how about bangin the cracker, now that just might have racial undertones.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87507</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[final report from al.com
http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_acquitted_on_all.html

timeline
http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_timeline_from_pr.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>final report from al.com<br />
<a href="http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_acquitted_on_all.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_acquitted_on_all.html</a></p>
<p>timeline<br />
<a href="http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_timeline_from_pr.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/herman_thomas_timeline_from_pr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan    1, October 27, 2009 at 10:19 am

I don’t understand what “the monkey” would be, and how this would give new meaning to “spanking the monkey”. Especially in the context of Blacks often being referred to as monkeys by racists and white supremacists, whatever that joke did intend, it is not funny.
******************

Let us stop this train where it is in the station right here right now. This is the usage intended not racial in the least.

2. 	spanking the monkey 	
	
waxing the carrot, choking the bishop, jacking the beanstock, yankee-ing the doodle,peting the one eyed wonder weasel, waxing the wood, caulking the cracks, jacking off, wanking. 

Link: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spanking+the+monkey]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan    1, October 27, 2009 at 10:19 am</p>
<p>I don’t understand what “the monkey” would be, and how this would give new meaning to “spanking the monkey”. Especially in the context of Blacks often being referred to as monkeys by racists and white supremacists, whatever that joke did intend, it is not funny.<br />
******************</p>
<p>Let us stop this train where it is in the station right here right now. This is the usage intended not racial in the least.</p>
<p>2. 	spanking the monkey 	</p>
<p>waxing the carrot, choking the bishop, jacking the beanstock, yankee-ing the doodle,peting the one eyed wonder weasel, waxing the wood, caulking the cracks, jacking off, wanking. </p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spanking+the+monkey" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spanking+the+monkey</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob,Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob,Esq.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Play It All Night Long
by Warren Zevon

Grandpa pissed his pants again
He don&#039;t give a damn
Brother Billy has both guns drawn
He ain&#039;t been right since Vietnam

&quot;Sweet home Alabama&quot;
Play that dead band&#039;s song
Turn those speakers up full blast
Play it all night long

Daddy&#039;s doing Sister Sally
Grandma&#039;s dying of cancer now
The cattle all have brucellosis
We&#039;ll get through somehow

&quot;Sweet home Alabama&quot;
Play that dead band&#039;s song
Turn those speakers up full blast
Play it all night long]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Play It All Night Long<br />
by Warren Zevon</p>
<p>Grandpa pissed his pants again<br />
He don&#8217;t give a damn<br />
Brother Billy has both guns drawn<br />
He ain&#8217;t been right since Vietnam</p>
<p>&#8220;Sweet home Alabama&#8221;<br />
Play that dead band&#8217;s song<br />
Turn those speakers up full blast<br />
Play it all night long</p>
<p>Daddy&#8217;s doing Sister Sally<br />
Grandma&#8217;s dying of cancer now<br />
The cattle all have brucellosis<br />
We&#8217;ll get through somehow</p>
<p>&#8220;Sweet home Alabama&#8221;<br />
Play that dead band&#8217;s song<br />
Turn those speakers up full blast<br />
Play it all night long</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87500</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand what &quot;the monkey&quot; would be, and how this would give new meaning to &quot;spanking the monkey&quot;.  Especially in the context of Blacks often being referred to as monkeys by racists and white supremacists, whatever that joke did intend, it is not funny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand what &#8220;the monkey&#8221; would be, and how this would give new meaning to &#8220;spanking the monkey&#8221;.  Especially in the context of Blacks often being referred to as monkeys by racists and white supremacists, whatever that joke did intend, it is not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No racial intent here. But I guess this gives new meaning to spanking the monkey. 

Sorry, my humor is bad.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No racial intent here. But I guess this gives new meaning to spanking the monkey. </p>
<p>Sorry, my humor is bad&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing is believing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kgni1XhADY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing is believing:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/8kgni1XhADY/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/10/27/judge-herman-thomas-acquitted/#comment-87489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The verdict did not surprise to me.  The evidence he paddled the inmates was strong, but he was not charged for that because it would have been only a misdemeanor and the statute of limitations had expired.  The sexual abuse case was very weak with the majority of witnesses testifying no sexual abuse took place.  At least one witness who claimed sexual abuse had a story that seemed not credible, and the rest lacked details which one would expect if actual sexual abuse took place.  These facts strongly supported the defense&#039;s suggestion that the inmates &quot;slanted&quot; their testimony for the prosecution in order to obtain more lenient treatment.  The semen evidence is puzzling, but even if it were not planted, it allegedly came from one of the prisoners, was not explained at trial and did not strongly support the prosecution&#039;s theory that the judge was sexually gratifying himself.  In the end, this was a weak case and the jury&#039;s verdict is not surprising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The verdict did not surprise to me.  The evidence he paddled the inmates was strong, but he was not charged for that because it would have been only a misdemeanor and the statute of limitations had expired.  The sexual abuse case was very weak with the majority of witnesses testifying no sexual abuse took place.  At least one witness who claimed sexual abuse had a story that seemed not credible, and the rest lacked details which one would expect if actual sexual abuse took place.  These facts strongly supported the defense&#8217;s suggestion that the inmates &#8220;slanted&#8221; their testimony for the prosecution in order to obtain more lenient treatment.  The semen evidence is puzzling, but even if it were not planted, it allegedly came from one of the prisoners, was not explained at trial and did not strongly support the prosecution&#8217;s theory that the judge was sexually gratifying himself.  In the end, this was a weak case and the jury&#8217;s verdict is not surprising.</p>
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		<title>By: eniobob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eniobob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now you tell me:

&quot;Justice is a contract of expediency, entered upon to prevent men harming or being harmed. 
Epicurus (341 BC - 270 BC)&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you tell me:</p>
<p>&#8220;Justice is a contract of expediency, entered upon to prevent men harming or being harmed.<br />
Epicurus (341 BC &#8211; 270 BC)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;However, some of their witnesses had to be dropped and one said that he was pressured to implicate the judge by his defense lawyer, here.&quot;


Does this mean that his defense attorney tried to implicate the judge or does this mean that another defense attorney tried to get his client to implicate they judge?

Either way this is a real blow to the Prosecutor.

Another thought, why did the Trial Judge do this? &quot;After being acquitted by the jury on major counts (but hanging on other counts), the trial judge directed a verdict on all counts in favor of Thomas.&quot;

What were the counts dismissed? Can the Prosecutor get a second bite at the apple? What was the composite of the Jury panel?

This one leaves a lot of unanswered questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, some of their witnesses had to be dropped and one said that he was pressured to implicate the judge by his defense lawyer, here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this mean that his defense attorney tried to implicate the judge or does this mean that another defense attorney tried to get his client to implicate they judge?</p>
<p>Either way this is a real blow to the Prosecutor.</p>
<p>Another thought, why did the Trial Judge do this? &#8220;After being acquitted by the jury on major counts (but hanging on other counts), the trial judge directed a verdict on all counts in favor of Thomas.&#8221;</p>
<p>What were the counts dismissed? Can the Prosecutor get a second bite at the apple? What was the composite of the Jury panel?</p>
<p>This one leaves a lot of unanswered questions.</p>
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		<title>By: mespo727272</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As we discussed in another current thread, maybe we should re-think the jury system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we discussed in another current thread, maybe we should re-think the jury system.</p>
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