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	<title>Comments on: Akron Professor Resigns Over New Policy Requiring DNA Samples From All Employees</title>
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		<title>By: herbicus</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/01/akron-professor-resigns-over-new-policy-requiring-dna-samples-from-all-employees/#comment-88561</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Matt! I just wish that everytime I write &#039;cheers&#039; you get $5. CHEERS CHEERS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Matt! I just wish that everytime I write &#8216;cheers&#8217; you get $5. CHEERS CHEERS</p>
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		<title>By: Dredd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dredd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are &quot;they&quot; unamericanizing us to americanize us?

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/11/unamericanizing-us-to-americanize-us.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are &#8220;they&#8221; unamericanizing us to americanize us?</p>
<p><a href="http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/11/unamericanizing-us-to-americanize-us.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/11/unamericanizing-us-to-americanize-us.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Williams</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/01/akron-professor-resigns-over-new-policy-requiring-dna-samples-from-all-employees/#comment-88387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please take a moment to sign the petition calling on The University of Akron to rescind the provision of Rule 3359-11-22 which enables the university to collect DNA samples from prospective employees.  The petition was started online by Matt Williams and is available at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/universityofakrondna/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please take a moment to sign the petition calling on The University of Akron to rescind the provision of Rule 3359-11-22 which enables the university to collect DNA samples from prospective employees.  The petition was started online by Matt Williams and is available at <a href="http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/universityofakrondna/" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/universityofakrondna/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/01/akron-professor-resigns-over-new-policy-requiring-dna-samples-from-all-employees/#comment-88374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes naomiah, there are exceptions to the rights enumerated in the 4th Amendment. It is called officer discretion and following the rules, both LEO&#039;s and Civilians. 

However, &quot;MOST&quot; LEO&#039;s are corrupt and dishonest or at least the ones I have dealt with in the criminal element. It was hard to see who the criminal is or was. The have had in the past the Code of Silence, they know when one of the crackers is bad but they don&#039;t do anything about them. They are even worst than the actual bad LEO&#039;s but most are too chicken **** to say anything. Therefore I do not trust MOST LEO&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes naomiah, there are exceptions to the rights enumerated in the 4th Amendment. It is called officer discretion and following the rules, both LEO&#8217;s and Civilians. </p>
<p>However, &#8220;MOST&#8221; LEO&#8217;s are corrupt and dishonest or at least the ones I have dealt with in the criminal element. It was hard to see who the criminal is or was. The have had in the past the Code of Silence, they know when one of the crackers is bad but they don&#8217;t do anything about them. They are even worst than the actual bad LEO&#8217;s but most are too chicken **** to say anything. Therefore I do not trust MOST LEO&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/01/akron-professor-resigns-over-new-policy-requiring-dna-samples-from-all-employees/#comment-88370</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[naomiah,

One person mentioned seat belts/vehicles; &quot;people&quot; did not, so do not generalize from one to the whole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>naomiah,</p>
<p>One person mentioned seat belts/vehicles; &#8220;people&#8221; did not, so do not generalize from one to the whole.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Byron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[where does this crap come from?  who is thinking this is a good idea?  it is similar to requiring all guns to have a ballistic signature on file.  Or to have a social security card or a drivers license.  or a dog tag, when is government going to stay out of my business?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where does this crap come from?  who is thinking this is a good idea?  it is similar to requiring all guns to have a ballistic signature on file.  Or to have a social security card or a drivers license.  or a dog tag, when is government going to stay out of my business?</p>
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		<title>By: naomiah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naomiah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t realize that driving was a right protected by the Constitution.  Thanks so much for filling me in.  Now I know it is my Constitutionally protected right to not only have a driver&#039;s license, but to disregard laws pertaining to having one.  Just the way there are absolutely no exceptions to the rights enumerated in the 4th amendment. Oh, wait....

Good lord, people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize that driving was a right protected by the Constitution.  Thanks so much for filling me in.  Now I know it is my Constitutionally protected right to not only have a driver&#8217;s license, but to disregard laws pertaining to having one.  Just the way there are absolutely no exceptions to the rights enumerated in the 4th amendment. Oh, wait&#8230;.</p>
<p>Good lord, people.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an stupid and unneccessary policy that should be removed.  I was also saddened that the great University of Akron doesn&#039;t provide health insurance for its teachers.  They should be ashamed of themselves on both issues.  This sounds more like a policy Wal Mart would put into place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an stupid and unneccessary policy that should be removed.  I was also saddened that the great University of Akron doesn&#8217;t provide health insurance for its teachers.  They should be ashamed of themselves on both issues.  This sounds more like a policy Wal Mart would put into place.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/01/akron-professor-resigns-over-new-policy-requiring-dna-samples-from-all-employees/#comment-88352</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that a lot of folks grew up without seat belts. 

I am say and will keep saying that sometimes rights are stripped away a little bit at a time until you have no rights.

It is like a oil drip on a vehicle. You can keep it going ok so long as it is serviced and keep a check on the oil level. Say you then have a gasket leak, well either you can put some gunk stuff to clog it and stop the leak or you can service it totally and do what is right to start with and keep it running. 

If you don&#039;t service it or keep track of the oil level then it goes away slowly and then the engine seizes up and then you don&#039;t go no where because the engine is useless and alls you have is expensive metal, plastic, fluids and rubber. 

The constitution is the engine and it must be serviced periodically by new laws or court cases. If you use the wrong type of oil it may still run but not the way the manufacture intended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a lot of folks grew up without seat belts. </p>
<p>I am say and will keep saying that sometimes rights are stripped away a little bit at a time until you have no rights.</p>
<p>It is like a oil drip on a vehicle. You can keep it going ok so long as it is serviced and keep a check on the oil level. Say you then have a gasket leak, well either you can put some gunk stuff to clog it and stop the leak or you can service it totally and do what is right to start with and keep it running. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t service it or keep track of the oil level then it goes away slowly and then the engine seizes up and then you don&#8217;t go no where because the engine is useless and alls you have is expensive metal, plastic, fluids and rubber. </p>
<p>The constitution is the engine and it must be serviced periodically by new laws or court cases. If you use the wrong type of oil it may still run but not the way the manufacture intended.</p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And it&#039;s ushered in on the premise of protecting our children. What, you don&#039;t want to protect the children? What&#039;s wrong with you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s ushered in on the premise of protecting our children. What, you don&#8217;t want to protect the children? What&#8217;s wrong with you?</p>
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		<title>By: Former Federal LEO</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Former Federal LEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following quoted excerpts are important because I fear that the weight of ignorance by the majority of our citizenry—regarding our Constitutional rights/liberties—is so heavy that it threatens to cause the complement of us to lose those cherished freedoms.  Please take the time to access the link and read this brief article, as a refresher.
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Quote:

[ Know Your Rights or You Will Lose Them

Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute

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“It astonishes me to find… [that so many] of our countrymen… should be contented to live under a system which leaves to their governors the power of taking from them the trial by jury in civil cases, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of commerce, the habeas corpus laws, and of yoking them with a standing army. This is a degeneracy in the principles of liberty… which I [would not have expected for at least] four centuries.” –Thomas Jefferson, 1788

Yet never has there been a time when knowing our rights has been more critical and safeguarding them more necessary. Particularly telling is the fact that even under the Obama presidency, most of the Bush administration policies and laws that curtailed our freedoms have remained intact–all of which have drastically altered the landscape of our liberties.

Thus, it is vital that we gain a better understanding of what Thomas Jefferson described as “fetters against doing evil.” If not, I fear that with each passing day, what Jefferson called the “degeneracy” of “the principles of liberty” will grow worse until, half asleep, Americans will lose what our forefathers fought and died for.

A short summary of the first ten amendments shows how vital these freedoms are.”]
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Read the full article here:
 
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/25/know-your-rights-or-you-will-lose-them/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following quoted excerpts are important because I fear that the weight of ignorance by the majority of our citizenry—regarding our Constitutional rights/liberties—is so heavy that it threatens to cause the complement of us to lose those cherished freedoms.  Please take the time to access the link and read this brief article, as a refresher.<br />
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<p>Quote:</p>
<p>[ Know Your Rights or You Will Lose Them</p>
<p>Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute</p>
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<p>“It astonishes me to find… [that so many] of our countrymen… should be contented to live under a system which leaves to their governors the power of taking from them the trial by jury in civil cases, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of commerce, the habeas corpus laws, and of yoking them with a standing army. This is a degeneracy in the principles of liberty… which I [would not have expected for at least] four centuries.” –Thomas Jefferson, 1788</p>
<p>Yet never has there been a time when knowing our rights has been more critical and safeguarding them more necessary. Particularly telling is the fact that even under the Obama presidency, most of the Bush administration policies and laws that curtailed our freedoms have remained intact–all of which have drastically altered the landscape of our liberties.</p>
<p>Thus, it is vital that we gain a better understanding of what Thomas Jefferson described as “fetters against doing evil.” If not, I fear that with each passing day, what Jefferson called the “degeneracy” of “the principles of liberty” will grow worse until, half asleep, Americans will lose what our forefathers fought and died for.</p>
<p>A short summary of the first ten amendments shows how vital these freedoms are.”]<br />
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<p>Read the full article here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/25/know-your-rights-or-you-will-lose-them/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/25/know-your-rights-or-you-will-lose-them/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/01/akron-professor-resigns-over-new-policy-requiring-dna-samples-from-all-employees/#comment-88302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And to think that no one got upset about the seat belt issue. It used to be a secondary offense not to wear one. Then it became a primary offense. Now even the passengers have to wear one or they and the driver face a ticket.

No one seemed to get upset about this but me. It saved lives. Well, take a little bit a way at a time and then what happens? You get what you asked for....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think that no one got upset about the seat belt issue. It used to be a secondary offense not to wear one. Then it became a primary offense. Now even the passengers have to wear one or they and the driver face a ticket.</p>
<p>No one seemed to get upset about this but me. It saved lives. Well, take a little bit a way at a time and then what happens? You get what you asked for&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ACLU is tracking this type of thing as well.  Here is a some info on govt. use of our DNA:

&quot;State and Federal DNA databanks are expanding at an alarming rate. A crime prevention tool that was originally intended only to track the most dangerous convicted felons, police departments and other law enforcement agencies across the country have begun collecting and permanently storing DNA from arrestees and other innocent persons. This trend not only represents a grave threat to privacy and the 4th Amendment, but it also turns the legal notion that a person is &quot;innocent until proven guilty&quot; on its head.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACLU is tracking this type of thing as well.  Here is a some info on govt. use of our DNA:</p>
<p>&#8220;State and Federal DNA databanks are expanding at an alarming rate. A crime prevention tool that was originally intended only to track the most dangerous convicted felons, police departments and other law enforcement agencies across the country have begun collecting and permanently storing DNA from arrestees and other innocent persons. This trend not only represents a grave threat to privacy and the 4th Amendment, but it also turns the legal notion that a person is &#8220;innocent until proven guilty&#8221; on its head.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: nal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-493&amp;show-changes=0&amp;page-command=print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;(b) Acquisition of Genetic Information- It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to request, require, or purchase genetic information with respect to an employee or a family member of the employee except-- ...&lt;/i&gt; 

I fail to see where the University of Akron falls into any of the exception categories.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-493&amp;show-changes=0&amp;page-command=print" rel="nofollow">Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008</a></p>
<p><i>(b) Acquisition of Genetic Information- It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to request, require, or purchase genetic information with respect to an employee or a family member of the employee except&#8211; &#8230;</i> </p>
<p>I fail to see where the University of Akron falls into any of the exception categories.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please visit http://www.newfacultymajority.info to learn how this and other such policies place a disproportionate burden on adjunct &amp; contingent faculty.  New Faculty Majority is the National Coalition for Adjunct &amp; Contingent Equity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please visit <a href="http://www.newfacultymajority.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.newfacultymajority.info</a> to learn how this and other such policies place a disproportionate burden on adjunct &amp; contingent faculty.  New Faculty Majority is the National Coalition for Adjunct &amp; Contingent Equity.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Der Motherland is proud very proud of compliance&#039;s of the people. You thought that the numbering system that I implemented years ago was so awful. Now look at you, you too want to do as I did and you want to track these people everywhere they are going. 

The world is better because of the laboratory&#039;s that were created just for this research. I now know why you waited more than 50 years to utilize it, the patented process has now expired and you do not have to pay me or my country royalties. 

AH.

With the main story Just stop and think how true and scary this really is. You want an ID card that carries all of your identification on it and if it gets lost or someone steals it or something. You are screwed.

Oh, another thought. For those that do International Travel get a Secure IR Passport Case. The elements have figured out how to read your passport information and utilize it for their own advantage. This is known as skimming. Link: http://travel.state.gov/passport/eppt/eppt_2788.html#Twelve]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Der Motherland is proud very proud of compliance&#8217;s of the people. You thought that the numbering system that I implemented years ago was so awful. Now look at you, you too want to do as I did and you want to track these people everywhere they are going. </p>
<p>The world is better because of the laboratory&#8217;s that were created just for this research. I now know why you waited more than 50 years to utilize it, the patented process has now expired and you do not have to pay me or my country royalties. </p>
<p>AH.</p>
<p>With the main story Just stop and think how true and scary this really is. You want an ID card that carries all of your identification on it and if it gets lost or someone steals it or something. You are screwed.</p>
<p>Oh, another thought. For those that do International Travel get a Secure IR Passport Case. The elements have figured out how to read your passport information and utilize it for their own advantage. This is known as skimming. Link: <a href="http://travel.state.gov/passport/eppt/eppt_2788.html#Twelve" rel="nofollow">http://travel.state.gov/passport/eppt/eppt_2788.html#Twelve</a></p>
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