Very nice article and thoughts. Looks like you know what’s going on. Will stop again….

Many don’t believe this but I’m a Psychic, it runs in the family. My grandfather knew the day, date and time he was going to die.

A judge told him

What did the judge tell you?

My but you are a simple creature. And not simple in the complementary sense of the word, bdabigot.

Yeah, you are an expert in rotating and pivoting. You just demonstrated you can do that move to try to make up for losing a stroke. Too bad your masters won’t give you a reach around.

TRY AGAIN.

Try to come close to a legitimate complaint. Or keep parading your small minded bigoted trollery.

Based on past performance, I’m thinking you’re more No. 2. In more ways than one. I don’t mean the Leo McKern/Ian McKellen character from “The Prisoner” either.

TRY AGAIN, HOMOPHOBIC BIGOT. Someone’s sexual orientation does not preclude them from a job in education nor prime facie evidence of pedophilia. Too bad for you, faggot hater.

If you get anywhere close to a legitimate issue, it’ll be amazing.

Frank Marshall taught Obama well.

Try again, you bigoted POS.

I agree, here allow me to give you an example

Barack Obama’s Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings founded the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). Recently he was appointed by the Obama administration to run the Office of Safe & Drug Free Schools in the US Department of Education. In 2007 Kevin Jennings was paid $273,573.96 as the executive director of GLSEN.

In 2000 GLSEN held an anniversary conference. From the content of the workshops it was clear that the organization was not so much about tolerance as it was about teaching children about sex. This conference was fully supported by the Massachusetts Department of Education, the Safe Schools Program, the Governor’s Commission on Gay & Lesbian Youth, and some of the presenters even received federal money.

One of the activists asks 14 year olds, “Spit or swallow?… Is it rude?”

Now why in the hell would The “O” appoint this guy school safety Czar. Open your mouth and make an O while pondering the question.

Ain’t that grand?

Oh, wait. No it isn’t. “Funny” isn’t quite right.

“Par for the course.”

That’s what it is.

AGAIN: There’s plenty of REAL things to bag on Obama about, half-wit. Find one, bdapuppet.

He’s a citizen no matter how much or how long you whine, you racist bigot you. And that’s what it is: whining. You birthers are starting to sound like a bunch of pre-schoolers past their nap time.

He’s also violating the Constitution just like your Neocon masters. He can’t make up law any more than Bush could except ILLEGALLY. You know, a REAL illegality. Like Cheney when he committed treason. An ACTUAL crime. Any law derived from either the Patriot Act or the a signing statement is unconstitutional and NO ONE SHOULD OBEY THEM. Period. End of story.

One is a legitimate reason to complain, the other is childish deliberately induced mental retardation that the dumbest segment of the American populace eats up like cotton candy because it re-enforces their ridiculous notions that they are superior to everyone simply because they are white and under- and uneducated.

Because the stupid is who propaganda and propagandists targets. Smart people won’t buy bullshit long term. Dumb people eat it like they like it. Because they do. Thinking for themselves is too much work and it’d keep you from watching that Toby Keith concert on GAC and cleaning your guns while your 13 year old daughter is in the next room getting pregnant from the pizza boy. Single wide or double wide, it’s still noisy and pathetic that people wallow in their own ignorance like it’s a badge of pride. “I’m A Birther, A Moron, and Proud of It!”

AGAIN: Find something real to bitch about. Or keep being the resident object of ridicule for being a slow witted racist tool.

As always, your choice.

I find it very funny that the press can find every woman that Tiger Woods has had an affair with in the last few years, complete with photos, text messages, recorded phone calls, etc. They know not only the cause of the family fight but even know it was a wedge from his golf bag that she was breaking out the windows in the Escalade. Not only that they know which wedge.

but the same press cannot locate Obama’s ORIGINAL birth certificate, or any of the rest of Obama’s records.

Steve Pendlebury has a sarcastic article in Sphere, described as “the next phase in the evolution of AOL News.” He comments on Sarah Palin’s remark, and includes a bunch of quotes, the purpose of which is to diminish Palin and assign her to “the fringe”

In the article is an AOL Poll that asks the question: “Do you think it’s fair to question President Obama’s citizenship?”
http://www.sphere.com/2009/12/04/the-point-sarah-palin-flirts-with-birthers/?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sphere.com%2F2009%2F12%2F04%2Fthe-point-sarah-palin-flirts-with-birthers%2F

this morning 12/6/09, the results were: 67% “Yes” — 33% “No” — with a total vote of a little over 83,000.

You CAN NOT get around the fact that if Hawaii has the ORIGINAL as they claim, why not show that one instead of the one provided on the internet.

Why after all this time is his birth certificate still being called into question. Why is Greg Craig, Whitehouse counsel stepping down and being replaced by Obama’s personal attorney Robert Bauer whom has litigated almost all of the court cases that seek the release of the presidents birth and college records. Major defections are occuring with lawyers in this administration http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30175.html

“After reviewing the moving and opposing papers, the Court finds no factual, legal, or bias grounds upon which to grant the motion for reconsideration. Counsel largely repeats the same arguments made in her briefing and oral argument on the Motion to Dismiss, which is prohibited. To the extent that she does present new argument, it is without merit and does not meet the standard for reconsideration. The Court’s ruling that it lacks jurisdiction, and that Plaintiffs have failed to state aclaim on their remaining causes of action, stands.”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23695421/KEYES-BARNETT-v-OBAMA-101-MINUTES-IN-CHAMBERS-ORDER-Denying-Plaintiffs-Amended-Motion-for-Reconsideration-gov-uscourts-cacd-435591-101-0

It is now on to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

Written Prediction (TM)(c)(R): Dismissal of plaintiffs’ case affirmed.

Unless, of course, Orly fouls up as she did in Cook v. Good, and never manages to get around to filing a brief. Since she broke up with convicted felon disbarred former lawyer Charles Edward Lincoln, the literary style of her filings has changed.

Once JT started Orly and other birhter threads like this one, then the trolls began a new series of hijacks, this time with climate control.

No apology necessary, I didn’t take your comment that way at all. I’ve already said that you convinced me that you and Buddha are correct in your comments about Bdaman. I just think that this is a valid topic which merits it’s own thread – I like it when a post on a birther thread is an Orly update from Vince or a lame theory for him to crush, not Bdaman with 42 consecutive posts on climate change denial. If I’m going to try to answer his ignorance and lies (say a pale imitation of Vince’s job on the birthers), it’s much easier to do it if the topic has its own thread.

I realize that Bdaman is a troll who adds nothing to any discussion, but the hacked e-mails are a legitimate issue with legal implications that people (like Byron) seem to want to discuss. Just because a troll raised a discussion doesn’t mean that the topic is necessarily bad and in this case, I think there are significant and interesting issues to be addressed. Giving the troll an appropriate place to post his lies where people who care (like me) can refute them is just an additional bonus. In any case, I’ve made my request and Professor Turley is free act on it as he wishes (if he sees it at all).

Slarti,
Any time we give this person the credence of discussion we give him power. Ignorance, deception, bigotry and lying are his trademarks and given that he is incapable of rational discussion.

Similar headline circa 1939. Herr Gustav Schweinhundt, eugenics adviser to Adolph Hitler protests his not being allowed to speak to a congressional committee along with human rights activists on why Hitler is pursuing Jews. Same difference, just more pungent knowing its’ bdaman’s quote.

Would it make a difference. He would hijack the thread under a new name such as Observiant. The many reincarnations of Bdaman. At least its not like the Many Loves of Dobie Gillis well maybe he could be a real Maynard.

That’s funny.

Enjoy the ridicule.

It’ll never stop.

If I built a coffee dependent spelling and grammar check, would they come?

I think you’re a fine negative example.

Like I said, you’re humping this all on your own. I’m just pointing out the Freak Show (no offense to freaks).

You feel free to leave if you get tired of people pointing out your a bigoted propaganda puppet.

Because it’s not going to stop. Why? Because you are what you is, bdatroll. So you keep on humpin’ and I’ll keep on pointin’, but you’re no bother at all.

You would probably prefer that JT treat me the way they did Lord Monckton back in April of this year. This is how debate is handled.

UK’s Lord Christopher Monckton, a former science advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, claimed House Democrats have refused to allow him to appear alongside former Vice President Al Gore at a high profile global warming hearing on Friday April 24, 2009 at 10am in Washington. Monckton told Climate Depot that the Democrats rescinded his scheduled joint appearance at the House Energy and Commerce hearing on Friday. Monckton said he was informed that he would not be allowed to testify alongside Gore when his plane landed from England Thursday afternoon.

“The House Democrats don’t want Gore humiliated, so they slammed the door of the Capitol in my face,” Monckton told Climate Depot in an exclusive interview. “They are cowards.”

And I’ll keep doing so as long you keep posting your trash here, you bigot troll.

You left once and were allowed a fairly graceful exit considering the way people like your buddy Jim got shown the door.

To expect mercy twice is a false expectation.

That is a good screen name as it implies loyalty as one would pay close attention to detail.

Of course I could always use double or triple income. But there are very few jobs that permit one to peruse the other income while at work for one master unless of course you work for the Government. Then all bets are off.

The pay is extremley guut and yew dun eve n gots to no how to spill. you just copy and paste

Glad to see you back.

Once identified we are told to use all means necessary to persuade this party to hack the server at the Hawaiin DOH.

It may be are only chance to see the original BC on file before they accidentally dump the original raw data.

I will be back with my regular copy/paste troll commenting after my efforts have been exhausted.

Sincerely,
Bdatroll

yes drill SARgent
cus you told me to drill SARgent.

From the Honolulu Advertise, July 28, 2009: QUOTE

Hawaii officials confirm Obama’s original birth certificate still exists

By Dan Nakaso
Advertiser Staff Writers

Hawai’i’s Health Department confirmed yesterday that it has President Obama’s original Aug. 4, 1961, birth certificate in storage, but the announcement is unlikely to satisfy conspiracy theorists who insist Obama was born in Kenya.

“We don’t destroy vital records,” Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. “That’s our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records.”

The Health Department’s director reiterated yesterday that she has seen Obama’s birth records.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen,” Fukino said in a statement. “I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”

Fukino tried on Oct. 31 to put an end to the belief among so-called “birthers” that Obama was not born in Honolulu’s Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. The birthers insist that Obama was not born in the U.S. and is therefore ineligible to be president.

Despite Fukino’s statement yesterday — and several court rulings and statements by Hawai’i’s Republican governor, Linda Lingle, the issue continued to resonate from Capitol Hill to the blogosphere.

A congressional resolution introduced yesterday by Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawai’i, commemorating the 50th anniversary of Island statehood was temporarily postponed because birthers objected to a clause noting Obama was born in Hawai’i, said Dave Helfert, an Abercrombie spokesman.

The line “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961;” appeared to be construed by birthers as a thinly veiled attempt to get Congress to affirm Obama’s U.S. citizenship, Helfert said.

As the issue came to a vote yesterday, Minnesota Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann rose to object, saying there was not a quorum present.

The House later voted unanimously 378-0 to approve the resolution. Bachmann voted in favor of the resolution.

original form exists

Mainland media has also continued to focus attention on the birthers. CNN’s Lou Dobbs last week demanded Obama’s original birth certificate. That was followed by CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein telling staffers of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that the issue is a “dead” story, according to a Los Angeles Times report.

In an e-mail, according to the Times, Klein wrote that CNN researchers had determined that Obama’s 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawai’i officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 — a claim denied yesterday by Isle health officials.

In 2001, Hawai’i’s paper documents were reproduced in electronic format but “any paper data prior to that still exists,” Health Department spokeswoman Okubo said.

Okubo would not say where Obama’s original birth certificate is, but said “we have backups for all of our backups.”

“Our Certificate of Live Birth is the standard form, which was modeled after national standards that are acceptable by federal agencies and organizations,” Okubo said. “With that form, you can get your passport or your soccer registration or your driver’s license.”

One thing that remains unclear is whether Obama has a copy of the original 1961 Certificate of Live Birth, or if he would even be allowed to see it if he asked.

Hawai’i’s disclosure law (Hawai’i Revised Statutes 338-18) states that “it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part on any such record … ”

The law further states that the Health Department “shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record.”

Those who have “direct and tangible interest” are generally limited to the person named in the record, the spouse, parent, descendant, or personal representative, or by someone who is involved in marital, parental or death litigation involving the named person’s vital record or other legal reason established by a court order, and various official agency or organization representatives, including the state director of health, according to the law.

format changed

The standard “Certification of Live Birth” that Hawai’i health officials now issue — and was posted on Obama’s campaign Web site — has less information than was required on the “Certificate of Live Birth” that Eleanor Nordyke was issued for each of her twin daughters on Aug. 5, 1961.

Nordyke was in labor at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital the same time as Obama’s late mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, Nordyke said. She gave birth to twins the day after Obama was born, Nordyke said, and her daughters later attended Punahou School with Obama.
The modern-day birth certificates issued to anyone seeking their Hawai’i birth records have spaces for the names and races of the parents, as well as information such as the time of birth.

Nordyke’s 1961 birth certificates required much more information, such as the ages, occupations and birthplaces of the babies’ parents.

There was a box to determine whether the mother’s address was “on a Farm or Plantation,” and the signature — but not the name — of the “attendant” was required, as well as boxes to determine whether the attendant was an “M.D.,” “D.O.,” “midwife” or “other.”

Birthers have failed to get state and federal courts in Hawai’i, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, California, Georgia and Mississippi to force Hawai’i officials to produce a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, with many of the courts agreeing with Lingle’s administration that birth records are confidential.

In October, the Hawai’i Supreme Court denied a writ of mandamus on behalf of Internet columnist Andy Martin. The court ruled that Martin did not have a “direct tangible interest” in seeking Obama’s birth certificate.

In December, the U.S. Supreme Court — without comment — declined to hear arguments in another case alleging Obama did not meet the Constitution’s citizenship requirements.

first mention

In November 2008, The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement that ran on Aug. 13, 1961:

“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

The identical announce- ment ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers.

Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals, Okubo said.

Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn’s name, weight and time of birth.

“Take a second and think about that,” wrote Robert Farley of the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times’ Pulitzer Prize winning Web site PoliticFact.com on July 1. “In order to phony those notices up, it would have required the complicity of the state Health Department and two independent newspapers — on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States.” END QUOTE

It was posted on the Retired General thread on July 28, 2009 at 2:30 pm,
http://jonathanturley.org/2009/07/19/retired-major-general-joins-litigation-over-obamas-birth-status/

(The retired general later denied that he had ever joined Orly’s suit, and that she tried to add him without his consent. Just another day in OrlyFantasyLand).

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23402900/COOK-v-GOOD-17-USCA-Order-dismissing-11-Notice-of-Appeal-Gov-uscourts-gamd-77171-17-0

Hawaii officials confirm Obama’s original birth certificate still exists

By Dan Nakaso
Advertiser Staff Writers

…

In November 2008, The Advertiser reported that the first published mention of the future president appeared in a Sunday Advertiser birth announcement that ran on Aug. 13, 1961:

“Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

The identical announcement ran the following day in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Birthers wave off those birth announcements, saying that Obama family members 48 years ago could have phoned in false information to both newspapers.

Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals, Okubo said.

Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn’s name, weight and time of birth.

“Take a second and think about that,” wrote Robert Farley of the St. Petersburg (Fla.) Times’ Pulitzer Prize winning Web site PoliticFact.com on July 1. “In order to phony those notices up, it would have required the complicity of the state Health Department and two independent newspapers — on the off chance this unnamed child might want to one day be president of the United States.” END QUOTE

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii%20officials%20confirm%20Obama’s%20original%20birth%20certificate%20still%20exists?GID=oc4onLOVnbg56pPc2/scNBYxvt8yvewDUvaP6W4SCK4%3D

The lawsuit that launched a thousand posts at the Retired General thread has been officially pronounced dead.

From the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals:

“Pursuant to the 11th Cir.R.42-2(c), this appeal is dismissed for want of prosecution because the appellant failed to file brief and record excerpts within the time fixed by the rules.”

It looks like Orly led Major Stefan Cook out onto a long, long limb — and then chopped the tree down. She never filed a brief, and never filed the records.

squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak

I had already pointed out Harriet Miers to Bdaman, thank you for adding Meese and Kennedy – not that it will do any good since Bdaman is incapable of reading anyone’s posts (at least there’s no evidence of it so far). My guess is that he’s an like an idiot-savant without the savant part. He’s never posted any ideas of his own here, just tired republican talking points and inane links, ad infinitum. The rest of us, however, enjoy seeing him slapped down, even if he isn’t smart enough to realize it. Nice job.

Byron,

Just out of curiosity, why do you think that Marx is wrong now? (Personally, I think that his writing is a mix of good ideas and tragic mistakes – the trick is figuring out which is which.) I respect your attempt to encourage Bdaman to use his mind and although I doubt you will be successful, I wish you luck.

Bdaman,

I just left you an opening – if you use your mind and engage in debate you can prove me wrong! (A considered response to my post on the other thread about science, for instance) And maybe I’ll give you a cookie. I’m not holding my breath, though.

Have you heard of Harriet Myers, Edwin Meese and lets not even mention Bobby Kennedy who of course was not JFK’s personal attorney but even closer. ASSHAT!

Star Parker is another person to be admired. What a story she has. Star Parker for President!

I don’t think Mike S would call me a racist if I disagreed with him, in fact he and I disagree on economics quite a good deal and he doesn’t call me a racist.

He would certainly tell me why he disagrees with me and do it in a thoughtful way and might get a dig or 2 in. But what the hell I have been able to learn more about why I believe what I believe by being challenged than by having someone agree with me.

Before this web site-Marx wrong. Why is he wrong? Because Marx is a communist. So why is communism wrong? Because Marx wrote it.

I put a little more thought into things now. You should try it.

He must of been very uncomfortable, in the back of his mind I bet he wished he had his hood so the other members of the nation wouldn’t know it was really him.

Jump to the 4:15 mark of the video

Bdaman
1, November 27, 2009 at 8:30 am

Trust me if you disagree your a racist.

He likes you he really really like you.

Fulfillment of the prophecies

There is quite a bit of dissent within the black intellectual community about the wisdom of automatically voting for the democrat candidate.

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/09/some-blacks-now-have-doubts-about-obama/

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/09/why-were-talking-about-race-again/

One must look to Obama’s stance on the school voucher program on how to become a black intellect in America.