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	<title>Comments on: One Thumb Down, Very Down:  Vatican Says New Moon is a Must Miss</title>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92891</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BIL, Paxton once said in an interview that the day of shooting the roadhouse scene his sinus&#039; were giving him trouble so he was wired on de-congestants... uh, huh, right. LOL 

It&#039;s an overlooked gem because that year there were two vampire movies released, Near Dark and The Lost Boys. THB&#039;s won the boxoffice and ND became a cult favorite. The plot resolved badly (a transfusion, srsly?) but the vampires were outstanding.
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Vince, so did I. I just took a guess you would based on your avatar :-)

Oh yea, Lottakatz is a pop culture fan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BIL, Paxton once said in an interview that the day of shooting the roadhouse scene his sinus&#8217; were giving him trouble so he was wired on de-congestants&#8230; uh, huh, right. LOL </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an overlooked gem because that year there were two vampire movies released, Near Dark and The Lost Boys. THB&#8217;s won the boxoffice and ND became a cult favorite. The plot resolved badly (a transfusion, srsly?) but the vampires were outstanding.<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>Vince, so did I. I just took a guess you would based on your avatar <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh yea, Lottakatz is a pop culture fan.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Treacy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Treacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lottakatz, loved the new Trek.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lottakatz, loved the new Trek.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lotta,

Near Dark is an often overlooked gem.  How many vampire movies would have the guts to use a line like Bill Paxton&#039;s &quot;I hate &#039;em when they ain&#039;t shaved.&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lotta,</p>
<p>Near Dark is an often overlooked gem.  How many vampire movies would have the guts to use a line like Bill Paxton&#8217;s &#8220;I hate &#8216;em when they ain&#8217;t shaved.&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: HeadElfMaster</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HeadElfMaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah ha. It worked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah ha. It worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pope suffers.  Sometimes his handmade shoes pinch a little.  It is for the greater glory so he does not complain!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pope suffers.  Sometimes his handmade shoes pinch a little.  It is for the greater glory so he does not complain!</p>
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		<title>By: headelfmaster</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[headelfmaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have taken this as a gravatar and had to use a new handle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have taken this as a gravatar and had to use a new handle.</p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Pontifical Council for Culture warns Catholics that the film offers a “moral void more dangerous than any deviant message.” 

So is this latest planned edict to Catholic hospitals and medical facilities:

&quot;Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”
...
&quot;Incredibly, suffering is one of the selling points in the Catholic Bishops’ directive. “It’s quite specific about the role of suffering in Christian dogma,” Coombs Lee explained. “It says that suffering is redemptive, that it’s part of Christ’s passion. &quot;

http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/24/catholic-bishops-enact-plan-for-300000-terri-schiavos/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pontifical Council for Culture warns Catholics that the film offers a “moral void more dangerous than any deviant message.” </p>
<p>So is this latest planned edict to Catholic hospitals and medical facilities:</p>
<p>&#8220;Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Incredibly, suffering is one of the selling points in the Catholic Bishops’ directive. “It’s quite specific about the role of suffering in Christian dogma,” Coombs Lee explained. “It says that suffering is redemptive, that it’s part of Christ’s passion. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/24/catholic-bishops-enact-plan-for-300000-terri-schiavos/" rel="nofollow">http://news.firedoglake.com/2009/11/24/catholic-bishops-enact-plan-for-300000-terri-schiavos/</a></p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Vince. How&#039;d you like the new ST? I think it was great, it went back to the basics and opened up a whole new timeline so the franchise never has to die  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Vince. How&#8217;d you like the new ST? I think it was great, it went back to the basics and opened up a whole new timeline so the franchise never has to die  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vince Treacy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92668</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Treacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jill, glad to be of assistance.

amunre, you have plenty of company.

lottakatz, Dr. Who returns to BBC America in December, featuring &quot;The Waters of Mars&quot; and other new shows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill, glad to be of assistance.</p>
<p>amunre, you have plenty of company.</p>
<p>lottakatz, Dr. Who returns to BBC America in December, featuring &#8220;The Waters of Mars&#8221; and other new shows.</p>
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		<title>By: lottakatz</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92655</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lottakatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing &quot;Now who am I again? How does one digress if they are unstuck in time?&quot;
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But are you a singularity in time like Captain Jack Harkness (of Torchwood, Children of Earth, and Dr. Who fame.)? If so, call 1.888.TRCHWOD, Capt&#039; Jack is looking for a new friend. 

+++++++++

Gyges   &quot;Remember folks: every time you talk about a sparkly vampire, Bram Stoker impales a kitten.&quot;
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As does Kathryn Bigelow, the director of Near Dark. Some real baaaaaaaaad vampires in that movie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddha Is Laughing &#8220;Now who am I again? How does one digress if they are unstuck in time?&#8221;<br />
&#8211;<br />
But are you a singularity in time like Captain Jack Harkness (of Torchwood, Children of Earth, and Dr. Who fame.)? If so, call 1.888.TRCHWOD, Capt&#8217; Jack is looking for a new friend. </p>
<p>+++++++++</p>
<p>Gyges   &#8220;Remember folks: every time you talk about a sparkly vampire, Bram Stoker impales a kitten.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;<br />
As does Kathryn Bigelow, the director of Near Dark. Some real baaaaaaaaad vampires in that movie.</p>
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		<title>By: amunre</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amunre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was in kindergarden Sister Gerlinda taught us only Catholics went to heaven.  When I was in 6th grade Sister Elizabeth taught us that going to a Protestants wedding was a mortal sin.  When I was in high school Sister Ildephonse told us that we should only date other Catholic kids because mixed marriages were bad...When I went to college my Jesuit proffs. taught us that all the above was bullshit.....

In my 63 years I have heard more religious bs than I care to think about....

Sorry just had to vent]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in kindergarden Sister Gerlinda taught us only Catholics went to heaven.  When I was in 6th grade Sister Elizabeth taught us that going to a Protestants wedding was a mortal sin.  When I was in high school Sister Ildephonse told us that we should only date other Catholic kids because mixed marriages were bad&#8230;When I went to college my Jesuit proffs. taught us that all the above was bullshit&#8230;..</p>
<p>In my 63 years I have heard more religious bs than I care to think about&#8230;.</p>
<p>Sorry just had to vent</p>
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		<title>By: Gyges</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gyges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Mike on this one. 

 Remember folks: every time you talk about a sparkly vampire, Bram Stoker impales a kitten.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Mike on this one. </p>
<p> Remember folks: every time you talk about a sparkly vampire, Bram Stoker impales a kitten.</p>
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		<title>By: pardon me?</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pardon me?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the film, the Volturi are an ancient Italian vampire coven. Getting a little too close to home, eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVyAXoDHzqo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the film, the Volturi are an ancient Italian vampire coven. Getting a little too close to home, eh?<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/LVyAXoDHzqo/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Vince.  That info has made my day!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Vince.  That info has made my day!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92554</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a matter of confession I will not see either the New moon movie, nor did I see its&#039; predecessor. Not my cup of tea. However, what is distressing is that the RCC is again back to the same censorship stance that they had fifty years ago and that was so successful back then in harming films and books that they didn&#039;t like. Pope Benedict seems to me to be a throwback to all that has been bad about the RCC in its&#039; history and indeed was their Chief of the Inquisition (in disguised form) prior to his assumption of Popehood. It is true that you cannot take the Hitler Youth of the boy out of the religious faith of the man. Not being Catholic this only affects me tangentially, but knowing many wonderful people through the years who believed in the RCC, I am sad for them that this man and his ilk have regained power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of confession I will not see either the New moon movie, nor did I see its&#8217; predecessor. Not my cup of tea. However, what is distressing is that the RCC is again back to the same censorship stance that they had fifty years ago and that was so successful back then in harming films and books that they didn&#8217;t like. Pope Benedict seems to me to be a throwback to all that has been bad about the RCC in its&#8217; history and indeed was their Chief of the Inquisition (in disguised form) prior to his assumption of Popehood. It is true that you cannot take the Hitler Youth of the boy out of the religious faith of the man. Not being Catholic this only affects me tangentially, but knowing many wonderful people through the years who believed in the RCC, I am sad for them that this man and his ilk have regained power.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Treacy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince Treacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JT, mark that calendar.  The date, Dec. 8th, for the annual pledge to the Legion of Decency to boycott all condemned movies and the theaters that show them is fast approaching....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Legion_of_Decency]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JT, mark that calendar.  The date, Dec. 8th, for the annual pledge to the Legion of Decency to boycott all condemned movies and the theaters that show them is fast approaching&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Legion_of_Decency" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Legion_of_Decency</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blouise</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blouise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whew, I was raised as an old-fashioned Congregationalist for which I think I&#039;ll thank my long buried parents once again for their choice in denominations charged with protecting &quot;The Word&quot;. 

I suggest there is nothing that evil loves more than to corrupt an innocent, young child thus giving him/her a fear of church for the rest of their lives ... a foolproof plan to keep that child from loving or trusting God. 

Considering the depth and width of pedophilia within the Catholic Church&#039;s priesthood resulting in an epidemic of child-abuse for decades, it is amazing that any priest, bishop, cardinal, or pope would have the chutzpah to claim an ability to recognize evil in anything. 

Matthew 7:3 might help them in their conflict with superciliousness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew, I was raised as an old-fashioned Congregationalist for which I think I&#8217;ll thank my long buried parents once again for their choice in denominations charged with protecting &#8220;The Word&#8221;. </p>
<p>I suggest there is nothing that evil loves more than to corrupt an innocent, young child thus giving him/her a fear of church for the rest of their lives &#8230; a foolproof plan to keep that child from loving or trusting God. </p>
<p>Considering the depth and width of pedophilia within the Catholic Church&#8217;s priesthood resulting in an epidemic of child-abuse for decades, it is amazing that any priest, bishop, cardinal, or pope would have the chutzpah to claim an ability to recognize evil in anything. </p>
<p>Matthew 7:3 might help them in their conflict with superciliousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddha Is Laughing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buddha Is Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only problem with that AY is I am bending when not outright violating several laws of space-time on a fairly regular basis.  I could be anywhen.  Not to mention where.  Now who am I again?  How does one digress if they are unstuck in time?

So.  The Spanish Inquisition.

The Kennedy doesn&#039;t get the party favors and now you&#039;re damning souls for seeing a film?

I didn&#039;t realize they made crack in sacrament flavor, but you boys should really lay off the pipe.  And if you&#039;re going to get upset because vampires are horning in on your action, keep in mind that zombies and Frankenstein&#039;s Monster rose from the dead and terrorized the villagers too.  If you use insane logic, try to make it at least internally consistent.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with that AY is I am bending when not outright violating several laws of space-time on a fairly regular basis.  I could be anywhen.  Not to mention where.  Now who am I again?  How does one digress if they are unstuck in time?</p>
<p>So.  The Spanish Inquisition.</p>
<p>The Kennedy doesn&#8217;t get the party favors and now you&#8217;re damning souls for seeing a film?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realize they made crack in sacrament flavor, but you boys should really lay off the pipe.  And if you&#8217;re going to get upset because vampires are horning in on your action, keep in mind that zombies and Frankenstein&#8217;s Monster rose from the dead and terrorized the villagers too.  If you use insane logic, try to make it at least internally consistent.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jill,

Just think Buddha and I have been accused of being the same person because we posted at the same time as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill,</p>
<p>Just think Buddha and I have been accused of being the same person because we posted at the same time as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Church is just mad at the competition!  The book was written by a Mormon and has a little Mormon theology in it.  Make your own movie--The Pope in the Woods, (what goes out in the woods, stays in the woods!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Church is just mad at the competition!  The book was written by a Mormon and has a little Mormon theology in it.  Make your own movie&#8211;The Pope in the Woods, (what goes out in the woods, stays in the woods!).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymously Yours</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2009/11/24/one-thumb-down-very-down-new-moon-is-a-must-miss/#comment-92510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymously Yours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well just take your crucifix, rosary, garlic. Then wait for the head too spin and the pea soup to flail. If none of that happens then just enjoy yourself. 

Patrick Kennedy are you going to see this movie?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well just take your crucifix, rosary, garlic. Then wait for the head too spin and the pea soup to flail. If none of that happens then just enjoy yourself. </p>
<p>Patrick Kennedy are you going to see this movie?</p>
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