Sisters Given Short Jail Sentences After One Fatally Stabs Boyfriend in Groin and the Other Prevents People From Calling Ambulance

In light of the helicopter case today, I am a bit confused about the sentencing guidelines used by our cousins in England. In Manchester, Samantha Brown, 20, and her sister Toni Brown, 24, were sentenced in a horrific murder of Brown’s boyfriend and received brief jail sentences.


Brown (right) and her boyfriend had been at her sister’s house drinking when the boyfriend reportedly caught Brown in a intimate moment with another woman. When he accused her of being a lesbian, she reportedly grabbed a kitchen knife and stabbed him in the groin. When she fled the scene, Darvill allegedly begged Brown to call for a ambulance and she refused. She then stopped another woman from calling an ambulance. When the other woman called Darvill’s family, Brown again refused their pleas for her to give them the address for an ambulance or to call one herself.
After another hour, an ambulance was finally called but the man died from loss of blood.

Brown later said that she refused to call an ambulance for the dying man because she did not want the ambulance to wake her son who was sleeping upstairs.

Toni Brown was sentenced to just four years and Samantha Brown was jailed for just five years for the knife attack.

We have previously discussed criminal liability for people who fail to call police. In the United States, you cannot be charged for the failure to call police as a witness. However, Toni Brown crossed the line, even in the states, by actively barring others from calling an ambulance and her involvement in the crime which occurred on her premises. This is not a case involving the failure to meet the standards of a Good Samaritan but a failure to meet the standards of a human being.

This sentence seems shockingly out of proportion to the crime. These women warranted long jail sentences for crimes that should have shocked the conscience of the court.

Source: MSN

61 thoughts on “Sisters Given Short Jail Sentences After One Fatally Stabs Boyfriend in Groin and the Other Prevents People From Calling Ambulance

  1. KS,

    Thank you for the correction. I was almost certain you didn’t mean the vermin….in this case as a lot it hard to tell which is which and who the real victim is….

  2. No, it depends on how you like your groin – perforated or unperforated!

    I hate these kinds of stories in the news because so often they fail to tell the whole story & try to sensationalize the facts. Were there other details that the paper left out that might explain this sentence? Its hard to imagine what those would be but not any harder than imagining a judge going this lightly on such apparent inhumanity.

  3. BTW – Gingerbaker – is that an occupation or are yo a fan of Ginger Baker’s Air Force? Didn’t know there were any people who remember him.

  4. she probably received a light sentence because she is a lesbian and thus a member of a protected class. she probably told the judge her feelings were hurt because her boyfriend was anti-gay.

  5. frankdawg said:

    “BTW – Gingerbaker – is that an occupation or are yo a fan of Ginger Baker’s Air Force? Didn’t know there were any people who remember him.”

    My stepfather likes to bake ginger cheesecake, I play drums, and I do admire Ginger Baker as drummer – among many others. I can now also type “Gingerbaker” really fast, so that is a real consideration. :)

    PS – do you know GB’s song about making a cup of tea ( “T.U.S.A.” from “Sunrise on the Sufferbus” (Ginger Baker and Masters of Reality)? Good clean fun.

  6. For someone going to prison for the 1st time, 4-5 years is a very difficult sentence. It’s a big chunk out of a young woman’s life. Perhaps the judge thought this would be enough to teach them a lesson. Perhaps he thought that a longer sentence would have negative effects, and that when they got out, they’d be more dangerous than when they went in. The act seems to have been basically impulsive, perhaps the judge was looking ahead, to the time they’d be released. Prison rarely makes anyone a better person, and in Europe, they seem to be more interested in rehabilitation than punishment. Since about 70% of our prisoners re-offend, and since we have such a large prison population, perhaps we could learn something from the European approach.
    As emotionally satisfying as severe punishment might be, is it really the best way to deal with people who commit a single, impulsive, violent act?
    bigkoala@verizon.net

  7. Stan:

    Stabing the man may have been impulsive but allowing him to bleed to death was the act of someone who needs to be put away.
    That was murder and those 2 women are very disturbed individuals.

  8. Ginger – yeah, I never got that song. I haven’t heard them in years everything I had was on 8 -track! but dang that guy could play.

  9. We don’t know what mitigating factors influenced the sentence. Perhaps there was evidence that immediately prior to the attack, the decedent had proposed a threesome.

  10. Stan:

    maybe I should have said whacked out anti-social narcissists.
    What they did was the depth of depravity, they watched a human being bleed to death and taunted him and his family while he lay dying.

  11. Ay Quit making trouble or I will summons bdaman to come on and attack you again. lol My daughter just got back from Palo Alto and decided it was okay to be from Austin but not Dallas. I agree. She wants to change her cell phone number.

  12. Anonymously Yours
    1, August 3, 2010 at 6:52 pm
    Blouise,

    How are ya doing today?

    Where is Swarthmore mom and her nemesis…..

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    Just returned from a lovely boating trip on the lake … it’s still so hot here that being on the water offers a bit of relief … of course it smells of dead fish … nobody ever talks about that though

    And how are you?

    Swmon mentioned bdaman …I thought I read something TraderB asked him about liking Fla … it gave me the impression he was taking a trip to Fla and I was wondering why anyone would purposely visit Fla in the summer?

  13. AY,

    Before I went down to the dock I was arguing with somebody named Bob but now I can’t remember what thread it was on so I have no idea if our argument is still going on

    While you skip from thread to thread in your elf shoes … if you find it please come back and tell me

    I have to go reset the sprinkler system timer for later this evening … sometimes I set it to turn on after dark just to give the late night walkers a thrill.

  14. Blouise,

    Try the Australian Thread..if not there then…I don’t know…maybe the Rabbit knows…or Just ask Alice when she’s 10 Feet Tall……

    Why would anyone visit Florida in August..hmm, I have asked myself that question every year since 2000. I don’t know…oh yeah…its hot….its….not as crowded thats a first. Texas where I am at was 113 with the heat index. I again worked outside and am officially a Red Neck not that you couldn’t tell to begin with…

    I suppose another reason that Florida is better than Lake Erie…is it does not smell of dead fish…at least not the part I know….then again, I have heard from people when I owned property in NY that Erie was the Ass Hole of the Great Lakes…did they ever figure out if St. Lawrence was in or out?

    I suppose that liking to sprinkle night walkers is fun especially if you activate on motion….that would be mean…I don’t suppose you know anybody that intentionally splashes folks with water from the street to sidewalk to see how many people they can spray or is that to see how far the water goes….I heard of a case once upon a time and it involved a person intentionally getting off of the road to go through a parking lot and splashing someone. The person that was splashed never filed a report so the cop filed it under “Public Safety.” It turned out to be a bull shit charge…it was dismissed. I did laugh when I first read the case….It was funny..because it did not happen to me….other than that. oh well my day is pretty much the same….

    Hey how many toothpicks did you pick up last night. Did you drink the Blood of the vine….?

    You have friends that are cops…I used to practice criminal defense and I was just as much as an asswipe as the cop was. So, I got a reputation with the police, they were looking for me and I was batting a lot of balls in the courtroom. The bad ones mainly…The police force was about 147 at the time…they knew that I played as rough and I knew who the dirty ones were, because of the nature of my clients business. Lets just say that if a client called I was there for them, regardless if they could pay or not..I usually got it back in referrals. So the race was on. I once got stopped for speeding and I was cited for 11 civil-citations later I was allowed to proceed. Something about staying in the vehicle for officer safety, I said bullshit and got out, the K-9 unit was called after that. Well the next part of that is a whole book…

    If you think I am half witted with the written word..well my momma always said that I could either have a silver tongue or a golden one…I opted for the forked one and life has been good so far…..

    So when you come to Texas you’ll know more…

  15. Yep … got Byron’s message … he has come to the defense of the fair maiden (not me, figure of speech)… it’s fun

    I have now cornered the market on toothpicks, but didn’t get up till after noon which could be blamed on the sangria if I were not willing to accept responsibility …

    I have a very good friend who is a defense atty. but he and the cops do not get along … no, that’s incorrect, he and the cops do get along … it’s those who manage the cops, let’s say Lieutenant and above … there is real animosity present. He’s always very busy and he has some of the very best stories. He has that very tough exterior which often bleeds over into his off the job activities … that adversarial confrontation stance that is necessary on the job … I have gone to watch him several times in court as it is interesting to listen as he “turns a phrase” … so to speak … when he isn’t being tough, he’s gentle as a kitten, especially with kids.

    Are you kidding … going through the parking lot to splash someone is a crime? My brothers used to do that all the time. They are all gone now … maybe it was the water karma god …

  16. AY

    Reread my post and thought perhaps I had confused a portion … Byron has not come to my defense (even though I am the fairest of fair maidens) but to the defense of Bob (who I suspect is not a fair maiden) … ie figure of speech

    Where is Buddha? I thought he was kidding when he said something about spider bites … he’s okay isn’t he?

  17. Well you did not answer any of the others, oh well.

    As to Buddha, I have not heard from him. I have heard of people eating spiders. To each his own. I am wondering how Spindell is doing. And you after your nip of Sangria, the Blood of the Vine….

  18. Anonymously Yours
    1, August 3, 2010 at 10:45 pm
    Well you did not answer any of the others, oh well.
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    I’m sorry dear … was that to me …. what others?

  19. Before I crawl back into bed, I thought I should say that rumors of my spider eating are greatly exaggerated. I was indeed bitten by a brown recluse. 2nd time for me too. At least it didn’t try to eat me. I’ll be back when I feel up to it.

  20. Hey … I went back to your post … isn’t a K9 unit a dog … why would they call a dog … and you can’t be half witted with words and still write effective briefs … I suspect you have some very good stories in you

  21. Take care Buddah. I hope you have been to the doctor to get some antibiotics. A bite by a brown recluse is a serious matter..

  22. eat more red meat. Like a steak, rare, just tell em to slap it on the ass, knock its horns on and place it on your plate.

    I am glad you are back. I wanna see you beat Bdaman at a pool hall….I really do. Maybe even at a game of 9ball….

  23. Swmom,
    Funny you should mention Mike S as I was thinking of him when I was thinking of Buddha

    Of course when AY was gone for a while there (later he said in was in a cabin in Wis.) … I asked you about him … strange how one worries about people one doesn’t really know personally … kind of like ol’ time correspondence pen pals

  24. Buddha Is Laughing
    1, August 3, 2010 at 11:26 pm
    Before I crawl back into bed, I thought I should say that rumors of my spider eating are greatly exaggerated. I was indeed bitten by a brown recluse. 2nd time for me too. At least it didn’t try to eat me. I’ll be back when I feel up to it.

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    Oh my god … please take care of yourself …

    Red meat!!??

    There is too much oxygen where you live … (that’s on one of the other threads) … big insects etc.

  25. Swarthmore mom
    1, August 3, 2010 at 11:37 pm
    I know what you mean Blouise. AY is the only person on here that I have actually seen in person.

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    Were you in charge of the K-9 Unit :)

  26. Blouise,

    Is St Lawrence in or out as a Great Lake?

    Buddha,

    I meant Knock it’s horns OFF.

    Blouise,

    Oxygen, if it was really 215 just imagine how light headed the blonds really would be…..

  27. Anonymously Yours
    1, August 3, 2010 at 11:53 pm
    Blouise,

    Is St Lawrence in or out as a Great Lake?

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    Oh great … sure, make me go back to high school … the river empties the Great Lakes into the Atlantic (unless the Corp of Engineers has been messing around again) … but, in all honesty, I wouldn’t swim in Lake Erie or eat anything caught there … “they” say it has been cleaned up but, come on … “they” lie a lot.

    And … when one reaches a certain age … and if one has a competent hairdresser … one is always talked into going blond …… don’t ask me why … my hairdresser is from Brazil and I have trouble understanding everything he says

    I have to go into the city tomorrow (Cleveland) to give a deposition. I witnessed an accident over a year ago and I guess someone is bringing a lawsuit against someone else. I was asked to report at such and such a time at the law offices to tell my tale. I wonder how surprised they’ll be when I pull out my papers. I went home after the event and wrote down everything that happened, signed and dated it. I did that because I didn’t know if I would be called as a witness in a trial of some kind. Never was but I’ll report with papers in hand to refresh my memory.

  28. … the seaway is sometimes part of the river and sometimes not .. ie channels, locks etc … but that is all I know

  29. Yeah, I know about the competent hair dresser thingy….I am really reddish blond, but my hair dresser puts emphasis on graying the edges and throw throws the right amount of gray strands to make it appear evenly suited. All for 9 to 13 dollars, wherever I can find a deal….

    Bryon is such a good person he placed the tag for you to click and go. I just guess that I where I saw you and bob esq exchanging ideals….so call it ranting other say fighting.

    Buddha,

    I was apparently tired and being oppositional defiant with knock on, knock off…

  30. I think its obvious why these two were given such light sentences. Its because they are white females(the most privileged spoiled group in the west) and their crime was against a male.

    Thiers no way in hell a man would be given such a light sentence had he stapped a woman in her vagina and let her bleed to death.

    I think this case is a good thing to bring up the next time women try to claim they are “oppressed” in the west.

  31. @stan kohls would you have so much sympathy for the criminal if it had been a man that killed a woman.

    “It’s a big chunk out of a young woman’s life”

    Would u be saying that “Its a big chunk out of a young mans life” after he killed a woman.

    Of course not, but your the typical western protect the precious female at all cost male. Your disgusting chivalry isnt welcome, why dont u try telling the family of the young man that the precious female shouldnt get a heavy sentence because “its a big chunk out of her life”.

    I swear guys like u disgust me, take that chivalry somewhere else.

  32. Blouise,

    Did you tell me to stick a sock in it? Well where?

    I was not aware that they still teach in High School. You mean they can? Since when, I thought it was preparation for the standardized testing…..

  33. Dear Fools

    I don’t have a criminal record, but as part of an extortionist and criminal scheme USDOJ imprisoned me without criminal charges in county jails for 5 months.

    I met a gal there who was 24 and weighed 105. She said she had a 250 lb boyfriend, an ex marine. They were drinking and she was being dramatic so she slapped his face. The neighbors called the cops. The boyfriend answered the door and the cops asked him why his face was red. He said she had hit him. They arrested her and the d.a. prosecuted her for slapping her boyfriend. She took a plea for probation. Then she missed her probation meetings because she was too embarrassed to tell her boss she was on probation so she got 6 months in jail.

  34. My suggestion that long imprisonment may not be our best response to this terrible crime has nothing to do with the perpetrators being female. Having spent some time in jail myself many yrs. ago, I don’t think jail is a very effective means of changing criminal behavior. Many people simply learn how to be better criminals in jail, many become more angry and bitter, many make contact with more experienced and sophisticated criminals while imprisoned, and pursue these contacts when they’re released. Statistics show over 70% of those imprisoned re-offend upon release, frequently because they’re unable to find work. Many criminals with no history of violence learn to be violent in prison. Jamming prisoners together in overcrowded prisons has not proven to be a great idea. And it’s pretty expensive.
    Many European countries have had success with brief periods of imprisonment, which include vocational training, family contact, therapy, victim restitution, etc. American prisons have little of this, once an offender becomes an adult.
    From what I’ve read of this crime, it was an impulsive act, with no premeditation. These sisters don’t seem to have a history of violence or criminal activity, which was probably the reason for the relatively light sentence. Just because they did something terrible, does that mean our best response is to do something terrible to them?
    This is not a moral issue for me, strictly existential: what is the best way to ensure they don’t do something like this again, short of killing them or imprisoning them for the rest of their lives?
    Revenge may be emotionally satisfying, but it’s rarely effective.
    bigkoala@verizon.net

  35. Stan,

    “Revenge may be emotionally satisfying, but it’s rarely effective.”

    Unfortunately it’s not only a function of law (punishment as a replacement for personal revenge), it’s also a component of human psychology. A reflection of tribalism leftover from our days on the Savannah. Legal punishments must not only satisfy the function of operating as a deterrent to criminals, but they must provide adequate revenge to discourage the “self help” option of vigilantism.

    That being said, I do not disagree with where your statement is coming from. The American penal system is generally a miserable failure and for a variety of reasons – not the least of which is inequity in sentencing. For some crimes, sending convicts to prison for long terms only accomplishes one thing: it teaches them how to be better (and usually more violent) criminals.

    Example: if a bank robber stole billions of dollars from one bank, they’d go to prison forever. If a bank or financial institution steals billions of dollars from millions of people, they not only get bailed out when their Ponzi scheme collapses, their criminally culpable management gets paid bonuses with tax payer dollars.

  36. Anonymously Yours
    1, August 4, 2010 at 6:02 pm
    Blouise,

    Did you tell me to stick a sock in it? Well where?

    I was not aware that they still teach in High School. You mean they can? Since when, I thought it was preparation for the standardized testing…..

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    Never ,,, ever ,,, would I tell you to stick a sock in it … I was expressing an opinion of another post

    When I was in high school, they taught but that was so long ago … perhaps they have forgotten how …

  37. Anonymously Yours
    1, August 4, 2010 at 10:39 pm
    Blouise,

    No Problem…If I had a problem, I think I could say so…

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    And then I’d have to tell you to put a sock in it …

  38. stan kohls

    Unfortunately we have this thing in the west that says if u commit a crime then u go to jail = justice. Imagine the family of the guy that finds out that the two evil sisters that killed him will be given only 5 years in prison especially considering they had an hour to call the ambulance for him but instead chose to watch him bleed to death. Imagine how u would feel, srry but if people in this country could commit crime and “get away with it” as long as its their first offense then the US would be in even worse shape than its in now.

    Also here is the University of Georgia link that confirms gender being the most important factor in whether someone is going to jail and how long they stay in jail.

    http://www.terry.uga.edu/~mustard/sentencing.pdf

    basically(as ive already said) if your a female then for some reason your sentence is a lot lighter than if ur male.

    Also this science daily article
    “Defendant’s Gender Affects Length of Sentence”

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100525090554.htm

    For all of those who are interested.

  39. @kay sieverding
    I dont exactly know why u telling me this, I guess your trying to prove to me that females dont get preferential treatement when it comes to crime if so then I suggest u read the two links that I posted in my previous comment.

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