Exactly how stupid is this? Gay rights leaders and supporters are invited to the White House for a party and some take the time to flip off Ronald Reagan’s portrait, take a picture of the act, and then release the picture to third parties. It is now the rage on the Internet from Drudge to Yahoo to dozens of conservative sites — giving opponents of both Obama and gay rights the perfect photo foil to use against them. It is a disgraceful and contemptible display that is being used to paint an entire movement in the worst possible light. (UPDATE: The White House has rebuked the activists for their actions.)
The disrespectful act occurred at the White House’s first-ever gay pride reception. Philadelphia Gay News publisher Mark Segal (center) is shown opting for a simple (and non-problematic) thumbs up. According to the report below, the man on the left is Matthew “Matty” Hart, the national director of public engagement at Solutions for Progress, and the woman on the right is photographer Zoe Strauss.
Even without releasing the photos to third parties, it is remarkably uncivil and contemptible to flip the bird inside of the White House. No matter what one’s political affiliation or feelings toward Reagan or Bush, this is a revered place and your are a guest in this house. Worse yet, Obama and the gay rights movement are likely to be painted with this obnoxious conduct.
Source: Blaze
There is a right time and right place for everything you might want to say.
This was neither.
[sarcasm] Pure genius! [/sarcasm]
Exactly how stupid is this?
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As stupid as it gets.
Even without releasing the photos to third parties, it is remarkably uncivil and contemptible to flip the bird inside of the White House. No matter what one’s political affiliation or feelings toward Reagan or Bush, this is a revered place and your are a guest in this house.
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I never would have known about this if it weren’t for this blog.
What is worse?, the initial stupidity in the over exuberant act or the spreading of the knowledge so that the worst case scenario can come to fruition?
Inquiring minds and all…..
Three gays do not a movement make.
Especially three politically clueless gays.
Really, how asinine is this uproar?
We see the swinging door and the front door opened wide each day to lobbyists, and the whole list of riff-raff who scorn this nation and it’s people—-do we protest every day? Do we protest at all. (Somebody will respond to that challenge.)
No, we don’t I feel, not as much as we should do.
Now, does political wiseness compensate for evil acts or intents?
Seems so.
Not to me.
Just because your gay doesn’t mean you can’t do stupid things..and TWO people do not a movement make.
Maybe, I forgot….but don’t these people work for US……if there was a picture of Castro, Hitler, Chavez would we have this type of reaction….. Probably not….. What if it was Carters picture…. Would the GOP complain?….. Not a chance….. I saw a bumper sticker on a Chevy older model the other day…..It had Obamas picture on it…. The question was, does this face make my ass look fat……
The Whitehouse is a publically owned building… I thought…. Not a house of worship……I probably wouldn’t do it today…. But there was a time when Bush came on TV I’d give him the all due respect salute…..with the index and the finger next to my little one arched back ….. Just saying….
Those presidents all deserve the finger and I don’t think anyone owes them respect of any kind. Authority should earn respect. It’s unhealthy to grant it to people by virtue of their office.
I do find it revelatory that none of the guest did something truly valuable with their time in the WH. Why not a protest on behalf of Bradley Manning? Why not speak against the wars of empire? Why not confront the financial criminals for hire of their host?
Of course, doing those things would have required courage and intellectual honesty. So there, is my answer.
Who knew…I sure didn’t. I checked out the source and it belongs to: TheBlaze is a conservative news and opinion website owned by American media personality and former Fox News host Glenn Beck’s Mercury Radio Arts.
I knew something was wrong the minute I clicked on the site and a trillion ads popped up and my puter slowed like a sick rabbit…
I question the veracity of this story.
Jill,
I think you mistake respect for the forum with respect for the Presidents. The White House is our house, not theirs. We only let them live in it on a four year renewable lease/easement. I’d gladly give any of our last four President’s the finger to their face and that wouldn’t even compare to the verbal lashing. I just wouldn’t do it at the White House.
So they did it on the “West Wing” set. Who’da thought it. Right next door to the Apollo moon set!
The jpegs are so blurry and out of focus one could make the case they are bad Photoshopping. And Drudge Report is an entirely impeachable source. The Weekly World News is far more reliable.
Actually, now that Photoshopping and the sources of this story have been mentioned . . . take a closer look at the photo in the center allegedly of Mark Segal.
Doesn’t his right arm look suspiciously disproportionate?
Hmmmm.
bt if they did act stupid….I’m sure I wouldn’t be throwng any stones….
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950615&slug=2126577
Rubber-Glove Reception For Gays At White House — Administration Embarrassed By Incident
By Thomas Farragher
Knight-Ridder Newspapers
WASHINGTON – In a snafu rich with symbolism, gay and lesbian politicians and lawmakers who trooped into the White House this week for unprecedented talks were detained outside the executive mansion while security guards found and then donned blue rubber gloves.
I like this version of the story the best:
http://wonkette.com/476227/fox-nations-latest-successful-trolling-effort#more-476227
It’s Friday, should we allow Fox Hip Hop BBQ Nation to troll us? Oh, it’s never a choice. Here’s the latest: “REAGAN GIVEN MIDDLE FINGER IN OBAMA WHITE HOUSE.” The photo shows Barack Obama and Michele Obama and Eric Holder wearing Che shirts and, yes, flipping off St. Ronaldus Magnus. Or are those just some gay people from Philly? Democrats all look the same.
Fox Nation links to an article in Philadelphia magazine, which bears the more appropriate headline “What Happens When You Let Gay Philly Activists Into the White House.”
Last Friday, an attaché of important gay people from Philadelphia made a trip to Washington D.C. as invited guests of President Barack Obama for the White House’s first-ever gay pride reception. There, they danced to the sounds of a Marine Corps band; they dined on crab cakes and canapés; they hand-delivered letters from concerned citizens like this 18-year old who has had four people close to him gunned down, and noted rhyming raconteur CA Conrad; and some of them took advantage of photo opportunities to give the late President Ronald Reagan the middle finger.
Why President Obama instructed them to do this is a real question. It’s not like gay activists would have any reason to dislike Ronald Reagan, who didn’t acknowledge AIDS as a problem for the first six years of his presidency. Thank God we only have a few more days until the Supreme Court rules that Obama is no longer president.”
I wonder who the Republicans PR coordinator is?
He sure is good. Related to Goebbels is he?
Who are the successors to Nini?
Money never cares what’s said. Only as long as more is made.
Prof Turley, you don’t have anything better to do than repost memes from “The Blaze”?
Ignore an epidemic of death for 6 years v gave an oil painting the finger.
Which is more obscene?
The Blaze . . . I’ve just spent some time this afternoon looking that “source of information” over and I have to say that the most beneficial thing this blog article here has done was to inform me of yet another media outlet that merits automatic suspicion as a source of valid, non-partisan information.
If they had posed with an upright fist, would it have symbolized solidarity?
A section of our society (glbt) has been ostracized abused neglected denigrated killed and abandoned for ??? ever? The symbolism of the invite and meeting by the “evil empire of discrimination” to recognize GLBTs as citizens and welcomed, must be as heady as it gets to those goodly souls that have suffered so long. Exuberance is a Human emotion, and displayed in many ways. I understand the exuberance, I understand the expression. The Trolls don’t. I politely say F*** the trolls on this one. The higher angels of fairness understand this social faux pas. Sometimes the adults have to stand up to the children and say, Don’t worry little Troll, someday when you’re grown up you’ll understand. …..
I expect all of you who do not think is uttelry idiotic to be front and center defending anyone who poops on a picture of Obama on the WH lawn.
Some of the thoughts are quite profound though.
Yes, this was photoshopped, the people’s FB posts hacked, and their own quotes were concocted (Huffington Post seems to be in on it too). Isn’t there a speech about the lizard overlords that you guys need to attend (i.e. David Ickes)?
And I’m surprised no one took the opportunity to protest the military industrial complex while there. “Mr. President, there is a lunatic in the West Wing launching tirades against paintings.” “Get them up here immediately as I need to discuss how to replace Halliburton and Lockheed!”
It’s also a shame that they weren’t allowed into the section of the WH where we have pictures of Hitler. If only! That said, I’m sure nothing would be said if people were caught in the WH mocking pictures of foreign leaders and those pics went international.
Less than 2 dozen comments and multiple references to Nazis. Internet Comments 101 over here.
Those of us who don’t vote on party lines are pretty much screwed since the vast majority of people seem to wait to judge a story until they can identify the political alignment of those involved. Some conservatives defend the jackass who interrupted Obama during a speech. Some liberals defend these people. Unbelievable.
Idealist707
Money never cares what’s said. Only as long as more is made.
Is that your quote, or do you have an attribution for it. I would like to put it in my messaging file.
“two people do not a movement make.”
and yet it was only 2 people who were able to convince a school board a goo0d book was ‘pornographic”.
The right 2 people who have access to the people who wilol do their biding can a movement make. I only heard about it here also but I am sure it willo be evrywhere quite soon and 2 idiots may have started something they never considered.
Finally LGBT are getting the rights they deserve. People like these will only harden the minds, hearts, and actions of those who are homophobic.
Shame on them fir not acting like grown ups.
Gene H, I agree with you. This, to me, is about civility. If one wants to spew about Ronald Regan, I’m sure there is a blog somewhere where one is completely free to do so. However, no matter what one might think about Regan or Bush or even Obama, no matter what one might think of their respective policies, the OFFICE of the President (and, hence, the person who holds said office) deserves respect. One of the first lessons one learns in the service is that one salutes the rank, not the person. As a gay man myself, I am embarrassed by such actions (this is assuming that this was an actual occurrence). We have certainly lost a sense of civility and I fear that civility, like virginity, can never be reclaimed once it has been lost.
Ernest Spoon and Gene are correct IMO, there are problems with all of the photos that are characteristic of photoshopped images. I took the photo into my paint program and it broke down completely at about 550% but the left hand on the woman didn’t hold up at all at even 350%. The guy on the rights left finger seems to have very similar colors as the frame in the background in a band matching the placement of the background. If they aren’t photoshopped it should be a surprise. And illegal to sell a camera with optics that poor or resolution that low
OTOH
Woosty … atrobicious!
You don’t even need to blow them up to see Photoshop. Check the right shoulder to elbow length of the person in the middle photo.
Our parents used to tell us: “Never believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.”
Several years ago a professor from U. C. Berkeley said to me that his parents told him that, too, but “now with Photoshop, you can’t believe anything you see, either.”
Clearly a lack of imagination on the part of today’s erstwhile iconoclasts. Back in my youth, we would turn around, bend over, drop our drawers, and “moon” the object of our derision with our bare asses. I missed my chance with Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, and Reagan wouldn’t have remembered what I did two minutes after I did it; but If given the opportunity, I wold love to moon President Obama — any time, anywhere — proudly proclaiming: “This is for Private Bradley Manning!”
For sheer lèse-majesté, however, no one can beat that Iraqi reporter who took off his shoes and threw them at President George “Deputy Dubya” Bush for wantonly devastating the reporter’s country. Probably not a good idea to throw objects in the White House, but extending one’s arms like airplane wings while circling around making loud droning noises might work. “Buzzzzzzz … Buzzzzzzz …You’ll never see it coming! You’ll never see it coming!” Something like that.
The miscreant malefactors who run our corporate government never hesitate to pose for propaganda photo ops before the symbols of the nation that they have robbed and defiled. So if some ordinary citizens wish to utilize those same symbols to make a point of their own, then I have no problem with that whatsoever. I’d just like to see a little more creativity in the means of expression.
Lottakatz, wow, that’s some technology stuff. Are you a photographer?
Have you looked at the two “bloody head pictures” of George Zimmerman?
has little jimmy o’keefe been takin pictures again?
It’s been 38 years since I started the political gauntlet, working my way from liberal to radical to socialist, then communist and finally settling with conservatism. Back then, the main weapons in the arsenal of the “Army of the People” were deceit, blame-reversal (or, as I prefer to call it, “The Accusatory Lateral”), fact-bending, conspiracy theorism, accustions and uncalled for abusive behavior. How interesting that a culture of “intellectual idealists” , after 38 years, still follows the same old game plan. Makes one wonder…doesn’t it?
My god. Photoshop is the argument?
Must’ve been mind control they used to get the people to post on about this on their FB pages; the White House to address the situation; and people to admit it.
Excuse me while I go debunk 9/11 and the moon landing using Corel WordPerfect, Netscape Navigator, and MiniTab.
Bill W.,
Times change. The rate of change in human psychology moves at a much slower rate.
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czech80,
There is a difference between the definite article “the” and the indefinite article “an”.
However, I invite you to take a closer look at the center picture and consider the anatomy of the human arm. To my eye, his forearm and upper arm are oddly short (and the upper arm seems to missing, but in that low resolution it is hard to tell). Either the man has a malformed arm, it was Photoshopped or it is a very peculiar optical illusion.
In any case, if true, it’s a comedy of manners. If false, it’s a comedy of errors. In the end, the net importance of the event amounts to nothing more substantial than some negative PR for a community that doesn’t deserve it even if the photos are truthful depictions of these people’s actions. Why? Because three people is not a statistically valid sample space by which to judge an entire community of the size of the LGBT community.
A tempest in a teapot.
And from a Glenn Beck website.
Who’d have thunk it?
Gene H.
That’s a double-edged sword, my friend.
Bill W.,
Yes it is and no one “side” in politics is any less guilty of using propaganda (and those examples you cited are just that) against the other “sides” than the anyone else. The toolbox for helping your cause and harming “the others” cause for the “Army of the People” is the same toolbox as used by the “Army of the Oligarchs” (or whatever group or person a given army represents). Over time, tactics in propaganda change very slowly absent the intervention of new technologies for spreading it simply because human nature changes slowly. In most substantive ways, the manner in which you persuade someone today is not that different than you would have persuaded them 100 years ago. Concurrently, the ways any one group advances their causes while hindering the causes of other groups are largely tactically the same because the tactics in question work.
The bird is the word. This article is a backhanded way of throwing rocks at President Obama. A week ago or so he and Eric Holder were criticised for Holder giving a speech to black ministers. This week it is Gay, Gay, Gay and Gays flip Reagun the bird. We dont know what the members of Blackwater do when invited by Cheney to roam around the Oval Office. When Romney brings in the Mormons they will be drinking Five Wives Vodka. When his VP brings in the K Street money givers they will be flipping off photos of Roosevelt and Truman. The hookers from C street and the gay friends of Romney from C street will be flipping off Biden’s photo. When they invite the Log Cabin Republicans in to the Romney White House they will be flipping off photos of Bush for discriminating against gays in the military.
Malisha, I was a photographer of a sort at one time and did a lot of computer graphics as a hobby. The problem with some older phone cameras is that they did funny distortions if you didn’t hold them still (There was a photographer that exploited that as an artistic method and did some interesting work but I lost that folder of images when my old computer died unexpectedly so I don’t have his name anymore} and older phones and cameras don’t have great resolution.
In general, if the photo is in focus and you enlarge it the area of primary focus it should break down into a field of distinct pixels uniformly at the same level of enlargement, if there is one area that breaks down at a different rate then there’s something ‘odd’ going on. It may have been a flaw or obstruction on the lens itself but it could well be a deliberate manipulation.
Also, a way to add a detail is to use layers over the original image and start with image details to add that have some degree of transparency where the image is to merge with the existing image, it’s easier to smooth and blend the new image in a then merged set of layers. You can then add more layers (or a layer) and selectively use less transparency to end up with a solid detail. If you do it carefully with a paint program you can end up with some pretty good work. If you do it poorly you can end up with an underlying image ghost. That’s why I wanted a look at the pic on the left because the middle finger seemed to have some uncharismatic colors that were the same as the picture frame under them.
But here’s the thing, poor quality digital cameras can do some funkey stuff. They looked ‘shopped to me. Maybe yes, maybe no.
It was something I did because it’s something I do with most pictures that look ‘funny’ to me. Just something to do.
I am one of those folks though that don’t care if they did give Reagan the bird. I’m of a mindset that burning bibles, korans, flags and politicians in effigy is just political speech. GIRD (later to be AIDS) could have been identified earlier and after it was identified, contained to a great extent, if it hadn’t been for Reagan and the American Red Cross. Regan deserves being flipped off for soooooooo many reasons. The book “And The Band Played On” by Randy Shilts is a masterful job of investigative journalism, a compelling medical mystery, and an infuriating look ate the politics of AIDS from the top down. It’s a heartbreaking book. If the photos aren’t shopped, I’m not going to spend a moment condemning the lack of civility. Regan’s official portrait doesn’t seem to adequately capture all the blood on his hands, but official portraits never do.
David Blauw,
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Idealist707
Money never cares what’s said. Only as long as more is made.
Is that your quote, or do you have an attribution for it. I would like to put it in my messaging file.
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It’s mine. I slways attribute otherwise, even if vaguely.
I specialize in these things. Since have no knowledge, I cook up these things instead.
And tell me please, what is a messaging file? Trying to learn internet at 75.
Note to all.
Praise given to certain personality types can lead to their fastening in repetitive behaviour patterns. So please observe this caution when giving praise here.
Do not feed them praise, it is addictive, my shrink says that.
OK, I say, but just a little “roach” please.
BettyKath,
“shoulder to elbow length….”
You never seen a suit sewn for a goy by a jewish tailor. Happened to me in LA, ushere by a buddy, Gene, at work.
Gene played the bright eager young man for years, unril I told him it was time to switch over to sober advisor style. He did.
BTW, BettyKath, were you never suspicious of Reagan’s
enormous shoulders and chest with the little head peeking up? You know the kind you see in cartoons.
LottaKatz,
OMG, are you dense? Don’t you know that Malisha wants you to look at the two bloody head photos of Zimmerman and give a readout on their being shopped or not.
Now if you had launched into all that photo stuff with mem it would be fine. Cause I’m a photo freak, but she’s a JUSTICE freak, particularly now using Zimmerman as an example.
Thank you for giving me the chance to feel superior. Doesn’t happen many times to me. Hee, hee.
OT anytime with me on optics. The cells talk all the time about Mbits of pixels, shame there is not certification of minimum optical quality of the lens in it.
Prime examples of the suspected mental issues.
I wasn’t there during Reagan’s regime, otherwise I would add soem stuff to Lotta’s list.
To me he was always Mr. Snow Job, the one President who could give you the buddy look a la “What me worry”
-Älfred E Neumanns, and then some ,”heh-heh”, weak assed explanation that only fools and Republicans would buy. Anybody notice the equivalency?
And this is a sound expression of our saying: EFF the system. Not any one or several Presidents by respective partisan groups. That is my warped interp.
And now a repeat of my earlier message:
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Really, how asinine is this uproar?
We see the swinging door and the front door opened wide each day to lobbyists, and the whole list of riff-raff who scorn this nation and it’s people—-do we protest every day? Do we protest at all. (Somebody will respond to that challenge.)
No, we don’t I feel, not as much as we should do.
Now, does political wiseness compensate for evil acts or intents?
Seems so.
Not to me.
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Hoping for more demonstrations. Never forget the one at the Mexico City Olympics, by Smith and Carlos (??).
That felt like my arm raised. Was it the same for you?
idealist707 1, June 23, 2012 at 5:31 am
David Blauw,
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Idealist707
Money never cares what’s said. Only as long as more is made.
Is that your quote, or do you have an attribution for it. I would like to put it in my messaging file.
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It’s mine. I slways attribute otherwise, even if vaguely.
I specialize in these things. Since have no knowledge, I cook up these things instead.
And tell me please, what is a messaging file? Trying to learn internet at 75.
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You could easily teach the young folks who use “the innertubes” and “the google” a thing or two.
BarkinDog 1, June 23, 2012 at 1:52 am
The bird is the word. This article is a backhanded way of throwing rocks at President Obama. A week ago or so he and Eric Holder were criticised for Holder giving a speech to black ministers. This week it is Gay, Gay, Gay and Gays flip Reagun the bird. We dont know what the members of Blackwater do when invited by Cheney to roam around the Oval Office. When Romney brings in the Mormons they will be drinking Five Wives Vodka. When his VP brings in the K Street money givers they will be flipping off photos of Roosevelt and Truman. The hookers from C street and the gay friends of Romney from C street will be flipping off Biden’s photo. When they invite the Log Cabin Republicans in to the Romney White House they will be flipping off photos of Bush for discriminating against gays in the military.
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Woof!
Sometimes we drift away from actual history. There are two sides to the coin. Thanks for bringing up the other side of the coin:
(How Good Can President Obama Be?). I think it was Gene H who said that rocks could be thrown at the last 4 presidents, meaning also that our society is adrift, and we do ourselves a disservice to attribute it only to individuals.
A comment I read somewhere said “If it takes a whole village to raise a child, perhaps it takes a whole nation to make a great president?”
Perhaps JT was criticizing the society at large for not supporting a broader effort at improvement?
Lottakatz and they also forget that because of Reagen a number of disabled killed themselves when, without rhyme, reason, or adequate notification, he removed thousands from the social security disability rolls leaving them with no source of income..
Lottakatz, thanks for all that education; you really handed the information to me on a platter! (My son is great with this kind of teaching but not many other people can do it, and consequently, I usually fail to understand explanations of technological magic.)
I’m also very indifferent about whether or not somebody elevated his or her middle finger near a photograph — didn’t even read the main article that led this thread! — but I was fascinated by the photography stuff.
Idealist 707 Your quote hit my brain comprehension center and bounced around it and now wants to stay there. I think it is excellent and well proven historically, especially politically. Thank you.
)….. I learned how to make smiles about 3 months ago, I am still finding them neat to make.
My term ‘messaging file’ came out of my brain comprehension center, which coincidentally enough, the term ‘brain comprehension center’ just came out of itself about 6 sentences ago. It’s a miracle another Virgin birth !!
I have gotten accustomed to my confusion of terms, the benefits are being surprised by myself at the terminologies that suddenly appear.
I acquired my 1st computer 10 months ago, my ignorance is fascinating. Most 10 year olds know much more than I about its use and proper terms.
So in conclusion my basic messaging file is in my head, I just discovered it is located in my “brain comprehension center” and messaging file sounded like I knew what I was talking about….. This is a win win, I have a new quote that is good, and I now have two new areas of recognition in my brain.
Thank you
David Blauw,
Maybe there are more than you and I discovering our brains growing and finding new facilities. My own explanation for mine is the taking away of constrictions, inibitions, constant worrying over land mines etc etc. that my mind is now free to operate better.
Have no idea what yours is connected to, if indeed it is a change as I interpret it to be. Good luck with it and keep me informed as a cheerleader for you.
Here’s some just for you. Words are but sounds we use to represent objects (anything which can be objectified).
We agree on their usefulness and congruency with reality or other places. Which comes first? The thought or the concretization in words. Obvious, says the newborn. The thought does.
Your thoughts are yours to play with in whatever center you wish to designate. Freud’s are no better than yours. Many authorities stultify.
I am currently delighted in exotic words never used in 60 years popping up in perfect consistency with the match needed.
Thanks for sharing.
We can trade discoveries. Like social bookmarking discovered yeaterday. And how to export bookmark files from Windows Explorer (Don’t know).
BTW, how do you make smiles, and is the WordPress guide standard HTML? Just came upon the possibility now.
Getting loose from the chains acquired when growing up is useful and fun.
I lived in NYC when Regan kicked all the mental patients out of the hospitals. the city was never, ever the same after that. People were sleeping on traffic medians in sweltering heat in broad daylight because they had no where else to go.
Reagan made a hell on earth for some people.
Kicking the mental patients out had another perhaps unintended consequence, a convoluted thing, actually. The mental patients go OUT. They become the homeless but the homeless shelters really can’t deal with them. They have no services, and no structure. At the same time, many of the state mental hospitals are now in a shambles, no money coming in from Medicaid, Medicare, etc. Some of them become homes for the criminal courts to send people to in “diversion programs.” These are often for drug busts, some of which are busts of convenience and even “drop/busts” when the drugs were just planted on homeless people to give them a reason to be arrested. Then they go to the state-run mental hospitals on a different expense line than they used to go in on, and for no real reason, and with no real treatment, for six months at a pop because that’s how the criminal justice system does its little non-habeas deprivations: in units of six months each. Some judges get awards for working out diversion programs. And the whole thing goes another unrecognizable round.
How many can say: “Same in my state.”?
Incredible. And not an evil intent in sight.
Wait, wait, nobody answered Professor’s original question:
“Exactly how stupid is this?”
Professor, exactly: 79.5666666 stupid. (Those who disagree with my calculation and the underlying data are wrong.)
We’re Queer, We’re’ Here, get used to. I told more than one fruit I don’t care if he’s queer or not. Keep it to yourself. And stop parading around in your tight leather pants. Unless you want to get your ass kicked.
Matt seen a lot of vegetables (guess that is the opposite of ‘fruits’) parade around in tight leather pants. Whose ass will you kick or will you ask them first if they are hetero or homo-sexual?
Matt,
He might cut off your balls if you said that. I am looking forward to that. But you are just trolling for attention of course. Matt is drunk and disabled again.
ID707,
My balls wouldn’t get lost. And neither would his. He would simply go over the side. I’m not drunk or disabled. Are you? Stay away from the wolf cage in Sweden.
leejcaroll 1, June 24, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Matt seen a lot of vegetables (guess that is the opposite of ‘fruits’) parade around in tight leather pants. Whose ass will you kick or will you ask them first if they are hetero or homo-sexual?
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I won’t ask any questions. I prefer broccoli, celery, green beans, peas, and certain others. Tomatoes and onions too. Any sauce to go with that? To make a salad?
Blouise
1, June 22, 2012 at 8:15 pm
Woosty … atrobicious!
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Blouise did you just call me a ‘bad girl’…..?
The Supreme Court reversed a decision by a Montana court supporting a state anti-corruption law passed in 1912 that prohibited corporate influence in state elections, reaffiriming that their Citizens United decision invalidates such restrictions. Montana, supported by 22 states and Sens. John McCain (R-AZ) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), had argued that their law should be allowed to stand because of the state’s unique history of corruption around its mining industry, which led to its passage by referendum. The court ruled against them 5-4, the same majority that determined Citizens United.
How much water pollution is there in the western states because of mining? Go figure. There are some houses in the western states that are sinking because of mining. I was involved in an audit in Kentucky, where some of the houses were sinking. The houses already had mortgages. Couldn’t live there though, because the houses were condemned. The foundations were cracked and the houses were sinking. Insurance company said it isn’t our fault. And it wasn’t their fault.
Typical behavior from these libtard nutjobs. This is what is to be expected from this human trash, and it will only get worse.
Hubert What they did was assinine and abhorrent but your words are not a whole lot better. Better beware of projection and homophobia.