Maria Pestrikoff has given the world another danger associated with texting. Pestrikoff was texting while walking toward a cliff to toss away a cigarette. While still texting, she slipped on the grass and went over the 60-foot cliff — causing a difficult rescue in Kodiak, Alaska.
Rescuers fought to get to her before the tide came in. They reached her when the tide was only ten feet away from carrying her out.
She is now recovering. When an accident like this is caused by negligence, should the person be required to pay for the part of the rescue? I have long taken the view that such services should not be charged to citizens, even in cases of negligence. However, there is a growing trend in charging citizens for rescues. What do you think?
Source: Daily Mail
Absolutely not! Until we start charging the oil companies for the wars we fight to protect their interests, no citizens should be charged for a rescue. I am only partially joking about the oil companies. Rescue is an important function of government for which taxpayers pay. If we start charging an accident could bankrupt a victim. Many of these services have already been outsourced, can you imagine the charges a private rescue corporation would dream up. Did you know that some ambulance service providers charge a thousand dollars to go a few blocks, just for the transport?
We should not pay for her health care which will be required because she is a dumb smoker. And to say dumb smoker is an oxymoron and in this case the photo suggest a bit of an ox for sure.
Fat litterbug.
Stupid is, as stupid does………..
Well I think that if we are going to AAAARRRRRGGGGGggggggggg…………
FWIW….
No…..
The question must be asked…. is this a life worth saving?????
“However, there is a growing trend in charging citizens for rescues. What do you think?”
That growing trend may be the result of the incessant plunder of the treasury by the plunder barons, leaving none for wee the people.
The 1% have been so busy destroying other nations so they can rebuild them, and that noble adventure is sooo wonderously expensive, as noble adventures tend to be … thus, rescuing citizens is not high up on the list of things that make heroes, so cut the budgets and let the hoi polloi eat cake.
There is always an example of the stupid hoi polloi to put on the MSM to show why the little people should be charged for their lowly stupidity, and why the 1% should not be charged for their magnificent stupidity.
Charging people for rescues?
Negative.
Isn’t this stuff already paid for?
It’s kind of funny how the STATE says “We must tax you to pay for the provision of general welfare.” then when they provide that paid for service… charge you AGAIN!
#naturalselectionatwork
No. I would wager a good many if not most accidents are caused by negligence. We are humans. Not robots.
And what Justice Holmes said. Again. You’re on a roll JH.
I will grant the woman doesn’t present a very sympathetic character. Smoking, fat, litterbug, careless, but we can’t start singling out those who deserve care from those who don’t. What about those of us who eat too much salt or sugar, catch a sexual disease, get injured from an extreme sport? The list would never stop.
Rick Roberts… there is a vast difference between negligence and stupidity.
As someone who has his medical out of pocket capped at 200.00 per annum, I’d say no. After a few doctor visits at 40 per then my OOP is paid.
If you should ever decide to go wandering in Scandinavia (in the mountains) do it in Sweden.
Norway charges for rescues, even if is a heart attack.
My latest heart attack, the ambulance nurse did not ask to draw my credit card.
Sarah has gained some weight, but in her defense, she was probably keeping an eye on Russia.
Wow you are hiking out in nature and you are texting ???? what are you doing with the cell phone to start with …..enjoy the nature… wonder if she learned a lesson ???? hope she is Ok but to be billed for it… No that is what all those taxes go for that we pay… I think ????? lol hmmmmm the world today we live in… hell the government can’t even take care of our soldiers coming home…. just saying
Several an Diego County communities have instituted a policiy of charging NON-RESIDENTS for city-provided services, a policy which makes a certain amount of sense to me. City taxpayers pay for the police, fire and rescue department facilities and staff, and should not be charged again when they need the service, but non-residents can, I think, quite reasonably be expect to be billed for the services of agencies which they are not paying to fund.
“Pestrikoff was texting while walking toward a cliff to toss away a cigarette.”
I haven’t smoked for 28 years, but I never, while out in nature, “tossed away a cigarette.” I butted them out, field stripped them and, once I had switched to filtered smokes, put the remaining filter in my pocket. Shame on her.
Case by case analysis regarding charges for services is prudent, and warranted in this case. We all know the situation because it is so pervasive. When I walk through the UW campus I see thousands of students walking between classes, some on bikes and scooters. They do not speak w/ one another, they are texting and talking on their cells. It looks like it could be a scene from the Woody Allen classic, Sleeper.
I also see on a daily basis the great lifeguards in San Diego rescuing people who ignore rip currents, and those who think they’re rock climbers getting stuck on the beautiful but unstable cliffs. They don’t charge for rescues but when I chat w/ these lifeguards[they're actually firefighter/paramedics] they think there should be charges for some rescues.
No. Rescue services are part of what we get for paying taxes and why we support volunteer fire departments.
Justice Holmes had it right in the beginning.
we ought to get something for our taxes.
You can’t start charging folks for rescues, even if they were stupid or negligent to get into the situation. It’s an impossible way to run a society. Which of us has NEVER been stupid, NEVER made a foolish error, NEVER been guilty of negligence, NEVER had a close call and then said, as our heart-rate returned to normal, “Damn, that was close, how dumb of me!”
We DO owe to each other that we will try to help each other from exigent circumstances even if we have been foolish, wrong, stupid, negligent, or, frankly, wicked. We’re part of a big thing that allows for error.
We need to have warnings on cell phones, similar to those on cigarettes. ”Texting while doing almost anything, except sitting, can be dangerous to you health”
Catullus
1, September 28, 2012 at 8:22 am
——————–
hahahaha!
this blog is making me so callous….but I must say, I worked as a nurse at a VA where the majority of the nurses actually had that attitude that if a pt smoked, they were wasting tax payer dollars and their time because if they smoked, they were ‘asking’ for the illness. Needless to say I did not last there very long. As a nurse, to be effective, I could not ‘judge’ my patients. To see a patient as somehow complicit or even causative in their illness and having THAT personal judgement, at that level of care, dictate what level of nursing ‘ I ‘ (mememememe) thought they should receive, was in my mind a true and substantial failing. And the thing is, it is a rare bird that can have that thought and not be diminished in their capacity to do the job…so yes, what Justice Holmes said and even more so….it is the quality of what we give that effects the outcome, not the amount that WE THINK someone deserves…
Privatization and outsourcing of the basic compassionate services that made this Country exceptional and free has undermined the very fabric of what this Country ‘says’ it is. Maybe it’s time we gave more to those who have been hurt by the double edged sword of the politically motivated judgements and started to mend the damage…
No charge for rescue services caused by run of the mill negligence. However, there are times when someone goes out of their way to put themselves at risk that I’m OK with charging them. Wasn’t there some multi-millionaire who wanted to be the first to circumvent the globe in a balloon who had to be rescued when his balloon went down? May be misremembering. Anyways, something like that seems OK to charge them because they’re knowingly putting themselves at risk.
Lucky she wasn’t crossing the street and got hit by a car
Take a ride in a Los Angeles city ambulance, you’ll get a bill
Malisha,
At least since the good samaritan.
“Oh, your taxes pay for keeping us ready. When we do it for you, that costs extra.”
I’d rather my tax dollars go towards paying for a leg up for someone after a dose of human stupid than a war to feed a greedy bloody irresponsible beast…..
“field stripped them…”
Now where have I heard that? In college Spring Day paries? In the Army? At parties in Stockholm?
Woosty,
Speaking from personal experience, practice of such a judgemental attitude toward everything can easily make life a pest for the practitioner.
Check yourselves out sometime. Might be surprised what you find.
id I am no longer surprised at anything!
Sad state of affairs, very sad. Stupidity, cellphones and natures bounty take care of each other.
What Justice Holmes said from a practical and moral standpoint; what Woosty said from a compassionate standpoint; what Billie said from a values standpoint; what Gene said from an anthropological standpoint.
Many voices made into one.
“When an accident like this is caused by negligence….”!?! A ship that loses control is an act of negligence on behalf of a part manufacturer or mechanic; getting caught in a storm is almost always negligence given our understanding of weather; wild animal attacks in the wilderness certainly involve an assumption of risk and therefore negligent behavior; hunting injuries are negligence; as we become more an more knowledgeable of the world and the dangers present, what isn’t negligence? Okay, maybe someone having a medical emergency due to some un-diagnosed illness or condition still can’t be considered negligent, but if they have any medical indication that they are less than fit and they go for a casual mountain climb….
However, if we don’t publicly fund rescue services, then would we lose most of this expert capability and only have them available where there is sufficient demand (like areas of concentrated millionaire daredevils)?
I think the answer is the system needs to be managed and subsidized by the USG if for no other reason than it also serves a national security role, but, yes, negligent people must pay for their rescues, And I am sure that there are/will be insurance policies available to help manage the individual burden of persons who choose to be careless.
Woosty,
I showed my bottom in the conviction that it shared a similar crack as all have. Was that a personal remark aimed at me or just in general? I can laugh at both replies, however want to know which.
Was that a personal remark aimed at me or just in general?
————————
it was not a barb…..I look around, especially in the sphere of politics, and the only thing that would surprise me at this point is my surprise.
There is a shadow on the World and the Sun has yet to rise I’m afraid….
There is a shadow on the World and the Sun has yet to rise… I’m afraid.
Never in my souls life did I ever think that ‘compassion’ could be dangerous…I have been proved wrong. There are many in positions of ‘rule’ that are ruled by ‘fear’.
I can’t blame anyone for doing something nutty in these times…nothing that is right is seen as anything but weak or wrong and nothing that is wrong is even seen….unless some $$$$$$ is involved and only then if it can be capitalized upon…or the bill passed to someone else.
Why would anyone complain about the bill for a rescue???? And let a bill for clearing out a whole entire country for the benefit of private profiteering go completely unchallenged?
Write her a phucking ticket for littering.
I think she should sue the Government for all the fear baiting distractions she’s had to endure over the past 10 years….don’t you?
Woosty, if she got a lawyer and could make it a class action, yeah, and then after 7 years in court, the lawyers would walk with $42 million and all the plaintiffs would get a coupon for a cigarette.
hahahaha!…..and that wouldn’t surprise me either….hahahaha…
Why slam attorneys here?
My take is that under certain circumstances the citizen should reimburse government for rescues. There are two immutable facts here: First, there will be a cost in terms of resources used and safety risk to rescuers. Second, someone wil have to bear that cost. The question is who should bear the cost ultimately since government will bear it initially.
Costs of negligence are typically born by the negligent party. While government has a traditional role of rescue in times of crisis, that role has typically been limited to a generalized role such as in the circumstances of a natural disaster like flood or fire. Govenrment also has a role in preventing generalized harm hence its role in fighting fires that could erupt in one house and move throughout entire neighborhoods, or fighting crime that involves lowering the general quality of life for the public. The basis for this service has been to protect the public at large and not a specific citizen.
Here there is no generalized public function at issue. The young lady in question created the circumstances of her distress through her own bubble-headed negligence. Her rescue involved considerable risk to the government responders as well as necessitated the expenditure of considerable resources to accomplish. The situation was entirely preventable with mere scant care much less ordinary care.
Under these cirumstances of a particularized service to a specific citizen brought about by their own thoughtless actions, I would assess a fee commensurate with the risk and resources involved. I would do this to both reimburse us all for the resources expended and to deter the foolishness that caused it.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rioWxggTjg8&w=420&h=315%5D
—————-
contrast with;
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/06/again-firefighters-let-home-burn-to-the-ground-because-owners-didnt-pay-75-fee/
————-
oh yeah, you’d be surprised how many firefighters don’t have health insurance….
Candy Picker,
Why slam lawyers here, you ask.
Did you read Msspos’ comment after Woosty was discussing the fate of this world and the people in it?
That’s why.
Save a dog and drone some people.
What was it you said Woosty.
I said you are deep, and still say it.
Woosty said, “I think she should sue the Government for all the fear baiting distractions she’s had to endure over the past 10 years….don’t you?”
How about a class action lawsuit by the people against this administration and the previous one? Ok, it would be thrown out but it’s still a nice thought.
btw, did her cell phone survive?
idealist:
“Why slam lawyers here, you ask.
Did you read Msspos’ comment ….”
********************
I guess two concepts racing through your brain is too taxing. No one said — or even implied — that the government shouldn’t aid a fool in extricating themselves from a dangerous situation of their own making. What was said was that the fool, having been saved from their own foolhardiness, has no right to expect that her rescue would come without a cost. She endangered the lives and spent the money of others. Reimbursement for that would be merely the lowest level of gratitude.
You may like the role of blubbering sentimentalist. I don’t.
Say it isn’t so, mespo!
Gene H:
Ok, I like it soemtimes!!
Messpo,
You don’t even get the barb. Never will. And that goes for GeneH too. You either get it or you don’t.
We talked earlier about occupational characteristics.
Well, lawyers have their too. More help than that ain’t coming.
PS To GeneH When you use the ex-pat name for me, then you give yourself away. Discarding your sockpuppet were you?
OMG! WTF! LOL!
Here we go I’d…..pissing off or on people again…..great job…..not a good idea with others all the time….
Wait — didn’t the headline change from “OMG IFU” to “OMG B4NNNNN”?
I can’t find the definition (meaning?) of “B4NNNNN” — help me?
OML, OML, RM:
id707,
Your paranoia is getting the better of you. As a GB, I don’t use sock puppets. If I have something to say to you, I’ll do so directly. Of that, you should have no doubt by now.
“How about a class action lawsuit by the people against this administration and the previous one? Ok, it would be thrown out but it’s still a nice thought.” (bettykath)
Count me in. I look forward to the discovery phase.
Paranoia? Pot vs kettle.
I’ll take pot for 100, Alex…..
If that’s all you got, I cordially invite you to take your baseless accusation of sock puppetry and stick it up your ass, id707.
Was that clear enough for you? I mean, it was a direct statement and not made behind any cover at all unlike your usual passive-aggressive “I’m the victim, wah!!!!” gibberish “idealist”. You don’t get to whine about let alone make false accusations of sock puppetry when you yourself post anonymously . . . without looking ridiculous that is. So by all means, continue. But if you think I need a sock puppet to insult you, you are obviously and manifestly mistaken.
bettykath and Blouise-
Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) submitted Articles of Impeachment to the House of Representatives on both George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. I happened to be watching C-SPAN when he submitted the A of I on Dick Cheney. Steny Hoyer was presiding over the HR that day and damn near had a heart attack trying to force a voice vote on it- obviously to kill it. Dennis was having none of it – he stood his ground and demanded a roll call vote- which he got. Of course it was voted down, but he did get a few Republican votes. They probably thought it would embarrass the Dems, who were then, and are today, easily cowed.
HenMan — wait, ” Of course it was voted down, but he did get a few Republican votes.”
Do you know which Republican votes he got?
HenMan,
Dennis did many good things.
HenMan,
It is truly interesting how pols without spines can stand up for anything.
Malisha-
I don’t know what the vote was. I have to leave for awhile- maybe I’ll see if I can find it later on C-SPAN, Wikipedia, or House of Rep. website. If you find it, I would love to know what the vote was on both of the miscreants! Too bad they failed. Who would have been third in line if the impeachments succeeded?
Some fig newton of our imagination.
It would have been the Speaker of the House, HenMan.
Succession runs VP, Speaker of the House, President pro tempore of the Senate, Secretary of State, Treasury, Defense, USAG, Interior, Agriculture, Commerce, etc.
I’m not sure if HenMan was referring to Resolution 333 or not. Dennis introduced several that all eventually ended up in Judiciary where they expired. Hopefully HenMan’s memory will serve and we’ll be able to find out the names and numbers.
I’m guessing that B4NNNNN means:
Bye for Noooooowwwwww.
Nal,
I know Mike Castle of Delaware was one of the republicans and Christine O’Donnell took care of him in the primary.
Henman, “Who would have been third in line if the impeachments succeeded?”
They’d deal first with Cheney, install a new VP, then go for Bush. Just like they did with Nixon. They didn’t want to see Agnew as pres, and like most of them, there is “stuff” on them, or that can be made up, that can be brought out when needed.
ms. pestrikoff must be the russian sarah can see from her house
pete9999 — if she looks really quickly.
mespo- we have a dumb a55 driver penalty in Az. If a driver is stupid enough to enter a flooded wash despite warning signs during a rain- and has to be rescued- they must pay the cost of that rescue.
I forgot what the real name of this law might be…..but any dumb a55 who drives into a flash flood will pay..
Blouise, You’re correct about Kucinich. He brought to the forefront the space alien problems confronting the nation and world. I saw him in Roswell last year @ a vegan restaurant trying to pick up a waitress. He’s more tiny than Rahm or Bloomberg.
I like the photo of the dog getting rescued.
Oh, if it’s a ‘legitimate’ rescue then there shouldn’t be a charge? Sounds to me like some folks are channeling Todd Aiken.
nick,
Yep, he’s height and weight challenged. I’ve know Dennis since he was Mayor of Cleveland. He’s always been “out there” and willing to take the political hit for his principles.
His district was redistricted out from under him but he was spending so much time doing other things that he’d lost much of his home support anyway. Kaptur ( longest-serving woman in the U.S. House of Representatives) beat him easily in the primary.
The redistricting was based on population losses as the state lost 2 congressional districts overall.
Kaptur is now running against Republican Samuel “Joe the Plumber” Wurzelbacher … kid you not … Joe the Plummer.
She is now recovering. When an accident like this is caused by negligence, should the person be required to pay for the part of the rescue? I have long taken the view that such services should not be charged to citizens, even in cases of negligence. However, there is a growing trend in charging citizens for rescues. What do you think?
================================
She didn’t fall off the cliff on purpose. If you go mountain climbing when you know a snowstorm might be pending, you should have to pay.
Malisha-
“Animal Crackers” 1930- Paramount Pictures
Captain Spaulding (Groucho Marx) referring to The Professor (Harpo Marx), who has just entered the room:
“The gates swung open and a fig newton entered.”
bettykath, Blouise, et.al.-
Sorry to bring up a topic and then bail out. I found the info I was looking for on the Library of Congress website.
Blouise- H.RES.333 was the original Articles of Impeachment (4-24-2007) against Dick Cheney, which was referred to the House Judiciary Committee, where it died.
H.RES.799 (11-6-2007) was the same Articles of Impeachment against Cheney introduced a second time. This was the one I saw on C-SPAN.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:H.Res799:
Click on “All Information” for the sequence of events, which was pretty much as I remembered it. Click on “Text of Legislation” to read the Articles of Impeachment. The roll call votes are also listed.
I have to admit to a lack of knowledge of parliamentary procedure, so I can’t explain exactly what the three votes meant, but ultimately the bill was referred to the House Judiciary Committee, then to a sub-committee where it died again.
The original bill had 27 co-sponsors. Apparently the House had lost the stomach to impeach Cheney- the second bill had only 1 co-sponsor.
Sorry, my link to the Library of Congress doesn’t work.
Go to the Library of Congress website and key in “H.RES.799″ in the search box to find the Articles of Impeachment information.
GeneH,
Now how can anyone prove you were the puppet. Covered there of course.
AY suspected mo of being a puppet for a long while.
Now he’s back with general cranky unspecified stuff.
But your reasoning, speaking, argumentation ways are clearly established here. Someone mentioned that Read my Blog was possibly a puppet. Voilá—to make a long story short. It matched with you know who.
I want waste my time trying to prove or demonstrate. Content to say it was GeneH’s hand.
Using the same GeneH insults, aspersions, undefined diffuse pejerative accusations, same argumentation structure, choice of arguments from the standard shelf, etc.
I won’t bother answering your usual put-downs this time. It is wasted breath. I will just say that such obsessive behavior would be a matter of concern if you were committed.
Now have the last word, It will be as usual, highly insulting and invective filled. Predictable you are.
Have a nice day. I lie when needed.
Blouise, Don’t get me wrong,. I always have a place in my heart for quixotic people. Kucinich is just such an easy target. It was a guilty pleasure jabbing him.
id707,
It’s a matter of logic. Why would I bother to use a sock puppet to insult you when I am perfectly willing and able to do so directly? Hmm? It would be quite easy for those responsible for this blog to find out if sock puppets were being used by the GBs or anyone else. There is no benefit from such a tactic or indeed a need for it. To paraphrase Martin’s The Hound, a dog needs no courage to attack rats. Just so, he needs no subterfuge either.
I’ve made no bones about that I think you’re mentally unstable and a douche bag on top it in the past and indeed I responded to your baseless accusations this time with a direct attack against you. (Speaking of predictable, isn’t it time for you to cry about what a victim you are now that you’ve attacked someone else?)
So you tell us . . . what is the possible reason I would need or even want to use a sock puppet to deal with you?
Come on.
Make as cogent and rational a case as your demented lil’ mind can muster.
If you make a claim, the burden of proof rests upon you. If you – as you admit – cannot prove your claim? You had better have logic to back your assertion. If you have no logic (and clearly in light of my response you don’t because clearly I have no need of subterfuge if I want to simply insult you), then your claim of me using sock puppets is simply more meaningless trollish gibberish from you that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
Other than being a display of brazen stupidity and distraction much like that of the errant littering texter.
Here’s the most notorious sock-puppeteer of all time:
nick,
People have been jabbing at Dennis since he first achieved high office. In the 70′s, as Mayor of Cleveland, he refused to sell off the city’s electric plant. People screamed and hollered and the banks told everybody how wrong and “stubborn” he was. Two years later he was out.
Then a funny thing happened, all those privately owned electric companies started raising their rates. Everybody was paying through the nose … except for the Cleveland residents. In hindsight, the people of Cleveland decided that stubborn little guy had saved them millions and millions of dollars … money still in every citizen’s pocket.
Dennis’ political career was reborn and he never looked back.
It’s okay to jab him … lots of the best people do.
Mmmmm . . . lambchop. A decadent breakfast. Now if I can just remember where the mint jelly is stored. And why is it a cruel turn of fate that mint jelly is awesome on meat and terrible on a PB&J? Sometimes the questions run too deep . . .
http://leanforward.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/27/14129778-romney-still-silent-on-afghanistan-as-military-report-gives-the-surge-an-f?lite
Somebody badmouthed Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. Said something about not being able to even listen through a whole show.
Well, we’re talking about stupid “women” who text while they are walking near cliffs, So why not introduce one who has respect for her listeners and offers a full hour (?) of rapid-fire factual analysis of the political scene.
The one linked above covers the facts that Mitt won’t touch the war in Afghanistan. He acknoweledges that there are veterans who need help, but won’t say how he is going to fix the problem. And worse of all on the consequences of war, he does not mention that his Repulbican collegues (you know the party he is leading) are blocking a routine yearly bill to increase compensation to widows and children of slain soldiers (cost of living increases). He won’t take the war in his mouth.
We don’t know what the Repubs and Mitt want to do. The convention gave no clue she ssys.
And she is not just pro-Obama, she takes up what the results of the annual stats by our military in Afghanistan per “Enemy initiated attacks” and “IED explosións”. Well, she showed quite thoroughly, with easily understood graphics, that the surge gave results alright. It has given NEGATIVE results. The surge was a riptide effect for us. There are roghtly 30% more events than in the period before the surge began. And we now have 68,000 facing death and maiming every day. What are you gonna do, Mitt? Anybody know?
She cited the longest serving Republican, Mr “Stand Pat” from Florida. What does he ssy?
Take them home immediately, is his answer. No more.
It is not worth risking young men’s lives for.
(My paraphrase)
So you see their are intelligent programs written for adults and delivered by women who can think and TALK even. Of course, she might wander over a cliff if she ever got a chance to put a question to Mitt Romney.
Is this where we come to the point of saying that this is where peoples real identifies are not safe? No wonder people have issues with you and the safety of the Internet.
mespo:
all good thoughts but it was an accident, like a ship running aground or capsizing in a storm. Should the owner of the ship be charged for the rescue?
Some of these rescues, like Woosty’s dog rescue video, are training opportunities for the crews. They are low risk with little chance of loss of human life. Seems to me they serve a positive function.
Rule #1 – JT makes the rules.
Rule #2 – Should you have a question about the rules, see Rule #1.
Rule #3 – Posters may post anonymously and their identities (should they be or become known to the host, guest bloggers or third party posters) will not be revealed here by the host or the guest bloggers under any circumstances. Should a poster’s real identity be discovered and publicly revealed here (without permission of the party identified) by a third party poster or guest blogger, such revelations will result in said third party or guest blogger being banned (possibly permanently).
Rule #4 – Hijacking another user’s identity – real or pseudonymous – will result in the hijacker being banned (possibly permanently).
Rule #5 – Civility is highly encouraged.
Those are the only hard and fast rules here that I know of other than the four words that trigger automatic moderation (*sshole, f*ck, b*tch and b*stard).
If you have any problems with any of the other posters, GB’s, the host or the policies of this blog as set by the host, you are free to raise your objections to the host. You are also free post elsewhere. This is not only a free speech zone, it is a free association zone. Anyone’s participation in this forum, while generally appreciated, is strictly voluntary. You are not compelled to post here (unless you are a paid troll which would make any chaffing you experience under the minimal rules presented entirely your problem).
The proper place to register any complaints is in the Corrections thread (which may also be used for editorial corrections and story suggestions).
When she threw here cigarette into the environment the lord stepped in and told her on the text message to take two steps forward. She forgets this part because the lord caused a memory block. Praise the Lard on Sunday and on Monday cook with Crisco.
” 93 Moderator, Self Induced
1, September 29, 2012 at 10:56 am
Is this where we come to the point of saying that this is where peoples real identifies are not safe? No wonder people have issues with you and the safety of the Internet.”
Are you pointing at me? Would appreciate the courtesy of naming me instead of the nebulous “you”
Choice is yours, of course.
Am curious as only approving words have gone from me to you so far as I remember. So if it is me, let’s hear it.
Myself, I have no knowledge of the identities of people here, although there are those who claim to know mine. Mike Spindell finally got Anonomously Yours to stop calling me a puppet. How as GB is his secret. And he publicly said so to AY.
I like to keep my fights and discussions here, and would never seek anyone out.
So, what do you say?
Me: Dang! Where’s the gene pool lifeguard when you need him?
Someone: He’s on smoke break.
Me: Sounds about right.
Eddie, the gene pool lifeguard left long ago because nobody would listen to her and the pay and benefits package were inadequate. That is how we came to be where we find ourselves and each other now. But since we’re here, when someone falls off a cliff, we need to pick her back up, dust her off, and chip in from our common pockets for the privilege. That’s only just until we can straighten out the whole damn thing, of course.
idealist707 1, September 29, 2012 at 4:46 am
Have a nice day. I lie when needed.
============================
I like that.
There is no benefit from such a tactic or indeed a need for it. To paraphrase Martin’s The Hound, a dog needs no courage to attack rats. Just so, he needs no subterfuge either.
================================
I used to have a little fat dog who would attack rattlesnakes. I thought he was going to die. The snakes died instead.
Every day I see people walking and texting. Generally they simply trip on a curb or walk into someone. This shows you just how dangerous and stupid texting while walking is.
I don’t understand some of these comments does it make people feel so good to slander others?! I mean the fat comments..and hope she learned her lesson..etc..that’s just rude. we have all done something stupid like tripping on a curb or running into a wall not paying attention. So she was smoking and texting. Ok accidents happen. I’m just happy she survived. Must have been quite a scary event for her. I just don’t get people these days. This is why our world is getting so messed up.
Wow that was odd. I just wrote an extremely long
comment but after I clicked submit my comment didn’t appear. Grrrr… well I’m not writing all
that over again. Anyway, just wanted to say wonderful blog!
Hello colleagues, nice piece of writing and fastidious urging commented at
this place, I am actually enjoying by these.
Kori 1, December 12, 2012 at 12:50 am
I don’t understand some of these comments does it make people feel so good to slander others?! I mean the fat comments..and hope she learned her lesson..etc..that’s just rude. we have all done something stupid like tripping on a curb or running into a wall not paying attention. So she was smoking and texting. Ok accidents happen. I’m just happy she survived. Must have been quite a scary event for her. I just don’t get people these days. This is why our world is getting so messed up.
——————————————————————-
The little fat dogs will keep attacking the rattlesnakes. That’s what they do. They don’t even think about it.