By Mark Esposito, Guest Blogger
Still reeling from the unprecedented hits of last week’s national election, Tea Partiers have become particularly irrational. In Lebanon Ohio, local tea party officials called for a “counter-revolution” even as they mourned the death of America. Texas Republican official, Peter Morrison, has publicly asked for an “amicable divorce” of godfearin’ GOP’ers from the “maggots” (his words) who voted for Obama. Morrison, who also has a job screening textbooks for the great state of Texas, is particularly incensed at Asian-Americans and Hispanics who voted for Obama, accusing them of voting on an “ethnic basis.” Perhaps the greatest case of kettle blacking in recent memory.
We will be a socialist nation within months. However, a revolution is rising and all those elected officials that are blind to what they have done to this country should be encouraged to become enlightened, should be encouraged to step down and should not be reelected.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
Mark,
Just how dense can folks be? Do you think its genetic, organic or the general lack of objective reality…..
“Yes,” “yes,” and “yes” with some good ol’ Bible-backed ranting thrown in.
They are funny. They are dense. Unfortunately, they have guns. As a result, they are dangerous. I am not laughing.
Yawn. Seems like Republicans have been hysterically lamenting the death of America after each Clinton election and Obama in 08.
Libertarians are not going to be out done by tea party-ers in the contest of hyperbolic predictions.
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-america-only.html
Nice post, Mespo. Its a fascinating to see the reactions over the past 5 days.
Mark,
When I think of the suicide of the Tea Party, I am reminded of the words of another Mark named Sam who said, “I did not attend his funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.”
Oh, wait, the Tea Party said America committed suicide! That’s a different story altogether. Apparently they didn’t notice the rather robust butt kicking all of their candidates got last week. That whole democracy thing sure is a bummer when your guys don’t win.
Buck up, lil’ hamsters!
One of the funniest things that happened to the tea party and their enablers was all the flack Nate Silver caught for his predictions. Last time Nate called 49 of the 50 states correctly. This week he called all 50 states. Batting average: 1,000!!!!
This is not at all surprising to me. Remember … it was my T-Party neighbor playing TAPS during Romney’s concession speech.
The Texans have something to celebrate. They elected a brand new US Senator named Ted Cruz. He is the tea party candidate that beat the establishment republican in the primary. Unlike the others, he is Harvard educated. There are so many people in Texas that are upset by Obama’s victory. The day before the election I was parked next to a car with a NOBAMA sign on it. I told my son about it, and the next day he texted “GOBAMA. I love you mom”. My friend with the Obama sticker had her car keyed. There have been lots of incidences.
Blouise, I actually was screamed at by a fundamentalist christian republican other day. It was surreal.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57547014/racial-slurs-yelled-at-ole-miss-obama-protest/ It is not just Texas.
What does the GOP expect!? They hi jack the convention & basically tell all 50 states, that if their delegates are for Ron Paul, then they don’t get to vote!!
I think Paul would have had a LOT better chance of winning than Romney, but then Paul is NOT bought & paid for like the other two.
HOW do they expect to win after putting the Bush crime family idiot in office for 2 terms?
Then they pick McCain, one of the “Keating Five” from the biggest saving & loan scandal of the 80′s!!! And they expect to win??? Really?
Some folks know that Texas is not the badger state….. But then again…. You badger enough and something eventually will happen….. Mark, again….. Wonderful article….. But as I see it cuts both ways…. Fanatics and psychotics can be in the same time space continuum …..
They are irrational, and armed to the teeth. That’s what creeps me out.
The “tea party” movement are made up of folks who could not handle the fact that a black man was elected President in 2008; every manifesto that they have spewed out since–to provide them cove–does not mask this salient fact.
What John said! And of course most of the voting was totally rigged anyway. Who knows who REALLY won! If prop 37 lost it HAD to be rigged! Of course, the banksters won whichever of these two got in. But they would have had a VERY tough time of it under Ron Paul.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/08/22/texas-judge-preparing-for-civil-war-if-obama-re-elected/ Lubbock……..
The teabaggers in Arizona still have hope. Arizona is still counting, about 1/4 of the ballots haven’t been counted and there are some close races. There are only a few days left before election results have to be certified unless a delay is granted at the state level. Maricopa County has nearly a half million uncounted votes.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/free/20121107arizona-election-uncounted-votes.html
Mark,
I have been getting the sky is falling emails from my conservative friends. The tea party is imploding.
i’ve been over at redstate reading their comments, nothing but “purges” and bad old liberal media sidetracked us.
they are fun to poke though.
pete, Once in awhile I go over there.
Blind Faithiness:
“Libertarians are not going to be out done by tea party-ers in the contest of hyperbolic predictions.”
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That Eric Dondero is quite a charmer. Calling for everyone with Democratic friends or family to totally disassociate themselves and divorce ‘em if necessary. Armed insurrection, isolationism or — and my favorite solution — running off to other countries as if they want ‘em anyway.
I suppose there’s karma in the notion that the ones always claiming the sky is falling are chickens. Bwwaaak! Bwwaaak!
Good article Mark. As others have already said though, they’re crazy and they’ve got guns. They have proved with this outburst that they’re not in favor of Democracy and they really could be persuaded to revolt. Sounds like treason to me.
The Ayn Rand crowd, the cross burners, birthers, etc. low intelligence. Low competence.
For them in my opinion it’s always the same.
Mind over matter. I don’t mind they don’t matter….
Badger? We don’t need no stinkin’ badgers!
Mike S:
“Sounds like treason to me.”
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Here’s to keep calling it what it is. In the words of Sir John Harington:
“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
The T word is just the Tea party crowd crying over the black man that is still in the White House!
And it only gets worse… Now there are petitions in a handful of states about secession. LOL.
I mean, two of the states were hard blue states (Oregon and NJ). Also, why the hell would anybody in NJ really be for that after the way they’ve been getting help since Sandy!?
People are insane.
Mark,
Forget Bartlett’s, it’s now Mespo’s Book of Quotations. The wisdom of a learned man.
LK,
Maricopa county count goes slowly because they have weep sessions sfter each Obama vote.
ID707
Maybe, maybe. he’s been elected about 6 times (terms) though so sombody likes him.
Cross-threaded by mistake. Now it is right place.
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1, November 12, 2012 at 3:53 am
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“Mike Spindell
1, November 11, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Good article Mark. As others have already said though, they’re crazy and they’ve got guns. They have proved with this outburst that they’re not in favor of Democracy and they really could be persuaded to revolt. Sounds like treason to me.”
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Having lots of guns does not mean you have the courage to use them. Some stats on Republican volunteers for
military service might be interesting.
Putting your body where your mouth is proof of who is a pudding.
That should naturally have been “NOT putting your body…”
This is not true at all. I went to the local Pee Party event here in my county and in fact I entered both the Distance Event and the Write You Gal’s Name In The Snow contest and won both. No one was moaning or complaining about the election. Hell, we still have Ron Paul and Jon Boner. They can wreck anything that these so called Progressives want to accomplish. It iis still Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb in DC. Dont worry. Be Happyl. And pee farthest.
They are embarrassed. They are very childish because they politick on a big-baby-I-want-it-it’s-MINE platform. They are humiliated because a Big-eared Black man beat their golden dreamboy. And they’re mean and vindictive. Look out.
if Romney had won, there would be a good deal of this on the left as well.
Remember Bush derangement syndrome? It would be Romney derangement syndrome. It would probably be worse because Romney is a Mormon.
I take consolation in knowing Exxon/Mobil, Haliburton and Cheney are still pulling the strings of power and that Barrack is just another corporate minion.
The tea party governors that were elected in 2010 are up in 2014. They include Scott, Walker, Corbett and Brewer….the worst of the worst.
Forgot Virginia’s Bob McDonnell
Smom:
you dont have to worry about McDonnell, he is done politically because of the probe.
Bron,
Bron, Here’s some numbers on the third party candidates: Gary Johnson .98% Jill Stein .35%, other .30 %. All combined did not get to 2 %.
Smom:
In hindsight I wish I would have voted for Gary Johnson. I never really warmed up to Mitt and I cant understand why. He seems like a nice guy, he has a nice wife and his children seem to be decent. He is successful and gives money to charity and seems to help his fellow man. He seems to be a good husband and father.
He is probably the most qualified man to run for president in the last 70 years yet I had little enthusiasm to vote for him. It was more of an against Obama vote than a pro Romney vote. I just couldnt relate to him as a human being and I cannot figure it out for the life of me.
It might be that I worked with a Mormon and lived in an apartment with a couple of Mormon families for about 2 years. They were nice enough but you could tell they werent going to be your friend unless you were one of them. Or at least that was my impression.
Bron,
“He is probably the most qualified man to run for president in the last 70 years…”
Really? How did you determine that?
Grover Norquist: Obama Won Because He Called Romney A ‘Poopy Head’
The Huffington Post
By Luke Johnson
Posted: 11/12/2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/grover-norquist_n_2116219.html
Excerpt:
Grover Norquist, founder and president of Americans For Tax Reform, has a new theory about why President Barack Obama won — he portrayed Mitt Romney as a “poopy head.”
“The president was committed; elected on the basis that he was not Romney and Romney was a poopy head and you should vote against Romney and he won by two points,” Norquist said on CBS’ “This Morning” Monday. “But he didn’t make the case that we should have higher taxes and higher spending, he kind of sounded like the opposite.”
Host Norah O’Donnell pushed back. “Well, I’m not sure that’s what the president called Mitt Romney, Grover,” she said. “That’s not the debate that was had … he said very clearly throughout the debate that the wealthiest Americans should pay more and he won eight of the nine battleground states and Republicans failed to reclaim the White House or the Senate.”
Elaine M:
““He is probably the most qualified man to run for president in the last 70 years…”
Really? How did you determine that?
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Well, Romney did sort of preside over his own mini-country by fathering five boys.
“Remember Bush derangement syndrome?”
Bron,
Unlike this year, the 2000 election was stolen in Florida, with the aid of its Governor, Jeb Bush. False equivalency that begs the question.
We’ve even had Tea Partiers gather here in Boston:
The Alternate Reality of the Tea Party Express
What is it with overdramatic rhetoric? Are we so stupid as a nation that we can be won over by this crap? Don’t answer that. You know, when I hear that “Rome Fell” or “Greece Defaulted” or stuff like that, I always ask, “OK, so a person who is home that day, when their country falls, do they just dematerialize or do they have to actually die and get their body buried and all?”
Elaine:
A law degree, a masters degree in business both from Harvard. Huge success in the private sector. A governor.
Tell me who has more qualifications?
Ok maybe a bit of hyperbole but Romney is pretty experienced and he has done a good job with most of what he has done.
Bron,
With all the paper qualifications, Romney should have done better. But he was not really a businessman as much as a financier. There is a world of difference between a man who is skilled at moving money around and one who knows how to work with managers and foremen on a production line, then getting the product to market.
Mike Spindell:
can you honestly say had Romney won there would be no beating of chests on the left and wailing about the end of women’s rights and the president from the 1%?
OS:
Yes, JP Morgan and Andrew Carnegie are a good case in point. But finance is a part of business and thankfully there are men and women who are good at it.
Bron,
I don’t see how making a ton of money in private equity/vulture capitalism serves as a presidential qualification. Yes, he served as governor of Massachusetts–and lost this state by more more than 20%. That’s not a ringing endorsement from the voters of Massachusetts.
poor tea party….don’t they get it? IT TAKES SUPPORT FROM ALL SIDES WORKING TOGETHER
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITcTcpOv92I&w=420&h=315%5D
Bush couldn’t get NAFTA or GATT passed. A Democrat won, so Bush was limited to one term and Clinton won. Clinton twisted the right arms and got NAFTA and GATT and welfare reform and a few other things that tptb wanted but that a R couldn’t have delivered.
deja vue.
So Obama won. Now we can watch the dismantling of the social safety net without the screaming that would have occurred if Romney had won and made it happen. We know that and would have screamed loudly. But when the “good” guy does it, well, guess it must have been necessary. Do you really think the Republicans accidentally picked such losers? Do you really think that Rove did such a lousy job that he didn’t have a single winner? Or is it just a tiny bit possible that he was 100% successful?
I’m not entirely sure, but I’m cynic enough to watch for signs that the fix is in and we’re screwed.
Romney most qualified? I doubt it. It’s just that Obama was the most unqualified candidate to ever run for president
Repeat –
Somehow, conservative reactions over the last few days reminded me of this scene . . .
Bron,
You might want to consider how badly Romney lost MA before talking about how “good he has done” in the past. Being a vulture capitalist is also not a positive qualification for someone who is supposed to help build an economy instead of dismantle one. Also consider that every other statement out of his mouth is a lie and that he has all the ethical backbone of a windsock.
I’m no Obama fan. I count him as bad as Bush. But Romney? There is no way in Hell that man should be allowed anywhere near the Office of the President based on his qualifications. A man’s pocketbook is a poor measure of the man. Always has been. Always will be. The word “fortune” means both “luck” and “wealth” for a reason. Whether or not the luck comes from hard work or not is irrelevant. The world is full of hard working people who live in poverty.
Mitt is lucky. He’s not good.
“can you honestly say had Romney won there would be no beating of chests on the left and wailing about the end of women’s rights and the president from the 1%?”
Bron,
that’s exactly why he lost.
I read somewhere that a few years ago Ted Kennedy gave Paul Begala a proven road map for beating Romney. Track down ex-Bain employees and let their stories of Romney’s disregard for labor undo his ambitions for public office. In 2012 Begala did just that and those commercials worked wonders for Obama.
Romney lost because he embraced the radical tea party side of what used to be called the Republican Party. I spoke to an official of a suburban Chicago GOP office and he told me he voted for Obama because Romney and Ryan’s plans were too harsh and he could not vote for such radical ideas.
Oro Lee
1, November 12, 2012 at 12:14 pm
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hahahahaha! snort, glee, hahahahahaha! best movie, yup, that’s what’s happening…!!!!!!!
Then, of course, they had the Aiken and Mourdock rape twins …
Honestly, it was like the perfect storm of everything that is wrong with the Republican Party coming together against the backdrop of Sandy calling up Bush’s Katrina memories.
Of course Bill Clinton out there with his 65% approval rating explaining Obama’s plan to go forward … something Obama couldn’t seem to do well at all … didn’t hurt. Even republicans listened to him.
WSC says IT TAKES SUPPORT FROM ALL SIDES WORKING TOGETHER!
When stuck between a 1% corporatist crocodile and its enabling pride of politicians and lobbyists, it’s time for the 99% to
Fight back. Stay together. Hold the line. Never,ever give up!
Here in Midland, Texas, we have a tea party guy, maybe a John Bircher–I don’t know, who flies his U.S. flag upside down for the past 4 years or so. His letters-to-the-editor in the Midland Reporter-Telegram are a parade of hyperbole and nuttiness.
orolee
1, November 12, 2012 at 1:07 pm
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that clip is priceless…..those beastalows figured something out about the ‘King of Beasts’……… picking on the smallest and the weakest and running in packs…. snort snort
Remember the audio clip of the remarks of the (now) President of Ireland, Michael D. Higgins — “just a wanker whipping up fear.”
Taking Pres. Higgins’ lead, I refer to activities and statements of folks who are tea-party members, republican radicals, fundamentalist conservatives and religious extremists, and climate change deniers to be the same –
JAWWWAR
Just Another Wanker Waging War Against Reality
Start at :43
rafflaw:
their ideas were too harsh?
What a jewel box here.
Great lesson on stick together and never, ever give up.
Higgins sure knows how to give a verbal spanking!
and Clarence Clearwater for dessert.
Can you imagine that buffalo talking to her grandkids about her adventures when she was young? 4 lions and a croc and your mom and dad and sisters rescued you. Yeh, gram, a likely story. Sure it wasn’t a lost cub and minnow?
On another thread we were considering the electoral college. JT, raff, and others want to do away with it. I’ve considered moving the electoral college to a proportional division based on congressional seats as it’s done in two states. I didn’t consider the gerrymandering that goes on in guaranteeing congressional seats every ten years depending on which party is in charge in the state legislature. Proportional is still better than winner-take-all but. This article considers the additional electoral votes that Romney would have won but doesn’t consider that he might also have lost a few.
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/14492-how-republicans-plan-to-rig-elections-in-2016
Last year, Pennsylvania’s Republican Gov. Tom Corbett proposed rigging the Electoral College vote in his state through a plan that would have given the majority of the state’s electors to Romney even after President Obama carried the state. Under Corbett’s plan, the winner of each congressional district within Pennsylvania would receive a single electoral vote, and the overall winner of the state would receive an additional two electoral votes. Had this plan been in place last Tuesday, Mitt Romney would likely have won 13 of the state’s 20 electoral votes, despite losing the state overall by more than five points.
Corbett’s election-rigging plan died, largely because Republican members of Congress in Pennsylvania feared that it would cause the Obama campaign to shift resources into their districts and endanger their own chances of being reelected. Now, however, Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted (R)- who spent much of 2012 inventing ways to prevent pro-Obama votes from being cast or counted – wants to revive this election rigging scheme. According to the Ohio political blog Plunderbund,
Husted’s solution to this perceived problem of Democrats and the national media picking on him? He says we should make Ohio less important in the election by dividing up our electoral votes by Congressional district.
This is huge and should raise giant red flags. Under the current winner-take-all system, Obama won all 18 of Ohio’s electoral votes. Under Husted’s plan, 12 of those 18 electoral votes would be handed to Mitt Romney, the popular vote loser.
As in Pennsylvania, Republicans gerrymandered Ohio within an inch of its life. Even though Obama won Ohio, Republicans carried 12 of 16 seats in Ohio’s House delegation. This gerrymander would have all but ensured that Romney carried the overwhelming majority of Ohio’s electoral votes, regardless of how he performed in the state overall.
Indeed, if the Corbett/Husted plan to rig the Electoral College had been law in several key Republican-controlled states that President Obama won last Tuesday, America would now be looking at a very different future. Assuming that Mitt Romney won every congressional district that elected a Republican House candidate in these key states, the Corbett/Husted plan would have given Romney 17 electoral votes in Florida, 9 in Michigan, 12 in Ohio, 13 in Pennsylvania, 8 in Virginia, and 5 in Wisconsin – for a total of 64 additional electoral votes.
Add those 64 votes to the 206 votes Romney won legitimately, and it adds up to exactly 270 – the amount he needed to win the White House.
bettykath,
the process of declaring electoral college votes on a district by district basis is just as bad as the electoral college itself. As your link suggests, the district plan could once again, elect the person with the least amount of direct votes. Why not just leave it up to the voters?
Obviously they consider themselves exclusively to be “America”, in which case their projection or “argument” is accurate enough to brand them.
Whenever the phrase “the American people” is used by those deniers it always translates into “the right wing people” …
In the 5 stages of grief (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance), the Tea Partiers are at stage 2.
In the 7 stages of grief (shock & denial, pain & guilt, anger & bargaining, depression/reflection/loneliness, the upward turn, reconstruction & working through, and acceptance & hope), they’re at stage 3.
In either case, resolution isn’t around the corner, yet … if ever.
A lot of Tea Party Republicans are just bitter because their country club applications were denied by Judge Smails.
“I’ve sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn’t want to do it. I felt I owed it to them. ” – Judge Smails