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	<title>Comments on: Carmen Ortiz: Prosecution for Political Ego?</title>
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		<title>By: Nal</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-490033</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.volokh.com/2013/01/28/us-attorney-carmen-ortiz-may-appeal-carswell-forfeiture-case/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Attorney Carmen Ortiz May Appeal Carswell Forfeiture Case&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;To some extent, I actually hope Ortiz does appeal. Given the extreme facts of the case (which I discussed here and here), it’s likely that the First Circuit Court of Appeals will reach the same conclusion as the trial court did. And unlike a district court decision, a court of appeals decision is binding precedent that lower courts in that region of the country must follow. But I also feel for the property owners here, who have already endured a three-year legal battle over an asset forfeiture action that should never have gotten started in the first place. Even with excellent pro bono legal representation by the Institute for Justice, they have likely gone through a painful ordeal that should not be extended any longer.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.volokh.com/2013/01/28/us-attorney-carmen-ortiz-may-appeal-carswell-forfeiture-case/" rel="nofollow">US Attorney Carmen Ortiz May Appeal Carswell Forfeiture Case</a></p>
<p><i>To some extent, I actually hope Ortiz does appeal. Given the extreme facts of the case (which I discussed here and here), it’s likely that the First Circuit Court of Appeals will reach the same conclusion as the trial court did. And unlike a district court decision, a court of appeals decision is binding precedent that lower courts in that region of the country must follow. But I also feel for the property owners here, who have already endured a three-year legal battle over an asset forfeiture action that should never have gotten started in the first place. Even with excellent pro bono legal representation by the Institute for Justice, they have likely gone through a painful ordeal that should not be extended any longer.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Nal</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-489908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/more-about-aaron-swartz-012813&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THE HIJACKING OF AARON SWARTZ&#039;S CASE&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;i&gt;in a piece for the Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly, veteran Boston civil liberties lawyer Harvey Silverglate revealed that the office of U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz only became involved with the case after the Middlesex County District Attorney&#039;s office was prepared to cut Swartz a deal on state charges that would have involved no jail time, perhaps a fine, and a stern admonishment not to do it again
...
Silverglate argues that Ortiz&#039;s office jumped the DA&#039;s claim in order to &quot;send a message.&quot; It&#039;s hard to see another explanation for it and, if it&#039;s true, and against all possible odds, the whole sorry episode is even more disgraceful.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/more-about-aaron-swartz-012813" rel="nofollow">THE HIJACKING OF AARON SWARTZ&#8217;S CASE</a> </p>
<p><i>in a piece for the Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly, veteran Boston civil liberties lawyer Harvey Silverglate revealed that the office of U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz only became involved with the case after the Middlesex County District Attorney&#8217;s office was prepared to cut Swartz a deal on state charges that would have involved no jail time, perhaps a fine, and a stern admonishment not to do it again<br />
&#8230;<br />
Silverglate argues that Ortiz&#8217;s office jumped the DA&#8217;s claim in order to &#8220;send a message.&#8221; It&#8217;s hard to see another explanation for it and, if it&#8217;s true, and against all possible odds, the whole sorry episode is even more disgraceful.</i></p>
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		<title>By: anonymously posted</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymously posted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-re-hacks-us-sentencing-site-into-video-game-asteroids-7000010384/    for the full article (just an excerpt above)]]></description>
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		<title>By: anonymously posted</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymously posted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anonymous re-hacks US Sentencing site into video game Asteroids

Summary: The U.S. Sentencing Commission website has been hacked a second time. A code distributed by Anonymous &quot;Operation Last Resort&quot; turns ussc.gov into a game of Asteroids.
Violet Blue

By Violet Blue for Zero Day &#124; January 28, 2013 -- 00:06 GMT (16:06 PST)

http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-re-hacks-us-sentencing-site-into-video-game-asteroids-7000010384/

The U.S. Sentencing Commission website has been hacked again and a code distributed by Anonymous &quot;Operation Last Resort&quot; turns ussc.gov into a playable video game.

Visitors enter the code, and then the website that sets guidelines for sentencing in United States Federal courts becomes &quot;Asteroids.&quot;
ussc asteroids anonymous

Shooting away at the ussc.gov webpage reveals an image of Anonymous. The trademark Anonymous &quot;Guy Fawkes&quot; face is comprised of white text saying, &quot;We do not forgive. We do not forget.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous re-hacks US Sentencing site into video game Asteroids</p>
<p>Summary: The U.S. Sentencing Commission website has been hacked a second time. A code distributed by Anonymous &#8220;Operation Last Resort&#8221; turns ussc.gov into a game of Asteroids.<br />
Violet Blue</p>
<p>By Violet Blue for Zero Day | January 28, 2013 &#8212; 00:06 GMT (16:06 PST)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-re-hacks-us-sentencing-site-into-video-game-asteroids-7000010384/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zdnet.com/anonymous-re-hacks-us-sentencing-site-into-video-game-asteroids-7000010384/</a></p>
<p>The U.S. Sentencing Commission website has been hacked again and a code distributed by Anonymous &#8220;Operation Last Resort&#8221; turns ussc.gov into a playable video game.</p>
<p>Visitors enter the code, and then the website that sets guidelines for sentencing in United States Federal courts becomes &#8220;Asteroids.&#8221;<br />
ussc asteroids anonymous</p>
<p>Shooting away at the ussc.gov webpage reveals an image of Anonymous. The trademark Anonymous &#8220;Guy Fawkes&#8221; face is comprised of white text saying, &#8220;We do not forgive. We do not forget.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bobbi</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-489353</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobbi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 02:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am looking forward to Anonymous&#039; war with the DOJ. 
Payback time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forward to Anonymous&#8217; war with the DOJ.<br />
Payback time.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice Holmes</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-489313</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justice Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neapolitano is a disgrace as the head of &quot;homeland&quot; security.  Unfortunately this dystopically name department is focused on something called The Homeland it has forgotten that actually human beings called Americans who used to have civil liberties and used to be innocent until proven guilty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neapolitano is a disgrace as the head of &#8220;homeland&#8221; security.  Unfortunately this dystopically name department is focused on something called The Homeland it has forgotten that actually human beings called Americans who used to have civil liberties and used to be innocent until proven guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: idealist707</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-489245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[idealist707]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hope is what brings us here.

ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz!   It is 1130 PM.  Taking my cold to bed.  Outpatient check tomorrow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope is what brings us here.</p>
<p>ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz!   It is 1130 PM.  Taking my cold to bed.  Outpatient check tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: idealist707</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[idealist707]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watching shyly the big elephants&#039; parading around the clearing, I ask are there more clearings like this with more trumpeting elephants, or is this the only one?

I agree a thousand times.  but what do we do other than come here for comfort and to vent our bile?
We have a brief period of traction thanks to Aaron&#039;s impact on media, ie internet.  Now they have an even eviler followup to SOPA.   Aaron is not here to defeat it.

All  that was said so far is basicly good and valid.   Whatever.

But here I come again, and ask:  WTF do we do about it?

Anybody organizing immolations on Congress&#039; steps today.  How do we kill these varmints, fleas, pests, without being killed in return.   They  have the retaliation machine down pat now.  Anyone doubt that?
  
The system is now like the NKVD/KGB:   Give us a body and we will build a case against it.    And a case always was executed or sentenced to Siberia.

Any wonder why no one then dared not smile.   &quot;Are you dissatisfied, little friend?&quot;  &quot;Forgive me,  I was just a bit depressed over my mother&#039;s death.&quot;

&quot; Help, I need somebody&quot;!

Yours truly, the ultimate defeatist]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching shyly the big elephants&#8217; parading around the clearing, I ask are there more clearings like this with more trumpeting elephants, or is this the only one?</p>
<p>I agree a thousand times.  but what do we do other than come here for comfort and to vent our bile?<br />
We have a brief period of traction thanks to Aaron&#8217;s impact on media, ie internet.  Now they have an even eviler followup to SOPA.   Aaron is not here to defeat it.</p>
<p>All  that was said so far is basicly good and valid.   Whatever.</p>
<p>But here I come again, and ask:  WTF do we do about it?</p>
<p>Anybody organizing immolations on Congress&#8217; steps today.  How do we kill these varmints, fleas, pests, without being killed in return.   They  have the retaliation machine down pat now.  Anyone doubt that?</p>
<p>The system is now like the NKVD/KGB:   Give us a body and we will build a case against it.    And a case always was executed or sentenced to Siberia.</p>
<p>Any wonder why no one then dared not smile.   &#8220;Are you dissatisfied, little friend?&#8221;  &#8220;Forgive me,  I was just a bit depressed over my mother&#8217;s death.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8221; Help, I need somebody&#8221;!</p>
<p>Yours truly, the ultimate defeatist</p>
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		<title>By: anonymously posted</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymously posted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As has become more clear with Obama as president, the Justice Department is willing to zealously go after leakers who did no harm to national security. They are willing to zealously pursue Internet activists like Aaron Swartz. They will keep coming back with more and more charges to scare activists into informing on others or taking a plea deal.  - Kevin Gosztola

CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou, Sentenced to 30 Months in Jail, Wears Conviction as ‘Badge of Honor’

By: Kevin Gosztola Friday January 25, 2013 10:11 am 	

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/01/25/cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakou-sentenced-to-30-months-in-jail-wears-conviction-as-badge-of-honor/

Lanny Breuer, the head of the criminal division of the Justice Department, and MacBride both had a role in going after Kiriakou. They currently pride themselves on the work they’ve done going after people like Kiriakou. The government has already invoked Kiriakou’s conviction in the case of Pfc. Bradley Manning, the soldier accused of releasing classified information to WikiLeaks. What they accomplished with his case gives them the potential to restrain the ability of future targets of government prosecution to mount a defense.

To this, Kiriakou reacted:

    I don’t think I am overstating this when I say I feel like we’re entering a second McCarthy era where the Justice Department uses the law as a fist or as a hammer not just to try and convict people but to ruin them personally and professionally because they don’t like where they stand on different issues.

    I know Lanny Breuer. Lanny Breuer’s my former attorney from the Scooter Libby case but I think that Lanny Breuer became a zealot when he went to the Justice Department and he drank the Justice Department’s anti-whistleblower kool-aid. And I think we see the same thing with Neil McBride in the way he’s targeting WikiLeaks with a grand jury when in fact he should be targeting the bankers who have ruined our country and the crooked politicians who shirk their responsibilities to oversee the intelligence community.

Though he is going to jail, Kiriakou stated, “I am wearing my conviction as a badge of honor.”

    I am proud that I stood up to our government. I stood up for what I believed was right conviction or no conviction. I mean they can convict anybody of anything if they put their minds to it, but I wear this as a badge of honor. I am not a criminal. I am a whistleblower. The thing that I blew the whistle on is now the law of the land. Torture is illegal and it’s officially abandoned in our country and I’m proud to have had a role in that.

The only CIA officer to go to jail for torture is now officially an officer who never tortured anybody

 As has become more clear with Obama as president, the Justice Department is willing to zealously go after leakers who did no harm to national security. They are willing to zealously pursue Internet activists like Aaron Swartz. They will keep coming back with more and more charges to scare activists into informing on others or taking a plea deal. They may even join in the prosecution of some fallen sports icon for their posterity.

However, individuals involved in committing the felony of warrantless wiretapping or authorizing torture or senior-level bankers on Wall Street, who committed fraud and fueled the 2008 economic meltdown may move forward with their lives and never worry about going to jail. They are criminals the Justice Department lacks the courage to prosecute, or people the department does not think committed any crimes. And, as a result, those inside the department cannot be bothered to put in the kind of rabid effort they devote to prosecuting whistleblowers or activists, who in comparison to bankers or torturers have done nothing to hurt anybody.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has become more clear with Obama as president, the Justice Department is willing to zealously go after leakers who did no harm to national security. They are willing to zealously pursue Internet activists like Aaron Swartz. They will keep coming back with more and more charges to scare activists into informing on others or taking a plea deal.  &#8211; Kevin Gosztola</p>
<p>CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou, Sentenced to 30 Months in Jail, Wears Conviction as ‘Badge of Honor’</p>
<p>By: Kevin Gosztola Friday January 25, 2013 10:11 am 	</p>
<p><a href="http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/01/25/cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakou-sentenced-to-30-months-in-jail-wears-conviction-as-badge-of-honor/" rel="nofollow">http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/01/25/cia-whistleblower-john-kiriakou-sentenced-to-30-months-in-jail-wears-conviction-as-badge-of-honor/</a></p>
<p>Lanny Breuer, the head of the criminal division of the Justice Department, and MacBride both had a role in going after Kiriakou. They currently pride themselves on the work they’ve done going after people like Kiriakou. The government has already invoked Kiriakou’s conviction in the case of Pfc. Bradley Manning, the soldier accused of releasing classified information to WikiLeaks. What they accomplished with his case gives them the potential to restrain the ability of future targets of government prosecution to mount a defense.</p>
<p>To this, Kiriakou reacted:</p>
<p>    I don’t think I am overstating this when I say I feel like we’re entering a second McCarthy era where the Justice Department uses the law as a fist or as a hammer not just to try and convict people but to ruin them personally and professionally because they don’t like where they stand on different issues.</p>
<p>    I know Lanny Breuer. Lanny Breuer’s my former attorney from the Scooter Libby case but I think that Lanny Breuer became a zealot when he went to the Justice Department and he drank the Justice Department’s anti-whistleblower kool-aid. And I think we see the same thing with Neil McBride in the way he’s targeting WikiLeaks with a grand jury when in fact he should be targeting the bankers who have ruined our country and the crooked politicians who shirk their responsibilities to oversee the intelligence community.</p>
<p>Though he is going to jail, Kiriakou stated, “I am wearing my conviction as a badge of honor.”</p>
<p>    I am proud that I stood up to our government. I stood up for what I believed was right conviction or no conviction. I mean they can convict anybody of anything if they put their minds to it, but I wear this as a badge of honor. I am not a criminal. I am a whistleblower. The thing that I blew the whistle on is now the law of the land. Torture is illegal and it’s officially abandoned in our country and I’m proud to have had a role in that.</p>
<p>The only CIA officer to go to jail for torture is now officially an officer who never tortured anybody</p>
<p> As has become more clear with Obama as president, the Justice Department is willing to zealously go after leakers who did no harm to national security. They are willing to zealously pursue Internet activists like Aaron Swartz. They will keep coming back with more and more charges to scare activists into informing on others or taking a plea deal. They may even join in the prosecution of some fallen sports icon for their posterity.</p>
<p>However, individuals involved in committing the felony of warrantless wiretapping or authorizing torture or senior-level bankers on Wall Street, who committed fraud and fueled the 2008 economic meltdown may move forward with their lives and never worry about going to jail. They are criminals the Justice Department lacks the courage to prosecute, or people the department does not think committed any crimes. And, as a result, those inside the department cannot be bothered to put in the kind of rabid effort they devote to prosecuting whistleblowers or activists, who in comparison to bankers or torturers have done nothing to hurt anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymously posted</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well since you mentioned Lennon, I&#039;m reminded of &quot;The U.S. vs John Lennon&quot;...

http://www.lennonfbifiles.com/usversusjl.html

CIA-FBI Cooperation: The Case of John Lennon

by Jon Wiener
Posted: September 27, 2006

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-wiener/ciafbi-cooperation-the-ca_b_30421.html?

Excerpt:

&quot;Another document provides the source of the Agency&#039;s information: CIA Operation CHAOS. It was secret, illegal program of surveillance of domestic political dissent - a violation of the CIA charter. The Agency sent intelligence reports on antiwar activists first to President Johnson and later to Nixon, as well as to Henry Kissinger and John Dean. Under Nixon, the CHAOS program was expanded to 60 agents. Its existence was documented in 1976 by the Senate&#039;s &quot;Church Committee,&quot; which investigated CIA and FBI misconduct and was headed by Idaho Senator Frank Church.

Fast-forward to the summer of 2000, when, according to the 9-11 Commission, the CIA had the names of two men who would become hijackers on 9-11 -- Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi -- but somehow the FBI failed to get the information and/or investigate them. The problem: how to get the CIA and FBI to share information about future al-Mihdhars, but stop the CIA and FBI from sharing information about future John Lennons?

The Church Committee Final Report, issued in 1976, addressed this problem in a way that is remarkably relevant today. Their basic conclusion: &quot;intelligence activities have undermined constitutional rights . . . primarily because checks and balances designed by the framers of the Constitution to assure accountability have not been applied.&quot; The problem is greater &quot;in time of crisis,&quot; when &quot;the distinction between legal dissent and criminal conduct is easily forgotten.&quot;

Yes, the Church Committee worked before the US became the target of terrorist attack. But they understood one key principle: &quot;Unlike totalitarian states, we do not believe that any government has a monopoly on truth.&quot; Therefore challenging official policies and arguments is crucial to a democratic society. No one should have to &quot;weigh his or her desire to express an opinion, or join a group, against the risk of having lawful speech or association used against him.&quot;

The Church Committee made 95 recommendations. Number one: Congress must &quot;make clear to the Executive branch that it will not condone, and does not accept, any theory of inherent or implied authority to violate the Constitution.&quot;

When Lennon made plans for &quot;a caravan of entertainers,&quot; he wasn&#039;t conspiring to engage in terrorism or other criminal acts. All he was saying was give peace a chance. Thirty years ago the Church Committee argued that Congress should create strong safeguards to prevent &quot;interagency sharing of intelligence information&quot; from violating fundamental rights. We need those safeguards today more than ever.

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Jon Wiener is professor of history at the University of California, Irvine, author of Gimme Some Truth: The John Lennon FBI File, and historical consultant on the documentary &quot;The US vs. John Lennon.&quot;


(Operation CHAOS, then.  One of these days, perhaps we&#039;ll learn about the program/s that replaced CHAOS.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well since you mentioned Lennon, I&#8217;m reminded of &#8220;The U.S. vs John Lennon&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lennonfbifiles.com/usversusjl.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lennonfbifiles.com/usversusjl.html</a></p>
<p>CIA-FBI Cooperation: The Case of John Lennon</p>
<p>by Jon Wiener<br />
Posted: September 27, 2006</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-wiener/ciafbi-cooperation-the-ca_b_30421.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-wiener/ciafbi-cooperation-the-ca_b_30421.html</a>?</p>
<p>Excerpt:</p>
<p>&#8220;Another document provides the source of the Agency&#8217;s information: CIA Operation CHAOS. It was secret, illegal program of surveillance of domestic political dissent &#8211; a violation of the CIA charter. The Agency sent intelligence reports on antiwar activists first to President Johnson and later to Nixon, as well as to Henry Kissinger and John Dean. Under Nixon, the CHAOS program was expanded to 60 agents. Its existence was documented in 1976 by the Senate&#8217;s &#8220;Church Committee,&#8221; which investigated CIA and FBI misconduct and was headed by Idaho Senator Frank Church.</p>
<p>Fast-forward to the summer of 2000, when, according to the 9-11 Commission, the CIA had the names of two men who would become hijackers on 9-11 &#8212; Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi &#8212; but somehow the FBI failed to get the information and/or investigate them. The problem: how to get the CIA and FBI to share information about future al-Mihdhars, but stop the CIA and FBI from sharing information about future John Lennons?</p>
<p>The Church Committee Final Report, issued in 1976, addressed this problem in a way that is remarkably relevant today. Their basic conclusion: &#8220;intelligence activities have undermined constitutional rights . . . primarily because checks and balances designed by the framers of the Constitution to assure accountability have not been applied.&#8221; The problem is greater &#8220;in time of crisis,&#8221; when &#8220;the distinction between legal dissent and criminal conduct is easily forgotten.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, the Church Committee worked before the US became the target of terrorist attack. But they understood one key principle: &#8220;Unlike totalitarian states, we do not believe that any government has a monopoly on truth.&#8221; Therefore challenging official policies and arguments is crucial to a democratic society. No one should have to &#8220;weigh his or her desire to express an opinion, or join a group, against the risk of having lawful speech or association used against him.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Church Committee made 95 recommendations. Number one: Congress must &#8220;make clear to the Executive branch that it will not condone, and does not accept, any theory of inherent or implied authority to violate the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>When Lennon made plans for &#8220;a caravan of entertainers,&#8221; he wasn&#8217;t conspiring to engage in terrorism or other criminal acts. All he was saying was give peace a chance. Thirty years ago the Church Committee argued that Congress should create strong safeguards to prevent &#8220;interagency sharing of intelligence information&#8221; from violating fundamental rights. We need those safeguards today more than ever.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Jon Wiener is professor of history at the University of California, Irvine, author of Gimme Some Truth: The John Lennon FBI File, and historical consultant on the documentary &#8220;The US vs. John Lennon.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Operation CHAOS, then.  One of these days, perhaps we&#8217;ll learn about the program/s that replaced CHAOS.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I do not see that as a reason to despair, I see it as an engineering constraint in finding a solution. The objective (to me) is to find the balance between minimizing the impact of sociopaths while retaining the rights and liberty intended by the Constitution.&quot;

Tony,

I do view the problem of sociopathic behavior the same as you do and think it the root cause of human societal dysfunction. Psychologically though, we all have our personal ways of dealing with life optimally. For some it is retreating into religious or jingoistic mythology and taking comfort in denying reality. We both refuse to do that in our lives and are sophisticated enough to not buy into propaganda and/or mythology. That we choose different means of dealing with this stark reality of the world represents merely a difference of personality with no judgment needed as to which works better. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNNxeovdN5U]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do not see that as a reason to despair, I see it as an engineering constraint in finding a solution. The objective (to me) is to find the balance between minimizing the impact of sociopaths while retaining the rights and liberty intended by the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tony,</p>
<p>I do view the problem of sociopathic behavior the same as you do and think it the root cause of human societal dysfunction. Psychologically though, we all have our personal ways of dealing with life optimally. For some it is retreating into religious or jingoistic mythology and taking comfort in denying reality. We both refuse to do that in our lives and are sophisticated enough to not buy into propaganda and/or mythology. That we choose different means of dealing with this stark reality of the world represents merely a difference of personality with no judgment needed as to which works better. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='500' height='312' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/HNNxeovdN5U?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Tragedy intervened when Ortiz’s office took over the case to send “a message.” 

Elaine,

That idea of &quot;sending a message&quot; has reverberated with this case and indeed in other instances of prosecutorial overreach. If you think about it what exactly does that mean and what sort of stupid theory of prosecution is it?
Back in 1600&#039;s England pickpockets caught were hung. Yet there is ample evidence that pickpocketing was rampant at public hangings. We are assured by death penalty advocates that it serves as a deterrent, yet murder continues apace. &quot;Sending a message&quot; is merely propaganda speak to justify persecution by prosecution. Aaron wasn&#039;t a criminal, he was an activist. So Ms.Ortiz message was really give up your opposition to government policy.

&quot;Not only was it noted that there were only 15 drug-related incidents over a 15 year period (during which 196,000 rooms were rented out), but also, the motel owners worked closely with local police to deal with drug issues and that other local businesses that had drug incidents were not targeted by Ortiz.&quot;

Given this I suspect there is still more to this prosecution than meets the eye. Was the motel&#039;s land somehow valuable to someone with power? Had the owned &quot;pissed off&quot; someone in power. Beyond the silliness of the prosecution I suspect there may have been some other motive that drove Ms.Ortiz in this case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tragedy intervened when Ortiz’s office took over the case to send “a message.” </p>
<p>Elaine,</p>
<p>That idea of &#8220;sending a message&#8221; has reverberated with this case and indeed in other instances of prosecutorial overreach. If you think about it what exactly does that mean and what sort of stupid theory of prosecution is it?<br />
Back in 1600&#8242;s England pickpockets caught were hung. Yet there is ample evidence that pickpocketing was rampant at public hangings. We are assured by death penalty advocates that it serves as a deterrent, yet murder continues apace. &#8220;Sending a message&#8221; is merely propaganda speak to justify persecution by prosecution. Aaron wasn&#8217;t a criminal, he was an activist. So Ms.Ortiz message was really give up your opposition to government policy.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not only was it noted that there were only 15 drug-related incidents over a 15 year period (during which 196,000 rooms were rented out), but also, the motel owners worked closely with local police to deal with drug issues and that other local businesses that had drug incidents were not targeted by Ortiz.&#8221;</p>
<p>Given this I suspect there is still more to this prosecution than meets the eye. Was the motel&#8217;s land somehow valuable to someone with power? Had the owned &#8220;pissed off&#8221; someone in power. Beyond the silliness of the prosecution I suspect there may have been some other motive that drove Ms.Ortiz in this case.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elaine, the worse things continue to look, the more likely it is that the  wagons will be circled or, OMG, this stinkin trail could lead right up to Eric Holder&#039;s  door, and maybe higher!  Maybe Ms. Ortiz will just find this a propitious time to retire from her office to spend more time with the family.  Heymann however, is too young for that.  He may be a poison pill around Boston.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaine, the worse things continue to look, the more likely it is that the  wagons will be circled or, OMG, this stinkin trail could lead right up to Eric Holder&#8217;s  door, and maybe higher!  Maybe Ms. Ortiz will just find this a propitious time to retire from her office to spend more time with the family.  Heymann however, is too young for that.  He may be a poison pill around Boston.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine M.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elaine M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,

A New Twist in Carmen Ortiz&#039;s Vendetta Against Aaron Swartz
By TechDirt, Sat, January 26, 2013
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/technology/aaron-swartz-unlikely-face-jail-or-conviction-until-feds-decided-send-message

Things just keep looking worse and worse in the Carmen Ortiz, Stephen Heymann vendetta against Aaron Swartz.
 
Now it&#039;s come out that state prosecutors, who were originally looking into the case had no interest in pursuing felony charges or prison time... until Carmen Ortiz and her team showed up. Instead, state prosecutors had focused on the initial charges: &quot;breaking and entering in the daytime&quot; which they expected &quot;would be continued without a finding, with Swartz duly admonished and then returned to civil society to continue his pioneering electronic work in a less legally questionable manner.&quot; Instead, the report notes:

Tragedy intervened when Ortiz’s office took over the case to send “a message.” 

In case you were wondering what &quot;continued without a finding&quot; means, Harvey Silvergate (author of Three Felonies a Day) explained to Declan McCullagh:
 
&quot;Continuance without a finding&quot; was the anticipated disposition of the case were the charge to remain in state court, with the Middlesex County District Attorney to prosecute it. Under such a disposition, the charge is held in abeyance (&quot;continued&quot;) without any verdict (&quot;without a finding&quot;). The defendant is on probation for a period of a few months up to maybe a couple of years at the most; if the defendant does not get into further legal trouble, the charge is dismissed, and the defendant has no criminal record. This is what the lawyers expected to happen when Swartz was arrested for &quot;trespassing at MIT.&quot; But then the feds took over the case, and the rest is tragic history. 

The report above also notes that Ortiz is in some additional hot water, as another one of her overreach cases, involving an attempt to seize a family-owned motel in Massachusetts by claiming that it was &quot;facilitating drug crimes&quot; has failed miserably, tossed out by the magistrate judge.
 
Not only was it noted that there were only 15 drug-related incidents over a 15 year period (during which 196,000 rooms were rented out), but also, the motel owners worked closely with local police to deal with drug issues and that other local businesses that had drug incidents were not targeted by Ortiz.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>A New Twist in Carmen Ortiz&#8217;s Vendetta Against Aaron Swartz<br />
By TechDirt, Sat, January 26, 2013<br />
<a href="http://www.opposingviews.com/i/technology/aaron-swartz-unlikely-face-jail-or-conviction-until-feds-decided-send-message" rel="nofollow">http://www.opposingviews.com/i/technology/aaron-swartz-unlikely-face-jail-or-conviction-until-feds-decided-send-message</a></p>
<p>Things just keep looking worse and worse in the Carmen Ortiz, Stephen Heymann vendetta against Aaron Swartz.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s come out that state prosecutors, who were originally looking into the case had no interest in pursuing felony charges or prison time&#8230; until Carmen Ortiz and her team showed up. Instead, state prosecutors had focused on the initial charges: &#8220;breaking and entering in the daytime&#8221; which they expected &#8220;would be continued without a finding, with Swartz duly admonished and then returned to civil society to continue his pioneering electronic work in a less legally questionable manner.&#8221; Instead, the report notes:</p>
<p>Tragedy intervened when Ortiz’s office took over the case to send “a message.” </p>
<p>In case you were wondering what &#8220;continued without a finding&#8221; means, Harvey Silvergate (author of Three Felonies a Day) explained to Declan McCullagh:</p>
<p>&#8220;Continuance without a finding&#8221; was the anticipated disposition of the case were the charge to remain in state court, with the Middlesex County District Attorney to prosecute it. Under such a disposition, the charge is held in abeyance (&#8220;continued&#8221;) without any verdict (&#8220;without a finding&#8221;). The defendant is on probation for a period of a few months up to maybe a couple of years at the most; if the defendant does not get into further legal trouble, the charge is dismissed, and the defendant has no criminal record. This is what the lawyers expected to happen when Swartz was arrested for &#8220;trespassing at MIT.&#8221; But then the feds took over the case, and the rest is tragic history. </p>
<p>The report above also notes that Ortiz is in some additional hot water, as another one of her overreach cases, involving an attempt to seize a family-owned motel in Massachusetts by claiming that it was &#8220;facilitating drug crimes&#8221; has failed miserably, tossed out by the magistrate judge.</p>
<p>Not only was it noted that there were only 15 drug-related incidents over a 15 year period (during which 196,000 rooms were rented out), but also, the motel owners worked closely with local police to deal with drug issues and that other local businesses that had drug incidents were not targeted by Ortiz.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony C.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike: As always, I think denying the cold reality does more harm than good. In this particular case, I believe it is important to understand that our societal ills are almost always flowing from the poisoned spring of sociopathy, both the biological kind and the &quot;effective sociopathy&quot; brought about by non-sociopathic businessmen and politicians making decisions on abstract data while personally far removed from the devastating impacts their decisions will have on living people.

To me, any solutions that do not address that continuing fount of ruthless exploitation will only treat the symptoms; and like water the sociopaths will just find another crack to seep into, another path around the obstacle.

I do not see that as a reason to despair, I see it as an engineering constraint in finding a solution. The objective (to me) is to find the balance between minimizing the impact of sociopaths while retaining the rights and liberty intended by the Constitution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: As always, I think denying the cold reality does more harm than good. In this particular case, I believe it is important to understand that our societal ills are almost always flowing from the poisoned spring of sociopathy, both the biological kind and the &#8220;effective sociopathy&#8221; brought about by non-sociopathic businessmen and politicians making decisions on abstract data while personally far removed from the devastating impacts their decisions will have on living people.</p>
<p>To me, any solutions that do not address that continuing fount of ruthless exploitation will only treat the symptoms; and like water the sociopaths will just find another crack to seep into, another path around the obstacle.</p>
<p>I do not see that as a reason to despair, I see it as an engineering constraint in finding a solution. The objective (to me) is to find the balance between minimizing the impact of sociopaths while retaining the rights and liberty intended by the Constitution.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Refer to previous comments (Homeland Security’s Napolitano invokes 9/11 to push for CISPA 2.0)

Activist decries CISPA as ‘a Patriot Act for the Internet’

By Muriel Kane
Sunday, April 29, 2012 18:10 EST

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/29/activist-decries-cispa-as-a-patriot-act-for-the-internet/

According to Internet activist Aaron Swartz, the proposed Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), which passed the House of Representatives this week, is even worse than the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) that was sidelined by a public outcry last winter.

Swartz told Russia Today that whereas SOPA was exclusively “about giving the government the power to censor the Internet,” CISPA has the same kind of censorship provisions but “is more like a Patriot Act for the Internet.”

“It sort of lets the government run roughshod over privacy protections and share personal data about you,” he explained, “take it from Facebook and Internet providers and use it without the normal privacy protections that are in the law. … It’s an incredibly broad and dangerous bill.”

“The thing about this bill is it doesn’t really have any protections against cyber threats,” Swartz added. “All it does is make people share their information. But that’s not going to solve the problem. What’s going to solve the problem is actual security measures, protecting the service in the first place, not spying on people after the fact.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refer to previous comments (Homeland Security’s Napolitano invokes 9/11 to push for CISPA 2.0)</p>
<p>Activist decries CISPA as ‘a Patriot Act for the Internet’</p>
<p>By Muriel Kane<br />
Sunday, April 29, 2012 18:10 EST</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/29/activist-decries-cispa-as-a-patriot-act-for-the-internet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/29/activist-decries-cispa-as-a-patriot-act-for-the-internet/</a></p>
<p>According to Internet activist Aaron Swartz, the proposed Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), which passed the House of Representatives this week, is even worse than the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) that was sidelined by a public outcry last winter.</p>
<p>Swartz told Russia Today that whereas SOPA was exclusively “about giving the government the power to censor the Internet,” CISPA has the same kind of censorship provisions but “is more like a Patriot Act for the Internet.”</p>
<p>“It sort of lets the government run roughshod over privacy protections and share personal data about you,” he explained, “take it from Facebook and Internet providers and use it without the normal privacy protections that are in the law. … It’s an incredibly broad and dangerous bill.”</p>
<p>“The thing about this bill is it doesn’t really have any protections against cyber threats,” Swartz added. “All it does is make people share their information. But that’s not going to solve the problem. What’s going to solve the problem is actual security measures, protecting the service in the first place, not spying on people after the fact.”</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a Reuter&#039;s link, for those who don&#039;t like RT.

Napolitano warns of risk of major cyber attack

Published: January 24, 2013 9:22 PM

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/napolitano-warns-of-risk-of-major-cyber-attack-1.4506564]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a Reuter&#8217;s link, for those who don&#8217;t like RT.</p>
<p>Napolitano warns of risk of major cyber attack</p>
<p>Published: January 24, 2013 9:22 PM</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/napolitano-warns-of-risk-of-major-cyber-attack-1.4506564" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/napolitano-warns-of-risk-of-major-cyber-attack-1.4506564</a></p>
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		<title>By: anonymously posted</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymously posted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the FDL link, DonS.



Homeland Security’s Napolitano invokes 9/11 to push for CISPA 2.0

Published: 25 January, 2013, 21:33

http://rt.com/usa/news/napolitano-us-cyber-attack-761/

“In an attempt to scare the public with a looming cyber attack on US infrastructure, US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is once again pushing Congress to pass legislation allowing the government to have greater control over the Internet.

Napolitano issued the warnings Thursday, claiming that inaction could result in a “cyber 9/11” attack that could knock out water, electricity and gas, causing destruction similar to that left behind by Hurricane Sandy.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the FDL link, DonS.</p>
<p>Homeland Security’s Napolitano invokes 9/11 to push for CISPA 2.0</p>
<p>Published: 25 January, 2013, 21:33</p>
<p><a href="http://rt.com/usa/news/napolitano-us-cyber-attack-761/" rel="nofollow">http://rt.com/usa/news/napolitano-us-cyber-attack-761/</a></p>
<p>“In an attempt to scare the public with a looming cyber attack on US infrastructure, US Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is once again pushing Congress to pass legislation allowing the government to have greater control over the Internet.</p>
<p>Napolitano issued the warnings Thursday, claiming that inaction could result in a “cyber 9/11” attack that could knock out water, electricity and gas, causing destruction similar to that left behind by Hurricane Sandy.”</p>
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		<title>By: DonS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DonS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The corporatists were out to destroy Schwartz and, with the action of a rabid prosecution team, they did:

&quot;Swartz is dead now but a question remains for all of us at the end of the story. What is really against the law in America – hacking or activism?&quot;

http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/01/27/steve-jobs-mark-zuckerberg-aaron-swartz/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corporatists were out to destroy Schwartz and, with the action of a rabid prosecution team, they did:</p>
<p>&#8220;Swartz is dead now but a question remains for all of us at the end of the story. What is really against the law in America – hacking or activism?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/01/27/steve-jobs-mark-zuckerberg-aaron-swartz/" rel="nofollow">http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/01/27/steve-jobs-mark-zuckerberg-aaron-swartz/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A link to an article that is on point to this discussion talks about the inequity in the prosecution crime and in punishment of crime when it comes to Wall Street.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-m-kelleher/crime-and-no-punishment_b_2533318.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A link to an article that is on point to this discussion talks about the inequity in the prosecution crime and in punishment of crime when it comes to Wall Street.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-m-kelleher/crime-and-no-punishment_b_2533318.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-m-kelleher/crime-and-no-punishment_b_2533318.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-489074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The last “offer” issued by the US attorney demanded six months of jail time. Has anyone ever served a day for unauthorized use of MITs computer facilities? I doubt it — and certainly not someone who served as a Harvard fellow, as Swartz did.&quot;

The terror induced in Aaron from &quot;even&quot; a six month jail sentence must have been unbearable. I&#039;ve written before about the 8 hours I spent in a jail cell because I lacked $10 to make $25 bail on a minor traffic violation in Suffolk County, NY. Those 8 hours, naked in a bare jail cell, seemed an eternity. Many who have never experienced even the mild inconvenience I suffered, are blissfully ignorant of how imprisonment acts upon ones mind and fears. Aaron&#039;s terror was not groundless and his potential punishment was torture, especially considering the nature of his &quot;crime&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The last “offer” issued by the US attorney demanded six months of jail time. Has anyone ever served a day for unauthorized use of MITs computer facilities? I doubt it — and certainly not someone who served as a Harvard fellow, as Swartz did.&#8221;</p>
<p>The terror induced in Aaron from &#8220;even&#8221; a six month jail sentence must have been unbearable. I&#8217;ve written before about the 8 hours I spent in a jail cell because I lacked $10 to make $25 bail on a minor traffic violation in Suffolk County, NY. Those 8 hours, naked in a bare jail cell, seemed an eternity. Many who have never experienced even the mild inconvenience I suffered, are blissfully ignorant of how imprisonment acts upon ones mind and fears. Aaron&#8217;s terror was not groundless and his potential punishment was torture, especially considering the nature of his &#8220;crime&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Author and professor Susan Crawford, Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig, and the Up with Chris Hayes panel reflect on Internet piracy, the difference between physical and intellectual property, and the causes that Aaron Swartz was committed to.&quot;

Elaine,

Thank you again for this further material. Internet Piracy, Intellectual Property and copyright encroachments are major issues in the battle to regain our freedom. With a mainstream media and press in corporate control, the internet has become the most powerful tool for dissemination of information that counters propaganda. This is every bit as crucial a battle as any other issue, because if lost, the ability to communicate dissent becomes lost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Author and professor Susan Crawford, Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig, and the Up with Chris Hayes panel reflect on Internet piracy, the difference between physical and intellectual property, and the causes that Aaron Swartz was committed to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Elaine,</p>
<p>Thank you again for this further material. Internet Piracy, Intellectual Property and copyright encroachments are major issues in the battle to regain our freedom. With a mainstream media and press in corporate control, the internet has become the most powerful tool for dissemination of information that counters propaganda. This is every bit as crucial a battle as any other issue, because if lost, the ability to communicate dissent becomes lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine M.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elaine M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carmen Ortiz&#039;s Very Bad, Awful Month
By Charles P. Pierce
1/25/13
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/More_bad_News_For_Carmen_Ortiz

It has not been the best 2013 so far for Carmen Ortiz, the U.S. Attorney in Boston and once-rising political star in the firmament of the Commonwealth (God save it!). First, her office relentlessly pursues Internet activist Aaron Swartz for a crime that the purported &quot;victim&quot; said was no big deal, guaranteeing that any attempt she makes at running for anything ever will have every hacker in the universe attached to its hindquarters. (To say nothing of congresscritters , who are drafting bills in response, and retired federal judges.) And now, as she&#039;s still being fitted for the role of Inspector Javert, another one of her signature hardball prosecutions blows up in her face.

    The feds first tried to grab Caswell&#039;s property in 2009 under drug seizure laws, citing numerous drug busts at the motel. Caswell&#039;s defense team argued that he was not responsible for what guests did. And his lawyers found there was actually more drug activity at nearby businesses, and theorized the government was going after Caswell, who has no criminal record, because his mortgage-free property is worth more than $1 million...In a written decision after a November trial, U.S. Magistrate Judge Judith Gail Dein dismissed the government&#039;s forfeiture action, ruling yesterday that Caswell, &quot;who was trying to eke out an income from a business located in a drug-infested area that posed great risks to the safety of him and his family,&quot; took all reasonable steps to prevent crime. &quot;The Government&#039;s resolution of the crime problem should not be to simply take his Property,&quot; Dein said in her decision.

Civil forfeiture is one of the truly odious products of the war on certain kind of drugs, wide open for corruption and for prosecutorial flexing. If it is allowed to exist at all, the whole system should be re-examined and placed under strict regulation and oversight. Russ Caswell got lucky. He had good lawyers. If nothing else, the whole thing should be a reason to examine the powers we so willingly cede to our prosecutors in order to keep us &quot;safe&quot; from the many vague threats that the government finds so helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carmen Ortiz&#8217;s Very Bad, Awful Month<br />
By Charles P. Pierce<br />
1/25/13<br />
<a href="http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/More_bad_News_For_Carmen_Ortiz" rel="nofollow">http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/More_bad_News_For_Carmen_Ortiz</a></p>
<p>It has not been the best 2013 so far for Carmen Ortiz, the U.S. Attorney in Boston and once-rising political star in the firmament of the Commonwealth (God save it!). First, her office relentlessly pursues Internet activist Aaron Swartz for a crime that the purported &#8220;victim&#8221; said was no big deal, guaranteeing that any attempt she makes at running for anything ever will have every hacker in the universe attached to its hindquarters. (To say nothing of congresscritters , who are drafting bills in response, and retired federal judges.) And now, as she&#8217;s still being fitted for the role of Inspector Javert, another one of her signature hardball prosecutions blows up in her face.</p>
<p>    The feds first tried to grab Caswell&#8217;s property in 2009 under drug seizure laws, citing numerous drug busts at the motel. Caswell&#8217;s defense team argued that he was not responsible for what guests did. And his lawyers found there was actually more drug activity at nearby businesses, and theorized the government was going after Caswell, who has no criminal record, because his mortgage-free property is worth more than $1 million&#8230;In a written decision after a November trial, U.S. Magistrate Judge Judith Gail Dein dismissed the government&#8217;s forfeiture action, ruling yesterday that Caswell, &#8220;who was trying to eke out an income from a business located in a drug-infested area that posed great risks to the safety of him and his family,&#8221; took all reasonable steps to prevent crime. &#8220;The Government&#8217;s resolution of the crime problem should not be to simply take his Property,&#8221; Dein said in her decision.</p>
<p>Civil forfeiture is one of the truly odious products of the war on certain kind of drugs, wide open for corruption and for prosecutorial flexing. If it is allowed to exist at all, the whole system should be re-examined and placed under strict regulation and oversight. Russ Caswell got lucky. He had good lawyers. If nothing else, the whole thing should be a reason to examine the powers we so willingly cede to our prosecutors in order to keep us &#8220;safe&#8221; from the many vague threats that the government finds so helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine M.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elaine M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,

Here&#039;s an opinion piece from The Boston Globe:

A crisis of values at MIT
By John E. Sununu
Globe Correspondent  
January 21, 2013
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/01/21/crisis-values-mit/WxSOroQauc231s9q4phwtM/story.html

Excerpt:
Swartz wasn’t a student at MIT, and his handiwork carried a political message. He believed that academic articles should be available digitally for free. But in the end, accessing the computer system “without authorization” was nothing more than a stunt. The real distinction was MIT’s passive reaction. That gave the US Attorney’s Office in Massachusetts the cover to pursue the case with vigor — which it did, despite being informed that Swartz’s fragile mental health placed him at risk for suicide.

This case has exposed a trend that should bother us all: the loss of common sense and good judgment as a basis for resolving differences, and the unrestrained use of prosecutorial power. The last “offer” issued by the US attorney demanded six months of jail time. Has anyone ever served a day for unauthorized use of MITs computer facilities? I doubt it — and certainly not someone who served as a Harvard fellow, as Swartz did.

Whereas the institute once would have taken pains to find an appropriate and internal resolution to violations of regulations — and even laws — within its campus, it chose to defer to others. That reaction isn’t unique to MIT, but rather a reflection of gradual changes in accepted cultural and government behavior over the past 20 years. Today, regulators and prosecutors regularly use their power to impose agreements, plea bargains, and consent decrees with little judicial review. They threaten the maximum penalty allowable — regardless of whether a rational mind would consider it fitting for the infraction — in order to gain an outcome that enhances their stature or pleases their political base.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an opinion piece from The Boston Globe:</p>
<p>A crisis of values at MIT<br />
By John E. Sununu<br />
Globe Correspondent<br />
January 21, 2013<br />
<a href="http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/01/21/crisis-values-mit/WxSOroQauc231s9q4phwtM/story.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/01/21/crisis-values-mit/WxSOroQauc231s9q4phwtM/story.html</a></p>
<p>Excerpt:<br />
Swartz wasn’t a student at MIT, and his handiwork carried a political message. He believed that academic articles should be available digitally for free. But in the end, accessing the computer system “without authorization” was nothing more than a stunt. The real distinction was MIT’s passive reaction. That gave the US Attorney’s Office in Massachusetts the cover to pursue the case with vigor — which it did, despite being informed that Swartz’s fragile mental health placed him at risk for suicide.</p>
<p>This case has exposed a trend that should bother us all: the loss of common sense and good judgment as a basis for resolving differences, and the unrestrained use of prosecutorial power. The last “offer” issued by the US attorney demanded six months of jail time. Has anyone ever served a day for unauthorized use of MITs computer facilities? I doubt it — and certainly not someone who served as a Harvard fellow, as Swartz did.</p>
<p>Whereas the institute once would have taken pains to find an appropriate and internal resolution to violations of regulations — and even laws — within its campus, it chose to defer to others. That reaction isn’t unique to MIT, but rather a reflection of gradual changes in accepted cultural and government behavior over the past 20 years. Today, regulators and prosecutors regularly use their power to impose agreements, plea bargains, and consent decrees with little judicial review. They threaten the maximum penalty allowable — regardless of whether a rational mind would consider it fitting for the infraction — in order to gain an outcome that enhances their stature or pleases their political base.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I am just sayin’, I would not be surprised if somebody with a sociopathic disregard for the harm they do to innocents found a well-paid, prestigious job where they could do whatever they wanted to ‘suspects’ without reprisal by claiming they were just doing their job, by the rules.&quot;

Tony,

You&#039;ve hit on the flaw in my defense regarding evil mindset. Let me put this with complete honestly to illustrate that it isn&#039;t my logic, but my emotions, that lead me into this logical bind. My intellectual view of humanity and our world is quite dark. My pessimism as to the eventual outcome of humanity, far exceeds my optimism. This is also true about my outlook on America&#039;s prospects for escaping a the clutches of feudalism. 

Yet from a psychological viewpoint having such a dark outlook only breeds despair. I&#039;m too happy with my own life to allow it to become tinged with despair and so I consciously adopt the outlook of a naive optimist, in all areas of my life. Were I to not adopt this psychological outlook, given the tragedies I experienced and seen in life, then it would be hard to stave off depression. In essence, while I&#039;m not blinded to the true evils of this world, sociopathy is among the worst, emotionally I refuse to let this perspective reach the position where life becomes pointless. &quot;Do not go gently into the night&quot; was the phrase I kept repeating to my self as I was dying of heart disease before my transplant. This mindset is my affirmation of that phrase.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTYf-7shaaE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am just sayin’, I would not be surprised if somebody with a sociopathic disregard for the harm they do to innocents found a well-paid, prestigious job where they could do whatever they wanted to ‘suspects’ without reprisal by claiming they were just doing their job, by the rules.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tony,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve hit on the flaw in my defense regarding evil mindset. Let me put this with complete honestly to illustrate that it isn&#8217;t my logic, but my emotions, that lead me into this logical bind. My intellectual view of humanity and our world is quite dark. My pessimism as to the eventual outcome of humanity, far exceeds my optimism. This is also true about my outlook on America&#8217;s prospects for escaping a the clutches of feudalism. </p>
<p>Yet from a psychological viewpoint having such a dark outlook only breeds despair. I&#8217;m too happy with my own life to allow it to become tinged with despair and so I consciously adopt the outlook of a naive optimist, in all areas of my life. Were I to not adopt this psychological outlook, given the tragedies I experienced and seen in life, then it would be hard to stave off depression. In essence, while I&#8217;m not blinded to the true evils of this world, sociopathy is among the worst, emotionally I refuse to let this perspective reach the position where life becomes pointless. &#8220;Do not go gently into the night&#8221; was the phrase I kept repeating to my self as I was dying of heart disease before my transplant. This mindset is my affirmation of that phrase.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine M.</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-489061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elaine M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,

I don&#039;t disagree with you. I&#039;m frustrated that our government has only given most of the banksters of Wall Street a slap on their wrists and no jail time--while Ortiz wanted to throw the book at Aaron Swartz.

There was an excellent discussion about Swartz&#039;s story on Up with Chris Hayes yesterday.

Synopsis ▼
Author and professor Susan Crawford, Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig, and the Up with Chris Hayes panel reflect on Internet piracy, the difference between physical and intellectual property, and the causes that Aaron Swartz was committed to.

Here&#039;s a link to a video excerpt of the discussion:

Up with Chris Hayes: The legacy of Aaron Swartz 
http://video.tvguide.com/msnbc/Up+with+Chris+Hayes+The+legacy+of+Aaron+Swartz/18179196]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with you. I&#8217;m frustrated that our government has only given most of the banksters of Wall Street a slap on their wrists and no jail time&#8211;while Ortiz wanted to throw the book at Aaron Swartz.</p>
<p>There was an excellent discussion about Swartz&#8217;s story on Up with Chris Hayes yesterday.</p>
<p>Synopsis ▼<br />
Author and professor Susan Crawford, Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig, and the Up with Chris Hayes panel reflect on Internet piracy, the difference between physical and intellectual property, and the causes that Aaron Swartz was committed to.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to a video excerpt of the discussion:</p>
<p>Up with Chris Hayes: The legacy of Aaron Swartz<br />
<a href="http://video.tvguide.com/msnbc/Up+with+Chris+Hayes+The+legacy+of+Aaron+Swartz/18179196" rel="nofollow">http://video.tvguide.com/msnbc/Up+with+Chris+Hayes+The+legacy+of+Aaron+Swartz/18179196</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony C.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike: I believe the distribution of intelligence in sociopaths is, if not exactly the same as the general population, still a bell curve not much offset from the one that applies to the general population.

On the right side of that bell curve lie some wicked smart sociopaths, and with nearly 230,000,000 adults in the USA, we have about 4,600,000 sociopaths, and it should not surprise us to find about 94,000 people being hard-core sociopaths with IQs over 150 (the 2% level).

The reason I think that makes a difference is because the primary value of high IQ (especially as we measure it) is the ability to reason through difficult problems, and spot patterns that escape 98% of the rest of the population.

We should not be too surprised that ruthless people out-compete others for jobs that come with prestige, power, money and some immunity from the law, and we should not be surprised if the smartest of those out-maneuver (and then employ and outrank) the less smart of those.

I am just sayin&#039;, I would not be surprised if somebody with a sociopathic disregard for the harm they do to innocents found a well-paid, prestigious job where they could do whatever they wanted to &#039;suspects&#039; without reprisal by claiming they were just doing their job, by the rules.

I would not be that surprised if Ms. Ortiz found the suicide of Swartz both funny and satisfying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: I believe the distribution of intelligence in sociopaths is, if not exactly the same as the general population, still a bell curve not much offset from the one that applies to the general population.</p>
<p>On the right side of that bell curve lie some wicked smart sociopaths, and with nearly 230,000,000 adults in the USA, we have about 4,600,000 sociopaths, and it should not surprise us to find about 94,000 people being hard-core sociopaths with IQs over 150 (the 2% level).</p>
<p>The reason I think that makes a difference is because the primary value of high IQ (especially as we measure it) is the ability to reason through difficult problems, and spot patterns that escape 98% of the rest of the population.</p>
<p>We should not be too surprised that ruthless people out-compete others for jobs that come with prestige, power, money and some immunity from the law, and we should not be surprised if the smartest of those out-maneuver (and then employ and outrank) the less smart of those.</p>
<p>I am just sayin&#8217;, I would not be surprised if somebody with a sociopathic disregard for the harm they do to innocents found a well-paid, prestigious job where they could do whatever they wanted to &#8216;suspects&#8217; without reprisal by claiming they were just doing their job, by the rules.</p>
<p>I would not be that surprised if Ms. Ortiz found the suicide of Swartz both funny and satisfying.</p>
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		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-489042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Regarding John J. O’Brien who was Probation Commissioner here in Massachusetts: The Boston Globe Spotlight Team did a series of stories about him and patronage in his department. The man is a bad actor!&quot;

Elaine,

Thank you as usual for providing ample backup material documenting John J. O&#039;Brien, who was indeed from reading it a &quot;bad actor&quot;. His example, and the others were used to show the wrongness of prosecutorial overreach. One could assume that none of those in the three examples were exemplary citizens. My problem is ever with prosecuting those who commit crimes. My problem is with prosecutors who tend to focus only o the vulnerable criminals, while being afraid to go after the really dangerous criminial element in our society. My focus is also on the use of &quot;jerry-built&quot;, ill advised, prosecutorial  methodologies, that in their enactment escaped close scrutiny because they were passed in a storm of adverse publicity highlighting certain egregious infractions that were hard to remedy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Regarding John J. O’Brien who was Probation Commissioner here in Massachusetts: The Boston Globe Spotlight Team did a series of stories about him and patronage in his department. The man is a bad actor!&#8221;</p>
<p>Elaine,</p>
<p>Thank you as usual for providing ample backup material documenting John J. O&#8217;Brien, who was indeed from reading it a &#8220;bad actor&#8221;. His example, and the others were used to show the wrongness of prosecutorial overreach. One could assume that none of those in the three examples were exemplary citizens. My problem is ever with prosecuting those who commit crimes. My problem is with prosecutors who tend to focus only o the vulnerable criminals, while being afraid to go after the really dangerous criminial element in our society. My focus is also on the use of &#8220;jerry-built&#8221;, ill advised, prosecutorial  methodologies, that in their enactment escaped close scrutiny because they were passed in a storm of adverse publicity highlighting certain egregious infractions that were hard to remedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
		<link>http://jonathanturley.org/2013/01/26/carmen-ortiz-prosecution-for-political-ego/#comment-489033</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give the discussion that ensued with this blog it occurs to me that there are many different topics arising from it that call for a more detailed treatment. The entire issue of RICO for instance and of its Civil Forfeiture aspect. As I noted RICO was a measure specifically intended to reign in the Cosa Nostra (Mafia if you will). It made it through because &quot;supposedly&quot; the government did not have enough &quot;weapons in its arsenal&quot; to fight organized crime. With that &quot;noble&quot; cause the passed this legislation with little dissent. To my mind it has always been an &quot;unconstitutional&quot; overreach of prosecutorial power. The civil forfeiture procedures not only are unfairly applied, but also serve to impoverish the defendant in terms of hiring defense counsel and increase the pressure upon them by putting their families at financial risk.

The sad truth is that the Cosa Nostra (or Mafia) while greedy and murderous, never was in the &quot;big leagues&quot; of American Organized Crime. They and all the other &quot;Mafias&quot; were &quot;bottom feeders&quot; of criminal activity in this country. The real criminals exist at high corporate levels, but we rarely see prosecutions of them. It&#039;s true that they got Bernie Madoff, but in truth that was because he swindled wealthy people, victims whose needs prosecutors cater to. Martha Stewart at worst committed some low level &quot;insider trading&quot; in one instance, but was sent to jail. Insider Trading is common place among the elite, yet it is almost never noticed, much less prosecuted.

John Gotti was a murderous thug no doubt. He was never the &quot;Godfather&quot; type, portrayed in the movies. He never had that kind of power. Yet he was incautious enough to play his role publicly, basking in its publicity to serve his massive ego. He was prosecuted 7 times and won acquittal the first 6 times because of his brilliant lawyer Bruce Cutler. At the 7th trial, legal skulduggery 
was practiced by the prosecution, Bruce Cutler was not allowed to represent Gotti and guess what they finally convicted him. Is that really an example of impartial justice. Notably, Sammy &quot;The Bull&quot; Gravano, Gotti&#039;s &quot;Underboss&quot; was the chief witness against him. In his testimony Sammy admitted to 22 murders.
In recompense for his testimony Sammy was given a brief sentence and afterwards went into the Witness Protection Program. Interestingly, under his new identity Sammy was arrested and convicted of drug dealing. Is this system really the &quot;Justice&quot; that our ideals call for? When one thinks of a person committing 22 murders, admittedly &quot;hits&quot;, can we not classify that person as a &quot;serial killer&quot;. How then did Sammy ever get out of jail?

Perhaps in the minds of our prosecutors someone who commits &quot;murder for hire&quot; is merely performing an illegal business function because it is usually &quot;nothing personal&quot;. Whereas a &quot;serial killer&quot; is doing it for pleasure, not business and in our puritanical society pleasure is a dirty word. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give the discussion that ensued with this blog it occurs to me that there are many different topics arising from it that call for a more detailed treatment. The entire issue of RICO for instance and of its Civil Forfeiture aspect. As I noted RICO was a measure specifically intended to reign in the Cosa Nostra (Mafia if you will). It made it through because &#8220;supposedly&#8221; the government did not have enough &#8220;weapons in its arsenal&#8221; to fight organized crime. With that &#8220;noble&#8221; cause the passed this legislation with little dissent. To my mind it has always been an &#8220;unconstitutional&#8221; overreach of prosecutorial power. The civil forfeiture procedures not only are unfairly applied, but also serve to impoverish the defendant in terms of hiring defense counsel and increase the pressure upon them by putting their families at financial risk.</p>
<p>The sad truth is that the Cosa Nostra (or Mafia) while greedy and murderous, never was in the &#8220;big leagues&#8221; of American Organized Crime. They and all the other &#8220;Mafias&#8221; were &#8220;bottom feeders&#8221; of criminal activity in this country. The real criminals exist at high corporate levels, but we rarely see prosecutions of them. It&#8217;s true that they got Bernie Madoff, but in truth that was because he swindled wealthy people, victims whose needs prosecutors cater to. Martha Stewart at worst committed some low level &#8220;insider trading&#8221; in one instance, but was sent to jail. Insider Trading is common place among the elite, yet it is almost never noticed, much less prosecuted.</p>
<p>John Gotti was a murderous thug no doubt. He was never the &#8220;Godfather&#8221; type, portrayed in the movies. He never had that kind of power. Yet he was incautious enough to play his role publicly, basking in its publicity to serve his massive ego. He was prosecuted 7 times and won acquittal the first 6 times because of his brilliant lawyer Bruce Cutler. At the 7th trial, legal skulduggery<br />
was practiced by the prosecution, Bruce Cutler was not allowed to represent Gotti and guess what they finally convicted him. Is that really an example of impartial justice. Notably, Sammy &#8220;The Bull&#8221; Gravano, Gotti&#8217;s &#8220;Underboss&#8221; was the chief witness against him. In his testimony Sammy admitted to 22 murders.<br />
In recompense for his testimony Sammy was given a brief sentence and afterwards went into the Witness Protection Program. Interestingly, under his new identity Sammy was arrested and convicted of drug dealing. Is this system really the &#8220;Justice&#8221; that our ideals call for? When one thinks of a person committing 22 murders, admittedly &#8220;hits&#8221;, can we not classify that person as a &#8220;serial killer&#8221;. How then did Sammy ever get out of jail?</p>
<p>Perhaps in the minds of our prosecutors someone who commits &#8220;murder for hire&#8221; is merely performing an illegal business function because it is usually &#8220;nothing personal&#8221;. Whereas a &#8220;serial killer&#8221; is doing it for pleasure, not business and in our puritanical society pleasure is a dirty word. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,

Regarding John J. O&#039;Brien who was Probation Commissioner here in Massachusetts: The Boston Globe Spotlight Team did a series of stories about him and patronage in his department. The man is a bad actor!

I know two very qualified candidates who were not hired by the department because they had no political connections.

*****

Patronage in the Probation Dept.
A Globe Spotlight Team report on corrupt hiring and promotion practices within the Massachusetts Probation Department, and coverage of the investigation of the agency that followed the stories. 
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/specials/spotlight/probation/index/

*****
One of the Boston Globe&#039;s Spotlight Team&#039;s articles:

An agency where patronage is job one
The state Probation Department once set the standard for the nation in rehabilitating criminals. But nine years ago the Legislature freed it from meaningful oversight, and the results were predictable: budgets soared, and the welcome mat was out for hundreds of job seekers with political juice.
Globe Staff / May 23, 2010 
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/05/23/at_the_probation_department_patronage_is_job_one/

Excerpt:
By any measure, Deirdre I. Kennedy was an outstanding candidate for chief probation officer at West Roxbury District Court. A Wellesley College graduate with two master’s degrees, Kennedy was a streetwise veteran of the Dorchester courthouse who spoke fluent Spanish. She was also a proven leader who had run an antidomestic violence program that won nearly $8 million in federal grants.

But, in the closed world of the Massachusetts Probation Department, dazzling credentials scarcely matter. Probation Commissioner John J. “Jack’’ O’Brien chose the 73-year-old father of a state legislator instead, doing a favor for then-House Speaker Thomas M. Finneran, one of O’Brien’s key political mentors, who said he sought the promotion for James J. Rush as a “capstone’’ to the man’s 41-year probation career.

The top judge in West Roxbury warned O’Brien that Rush was not up to the task, and his two-year tenure turned out to be a fiasco. Rush clashed with five female employees who alleged that he threw tantrums, tossed papers at them, and slammed the door in one woman’s face. He abruptly retired in September 2006, leaving behind a sex and race discrimination lawsuit filed by two of the women, but taking home a boost in his pension thanks to his late-career promotion.

Rush’s quick exit gave O’Brien a second chance to take the advice of Judge Kathleen E. Coffey, who recommended Kennedy for the job. Instead, O’Brien chose another politically connected candidate: a veteran probation officer who has donated $2,100 to Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill, an O’Brien ally who employs O’Brien’s wife and one of his daughters.

After 12 years in charge, Jack O’Brien has transformed the Probation Department from a national pioneer of better ways to rehabilitate criminals into an organization that functions more like a private employment agency for the well connected, the Spotlight Team has found.

O’Brien’s agency now employs at least 250 friends, relatives, and financial backers of politicians and top court officials, the Spotlight review found, including children of US Representative William D. Delahunt, former mayor Raymond L. Flynn of Boston, and former Senate president William M. Bulger. The agency has also hired House Speaker Robert A. DeLeo’s godson, who, at 28, is now the youngest chief probation officer in Massachusetts.

O’Brien has taken care of friends, too, finding jobs for the children of his Boston College football teammate, for a friend who ran a fur shop, for a former plasterer friendly with Cahill, and promoting two probation officers who moonlight as bartenders at a Northampton pizza joint frequented by one of his top deputies. Along the way, O’Brien’s family has also benefited...

While O’Brien’s reign has been rewarding for top legislators and his inner circle, the pervasive intrusion of politics and favoritism has, according to interviews with a broad array of Probation Department personnel, badly damaged the morale of an agency with a big job to do: supervising tens of thousands of those convicted of drunken driving, sex offenses, and other crimes who are serving their sentences in the community. A six-month investigation by the Spotlight Team also found that:

■ The department is beset by a “pay to play’’ mentality in which ambitious employees, whether qualified or not, make campaign contributions to key politicians in hopes of advancing their careers. “You’ve got to have political juice,’’ complained one probation officer who was passed over for promotion in favor of a less experienced but politically connected candidate.

Since the Legislature, at Finneran’s urging, transferred power over hiring from judges to O’Brien in 2001, Probation Department employees’ donations to legislative campaigns have more than doubled, a Spotlight Team analysis shows, rising from $23,413 in 2002 to more than $55,000 in 2008. Most of the money goes to just 10 powerful legislators, including DeLeo, Petrolati, and two others who have immediate family members working for the department.

■ Promising candidates who don’t have political connections are routinely passed over to make way for the politically wired. O’Brien, for example, didn’t promote veteran probation officer Karen Jackson to assistant chief probation officer in 2005, even though she was the unanimous first choice of a hiring committee at Milford District Court that included the local judge and Jackson’s boss, a chief probation officer. Instead, O’Brien hired the grandniece of then-State Representative Marie J. Parente.

Jackson said that when she called Parente, the lawmaker said she felt guilty to have lobbied for her relative, who initially was ranked in the middle of the pack of candidates. “The fix was in,’’ said Jackson. “If you don’t know anyone, you’re not going anywhere.’’

Parente said she has repeatedly helped Jackson throughout her career in the department. The former lawmaker said she does not recall whether she lobbied for her relative’s promotion. “I was always careful about the conflict-of-interest law,’’ Parente said. “I truly can’t remember what I did for her.’’

■ Lax oversight of the collection of fines and court costs paid by probationers has left the department, which handles more than $70 million a year in cash, vulnerable to theft. The Spotlight Team has learned that the state’s trial court, after an embezzlement scandal in the Lawrence probation office, has identified five other probation offices that have multiple deficiencies in the way they handle and account for funds. A cashier at a sixth office, in Stoughton, resigned in August after allegedly stealing thousands in court-ordered payments from offenders.

The alleged theft of $2 million from the probation office in Lawrence District Court went on for three years despite two formal warnings from outside auditors that the clerk, Marie Morey, had almost no supervision, appeared to use irregular bookkeeping methods and couldn’t explain some missing funds. Ultimately, the Administrative Office of the Trial Court — not the Probation Department — discovered the scope of the alleged crime. Morey has pleaded not guilty.

Yet the regional supervisor who oversaw the Lawrence District Court probation office, Jeffrey L. Akers, is still on the job and says he has little knowledge of the scandal. O’Brien said in a statement that he had no plans to discipline Akers because it’s up to court administrators to oversee “the financial integrity of the court.’’

Akers’s written job description, however, calls for him to provide “technical assistance’’ to Lawrence and other probation offices in “fiscal matters and personnel issues.’’ Moreover, State Auditor A. Joseph DeNucci’s scathing 2007 report finding discrepancies in Morey’s bookkeeping was addressed to probation officials, who formally promised to fix the problems.

Chief Justice Robert A. Mulligan, chief administrator of Massachusetts’ trial courts, said he is frustrated by the apparent lack of accountability by probation. “There was absolutely no oversight,’’ he said.

■ In three cases, politically connected employees with histories of alleged misconduct or sloppy work avoided serious career fallout. For example, Worcester police fruitlessly complained to O’Brien in 2008 that associate probation officer Ashley Losapio, the stepdaughter of a judge, had compromised an investigation by leaking information to criminals.

Police say Losapio admitted hanging around with “bad guys,’’ and had the telephone numbers of drug and gun suspects programmed into her cellphone. While she told police she never gave the suspects information about criminal matters, she acknowledged that she would tell them whom she saw in court.

The Worcester district attorney’s office said it found no probable cause to prosecute Losapio, but then-Detective Captain Edward J. McGinn Jr. wrote to O’Brien that “she is not a suitable person to serve this community as a probation officer.’’ McGinn said he’s never heard back from O’Brien. Since then, Losapio has been transferred. She continues to work for probation, and her pay has increased by nearly $3,000 a year.

McGinn, now Worcester’s deputy police chief, said his investigators believe Losapio continues to associate with known criminals.

“How on Monday through Friday from 8 to 4 can you sit down and try to guide a probationer, try to straighten their lives out . . . and then go run with them at night?’’ McGinn said in a recent interview.

Losapio did not respond to multiple messages left at her home and office. O’Brien’s office said the matter was “fully investigated, resulting in the appropriate action.’’]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Regarding John J. O&#8217;Brien who was Probation Commissioner here in Massachusetts: The Boston Globe Spotlight Team did a series of stories about him and patronage in his department. The man is a bad actor!</p>
<p>I know two very qualified candidates who were not hired by the department because they had no political connections.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>Patronage in the Probation Dept.<br />
A Globe Spotlight Team report on corrupt hiring and promotion practices within the Massachusetts Probation Department, and coverage of the investigation of the agency that followed the stories.<br />
<a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/specials/spotlight/probation/index/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/specials/spotlight/probation/index/</a></p>
<p>*****<br />
One of the Boston Globe&#8217;s Spotlight Team&#8217;s articles:</p>
<p>An agency where patronage is job one<br />
The state Probation Department once set the standard for the nation in rehabilitating criminals. But nine years ago the Legislature freed it from meaningful oversight, and the results were predictable: budgets soared, and the welcome mat was out for hundreds of job seekers with political juice.<br />
Globe Staff / May 23, 2010<br />
<a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/05/23/at_the_probation_department_patronage_is_job_one/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/05/23/at_the_probation_department_patronage_is_job_one/</a></p>
<p>Excerpt:<br />
By any measure, Deirdre I. Kennedy was an outstanding candidate for chief probation officer at West Roxbury District Court. A Wellesley College graduate with two master’s degrees, Kennedy was a streetwise veteran of the Dorchester courthouse who spoke fluent Spanish. She was also a proven leader who had run an antidomestic violence program that won nearly $8 million in federal grants.</p>
<p>But, in the closed world of the Massachusetts Probation Department, dazzling credentials scarcely matter. Probation Commissioner John J. “Jack’’ O’Brien chose the 73-year-old father of a state legislator instead, doing a favor for then-House Speaker Thomas M. Finneran, one of O’Brien’s key political mentors, who said he sought the promotion for James J. Rush as a “capstone’’ to the man’s 41-year probation career.</p>
<p>The top judge in West Roxbury warned O’Brien that Rush was not up to the task, and his two-year tenure turned out to be a fiasco. Rush clashed with five female employees who alleged that he threw tantrums, tossed papers at them, and slammed the door in one woman’s face. He abruptly retired in September 2006, leaving behind a sex and race discrimination lawsuit filed by two of the women, but taking home a boost in his pension thanks to his late-career promotion.</p>
<p>Rush’s quick exit gave O’Brien a second chance to take the advice of Judge Kathleen E. Coffey, who recommended Kennedy for the job. Instead, O’Brien chose another politically connected candidate: a veteran probation officer who has donated $2,100 to Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill, an O’Brien ally who employs O’Brien’s wife and one of his daughters.</p>
<p>After 12 years in charge, Jack O’Brien has transformed the Probation Department from a national pioneer of better ways to rehabilitate criminals into an organization that functions more like a private employment agency for the well connected, the Spotlight Team has found.</p>
<p>O’Brien’s agency now employs at least 250 friends, relatives, and financial backers of politicians and top court officials, the Spotlight review found, including children of US Representative William D. Delahunt, former mayor Raymond L. Flynn of Boston, and former Senate president William M. Bulger. The agency has also hired House Speaker Robert A. DeLeo’s godson, who, at 28, is now the youngest chief probation officer in Massachusetts.</p>
<p>O’Brien has taken care of friends, too, finding jobs for the children of his Boston College football teammate, for a friend who ran a fur shop, for a former plasterer friendly with Cahill, and promoting two probation officers who moonlight as bartenders at a Northampton pizza joint frequented by one of his top deputies. Along the way, O’Brien’s family has also benefited&#8230;</p>
<p>While O’Brien’s reign has been rewarding for top legislators and his inner circle, the pervasive intrusion of politics and favoritism has, according to interviews with a broad array of Probation Department personnel, badly damaged the morale of an agency with a big job to do: supervising tens of thousands of those convicted of drunken driving, sex offenses, and other crimes who are serving their sentences in the community. A six-month investigation by the Spotlight Team also found that:</p>
<p>■ The department is beset by a “pay to play’’ mentality in which ambitious employees, whether qualified or not, make campaign contributions to key politicians in hopes of advancing their careers. “You’ve got to have political juice,’’ complained one probation officer who was passed over for promotion in favor of a less experienced but politically connected candidate.</p>
<p>Since the Legislature, at Finneran’s urging, transferred power over hiring from judges to O’Brien in 2001, Probation Department employees’ donations to legislative campaigns have more than doubled, a Spotlight Team analysis shows, rising from $23,413 in 2002 to more than $55,000 in 2008. Most of the money goes to just 10 powerful legislators, including DeLeo, Petrolati, and two others who have immediate family members working for the department.</p>
<p>■ Promising candidates who don’t have political connections are routinely passed over to make way for the politically wired. O’Brien, for example, didn’t promote veteran probation officer Karen Jackson to assistant chief probation officer in 2005, even though she was the unanimous first choice of a hiring committee at Milford District Court that included the local judge and Jackson’s boss, a chief probation officer. Instead, O’Brien hired the grandniece of then-State Representative Marie J. Parente.</p>
<p>Jackson said that when she called Parente, the lawmaker said she felt guilty to have lobbied for her relative, who initially was ranked in the middle of the pack of candidates. “The fix was in,’’ said Jackson. “If you don’t know anyone, you’re not going anywhere.’’</p>
<p>Parente said she has repeatedly helped Jackson throughout her career in the department. The former lawmaker said she does not recall whether she lobbied for her relative’s promotion. “I was always careful about the conflict-of-interest law,’’ Parente said. “I truly can’t remember what I did for her.’’</p>
<p>■ Lax oversight of the collection of fines and court costs paid by probationers has left the department, which handles more than $70 million a year in cash, vulnerable to theft. The Spotlight Team has learned that the state’s trial court, after an embezzlement scandal in the Lawrence probation office, has identified five other probation offices that have multiple deficiencies in the way they handle and account for funds. A cashier at a sixth office, in Stoughton, resigned in August after allegedly stealing thousands in court-ordered payments from offenders.</p>
<p>The alleged theft of $2 million from the probation office in Lawrence District Court went on for three years despite two formal warnings from outside auditors that the clerk, Marie Morey, had almost no supervision, appeared to use irregular bookkeeping methods and couldn’t explain some missing funds. Ultimately, the Administrative Office of the Trial Court — not the Probation Department — discovered the scope of the alleged crime. Morey has pleaded not guilty.</p>
<p>Yet the regional supervisor who oversaw the Lawrence District Court probation office, Jeffrey L. Akers, is still on the job and says he has little knowledge of the scandal. O’Brien said in a statement that he had no plans to discipline Akers because it’s up to court administrators to oversee “the financial integrity of the court.’’</p>
<p>Akers’s written job description, however, calls for him to provide “technical assistance’’ to Lawrence and other probation offices in “fiscal matters and personnel issues.’’ Moreover, State Auditor A. Joseph DeNucci’s scathing 2007 report finding discrepancies in Morey’s bookkeeping was addressed to probation officials, who formally promised to fix the problems.</p>
<p>Chief Justice Robert A. Mulligan, chief administrator of Massachusetts’ trial courts, said he is frustrated by the apparent lack of accountability by probation. “There was absolutely no oversight,’’ he said.</p>
<p>■ In three cases, politically connected employees with histories of alleged misconduct or sloppy work avoided serious career fallout. For example, Worcester police fruitlessly complained to O’Brien in 2008 that associate probation officer Ashley Losapio, the stepdaughter of a judge, had compromised an investigation by leaking information to criminals.</p>
<p>Police say Losapio admitted hanging around with “bad guys,’’ and had the telephone numbers of drug and gun suspects programmed into her cellphone. While she told police she never gave the suspects information about criminal matters, she acknowledged that she would tell them whom she saw in court.</p>
<p>The Worcester district attorney’s office said it found no probable cause to prosecute Losapio, but then-Detective Captain Edward J. McGinn Jr. wrote to O’Brien that “she is not a suitable person to serve this community as a probation officer.’’ McGinn said he’s never heard back from O’Brien. Since then, Losapio has been transferred. She continues to work for probation, and her pay has increased by nearly $3,000 a year.</p>
<p>McGinn, now Worcester’s deputy police chief, said his investigators believe Losapio continues to associate with known criminals.</p>
<p>“How on Monday through Friday from 8 to 4 can you sit down and try to guide a probationer, try to straighten their lives out . . . and then go run with them at night?’’ McGinn said in a recent interview.</p>
<p>Losapio did not respond to multiple messages left at her home and office. O’Brien’s office said the matter was “fully investigated, resulting in the appropriate action.’’</p>
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		<title>By: BarkinDog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Carmen Ortiz related to Carmen Miranda?   And if so why do we not get a warning when she entered the public domain.  Carmen Ortiz sure is making a name for herself.  If a hacker gets 35 counts piled on him what does she do to a wacker?  And if she is related to Carmen Miranda and we did not get a warning, what happened to the hat?  Inquiring minds who watch old movies want to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Carmen Ortiz related to Carmen Miranda?   And if so why do we not get a warning when she entered the public domain.  Carmen Ortiz sure is making a name for herself.  If a hacker gets 35 counts piled on him what does she do to a wacker?  And if she is related to Carmen Miranda and we did not get a warning, what happened to the hat?  Inquiring minds who watch old movies want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Puzzling,

That follow up link was a good catch. I believe Ms. Ortiz will let nothing go in pursuit of her identity of a tough prosecutor. Psychologically she must justify all of her actions, perhaps to keep her own self estimation intact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puzzling,</p>
<p>That follow up link was a good catch. I believe Ms. Ortiz will let nothing go in pursuit of her identity of a tough prosecutor. Psychologically she must justify all of her actions, perhaps to keep her own self estimation intact.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony C.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rafflaw: I think society cares about whatever events the media (which includes the Internet) chooses to highlight and pound the table about. I think they care about drama and conflict and perceived unfairness, whether wrought by nature or man.

If there is blame to go around for a racial bias, it belongs partially to the media but mostly to us; the media (including the Internet) is always on the hunt for traction and eyeballs, stories about routine overreach of LEOs fails to reap either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rafflaw: I think society cares about whatever events the media (which includes the Internet) chooses to highlight and pound the table about. I think they care about drama and conflict and perceived unfairness, whether wrought by nature or man.</p>
<p>If there is blame to go around for a racial bias, it belongs partially to the media but mostly to us; the media (including the Internet) is always on the hunt for traction and eyeballs, stories about routine overreach of LEOs fails to reap either.</p>
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		<title>By: Malisha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malisha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wuterich is a murderer; the jags are corrupt; most jags ARE corrupt.  Surprise, surprise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wuterich is a murderer; the jags are corrupt; most jags ARE corrupt.  Surprise, surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is interesting how the sad suicide of one white man who was harassed by excess charges has garnered so much attention when the full force of the Federal DOJ is brought down on minorities on a regular basis. Was the Swartz case the final straw or does society care more about the white victims of prosecutorial abuse?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting how the sad suicide of one white man who was harassed by excess charges has garnered so much attention when the full force of the Federal DOJ is brought down on minorities on a regular basis. Was the Swartz case the final straw or does society care more about the white victims of prosecutorial abuse?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carmen Ortiz is not done with the Motel Caswell owner, apparently:

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/01/ortiz_motel_owner_we’re_not_done_yet

&lt;blockquote&gt;U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz said her office is weighing an appeal against a Tewksbury motel owner who criticized her for prosecutorial bullying last week after he won his battle in the feds’ three-year bid to seize his business, citing drug busts on the property.

“This case was strictly a law-enforcement effort to crack down on what was seen as a pattern of using the motel to further the commission of drug crimes for nearly three decades,” Ortiz said in a statement. “We are weighing our options with respect to appeal.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carmen Ortiz is not done with the Motel Caswell owner, apparently:</p>
<p><a href="http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/01/ortiz_motel_owner_we’re_not_done_yet" rel="nofollow">http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/01/ortiz_motel_owner_we’re_not_done_yet</a></p>
<blockquote><p>U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz said her office is weighing an appeal against a Tewksbury motel owner who criticized her for prosecutorial bullying last week after he won his battle in the feds’ three-year bid to seize his business, citing drug busts on the property.</p>
<p>“This case was strictly a law-enforcement effort to crack down on what was seen as a pattern of using the motel to further the commission of drug crimes for nearly three decades,” Ortiz said in a statement. “We are weighing our options with respect to appeal.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: idealist707</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[idealist707]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 09:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lex Manifesta,

I was sleeping (+6H ET) so MikeS said it first.

You paint a path which entails, as I understand it, a return to a judge function,  no limitation on minimum sentences, and an hopefully a charge for baking, not the loaves of bread (of course number does enter when we differentiate casual from business violations).

That is  great start.   And Darren&#039;s comments and those by others showing the innate corruption in the bureaucratic process are interesting ares we can hope to improve.

Now I am taking my re-infected cold to bed.  

So happy to see the fine material generated here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex Manifesta,</p>
<p>I was sleeping (+6H ET) so MikeS said it first.</p>
<p>You paint a path which entails, as I understand it, a return to a judge function,  no limitation on minimum sentences, and an hopefully a charge for baking, not the loaves of bread (of course number does enter when we differentiate casual from business violations).</p>
<p>That is  great start.   And Darren&#8217;s comments and those by others showing the innate corruption in the bureaucratic process are interesting ares we can hope to improve.</p>
<p>Now I am taking my re-infected cold to bed.  </p>
<p>So happy to see the fine material generated here.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Darren Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have never agreed with the current implementation of civil forfeiture laws.  To me they amount to excessive fines and are unconstitutional.  For example, The fines are set by statute, such as $5,000 for Gross Misdemeanor at the maximum, or 20K for certain felonies.  Yet, if someone manages to get an even slight nexus between the crime and the property they can seize a 500,000 dollar house. 

The courts then went to a true abuse of the public here when they declared that a seizure hearing, of course heard by the senior law enforcement official in the jurisdiction (sheriff of police chief of the seizing agency) was considered &quot;due process of law&quot;.  It was a true sham and it has been around in this state for 20 years or so.

I can see the contraband issue or moneys obtained directly from the criminal activity being seized, such as proceeds gotten from the sale of stolen property.  But just because a person commits a crime in their residence it does not constitute proceeds in my book.

In my entire career I only had two or three times where I initiated a seizure proceeding involving money. (though I had regularly seized contraband)  Everything else I did not consider a seizure to be reasonable.  

Sometimes there are folks who are a bit greedy when it comes to seizing the cash cow and milking it dry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never agreed with the current implementation of civil forfeiture laws.  To me they amount to excessive fines and are unconstitutional.  For example, The fines are set by statute, such as $5,000 for Gross Misdemeanor at the maximum, or 20K for certain felonies.  Yet, if someone manages to get an even slight nexus between the crime and the property they can seize a 500,000 dollar house. </p>
<p>The courts then went to a true abuse of the public here when they declared that a seizure hearing, of course heard by the senior law enforcement official in the jurisdiction (sheriff of police chief of the seizing agency) was considered &#8220;due process of law&#8221;.  It was a true sham and it has been around in this state for 20 years or so.</p>
<p>I can see the contraband issue or moneys obtained directly from the criminal activity being seized, such as proceeds gotten from the sale of stolen property.  But just because a person commits a crime in their residence it does not constitute proceeds in my book.</p>
<p>In my entire career I only had two or three times where I initiated a seizure proceeding involving money. (though I had regularly seized contraband)  Everything else I did not consider a seizure to be reasonable.  </p>
<p>Sometimes there are folks who are a bit greedy when it comes to seizing the cash cow and milking it dry.</p>
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		<title>By: shano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another protected class:


http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/25/local/la-me-haditha-20120125]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another protected class:</p>
<p><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/25/local/la-me-haditha-20120125" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/25/local/la-me-haditha-20120125</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lexmanifesta,

The entirety of your comment was brilliant and is a welcome, needed addition to my piece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lexmanifesta,</p>
<p>The entirety of your comment was brilliant and is a welcome, needed addition to my piece.</p>
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		<title>By: BarkinDog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BarkinDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you are a prosecutor and over charge a single person then you step into the catagory of igPay or LEO  (Law Enforcement Offender).  Here she was way out of bounds.  She would have been prosecuted by the United States in the Nuremburg War Crimes trials after WWII.  Google: The Judge&#039;s Trial.   

They have garbage pickup in that state dont they?  That is what she is now entitled to do on the public tit.  Otherwise she should go be a divorce lawyer in private practice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you are a prosecutor and over charge a single person then you step into the catagory of igPay or LEO  (Law Enforcement Offender).  Here she was way out of bounds.  She would have been prosecuted by the United States in the Nuremburg War Crimes trials after WWII.  Google: The Judge&#8217;s Trial.   </p>
<p>They have garbage pickup in that state dont they?  That is what she is now entitled to do on the public tit.  Otherwise she should go be a divorce lawyer in private practice.</p>
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		<title>By: lexmanifesta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lexmanifesta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A baker in England was once charged with baking 12 loaves of bread on Sunday.  Baking on the sabbath was illegal.  He was charged with 12 counts.  The decision by, I believe it was Lord Chief Justice Hale was, guilty of one count.  What the law prohibits is baking on Sunday, not loaves of bread.  

The rationality Hale found in the law has in large part been extinguished.  Prosecutors whether state or federal  by the exercise of the charging function, have a tremendous ability to determine punishment.  Pile on charges, add aggravating factors or enhancements which many times carry mandatory imposition of lengthy prison terms and an accused may be facing the 30 or 50 years that Aaron Swartz was being menaced with.  
Of course pursuant to the offered plea bargain, he may have only received 6 months in prison.  Or maybe his attorney was telling him that though the judge will generally give great weight to the prosecutor&#039;s recommendation and likely follow it, the court is not bound to follow it and may sentence you to up to 30 years.  Of course we can argue for strait probation but I must tell you Aaron that the court is much more inclined to follow the government&#039;s recommendation than the defense recommendation.  Now Aaron what would you like to do?

Seems like the available choices became just a little too overwhelming for young Mr. Swartz to cope with.  Maybe the prospect of even a week in jail was so frightening to him that he was simply unable to see a way to get through the ordeal.  

Many states and I believe the feds have some type of tariff system for sentencing.  A vertical axis for seriousness level of the crime and a horizontal axis that reflects criminal history.  Where the offender intersects on the grid will encompass a standard sentence range.  The standard sentence range will typically represent a high and low sentence in months within which the judges authority to sentence is constrained.  There are frequently very limited circumstances that allow for a sentence outside the applicable range, Consequently how the conduct in question is charged by the prosecutor is the single most important factor in the disposition of the case.  

Previously, before the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s establishment of these sentencing reforms, judges possessed broad discretion to consider the prosecution and defense arguments as to the appropriate sentence and then could structure a sentence that the court determined represented justice with very few limits.  Judges actually judged in many cases.  They were an important check on prosecutorial abuse of power.  It may be time to reconsider the wisdom of consolidating so much power in the hands of the prosecutor.

Prosecutors in California accomplished third strike, 25 years to life sentences for thefts involving a golf club and several videotapes respectively.  The sentences upon conviction were mandatory.  The prosecutor could have avoided the ridiculously costly result but elected not to.  Invariably they wanted to maintain their ability to tout their tough on crime credentials in their next run for office.  No politician has ever lost an election by demagoging that they are tough on crime.  I would wager that there would have been many judges in the above examples that would have been inclined to sentence the non violent recidivist miscreants in the above examples to a stout five or ten year sentence and call it a day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A baker in England was once charged with baking 12 loaves of bread on Sunday.  Baking on the sabbath was illegal.  He was charged with 12 counts.  The decision by, I believe it was Lord Chief Justice Hale was, guilty of one count.  What the law prohibits is baking on Sunday, not loaves of bread.  </p>
<p>The rationality Hale found in the law has in large part been extinguished.  Prosecutors whether state or federal  by the exercise of the charging function, have a tremendous ability to determine punishment.  Pile on charges, add aggravating factors or enhancements which many times carry mandatory imposition of lengthy prison terms and an accused may be facing the 30 or 50 years that Aaron Swartz was being menaced with.<br />
Of course pursuant to the offered plea bargain, he may have only received 6 months in prison.  Or maybe his attorney was telling him that though the judge will generally give great weight to the prosecutor&#8217;s recommendation and likely follow it, the court is not bound to follow it and may sentence you to up to 30 years.  Of course we can argue for strait probation but I must tell you Aaron that the court is much more inclined to follow the government&#8217;s recommendation than the defense recommendation.  Now Aaron what would you like to do?</p>
<p>Seems like the available choices became just a little too overwhelming for young Mr. Swartz to cope with.  Maybe the prospect of even a week in jail was so frightening to him that he was simply unable to see a way to get through the ordeal.  </p>
<p>Many states and I believe the feds have some type of tariff system for sentencing.  A vertical axis for seriousness level of the crime and a horizontal axis that reflects criminal history.  Where the offender intersects on the grid will encompass a standard sentence range.  The standard sentence range will typically represent a high and low sentence in months within which the judges authority to sentence is constrained.  There are frequently very limited circumstances that allow for a sentence outside the applicable range, Consequently how the conduct in question is charged by the prosecutor is the single most important factor in the disposition of the case.  </p>
<p>Previously, before the 70&#8242;s and 80&#8242;s establishment of these sentencing reforms, judges possessed broad discretion to consider the prosecution and defense arguments as to the appropriate sentence and then could structure a sentence that the court determined represented justice with very few limits.  Judges actually judged in many cases.  They were an important check on prosecutorial abuse of power.  It may be time to reconsider the wisdom of consolidating so much power in the hands of the prosecutor.</p>
<p>Prosecutors in California accomplished third strike, 25 years to life sentences for thefts involving a golf club and several videotapes respectively.  The sentences upon conviction were mandatory.  The prosecutor could have avoided the ridiculously costly result but elected not to.  Invariably they wanted to maintain their ability to tout their tough on crime credentials in their next run for office.  No politician has ever lost an election by demagoging that they are tough on crime.  I would wager that there would have been many judges in the above examples that would have been inclined to sentence the non violent recidivist miscreants in the above examples to a stout five or ten year sentence and call it a day.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene H.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 03:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Justice Holmes said.  And I also mean on the part of evil, Mike. &quot;While I don’t believe, or find comfort in the religious concept of “soul”, I do believe that we become somehow twisted emotionally if we allow ourselves to be seduced by the rewards of bad behavior.&quot; That is the description of giving in to temptation for the sake of selfish motive(s). Sometimes intent is irrelevant and evil is in the action and the outcome. Simply because Ortiz either didn&#039;t examine her actions carefully or simply didn&#039;t care she was engaging in an injustice for her personal benefit does not excuse the evil outcome. Murder without intent is still manslaughter. Intent is really only relevant to the degree of culpability. It&#039;s the same discussion we&#039;ve had about the difference between Hitler and Reinhardt Heydrich. While both men are culpable for the actions of the Nazis, Reinhardt is arguably more so because of the differences in their individual intent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Justice Holmes said.  And I also mean on the part of evil, Mike. &#8220;While I don’t believe, or find comfort in the religious concept of “soul”, I do believe that we become somehow twisted emotionally if we allow ourselves to be seduced by the rewards of bad behavior.&#8221; That is the description of giving in to temptation for the sake of selfish motive(s). Sometimes intent is irrelevant and evil is in the action and the outcome. Simply because Ortiz either didn&#8217;t examine her actions carefully or simply didn&#8217;t care she was engaging in an injustice for her personal benefit does not excuse the evil outcome. Murder without intent is still manslaughter. Intent is really only relevant to the degree of culpability. It&#8217;s the same discussion we&#8217;ve had about the difference between Hitler and Reinhardt Heydrich. While both men are culpable for the actions of the Nazis, Reinhardt is arguably more so because of the differences in their individual intent.</p>
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		<title>By: Dredd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dredd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony C. 1, January 26, 2013 at 6:10 pm	

I have long been skeptical of the essentially unlimited power of prosecutors. I have read of D.A.s refusing to prosecute what were clearly unwarranted fatal shootings by police officers. That is far too much power to put in their hands, &lt;b&gt;it is essentially the power to pardon crimes&lt;/b&gt;, even straight up casual murders of citizens, by simply never bringing a case.

As for the rest, Mike: A depressingly accurate assessment indeed.
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Indeed, it destroys the jury system created in three of the Constitutional Amendments we call &quot;The Bill of Rights&quot;: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
A legal historian once said in the late 19th century:
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&quot;It is remarkable that no History of Trial by Jury has ever yet appeared in this country.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(History of Trial by Jury). The US Constitution, our supreme law, provides us with three distinct juries.

One such jury is the criminal grand jury (5th Amendment), another is the criminal petite jury (6th Amendment), and the third is the civil petite jury (7th Amendment).

Without an adequate understanding of the experiences of our forefathers and foremothers who founded this country, we won&#039;t understand why all free people must have a robust trial-by-jury system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://powertoxins.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-trial-by-jury.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Trial By Jury?&lt;/a&gt;). As goes the jury system goes the criminal justice system, and as Mike S pointed out, as goes the criminal justice system goes public freedom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony C. 1, January 26, 2013 at 6:10 pm	</p>
<p>I have long been skeptical of the essentially unlimited power of prosecutors. I have read of D.A.s refusing to prosecute what were clearly unwarranted fatal shootings by police officers. That is far too much power to put in their hands, <b>it is essentially the power to pardon crimes</b>, even straight up casual murders of citizens, by simply never bringing a case.</p>
<p>As for the rest, Mike: A depressingly accurate assessment indeed.<br />
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Indeed, it destroys the jury system created in three of the Constitutional Amendments we call &#8220;The Bill of Rights&#8221;: </p>
<blockquote><p>
A legal historian once said in the late 19th century:</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;It is remarkable that no History of Trial by Jury has ever yet appeared in this country.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>(History of Trial by Jury). The US Constitution, our supreme law, provides us with three distinct juries.</p>
<p>One such jury is the criminal grand jury (5th Amendment), another is the criminal petite jury (6th Amendment), and the third is the civil petite jury (7th Amendment).</p>
<p>Without an adequate understanding of the experiences of our forefathers and foremothers who founded this country, we won&#8217;t understand why all free people must have a robust trial-by-jury system.</p></blockquote>
<p>(<a href="http://powertoxins.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-trial-by-jury.html" rel="nofollow">Why Trial By Jury?</a>). As goes the jury system goes the criminal justice system, and as Mike S pointed out, as goes the criminal justice system goes public freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: rebelready</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rebelready]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron Swartz was a thorn in the side of a corrupt government and a VERY CORRUPT FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM! Harassment over the PACER incident simply led Aaron to pursue another form of information release where as an academic he knew common sense would prevail because who in their right mind was going to object to the flurry of free knowledge? The &quot;persecution&quot; that led to the death of Aaron was the DOJ seeing the MIT - JSTOR incident as a perfect storm to carry retaliation over the PACER incident. THIS malicious prosecution could ensure a FELONY conviction if they could get a guilty plea (a jury conviction was very doubtful); a computer crime conviction would bar Aaron from computers &amp; his open records campaign. What you are seeing is RISK MANAGEMENT by the CORRUPT!! Public servants have a fiduciary responsibility to the tax payer; the aforementioned includes a responsibility to provide HONEST SERVICE. Appointed, or simply hired on, your responsibility when you live off the tax payer&#039;s dollar is no less than if you were an elected official. What our high level public servants stated during the DiMasi trial as reported in the local papers follows: &quot;The judge said DiMasi inherited a responsibility to serve in office honorably and should have been aware that his actions were breaking the law,..&quot; &quot;Which person is more dangerous in our country,&#039;&#039; Wolf asked, &quot;someone who is doing what everyone he knows does, selling crack on a corner, or people who are undermining our democracy by successfully conspiring to sell their public office?&#039;&#039; After Judge Wolf spoke Carmen Ortiz spoke: &quot;You heard what Judge Wolf said inside, that somehow it&#039;s striking that elected officials think their good works (make the case) that a little corruption is OK. It&#039;s not OK,&quot; she said. &quot;I am hoping by these prosecutions, the sentences that have been given out, that all elected officials — not just on Beacon Hill, but in the state of Massachusetts — will realize that these are serious crimes.&quot; Overreach in the prosecution of a good citizen when the only intent was to make the world better while ignoring the undermining of our democracy by lower tier public servants does not meet the standard!! The most dangerous criminals in our society are very low lying fruit! The corrupt US justice system is robbing Americans of life, liberty and property. The citizens of this country want their rights back; they are tired of living in fear and having all for which they worked taken away on the whim of a corrupt public servant(s). http://www.scribd.com/tired_of_corruption]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron Swartz was a thorn in the side of a corrupt government and a VERY CORRUPT FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM! Harassment over the PACER incident simply led Aaron to pursue another form of information release where as an academic he knew common sense would prevail because who in their right mind was going to object to the flurry of free knowledge? The &#8220;persecution&#8221; that led to the death of Aaron was the DOJ seeing the MIT &#8211; JSTOR incident as a perfect storm to carry retaliation over the PACER incident. THIS malicious prosecution could ensure a FELONY conviction if they could get a guilty plea (a jury conviction was very doubtful); a computer crime conviction would bar Aaron from computers &amp; his open records campaign. What you are seeing is RISK MANAGEMENT by the CORRUPT!! Public servants have a fiduciary responsibility to the tax payer; the aforementioned includes a responsibility to provide HONEST SERVICE. Appointed, or simply hired on, your responsibility when you live off the tax payer&#8217;s dollar is no less than if you were an elected official. What our high level public servants stated during the DiMasi trial as reported in the local papers follows: &#8220;The judge said DiMasi inherited a responsibility to serve in office honorably and should have been aware that his actions were breaking the law,..&#8221; &#8220;Which person is more dangerous in our country,&#8221; Wolf asked, &#8220;someone who is doing what everyone he knows does, selling crack on a corner, or people who are undermining our democracy by successfully conspiring to sell their public office?&#8221; After Judge Wolf spoke Carmen Ortiz spoke: &#8220;You heard what Judge Wolf said inside, that somehow it&#8217;s striking that elected officials think their good works (make the case) that a little corruption is OK. It&#8217;s not OK,&#8221; she said. &#8220;I am hoping by these prosecutions, the sentences that have been given out, that all elected officials — not just on Beacon Hill, but in the state of Massachusetts — will realize that these are serious crimes.&#8221; Overreach in the prosecution of a good citizen when the only intent was to make the world better while ignoring the undermining of our democracy by lower tier public servants does not meet the standard!! The most dangerous criminals in our society are very low lying fruit! The corrupt US justice system is robbing Americans of life, liberty and property. The citizens of this country want their rights back; they are tired of living in fear and having all for which they worked taken away on the whim of a corrupt public servant(s). <a href="http://www.scribd.com/tired_of_corruption" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/tired_of_corruption</a></p>
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		<title>By: idealist707</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[idealist707]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little humor????      A long rant???
 
Must be a lot of twisted people  around.   All above bureaucrat grade one are suspect. 

It is intoxicating to these creeps.  Oxy something to their pleasure center.

Now MikeS,  I presume, has had lot&#039;s of experience with the poor excusing themselves to avoid responsibility.   

I  would ask him what experience does he have with prosecutors who are rewarded by the system.  Are they the product of what Noam Chomsky called the filter system,  ie school and later selection processes.   He gave them also an out,  saying that they had no insight, but he is not a psychotherapist.   Nor a psychiatrist charged with reviewing  the power mad.

Yes, the skit does attract flies, and the more skit the more flies develop.   But surely there somewhere is some evil  genius or some evil conspiracy or whatever that explains this crap.  Things like CAF must have been a wet dream of a some one percenter or a no-think tank   Feudal, you are so right MikeS.

And you too Justice Holms.   Vive la libertie.  A la Bastille.   Pardon my bad French.  Adds a touch of culture to uncouth products.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little humor????      A long rant???</p>
<p>Must be a lot of twisted people  around.   All above bureaucrat grade one are suspect. </p>
<p>It is intoxicating to these creeps.  Oxy something to their pleasure center.</p>
<p>Now MikeS,  I presume, has had lot&#8217;s of experience with the poor excusing themselves to avoid responsibility.   </p>
<p>I  would ask him what experience does he have with prosecutors who are rewarded by the system.  Are they the product of what Noam Chomsky called the filter system,  ie school and later selection processes.   He gave them also an out,  saying that they had no insight, but he is not a psychotherapist.   Nor a psychiatrist charged with reviewing  the power mad.</p>
<p>Yes, the skit does attract flies, and the more skit the more flies develop.   But surely there somewhere is some evil  genius or some evil conspiracy or whatever that explains this crap.  Things like CAF must have been a wet dream of a some one percenter or a no-think tank   Feudal, you are so right MikeS.</p>
<p>And you too Justice Holms.   Vive la libertie.  A la Bastille.   Pardon my bad French.  Adds a touch of culture to uncouth products.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Spindell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Spindell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I do have to disagree with you on the issue of evil. I do think Ms Ortiz and here colleagues who participate so enthusiastically and so cruelly in the criminal “justice” system are evil or at least their acts are evil.&quot;

Justin Holmes,

Thank you for your kind words. My meaning regarding evil is that I see a difference between doing (or participating) in evil and actually being intrinsically evil. I agree that none should participate in what they see as evil even at the risk of their lives or their career. The problem with people like Ms. Ortiz though is that they do not see, or do not allow themselves to see, the wrongness of their actions. They believe fervently that the game they play is a righteous one and they find ways to rationalize their behavior. My work with people as a psychotherapist and a social worker has shown me how much people are capable of fooling themselves when they act badly, by finding justifications for their actions. Would I let such people off the hook of responsibility for the wrong they do? Absolutely not, one must suffer the consequences of their acting badly. However, in dealing with these people effectively it seems important to me that we understand their mindsets and motivations. 

&quot;In the criminal justice system prosecutors have behaved in the same way prosecuting small fry and allowing the big really big criminals to avoid liability and sometimes receive accolades for their criminal activity. I am disappointed and despairing of where this will ultimately lead.&quot;

I get it that your experience with the law has exposed you to much bad behavior and that we see a society where those with less bear all the burdens, while those with so much still strive to get more, if not everything. The disappoint and despair at all this is not far from me ever, but I believe those of us who see it must continue on in opposing it. While I don&#039;t believe, or find comfort in the religious concept of &quot;soul&quot;, I do believe that we become somehow twisted emotionally if we allow ourselves to be seduced by the rewards of bad behavior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do have to disagree with you on the issue of evil. I do think Ms Ortiz and here colleagues who participate so enthusiastically and so cruelly in the criminal “justice” system are evil or at least their acts are evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Justin Holmes,</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind words. My meaning regarding evil is that I see a difference between doing (or participating) in evil and actually being intrinsically evil. I agree that none should participate in what they see as evil even at the risk of their lives or their career. The problem with people like Ms. Ortiz though is that they do not see, or do not allow themselves to see, the wrongness of their actions. They believe fervently that the game they play is a righteous one and they find ways to rationalize their behavior. My work with people as a psychotherapist and a social worker has shown me how much people are capable of fooling themselves when they act badly, by finding justifications for their actions. Would I let such people off the hook of responsibility for the wrong they do? Absolutely not, one must suffer the consequences of their acting badly. However, in dealing with these people effectively it seems important to me that we understand their mindsets and motivations. </p>
<p>&#8220;In the criminal justice system prosecutors have behaved in the same way prosecuting small fry and allowing the big really big criminals to avoid liability and sometimes receive accolades for their criminal activity. I am disappointed and despairing of where this will ultimately lead.&#8221;</p>
<p>I get it that your experience with the law has exposed you to much bad behavior and that we see a society where those with less bear all the burdens, while those with so much still strive to get more, if not everything. The disappoint and despair at all this is not far from me ever, but I believe those of us who see it must continue on in opposing it. While I don&#8217;t believe, or find comfort in the religious concept of &#8220;soul&#8221;, I do believe that we become somehow twisted emotionally if we allow ourselves to be seduced by the rewards of bad behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony C.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have long been skeptical of the essentially unlimited power of prosecutors. I have read of D.A.s refusing to prosecute what were clearly unwarranted fatal shootings by police officers. That is far too much power to put in their hands, it is essentially the power to pardon crimes, even straight up casual murders of citizens, by simply never bringing a case. 

As for the rest, Mike: A depressingly accurate assessment indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have long been skeptical of the essentially unlimited power of prosecutors. I have read of D.A.s refusing to prosecute what were clearly unwarranted fatal shootings by police officers. That is far too much power to put in their hands, it is essentially the power to pardon crimes, even straight up casual murders of citizens, by simply never bringing a case. </p>
<p>As for the rest, Mike: A depressingly accurate assessment indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: rafflaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rafflaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are right OS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right OS.</p>
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