Karzai: Americans Are “Demons”

We have previously discussed Afghan President Hamid Karzai stated inclinations toward the Taliban and harsh treatment of women. Then there was Karzai’s recent position that women are worth less than men — presumably even those American women keeping Karzai and his corrupt family and friends in power. This week Karzai has added that Americans are “demons” and no better than the Taliban. Karzai then called for divine intervention to defeat the Americans and the Taliban — a dangerous call in a nation known for religious fanaticism: “Let’s pray for God to rescue us from these two demons. There are two demons in our country now.”

Karzai insisted that there will be no forgiveness for the Americans regardless of claims that the recent burning of Korans was done by mistake. Karzai has declared that those “Satanic acts that will never be forgiven by apologies.” He went out of his way to tell citizens that they should not believe this was an isolated incident. Noting that the recent massacre of civilians by an American soldier was just the latest atrocity committed by the American “demons.” That shooting, he insisted, “was not the first incident, indeed it was the 100th, the 200th and 500th incident.”

Karzai’s words will only encourage those people in the Afghan military who continue to kill Americans. We have had regular occurrences of Afghan soldiers turning their weapons on their fellow U.S. soldiers at checkpoints and military bases. Karzai’s statements will only reinforce the view that dying in such attacks are religiously justified and constitute martyrdom to secure a place in paradise.

Just for the record, the United States and its allies have lost 2,845 “demons” in Afghanistan fighting for Karzai and his people. Wounded personnel are over 7,000. Added to this sacrifice are the hundreds of billions spent by our government while we slash our own educational, scientific, and social programs across the country.

In the meantime, the Karzai family and its allies continue to be accused of stealing hundreds of millions of dollars. The U.S. has continued to pump in billions despite the widespread corruption — treating thefts as a cost of doing business in the country with only occasional efforts to curtail the practice. Yet, one Afghan official stated “Karzai wants revenge on the U.S. because of the systematic insults he has suffered, that he feels his family suffered, because of Kabul Bank.”

The Obama Administration continued the Bush policy in keeping forces in the country and spending billions as polls showed growing hatred toward the United States and growing instability in the Karzai regime. We continued this support as Karzai and his government embraced medieval religious practices and repeatedly denied basic rights to religious dissidents and women. The result has been years of support for a government that rejects the core principles upon which our nation is founded and has increasingly denounced our military forces as evil and the enemy. It is perfectly Felliniesque.

Source: NY Times

58 thoughts on “Karzai: Americans Are “Demons””

    1. QUOTE “Bin Laden won.”

      Or the puppet master behind the Bush administration….even with the propaganda machine going full blast it was painfully obvious that 9-11 buildings were blown up…especially when the plane never reached building #7 and it STILL WENT DOWN.

  1. Latest tip on Kandahar massacre:

    “OK, men, I know you’re not satisfied after the IED took H.’s leg off; your buddy, right Bales? Well, the line-up of the villagers last week and the threats you gave then have been judged as not enough. So now we go for blood. Just like it says in the Bible: Strike the heads of babes against stones, and spare no one.

    I understand Bales has volunteered to take the fall and the medical discharge. You’re brief, right? He’ll be hunkered down waiting for the rest to come back. Can’t afford him getting over-charged cuz of his buddy. He might take one of us out too.

    So you guys know that this has been approved, in usual order. So let’s show how professional we are, and no slip-ups.

    Any questions? Then the usual rules and leadership is in order. Do it.”

  2. Here’s an analysis group sponsored by governments of Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Netherlands, all of whom have troops in Afghanistan. Its been in operation for 3-4 years.

    Afghanistan Analysts Network (AAN)
    about them:

    quote from AAN:
    “I have encountered almost no Afghan who believes it could have been one person acting alone, whether they think it was a group or people back at the base somehow organizing or facilitating it,” Kate Clark of the Afghanistan Analysts Network told the Guardian. (The AAN is funded by four Scandanavian governments, all of which have troops in Afghanistan).” Salon

    Note posted in Salon

    “Over at Salon Jefferson Morley asks, Did Sgt. Bales have help?”
    Willy Loman blog sourse

    “A group of Afghan parliamentary investigators has concluded that Bales was part of a group of 15-20 soldiers. As Outlook Afghanistan reported Monday, “The team spent two days in the province, interviewing the bereaved families, tribal elders, survivors and collecting evidences at the site in Panjwai district.” One of the parliamentarians told Pajhwok Afghan News that investigators believed 15 to 20 American soldiers carried out the killings.”.

    My take stands, Bales is a bought fall-guy for CIA opn.

  3. PS in an appendix Ishmael has a long list of recommendations of improvements he wishes were put in place. Probably this was why the book was stalled. In terms of revealing damaging field info, he exposes less than Robert Baer does.
    Also he was a family man who took his family with him under his cover.
    Another view of spying.

  4. Blouise,

    Recommend Ishmael Jone’s book Human Factor, about the CIA and his career there. Layers are created in the CIA to insulate from responsibility. At one point he had 8 layers above him whose approval was required for any operation he proposed. He actually outranked them all, but did call a meeting with all eight to argue his case and to save the op being delayed, as it was an opportunity of timed value.

    You’ll enjoy it, even the picture of how bureaucratic it all is.
    The true story of how ops were called down in the whole of Europe because a lack of hotel rooms due to Olympic Games! And that is only a start.
    Here’s a guy who stayed in the field longer than any op in modern times, and published his book without approval—–as they stalled it for years.
    All profit, USD 28K was donated to charity to keep the gov from seizing it.

  5. Michael Murry,
    Most elegant, inclusive and conclusive—–of course i say so hearing my basic opinion confirmed. Your rendering is unmatchable.
    Thank you, Sir.

  6. Jill:

    “They use the govt. as cover to set their own monetary policy, write regulations that help them wipe out legitimate competition (yes,they do like regulations), allow them to commit open fraud and accumulate public wealth into their private hands. I truly urge you to go to naked capitalism to read about these types of things.”

    I agree with you, I know all about it and it is why I want government out of economics. Any free market capitalist is philosophically opposed to what you rightly condemn. We are sick about it, probably more so than people on the left who use those examples as a way to say “look capitalism doesnt work and so we need more government controls”.

    Corporations which go to government to set prices, to destroy competition, to get favorable regulations are not philosophically capitalist in nature; they are either fascist or socialist.

    Capitalism is about freedom and that includes the freedom to fail.

    There are many good people in business who believe in freedom but government has so polluted the environment that to swim you have to compromise. The only way you will ever clean this mess up is to have economic freedom coupled with objective law.

    Did you know Paulson, in 2008, forced healthy banks to take TARP money so the people would not know which banks were solvent and which werent?
    They were forced by government to take money they did not need and to pay it back with interest. Think about that, that isnt freedom and it certainly isnt capitalism. At least organized crime provides “protection” for their shake downs and they dont force you to borrow money you dont need.

    Government did that, no matter what others may say the financial crisis and the depression we are in was caused and has been extended by government intervention in the economy.

  7. A leaf from the 1970’s:

    Obama: Pull out now — like your father should have.

  8. John

    Blouise Presidents come and go … the CIA remains.

    And from the look of it this is really a ‘click’ of the people in the Skull & Crossbones…and a few other well connected families…


    It certainly does look that way and this continued inbreeding is producing noticeably intellectual deformities.

  9. For Professor Turley and all Americans inclined to feel aggrieved at the apparent ingratitude of American-installed foreign puppet rulers, I suggest a brief mediation on the following:

    From Shakespeare’s The Tempest:


    “Abhorred slave,
    Which any print of goodness will not take,
    Being capable of all ill! I pitied thee,
    Took pains to make thee speak, taught thee each hour
    One thing or other: when thou didst not, savage,
    Know thine own meaning, but wouldst gabble like
    A thing most brutish, I endow’d thy purposes
    With words that made them known: but thy vile race,
    Though thou didst learn, had that in’t which good natures
    Could not abide to be with; therefore wast thou
    Deservedly confin’d into this rock,
    Who hadst deserv’d more than a prison.”


    “You taught me language: and my profit on’t
    Is, I know how to curse: the red plague rid you,
    For learning me your language!”

    From Frances Fitzgerald’s elegant and informed book, Fire in the Lake: the Vietnamese and the Americans in Vietnam:

    “In an interview with Pham Van Dong, one American asked the North Vietnamese foreign minister how he could call the Saigon government an ‘American puppet’ when it acted with such consistency against American interests. ‘Ah,’ replied the minister, ‘it’s a puppet, all right. It’s just a bad puppet.’”

    Bad Pupped Syndrome, clearly. Of course, America has a long history of treating its so-called third-world “allies” as of little consequence and not worth consulting on issues vitally affecting them. Hence, going all the way back to World War II, as Barbara Tuchman noted in, Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911-1945:

    “Cynicism about the war and a lapse into increasing passivity was the result [of shutting China out of top-level alliance positions]. An attitude of ‘Let the Allies do it’ prevailed in the teahouses of Chunking after the fall of Burma. To use barbarians to fight other barbarians was a traditional principle of Chinese statecraft which now more than ever appeared not only advisable but justified [emphasis added]. Chinese opinion, according to a foreign resident, held that not only was China justified in remaining passive after five years of resistance; ‘it was her right to get as much as possible from her allies while they fought.’ The exercise of this right became the Government’s chief war effort. The long endeavor to shake off the foreigners and emerge from dependence had not succeeded; China’s problems had been too great. With dwindling capacity to cope with its own circumstances, the Kuomintang [<b<client] applied all its energy to making dependence pay” [emphasis added].

    In summary, Professor Turley, we have here nothing at all new or surprising. Just the typical Bad Puppet Making Dependence Pay

    I trust you require no further edification on this subject.

  10. Jill and bron,

    You both make valid points. Kariza was most disloyal to bush too…… But the area is living and breathing with us made and acquired weaponry…..therein lies the rub….the CIA runs it all with piles of cash….the reason is to keep Russia out……this is a strategic point for the US.

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