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“We Don’t Have A Flu Season”: Televangelist and Trump Adviser Gloria Copeland Criticized For Calling For Faith Not Shots In Combating The Flu

Screen Shot 2018-02-06 at 7.56.32 PMGloria Copeland is the co-founder of the Kenneth Copeland Ministries (with her husband) in Texas and cited as a spiritual advisor to President Donald Trump. She and her husband serve on Trump’s evangelical advisory board.  This week Copeland is in the center of a firestorm after telling her followers that you may not need flu shots if you “inoculate yourself with the word of God.”

The country is facing a raging flu crisis with rising deaths over one of the severe seasons in decades.  Yet, Copeland is shown in a video clip saying

“Well, listen, partners, we don’t have a flu season. And don’t receive it when somebody threatens you with, ‘Everybody’s getting the flu.’ We’ve already had our shot: He bore our sicknesses and carried our diseases. That’s what we stand on.” She adds that the faithful can ward off the flu by saying  “I’ll never have the flu. I’ll never have the flu.”

 

In 2013, Copeland Ministries was accused of opposing vaccinations during a measles outbreak. The Copelands denied it and called for vaccinations.

We have previously discussed the Copelands, including Kenneth Copeland’s defense of his private jets as bringing him closer to God and avoiding “long tubes full of demons.”

The possibility of a lawsuit is always present but this is ultimately a statement of faith, not medical advice. It is a reckless sermon however that could be easily understood as claiming that faith alone is a flu vaccine.  With the rising death count, that message could prove lethal.

64 thoughts on ““We Don’t Have A Flu Season”: Televangelist and Trump Adviser Gloria Copeland Criticized For Calling For Faith Not Shots In Combating The Flu”

  3. Why is it that people argue for these current unsafe & ineffective vaccines programs allow themselves to remain ignorant on the issue when there’s a mountain of evidence that show these vaz programs are nothing but Bio/Chem weapons against the gen pop in deep state’s eugenics program.

    Why not argue for Tested Vazs that are prove to truly are Safe & Effective?

    Kenya: 500,000 Women Sterilized – Catholics – allAfrica.com
    About 500,000 women may never bear children after being injected with a contaminated tetanus vaccine last year, Catholic Church claims in its final report …

    http://allafrica.com/stories/201502150078.html

      2. David, there’s no one stopping you from informing yourself but you, but you have to get away from the old fake news bullsh*t sites.

        The Vid below, one could watch the 1st 19 mins or start with the vaccine interview starting at 19:00 mins.

        Emergency Alert! Government And Big Pharma To Make Vaccines Mandatory

    2. Why don’t these D*mb azzes go visit their local cancer ward & the families there & ask them if they knew some vaccines had phk’in cancer virus in them?

      BTW, I’ve been there many times with family members.

      I think this 1st vid has the head Merck Vaz doc/scientist laughing that he/they knew it had cancer viruse in the polio vaz.

      Vaccine pioneer admits adding cancer-causing virus to Vaccine
      Goodfightlads
      6 years ago285,894 views
      In this interview Dr. Maurice Hilleman reveals some astounding revelations. He admits that Merck drug company vaccines (Polio)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13QiSV_lrDQ

      CDC Admits 98 Million Americans Were Given Cancer Virus Via The Polio Shot
      Mary Greeley
      10 months ago201,434 views
      Another important consideration conveniently omitted on the CDC fact sheet about SV40 is that the virus is somehow being passed

      https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=SV+40

          1. I read a lot of science news, daily.

            I do not assert that which I cannot substantiate.

            Yes, sometimes I use Wikipedia articles. You should read the link about Wikipedia which I left a few threads down; help overcome your prejudice.

            1. David Benson – I was gone most of the day and came back to 174 unread emails. I answered a few and then deleted most of them. I felt like Hillary. 😉 I made a statement. And as I have said before I do not use Wikipedia, it has a 50/50 chance of being wrong. If you have another source, there should be no trouble to cite it. 🙂

              1. Go dig on this site for the link. That should be enough to relieve you of your ignorant prejudice against Wikipedia, one of the best encyclopedias available.

                1. David Benson – as a former teacher, like you are, it is based on studies and newsreports of Wikipedia problems. So, it is not ignorant, but is a prejudice.

  5. “I’m going to surround myself only with the best and most serious people. . . . We want top of the line professionals.” -Donald Trump

    ““BEYOND DISBELIEF”: JOHN KELLY’S DEFENSE OF ROB PORTER ROILS THE WEST WING”

    “Staff Secretary Rob Porter, who has been accused of abusing his former wives, is Kelly’s right hand—and dating Hope Hicks, one of Trump’s closest confidantes. But Kelly’s declaration that Porter is a man of “true integrity and honor” was seen as deeply tone deaf.”

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/john-kelly-defense-of-rob-porter-roils-the-west-wing

    “For weeks, Donald Trump has been souring on his Chief of Staff John Kelly because of his controlling ways and rising public profile. And now Kelly is in the midst of a bonafide crisis, one that exacerbates the president’s own #MeToo problems. On Tuesday, Kelly strongly defended White House Staff Secretary Rob Porter against disturbing allegations, published first in the Daily Mail, that he abused his ex-wives. Kelly’s decision to back Porter has left many people inside the White House angry, two sources with knowledge of the matter said. On Wednesday afternoon, Porter resigned. Axios reported Kelly wanted Porter to “stay and fight.””

  6. “We Don’t Have A Flu Season”: Televangelist and Trump Adviser Gloria Copeland Criticized For Calling For Faith Not Shots In Combating The Flu

    Wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands.

  7. The sin of pride runs very strong in many religious people. Even the bible itself shows instances of god afflicting people with all kinds of sickness and cruelties. If god smites Job, what makes them think he won’t smite them down? To be internally consistent; god can give things and he can take them away. This includes sickness and health.

    From a secular point of view I am always dismayed to hear religious people claim god or buddha or the universe or whomever made them well or kept them from getting sick. The lack of compassion surpasses the ability to recognize the reality of human existence. The idea that some entity or another is sparing some people while killing or afflicting others is repulsive. I can’t even imagine liking, let alone, worshiping such an entity. If that entity exists they should be shunned as cruel and heartless.

    The truth is, as human medicine is now conducted, people will get sick. Some people will die of that sickness. Eventually, even the “purest” religious person will die. Since everyone will die of something, evidently, even a holy person has god’s love removed and they croak! It’s all too crazy and worse, cruel.

    If someone is sick, I would think helping them would be the act of kindness and love. Admonishing people for being sick and dying is cruel and stupid. It will actually happen to you at one point or another, that’s a guarantee. Belief in one entity or another does not prevent sickness. We should be much better people and show kindness towards the sick, not pride in our own holiness at being lucky enough not to get this sickness, knowing full well, everyone will die of one thing or another.

  9. Trump threatens countries, voters, and mocks Congress and the rule of law. Meanwhile, more and Americans are unable to afford sending their children to college, and healthcare costs are racing Elon’s car into space. SS benefits don’t increase with the true cost of living – and we get? PR for a scam artist.

      1. “There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn’t true, and the other is to disbelieve what is.”

        1. Thanks for the head’s up. Now, back to my comment: Please provide an example of how President Trump is mocking the rule of law. Once you do that, then we can determine who the fool might be.

          P.S. I’m biased toward the rule of law; so if evidence exists where the President is violating it, then I want it called out.

          1. Muellar will provide plenty of evidence for you to deny, but for now, you’ll just have to be content with Trump’s
            mocking the rule of law. e.g.
            (CNN)President Donald Trump wasn’t — and, apparently, still isn’t — happy that Democrats in Congress didn’t stand to applaud him in his State of the Union address last week.

            Here’s what Trump told a crowd in Cincinnati in a speech on Monday afternoon:
            “They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, ‘treasonous.’ I mean, Yeah, I guess why not? Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean they certainly didn’t seem to love our country that much.”

            1. Mueller will provide… That’s it? Come on Bill, if you’re going to make a statement that President Trump is mocking the rule of law, then at least provide the evidence to support it. If you have the evidence then why would I deny it? Maybe you have no idea what you’re looking for.

              1. You either didn’t read what I posted or else you didn’t comprehend it.

                  1. Olly person

                    Please post an example of Trump speaking positively about the rule of law, not mocking it.

                  2. Didn’t think you could, but that’s okay. I’m sure Trump has probably said SOMETHING about the rule of law that wasn’t in a mocking tone. After all, he’s gotta be worried about any charges against himself, his eldest son, and CO-President Kushner…although he probably secretly hopes his rival for Ivanka’s attention gets busted.

  10. The country is facing a raging flu crisis with rising deaths over one of the severe seasons in decades.

    So we have a raging flu crisis this season despite all of the secular efforts made to combat it and yet we are to believe a televangelist calling for prayer is to be the one scapegoated? Apparently your goderment has failed their congregation, and so the obvious thing to do is blame those that pray to God for good health and/or healing. Personally, I don’t go to my Pastor for medical advice and I don’t go to my doctor for spiritual advice.

  11. Just another huckster, that’s after money that old and poor people don’t have. I’m sure she is using the Pat Robertson model, send me money, and I will pray for you. From my private plane.

  12. Much like prosperity theology, good health is just a matter of prayer. So if you are not wealthy and healthy, you obviously did not pray enough. It’s your fault, not God’s. (can I get an AMEN?!)

  14. Kenneth Copeland is a false prophet. The flu can be contained by taking the “Pirate Soup”

    1 can of chicken noodle soup, add garlic cloves, Jalapeno peppers, 3 tea spoons of hot & spicy mustard & a pinch of black gun powder. Problem solved for under $5.00.

    1. Christian Scientists tend to croak early.

      Another application of Darwin’s Law.

    2. omg, Squeeky and I have a point of agreement!

      You can find out what’s in the flu shot by reading the long insert. Go to a nearby drug store that gets paid by the pharmaceutical company for giving the vaccine. You don’t want the short form that is intended to mislead by omission, but the long form. You will probably have to insist. Then look up the ingredients. Also, take a look at the possible side effects listed on the insert. There have been a number of deaths of children who were vaccinated, got the flu, and were given tamiflu.

      At the next outbreak of a childhood disease, pay attention to which children get it and which do not. I have been paying attention to this for quite some time and it has been consistent that those who were vaccinated have the disease and those who rely on a healthy immune system do not.

              1. You really think that flu shots are free? Wow, but you must live in a very nice and special place! Where people make flu vaccine for free, and ship it for free, and store it for free, and then give the shots for free, in little syringes that were made for free! There must be little Flu Shot Elves somewhere that are doing all those nice things! And very nice Flu Shot Elves at that, who don’t even ask for cookies and milk!

                My goodness, but you still aren’t thinking about things at all. Do your research like I told you. There is no such thing as a Free Flu Shot!

                Squeeky Fromm
                Girl Reporter

      2. Bettykath:

        You may be interested in this study of completely vaccinated vs completely unvaccinated children:

        https://web.archive.org/web/20170504215400/http://oatext.com/Pilot-comparative-study-on-the-health-of-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-6-to-12-year-old-U.S.-children.php

        It suggests that vaccinated children have a statistically higher incidence of chronic illness and neurological disorders. However, they also have lower instances of whooping cough.

        Without vaccines, polio and smallpox would still be a modern scourge. I support the practice of vaccination. But they are not saline, and any medical intervention for kids, including vaccines, should always be the parent’s choice. They are designed to stimulate the immune system more than the tiny volume of killed virus or protein would do on its own. Sometimes they over stimulate the immune system.

        I personally cannot take the flu shot, and neither can my father. Although my reaction was serious, most doctors I’ve had through the years did not believe me, and in fact I was pressured hard to have the flu shot when I was pregnant. I’m not a Christian Scientist, nor do I Pray the Germs Away, but the medical community seems unusually resistant to informing themselves about bad reactions, or being ready to recognize one and act immediately. Mere readiness would allay concerns of many in the vaccine ambiguous community.

        Neomycin, one of the antibiotics in the flu shot and some other vaccines, was named the Allergen of the Year a few years ago. Apparently, 10% of people will develop an allergy to Neomycin, which is also an ingredient in Neosporin. And yet, the flu shot is still recommended for them.

        I am particularly concerned about the new approach in the works regarding a universal flu vaccine. It inserts DNA into our own to make us produce flu proteins, so that our immune system would recognize the flu no matter how many times it mutated. It might work quite well, but I don’t know enough about which technology they are using, such as if it is CRISPR. I think that is Pandora’s Box, and can have some really bad unintended consequences on down the line.

        1. Oh, and Bettykath:

          “omg, Squeeky and I have a point of agreement!” You know I’m framing this, right?

    3. yeah Squeek, Gandhi comes to mind

      “When Gandhi’s wife was stricken with pneumonia, British doctors told her husband that a shot of penicillin would heal her; nevertheless, Gandhi refused to have alien medicine injected into her body, and she died. Soon after, Gandhi caught malaria and, relenting from the standard applied to his wife, allowed doctors to save his life with quinine. He also allowed British doctors to perform an appendectomy on him, an alien operation if ever there was one”

      This is from the Harvard Crimson – 1983 – back before it became PC – actually citing a Conservative film reviewer – good read!

      The Truth About Gandhi

      http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1983/3/7/the-truth-about-gandhi-pbtbhe-movie/

      1. Gandhi was maybe doing his wife a favor. I read somewhere that Indians have this custom called “settee”, where women who outlive their husbands have to sit on a couch in the parlor for the rest of their lives.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

  16. (music and lyrics to tune of My Boomerang Won’t Come Back)

    I … will…. never get the flu!
    Oh, yeah, eat dick too.
    Oh yeah.
    I’m .. the … biggest disgrace to the Aborigine race…
    I’ll never get the flu.

  17. That’s a stupid and dangerous statement. It could end up killing some of her parishioners. She needs to be responsible and either retract or “clarify” her comment.

  18. She needs to be in the hospital I was in which was at 400% capacity (stacking beds in the hallways). She is an idiot. I am sure God will save you from STDs, too.

    1. hmm, you may have hit on something Paul. Knowing that all too often these prosperity preachers like fallen wimmen (and rent boys) who’s to say he didn’t bring home syphilis and she’s gone mad?

    1. Yup, yup, yup. And, parades too; all that stuff. This is what unbridled angst comes up with. Our peer nations have them on the fringes. We have them in the White House.

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