MSNBC Analyst: Trump Will Resign In Two Weeks

the-crystal-ball-1902I am always surprised by commentators who not only predict a historic event but put a specific date on its occurrence.  Rudy Giuliani of course predicted that the Mueller investigation would be over by September 1, 2018 (though he insists that Robert Mueller gave him that date). Now, Scott Dworkin, a Democratic strategist and MSNBC contributor, has gone one better and predicted that Trump will resign in two weeks due to the plea bargain struck by former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort and Mueller. Most people would hedge at least to say “by the end of the year” or “before his term is up.”  A fortnight prediction now puts Dworkin on the verge of being declared a political Nostradamus or nincompoop.  

In anticipation of the cooperative deal, Dworkin went to  Twitter to announce the new:

Scott Dworkin

@funder

If Manafort flips, I bet @realDonaldTrump will resign within 2 weeks of a deal.

Of course, we still do not know if Manafort has anything of real value against Trump.  He was not known as a close confidant and only served as chair for a couple of months.

Moreover, if Manafort had the goods on Trump, why would he resign? Being president would likely deter Mueller from indicting Trump during his term. Resigning would allow for an immediate charge.  The only risk avoided would be impeachment, but it is incarceration that presents the greatest personal risk.  Finally, Trump could well lose an impeachment but win a Senate trial if the GOP keeps a majority or even a near majority.

In other words, Pence might want to hold back from actually packing up boxes and picking out curtain colors.

133 thoughts on “MSNBC Analyst: Trump Will Resign In Two Weeks”

  1. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/17/trump-orders-feds-to-declassify-key-fisa-documents-text-messages-in-fbi-russia-probe.html

    Trump orders feds to declassify key FISA documents, text messages in FBI Russia probe

    Samuel Chamberlain11 hours ago
    Trump declassifies key Russia probe documents, texts

    President Trump orders declassification of the FISA warrant for Carter Page, FBI interviews with Bruce Ohr and text messages relating to the Russia investigation of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Bruce Ohr.

    President Trump on Monday ordered the declassification of several key documents related to the FBI investigation of Russian actions during the 2016 presidential election, including 21 pages of an application for a renewed surveillance warrant against former campaign aide Carter Page, and text messages from disgraced FBI figures Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

    White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said Trump had ordered the documents released by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and the Justice Department “[a]t the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency.”

    The documents to be declassified also include all FBI reports on interviews with Justice Department official Bruce Ohr and all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all other applications to surveil Carter Page.

    Trump also ordered the Justice Department to release text messages from a number of the key players in the Russia investigation “without redaction” — including Ohr, Strzok, Lisa Page, former FBI Director James Comey and former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

    The 21 pages only make up a small part of the 412 pages of FISA applications and warrants related to Page released by the FBI earlier this year in heavily redacted format. The June 2017 application was the last of four filed by the Justice Department in support of FISA court orders allowing the monitoring of Page for nearly a year.

    According to the redacted version, three of the declassified pages involve information included in a section titled “The Russian Government’s Coordinated Efforts to Influence the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election.” That section includes reference to potential coordination between people associated with Trump’s campaign and the Russian election interference effort.

    The other 18 pages appear to relate to information the government submitted that came from former British spy Christopher Steele, who compiled a dossier detailing the Trump campaign’s alleged ties to Russia. The document has been a partisan lightning rod since it was published in January 2017.

    Carter Page told Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Monday night that the FBI’s investigation was “so incredibly stupid to begin with.” He added, “My biggest concern is all the damage that this did to the U.S. government [and] the mockery it made out of the Constitution and all of the wrongdoing that was done by various officials within the Department of Justice, the FBI and the DNC [Democratic National Committee].”

    It was not immediately clear when or how the documents would be released. A source familiar with the timing of the declassification told Fox News that they expected the Carter Page warrant application to be declassified first, followed by the FBI reports on agent interviews with Ohr.

    The source added that the Justice Department is working on a “compressed timeline” and they expect the first release of records in days or sooner. The text messages are expected to take longer because of the sheer number involved and the fact that Trump ordered their release without redactions.

    A Justice Department spokesperson told Fox News that the DOJ and FBI “are already working with the Director of National Intelligence to comply with the President’s order.”

    ODNI spokesperson Kellie Wade told Fox News: “As requested by the White House, the ODNI is working expeditiously with our interagency partners to conduct a declassification review of the documents the President has identified for declassification.”

    Congressional sources told Fox News that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., does not know how soon he will get the documents, but said Trump’s order covers “pretty much everything that he wanted … and the text messages are a bonus.”

    According to the sources, Nunes added: “Wow! This is a direct order.”

    House Intelligence Committee ranking member Adam Schiff, D-Calif., called Trump’s decision “a clear abuse of power.”

    “[Trump] has decided to intervene in a pending law enforcement investigation by ordering the selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team and thinks will advance a false narrative,” Schiff said. “With respect to some of these materials, I have been previously informed by the FBI and Justice Department that they would consider their release a red line that must not be crossed as they may compromise sources and methods.

    “This is evidently of no consequence to a President who cares about nothing about the country and everything about his narrow self-interest,” Schiff added.

    Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., the leader of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, praised Trump’s order to declassify the documents.

    “As Congress has investigated, we’ve continued to see more and more troubling evidence suggesting multiple senior level FBI and DOJ officials acted in a deeply unethical fashion during the 2016 campaign and throughout the early stages of the Trump administration,” Meadows said. “Enough is enough–the time for full transparency is now. Let’s bring the full truth to light, while protecting sources and methods, and allow the American people to judge for themselves.”

    Meadows is one of 12 GOP members of Congress who earlier this month publicly asked Trump to declassify the June 2017 application for a warrant against Carter Page as well as the FBI reports of interviews with Ohr, known in bureaucratic parlance as “Form 302s.”

    Reps. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., and Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. — the ranking members of the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees, respectively — said Trump’s “reckless and irresponsible decision” was “a desperate attempt to distract from … the mounting evidence of multiple criminal enterprises among his closest advisors.

    “For the past year, Republicans in Congress have been running interference for President Trump, promoting baseless conspiracy theories, mischaracterizing numerous documents, and attacking our law enforcement and intelligence officials,” Cummings and Nadler added. “This effort has been devoid of facts, but it has been incredibly destructive to our democracy.”

    On Sunday, Nunes told Fox News that witness interview transcripts and other documents from the House Intelligence Committee’s now-concluded Russia investigation should be made public before November’s midterm elections.

    “If the president wants the American people to really understand just how broad and invasive this investigation has been to many Americans and how unfair it has been, he has no choice but to declassify,” Nunes said on “Sunday Morning Futures.”

    House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., said last week that it would be “beneficial” for Americans to see those documents.

    Trump made a similar move in February when the White House, over the objections of the FBI and intelligence community, cleared the way for the Republican-led House intelligence committee to release a partisan memo about the surveillance warrant on Carter Page. Democrats weeks later released their own memo.

    The disclosures were unprecedented given that surveillance warrants obtained from the secret court are highly classified and are not meant to be publicly disclosed, including to defendants preparing for or awaiting trial.

    Fox News’ Jake Gibson, John Roberts, Catherine Herridge and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

  2. I’d say the following likely provides some insight into the Manafort agreement.

    1) His attorney pointedly intimated that this [the plea deal] concerns events from many years ago and everyone should keep this in mind. Logically, this would preclude Trump campaign related information. This is not to say he won’t be asked just that he likely doesn’t have actionable information in this regard.

    2) The deal still results in significant prison time for Manafort. Let’s assume Manafort really has definitive evidence of “collusion” regarding Trump or other definitively incriminating evidence–does anyone think he would cut a deal that still likely results in him spending the rest of his life in prison? If Manafort did have such evidence, you’d likely see something much closer to the sweetheart deal that Gates got.

    The likely upshot of the above is that the Manafort deal will provide Mueller additional avenues to explore re Trump’s inner circle and potentially actionable information re Podesta, Craig, Skadden etc.

  3. The Trump administration / U.S. Government constitute a Zionist Nazi regime

    The American people have been duped, the U.S. / Israeli invasions are illegal wars.
    As the U.S. / Israeli invasions are Crimes of Aggression, the U.S. & Israel have Zionist Nazi Governments, fascist entities.
    The U.S. & Israel have committed the same crimes as the German Nazis; Wars of Aggression, War Crimes & Crimes Against Humanity.

    The Afghanistan War: Legal or Illegal?

    When can a war be legal?

    1. Self-defense
    2. Authorization by the U.N. Security Council

    The invasion of Afghanistan was not for self-defense
    Authorization was not given by the U.N. Security Council

    Therefore by not meeting either point of criteria the War on Afghanistan is ILLEGAL

    “The United States isn’t a party to the ICC Rome Statute, but Afghanistan is. Therefore, the International Criminal Court could take jurisdiction over individuals who allegedly committed crimes in Afghanistan.”

  4. Wishful thinking on the part of a light thinking partisan.

    Wonder what the odds would be on that bet in Vegas/

  5. Nine Trillion in debt increase and you didn’t notice?????? How could you miss nine trillion increase in debt?

    Bush II even with a war support still was in the position of ‘we’ll do better than this time you can trust us but by them we had figured out he was a RINO aka the right wing of the left . That was twice the GOP had hoodwinked the general public That’s when our numbers really started to grow and we began discussions on invoking the military’s oath of allegiance. Obama using a system – cycle of repression – modified See Carlois Marighella of Brazil and Tupamaro Movement in Uruguay in the sixties and a simplle phrase … never let a good crisis go to waste led to exactly what I stated and you did not refute. borrow spend, inflate, devalue and repudiate the debt) your punky magic overnight 10% to 5% had nothing to do with Obama except they may have quit using Clionton Methodology in figuring unemployment but was more to do with getting rid of the left.

    So whine all you want Doubing down and repeating the cycle of repression again was Hillary’s plan and that’s why we went into full counter revolution mode. We took 40% your bunch a bit more than 30% and the GOP a bit less than 30%. which ended up in real terms as 55% Constitutional Republic hiring Trump and 45% to oust the left.

    We ain’t done yet. I hope you sucks do ignore us again. and hey we did it on zero cost budget and no charge advice from the US Miitary’s foremost experts on revolutions and counter revolutions. They were not too happy with Obamas demanding they get ready for live fire exercises with the citizens as targets

    Better we you you as targets of opportunity as we did in 2016.

    So much for your leftist garbage.

    1. Michael, were you commenting under the influence here?

      Were don’t have your Cliff Notes to make any sense of this.

    2. Incomprehensible; but typical. Please call a cab or Uber; don’t drive home in that condition. Thanks for playing.

      this is to “damn, the fumes from the meth cook got to me again” mikey

  6. I hope Trump resigns. I think Pence would be a good leader of the pack. Then he could get two more terms. Twelve years for Pence. None for Hillary, Bernie, or other Dem slime dogs. The true story of Trump having sex with a male dog will come out by Manafart testimony.

    1. Liberty2nd – there is a very funny Tweet out today from Obama in 2016 saying that there was no way Trump was going to bring jobs back. Now Obama is trying to take responsibility for Trump’s economy. Pence does not have that charisma. I am sure that after 8 years of Trump, there will be 8 years of Pence, but charisma wise it is the difference between FDR and Harry Truman.

      1. Paul, this current expansion began in June of 2009. By the time Trump entered the White House, the expansion was already 6.5 years old. Only Fox viewers could think the expansion began with Trump.

        And I would advise you to wait until after the midterm election before predicting a second term for Trump. If Democrats take the house, that means subpoena time for Trump! How he survives is anybody’s guess.

        1. Peter Hill – the same thing that happened to Bill Clinton when he was impeached. In the generic poll Dems are up by 4 that is not much or even enough.

          1. In 1998, the Lewinsky revelations first emerged in January. Clinton’s popularity tanked shorty thereafter. But by August of ’98, when Clinton admitted he lied, the public no longer cared. Democrats then made surprising gains in the midterm election.

            Newt Gingrich later explained how Republicans didn’t foresee that 24 hour news coverage (of the Lewinsky affair) would eventually bore the public. In other words, the public reached what is known as an, “Oh shut up”, moment. That moment came about largely because there were no more revelations to hold public interest.

            But I don’t see any of those dynamics working in Trump’s favor. Sure, Republicans reached their “Oh shut up” moment long ago with the Russia Probe. Democrats and Independents, however, can’t get enough. What’s more, the Manafort and Cohen pleas are sure to provide many revelations to come. Those revelations will hold public interest long after the midterms.

            1. Peter Hill,
              ..- In the 1998 midterm elections, there was no change in the 55-45 GOP Senate majority.
              The GOP lost 4 or 5 seats in the House, maintaining a 223-211 majority.
              Overall, the 1998 election was a wash.
              There were no ” surprizing gains in the midterm election” by the Democrats.

              1. Tom, it was surprising in the sense that Democrats picked up seats in the House. The Lewinsky scandal could have been a disaster for the Democrats. But the Democrats actually did better in ’98 than they did in ’14, Obama’s second midterm.

                Here’s how Wikipedia describes the ’98 midterms:

                “The 1998 United States Senate elections were a even contest between the Republican and Democratic parties. While the Democrats had to defend more seats up for election, Republican attacks on the morality of President Bill Clinton failed to connect with voters and anticipated Republican gains did not materialize.

                The Republicans picked up open seats in Ohio and Kentucky and narrowly defeated Democratic incumbent Carol Moseley Braun (Illinois), but these were cancelled out by the Democrats’ gain of an open seat in Indiana and defeats of Republican Senators Al D’Amato (New York) and Lauch Faircloth (North Carolina). The balance of the Senate remained unchanged at 55–45 in favor of the Republicans. With Democrats gaining five seats in the House of Representatives, this marked the first time since 1934 that the out-of-presidency party failed to gain congressional seats in a mid-term election, and the first time since 1822 that the party not in control of the White House failed to gain seats in the mid-term election of a President’s second term. These are the last senate elections that resulted in no net change in the balance of power”.

                The significant sentence here is:

                “This marked the first time since 1934 that the out-of-presidency party failed to gain congressional seats in a mid-term election”.

                So I stand by my description of ’98 as a surprise.

            2. Disregarding the porn the only flaw is too much time to serve fill in and then eight and second let Trump draw all the fireworks as he spit cans more and more leaving Pence many successess on which to build. Sorriy you had to turn it into a sick joke.

          2. When Bush said Read My Lips then caved the real moderates and Constitutionalist dropped their support and began organizing a non party party and got rid of him. Clinton’s big deal was heavily supported by passing debt figures over to the next guy among them inflating the TBill dividends and passing their eventual pay off to the next guy. His balanced budget used the White House Budget and not the CBO Budget and never came close to the OMB Budget.. Bush II conned enouugh votes to get in but was a RINO through and through. After that and the Obama disaster featuring destroying a huge number of small banks and running the cycle of economic repression – borrow, spend, inflate, devalue and repudiate the debt your hero ended up with 1.6% increase in GDP, a loss in NDP, COLA that sent down to zero point two percent and a 30 perecent loss in value of the dollar with a corresponding increase in price of food.

            speakinig to Hill and the war mongers (another FDR trait) in support of Paul.

        2. I’ve seen charts of the # of jobs created for each month, since before the big recession. Once we climbed out of the hole, the figure has been pretty consistent from month to month, over the last several years. Certainly nothing dramatic has happened since Trump was elected.

            1. Allan………Great video….thanks so much. Of course Obama lied about that …Remember how he would fill in the basketball tournament brackets each year…….and the the slobbering media would transfer his brackets onto posters to show on tv? The media was SO excited each year.
              That really helped the country, didn’t it?!

        3. Obama’s non expansion was caused by simple basic economics. excessive borrowing, (which lowers basic money suppy) inflation with lessens the value of the money called deflation, and repudiation of the debt meaning the elderly and the retirees retirement income dropped 30%. Add to that the point zero two COLA and it comes up stagflation. Try going to school.

          Next I’m going to rash NBC annointing Trump as God.

          Really ought to try getting an education one of these days or maybe you did and just paid for social promotion. But subjectivism???? Objectivism will win every time while your other world mystic fantasy fairy tails aren’t good enough to make a Hollywierd screen play rejected list.

          1. Michael, Unemployment reached a recession high of almost 10% in October of 2009. By the time Trump took office it was close to 5%.

            And you call that a ‘non-expansion”..?????

            What’s more, your claims about excessive borrowing don’t make any sense. Show me an article from Fortune, Forbes or WSJ supporting your claim there. I’d be very interested in seeing what you’re really talking about.

        4. Peter, the economy fell drastically. After an economic fall the economy eventually goes up irrespective of who is president. That is the nature of the cyclical economy we have. After the fall there is a recovery which historically is greater the greater the fall. That was not seen with Obama which should cause people to question why that didn’t happen.

          Since you don’t question why certain things didn’t happen what we have to do is compare metrics and trends something you avoid.

          Don’t worry. A lot of metrics and trends have been simplified for you using real graphs depicting what is happening to the economy. It was trending poorly under Obama and great under Trump. Here is that video you have avoided watching from the CEA.(Council of Economic advisers)

          1. Allan, there is no such thing as “the economy” under the American Constitution and the sole role of the government is to facilitate freedom and free enterprise as conducted by free American individuals.

            Free enterprise is private property and the government has absolutely no purview. The government has no constitutional authority to provide funding, otherwise intercede in, possess or dispose of private property other than through Eminent Domain including compensation.

            The government has absolutely no authority to regulate free enterprise other than to assure the velocity of commerce by precluding any bias or favor for particular entities or states.

            Private property means private property.

            Commerce means commerce the whole commerce and nothing but commerce – not any aspect or facet of the design, engineering, production or marketing of widgets.

            What you are referencing are the principles of the Communist Manifesto.

            Are you a communist?

            1. You left out that neither women or black people can vote.

              this is to “damn, they caught me slippin'” georgie

            2. George, you seem to have missed what was said. Can you point out those points that you are having difficulty with?

                1. “I just asked 4 freshmen…”

                  “Now Washington state has quite a decent public school system and WSU students come from the upper ranks of their graduating classes.”

                  – David B. Benson
                  _________________________________________________________________________________________

                  So, Benson, you are a parasitic public worker living off of the public dole? Who’d a thunk? Help me out here.

                  Can you pay taxes with taxes? Is it possible for workers paid with collected tax dollars to pay taxes with the tax

                  dollars they just received? Can one pay taxes with taxes? So you don’t actually pay taxes, right?

                  Should a public worker who is paid by elected officials be allowed to vote for those elected officials?

                  Now you understand why the American Founders gave Americans a “…republic, if you can keep it,” Ben Franklin.

                  A republic is not one man, one vote democracy; it is representative governance “…in which supreme power

                  resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote.”

                  The American Founders intended for criteria to be met by voters.

                  I doubt being on the public dole is a criterion.
                  ___________________________________________________
                  Merriam Webster

                  Republic

                  b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law

              1. Whatever incoherence you uttered is entirely moot.

                You began with the “economy” from the perspective of the government.

                The government has no authority or purview over free individuals or free enterprise or their enterprise activities

                collectively.

                You have no grasp of American freedom, free enterprise, private property, “…in exclusion of every other indivdual…,”

                and severely limited government – limited to security and infrastructure – a government that exists solely to facilitate

                the freedom of individuals and free enterprise.

                Please cite the Article and Section wherein the government is given authority to dictate the dynamics of the

                “economy”

                It does not exist.

                Regulation is strictly limited to regulation of the velocity of commerce (i.e. trade, interaction) to assure freedom of

                commerce and that no bias or favor is granted to any particular entity or state.

                Allen, have you ever heard of the Constitution and its “manifest tenor?”

                The entire redistributionist and socially engineered American welfare state is unconstitutional.

                1. “Whatever incoherence you uttered is entirely moot….” blah, blah, blah

                  In your fog your reception of information appears totally whacked out. I dealt with the results of Trumps policies compared to the former President. What Trump did was to reduce the regulations of an ever growing government. That shows more respect for the Constitution and the freedoms of individuals. I called for nothing that would interfere with the Constitutions or our legitimate freedoms.

                  If your fog ever clears and the dellusions disappear with the fog maybe then we can talk. Right now you are flying too high in the clouds.

        1. Jay S – he lies like FDR and JFK and has the charisma of both. Have you seen the Google day after the election “we are in f**king mourning” video? It is clear they were doing some diddling with the product in the background to help Hillary win. Talk about being in the tank. 😉

          1. PC Schulte,..
            – What will happen to Jay S.’s neurons if somebody compares Trump to Lincoln?😉😄

            1. Did you say, “Crazy Abe” Lincoln?”
              ____________________________

              Abraham Lincoln was a communist.

              To wit,

              “Unless, of course, we bother to examine the tattered copies of the American outlet for Marx’s revolutionary preachments during the period when Lincoln was preparing to leave the political wilderness and make his march to the presidency. That journal, the New York Tribune, was the most consistently influential of nineteenth-century American newspapers. Indeed, this was the newspaper that engineered the unexpected and in many ways counterintuitive delivery of the Republican nomination for president, in that most critical year of 1860, to an Illinoisan who just two years earlier had lost the competition for a home-state U.S. Senate seat…

              Lincoln’s involvement was not just with Greeley but with his sub-editors and writers, so much so that the first Republican president appointed one of Greeley’s most radical lieutenants—the Fourier- and Proudhon-inspired socialist and longtime editor of Marx’s European correspondence, Charles Dana—as his assistant secretary of war.

              Long before 1848, German radicals had begun to arrive in Illinois, where they quickly entered into the legal and political circles in which Lincoln traveled. One of them, Gustav Korner, was a student revolutionary at the University of Munich who had been imprisoned by German authorities…

              Within a decade, Korner would pass the Illinois bar, win election to the legislature and be appointed to the state Supreme Court. Korner and Lincoln formed an alliance that would become so close that the student revolutionary from Frankfurt would eventually be one of seven personal delegates-at-large named by Lincoln to serve at the critical Republican State Convention in May 1860, which propelled the Springfield lawyer into that year’s presidential race. Through Korner, Lincoln met and befriended many of the German radicals who, after the failure of the 1848 revolution, fled to Illinois and neighboring Wisconsin. Along with Korner on Lincoln’s list of personal delegates-at-large to the 1860 convention was Friedrich Karl Franz Hecker, a lawyer from Mannheim who had served as a liberal legislator in the lower chamber of the Baden State Assembly before leading an April 1848 uprising in the region—an uprising cheered on by the newspaper Marx briefly edited during that turbulent period, Neue Rheinische Zeitung—Organ der Demokratie.

              The failure of the 1848 revolts, and the brutal crackdowns that followed, led many leading European radicals to take refuge in the United States, and Lincoln’s circle of supporters would eventually include some of Karl Marx’s closest associates and intellectual sparring partners, including Joseph Weydemeyer and August Willich.”
              ____________________________________________________________________________

              Yes, “Crazy Abe” not only read Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto, “Crazy Abe” lived Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto.

              1. Let’s start with a quick timeline of Lincoln and Marx. Americans are so ignorant of history that they often do not realize that Marx and Lincoln were contemporaries.

                – Lincoln born: February 12, 1809
                – Marx born: May 5, 1818
                – Marx publishes a book about Emancipation: 1843
                – Marx expelled from France as a radical: 1845
                – Lincoln elected to US House: 1846
                – Marx publishes the Communist Manifesto: February 1848
                – Marx is a contributor to the New York Tribune (Lincoln’s favorite newspaper), 1851-1861
                – Lincoln runs for U.S. Senate vs. Douglas, famous Lincoln-Douglas debates occur: 1858
                – Lincoln becomes US President: 1860
                – Civil War Starts: 1861
                – Emancipation Proclamation: January 1, 1863

        2. Curious comment but not objective and no facts to support such an odd statement.

        3. The notion that Trump is like either FDR or HST is eroding my neurons.

          For the wrong reasons.

          FDR had very little history of private sector employment prior to age 40 – just a half-dozen years of p/t law practice. It was at that point he landed a position at an insurance company by leveraging connections. He did that sort of work for about six years.

          As for Truman, he had a frustrating work life prior to being recruited by the Prendergast machine at age 39. Clerical jobs, a trying and unremunerative decade farming, and an ultimately unsuccessful turn as a small merchant.

          So, yeah, not like Trump.

      2. second that. Truman dropped nuclear weapons only one in history to do so and FDR was on outright fascist socialist . Obama didn’t has doesn’t have brains to make puppy pops. His entire history is suspect.

    2. I suppose it was your dog, Liberty, and you’d like him to give you big $$$$$ to go away! Lol!

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