Idaho Republican lieutenant governor candidate Bob Nonini has triggered a firestorm after saying that women who get an abortion should be criminally prosecuted and indicated that that could include the death penalty. If it seems a tad conflicted to execute someone in the name of being pro-life, Nonini seems to be still trying to thread that needle with a later effort to walk back from his comments.
Nonini, a three term state senator from Coeur d’Alene, made the comments during a Monday candidate forum in Moscow hosted by the conservative Christian podcast CrossPolitic. Nonini decided to put himself on the farthest possible extreme in declaring that “There should be no abortion and anyone who has an abortion should pay.” When asked if that would include the death penalty, Nonini nodded in agreement and later confirmed the position in the call with The Associated Press.
Nonini was predictably buried in criticism and later tried to repair the damage with a new statement: “Prosecutions have always been focused on the abortionist. There is no way a woman would go to jail let alone face the death penalty. The statute alone, the threat of prosecution, would dramatically reduce abortion. That is my goal.”
That did not actually reverse his view that the death penalty would be warranted but said that it was not likely. He also added that his wife, Cathyanne, does not position on executing women who have had abortions.
Notably, Nonini has emphasized his Roman Catholic values but the Pope has opposed the death penalty as well as abortion as part of a holistic pro-life view.
How about castration for rapists?
No cruel or unusual punishment.
NEWSFLASH –
“Crazy Mazie” Failed to Report a Crime as Lieutenant Governor of Hawaii
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“A female aviation school alum named Deborah Reid said that Hawaii senator Mazie Hirono covered up sexist harassment at a flight school program that Hirono created in 1998 as lieutenant governor.
Reid said that all female members of the class dropped out after they were “emotionally and verbally abused” by a male flight instructor, who went on to a successful career in the industry.
Reid said that she personally brought information about the harassment to Hirono, and Hirono heard her concerns. But male students in the class delivered a petition to Hirono defending their instructor and the workplace environment, and Ms. Reid’s case did not go forward.”
TO THOSE WHO SAID I WAS LYING
There are several google entries on this subject. This FOX story is deceptive for not tying it to the anti-abortion forces or Republicans. I only used FOX because the deplorables here won’t believe any other sources.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/in-7-us-states-rape-victims-can-be-legally-forced-to-share-custody-of-their-children-with-their-rapist-fathers
The subject here is rapists getting child visitation rights.
Peter Hill – I just wanted the cite and you gave it. Thank you. It really is an interesting legal problem. According to the article the states don’t allow it as much as they just don’t disallow it. So, there is this gray area. However, if the rapist wants visitation, he must pay child support. Comes with the territory. You have to man up.
PCS, thank you for the clarification. I was wondering why we were so blessed with the departure of Peter Hill then you defined PH. One can never count one’s chickens before they hatch, right?
George , your comments are consistently the most nonsensical on this thread; just an over-the-top, deplorable Trumper.
Thanks for reading. Sorry I can’t say the same. The Communist Manifesto has been passe for, what, a hundred years now.
We all understand that dependent parasites, such as yourself, want your financial success guaranteed, your social status maintained and your bills paid by the government. Best of luck with that. Unfortunatley for you, the Constitution doesn’t work like that. The American thesis is Freedom and Self-Reliance. Try it, you’ll like it; especially when the alternative is extinction.
“TO THOSE WHO SAID I WAS LYING”
You were, not about all issues, but your essential point wasn’t true.
Recognize that the right of speech doesn’t suddenly disappear because one committed a crime. Certain decisions and laws regarding rape and a child that results from rape might not be the best and we might agree on that point. However, the singular most important item that has to be considered is what is best for the child that is a alive and breathing today. You constantly focus on the ideology of death and in this case after the child is born you continue focus on your politics rather than on the child.
Allan you once said you were not necessarily against abortion. What’s your problem, anyway?? It seems like an obsessive desire to get the last word no matter how trite your comments might be.
Peter, abortion is not a simple issue. I understand what it means, something you appear reluctant to accept. I also understand the individual future mother. So the answer is yes, my ideas on abortion are mixed, but my ideas as to how we should feel about it are quite strong.
If a woman thinks that her offspring isn’t good enough for this world so be it.
Well, that’s extreme. That is about the farthest along the spectrum it is possible to get, and a good example of how extremism is ruinous.
COMMENTS HERE ARE IN KEEPING WITH SUBJECT OF COLUMN
Scanning the comments on this thread, one can see many viewpoints not far removed from the state senator in question.
As I noted earlier, rhetoric commonly used by the anti-abortion forces like ‘murder’, ‘slaughter’ and ‘cold blooded killers’ undoubtedly contributes to a climate where it’s not a stretch for state senators to call for ‘executions”.
No wonder liberals were totally united in their opposition of Judge Kavanaugh. Liberals fear that a conservative court will unleash puritanical forces determined to jail women and doctors.
Your fears are misplaced. If we had 9 Kavanaugh’s on the court no women would be going to jail.
“…unleash puritanical forces…”
Oh yeah. Like the American Founders, right? I get it. Like the original intent of the Framers of the Constitution. I get that. Like the way America is supposed to be according to fundamental law. I get that. Americans, all humans, are intended to stop procreation, stop growing the national population, kill their babies and import their nation’s population. I get it. What do they teach in public schools and institutions of higher learning these days, state suicide?
“That dudn’t make any sense!”
– George W. Bush
Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United States have all experienced a “death spiral” in fertility rates.
There is no future in a falling birthrate and abortion.
If a falling birthrate is bad, I would ask you: What is the maximum population you think this country could (or should) support? 2X the current number? 10X? No limit at all?
The population of Americans is appropriate.
The population of hyphenates is superfluous.
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The safety of a republic depends “…essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment, on a uniformity of principles and habits, on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice, and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education and family.”
“…a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
“The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
– Alexander Hamilton
Peter Hill – Release the Kraken!!! Bring me Roe v Wade to overturn!!!
Overturning RvW leaves abortion legality up to each state. How would you prevent women from crossing state (or even national) borders, if they want to have an abortion? Pregnancy tests at each border crossing? All young women to be monitored by the government, to see if they are pregnant? Seriously, just how would you sequester young women so that they could not go somewhere else to have an abortion?
“How would you prevent women from crossing state (or even national) borders, if they want to have an abortion?”
That is the point and the reason this screaming about Roe Vs Wade is garbage and almost meaningless while the nation suffers. It probably should never have been a federal issue and the federal courts probably should have left it alone.
Jay S – it is just to rile up the liberals. 😉
“No wonder liberals were totally united in their opposition of Judge Kavanaugh. Liberals fear that a conservative court will unleash puritanical forces determined to jail women and doctors.”
Wait a moment. The Liberals on the committee said that they felt that believed Dr Ford’s story that Kavanaugh was a rapist. Are you telling me that this was a ploy, and their opposition was actually against his judicial philosophy and personal beliefs on abortion? I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.
For those interested in what the baby looks like on ultrasound week by week during the first trimester….enjoy
The medical science of Embryology has shown us much even if Abortionists reject the science
https://www.parents.com/pregnancy/stages/fetal-development/first-trimester-images-of-your-developing-baby/
Thank you, Nancy. Such sweet pictures.
No one cares about how much you want to control women’s bodies. You really just want to “teach those sluts to keep their knees together” or some other such 1950s hokum. I suggest you get a hobby, or better yet, just die the f*ck off. The days when women were the chattel property of their nearest male relative are done. You’re merely some wackjob misogynist using a female screen name because you can’t get the time of day from a modern woman; so sorry for your loss. If you are a female, then I suggest you lose weight, mix in a salad, and take the stairs once in a while.
this is to “ewwwwww, I wanna teach those popular girls a lesson!” “nancy”
First sentence wrong. Cour-d’Alene is in Idaho, not Iowa.
Cor “Duh” Lane
Pon “Duh” Ray
“Nonini added that his wife, Cathyanne, does not share his support for the death penalty [for women who have abortions] even though they are both devout Catholics.”
Has he considered executing his wife for heresy?
I hope she executes HIM!! Hahaha.